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War Thunder Dogfight 35 - MiG-23 MF vs F-14A Tomcat  

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@emmanue224
@emmanue224 2 года назад
The pilot was probably panicked after the realization of the speed he was carrying set in
@michaelfranks2844
@michaelfranks2844 2 года назад
Honestly, if I realized this, my response would be to attempt to speed away, but then again, missiles make that dangerous and I am thinking of the prop plane meda cause I don't grind this game enough to enjoy these cool things.
@thepurpleantidote8709
@thepurpleantidote8709 2 года назад
@@michaelfranks2844 The F14A was fairly well known for having underpowered engines, compared to it's other versions at least.
@emmanue224
@emmanue224 2 года назад
@@thepurpleantidote8709 wonder if we'll get those other versions lol or they'll add a fulcrum or flanker with nothing to counter it 😂😂 they have to add jas grippen now that is a gen 4. F16 f15 too
@thepurpleantidote8709
@thepurpleantidote8709 2 года назад
@@emmanue224 We probably will get those different F14 versions, due to TopGuns boost of fame. As for the rest, who knows. Also, I can't get past tier 1 planes lol, then again, I need skill to do that. My main problem now is that steam hates every attempt I make at playing any game related to steam.
@masonreppeto882
@masonreppeto882 2 года назад
@@thepurpleantidote8709 update those drivers and get a PC that isn't a toaster. It's the only real fix :d.
@noljawn
@noljawn 2 года назад
I have never touched War Thunder in my life but I just love watching dog fights man so cool
@Pengied
@Pengied 2 года назад
They are cool, but NEVER play war thunder, don’t get sucked in!
@lookdo2451
@lookdo2451 2 года назад
@Robert why?
@Pengied
@Pengied 2 года назад
@@lookdo2451 Nooo! Don’t join the cult!
@lookdo2451
@lookdo2451 2 года назад
@@Pengied I’ve ALREADY JOINED 200+ hours
@thunderclips2653
@thunderclips2653 2 года назад
@@lookdo2451 1300 😔
2 года назад
You out rated him cause he had his wings on auto, if he had his wings fully out you would be dead
@etiennerbx5982
@etiennerbx5982 2 года назад
Exactly the comment I looked for to see if someone had noticed it 👌
@damionhiggins2625
@damionhiggins2625 2 года назад
I doubt that f-14 pilots are dumb unless it’s the sim ones
@Wonderduck1
@Wonderduck1 2 года назад
So it WASN'T that the F-14 "Early" has a pair of kids making jet engine noises, as opposed to actually have jet engines?
2 года назад
@@Wonderduck1 all the problems of the F-14A engines aren't modeled in game tbf... Like compressor stalls and such
@scootiepatootie7721
@scootiepatootie7721 2 года назад
@ that and the tf30s are ass at low speed anyway
@starbeatnik3171
@starbeatnik3171 2 года назад
Have the same problem with missiles, they always miss since last update. Anybody else noticed that? Maybe it's just me being a noob, but before the update I almost never missed with missiles
@crosshairs19
@crosshairs19 2 года назад
Before my missiles were accurate and almost always hit my target but after the update it’s like they aren’t tracking my target
@starbeatnik3171
@starbeatnik3171 2 года назад
@@crosshairs19 exact same thing for me. Hope they fix this
@justtypical8604
@justtypical8604 2 года назад
@@crosshairs19 probably to balance more advanced missiles like r73, ASRAAM's aim 9l(when they fix aim9l). As in make it possible to actually flare and evade them instead of dumping 30flares just for them to track anyway
@ryanmonroe80
@ryanmonroe80 2 года назад
I wouldn’t be surprised if they did a silent nerf to Russian missiles. R-24s and R-60s just haven’t been tracking at all where as sparrow E2s have been better than ever. As of US needed more of a buff
@Miles26545
@Miles26545 2 года назад
I mean i only have aim 9 b so they aren’t much worse
@Guy.WhoAsked
@Guy.WhoAsked Год назад
"I've been having trouble leading my missile shots" Bro you were 0.40 miles away and 250 miles per hour💀💀
@MiJi_29
@MiJi_29 2 года назад
"we're not going to watch the missile" Also him: **proceed to brutally humiliates Maverick and his friend**
@LegendsYT2804
@LegendsYT2804 Год назад
Its rooster
@EruseanPug
@EruseanPug 2 года назад
“I ain’t doin that shit” LMAO
@kashman2343
@kashman2343 2 года назад
I tried to play with the f14 and had to wait like twenty minutes just to get in Edit: bro 200 likes I’m fAmoUs
@wezzy8885
@wezzy8885 2 года назад
Hahaha i think u was that dude that said that in the game
@Blueesteel_
@Blueesteel_ 2 года назад
That will stop in a few days
@WarFoxThunder
@WarFoxThunder 2 года назад
@@Blueesteel_ hopefully. My 7.7 jets need replacing!
@FrostyLemon.
@FrostyLemon. Год назад
Is it possible to play 3rd and 4th gen jets in WT on Xbox, or is there not enough buttons for new features like flare
@jump186
@jump186 Год назад
​@@FrostyLemon. I play on Ps4 and its fine you just have to make a lot of combinations
@grainsnseeds
@grainsnseeds 2 года назад
Once I started watching these I've learnt so much about dogfights, I stopped playing air battles about 5 years ago and focused on ground, now that I'm back in and am learning it's been so much fun
@GuernB2
@GuernB2 2 года назад
A lot of the f14s are easy prey because people are learning and flying mostly stock planes without upgrade
@n8ivspat3n56
@n8ivspat3n56 2 года назад
Just yesterday I was playing and I had my phantom E and everyone else was in F-14s never in my life have I seen so many missiles fired at once
@PantherAusfD1944
@PantherAusfD1944 2 года назад
The barrage of missiles (2022)
@GDBROWN
@GDBROWN 2 года назад
The reason he got slow and you gained on his inside was because after your first pass with him, he went low and then tried to fight in the vertical. You have way more of a comparative advantage in the vertical than in the turn fight. He then furthered his mistake by trying to switch from a vertical fight to a radial fight.
@plzus
@plzus Год назад
That one missle heading straight towards him
@nolanolivier6791
@nolanolivier6791 Год назад
And that would be the only time in history that a Mig 23 stayed in the phone booth with an F14...
@J_K944
@J_K944 2 года назад
Love your videos, entertaining and educational as always.
@chakalote_tco4820
@chakalote_tco4820 2 года назад
Libyan pilots should learn from you
@jaketheman9183
@jaketheman9183 Год назад
Playing warthunder rn and that lockon sound scared the shit out of me i forgot youtube was playing
@jefferyholbert6806
@jefferyholbert6806 2 года назад
Man I honestly love your videos and I hope ya keep making them. I try to use your little tips and tricks and they are definitely helping
@forja40k
@forja40k Год назад
F-14 engine sound is brutal 💀
@rickylafleur9601
@rickylafleur9601 2 года назад
I like tier 4-6 in this game because of how quickly a dogfight can end. The 20mm and 30mm guns have such a high fire rate that all that matters in a dogfight is getting a good angle even for a second.
@mr.hispano7263
@mr.hispano7263 Год назад
The missiles got difficulties of locking in the clouds
@entarr2604
@entarr2604 2 года назад
I have a friend, Will Ward, that flies a MiG-17. He told me how once he was asked by the US Air Force to fly out to California and "dogfight" some F14s in his MiG-17. When he got out there, they told him to fly in a straight path so the new pilots could fly up and radar lock him to "shoot him down". He decided that wasn't real world training and actually dog fought them. He managed to radar lock all but one (I forget how many he said were up there, I want to say 6). The Air Force told him never to come back.
@TR-cr2xj
@TR-cr2xj Год назад
That missile 3km out: allow me to introduce myself
@saparbajev
@saparbajev 2 года назад
That F14 had to be stock.
@sadstar3225
@sadstar3225 2 года назад
A stock f14 could probably beat an mld, he was just playing his plane badly
@bob-hg5qj
@bob-hg5qj 2 года назад
@@sadstar3225 lmao over my dead body
@sadstar3225
@sadstar3225 2 года назад
@@bob-hg5qj war thunder username?
@69Television
@69Television 6 месяцев назад
​@@sadstar3225and he never replied did he
@Uknwn_error
@Uknwn_error 2 года назад
A lot of wing rip at speeds that last patch wouldn’t happen
@cristobalalvarez5491
@cristobalalvarez5491 2 года назад
Yeah they nerfed the f14 speed
@ronstermaglee7355
@ronstermaglee7355 Год назад
How many countries you have TopTiered? ThunderKills: yes👍
@KaijuLanes
@KaijuLanes 6 месяцев назад
That f14 probably just tryna grind
@felixmende4650
@felixmende4650 Год назад
Bros first time flying 💀
@WaKefulcrane
@WaKefulcrane Год назад
Now imagine all this, but in Sim Battles. I solely play sim and I tell you. The rush you get when you do everything right to get that kill, is so much more rewarding then getting 20 kills in arcade battles.
@grimm254
@grimm254 2 года назад
Ya I believe the big bore is a visual bug right now. I’m pretty sure it’s still the same size as before the update, they just need to actually make the new bore work
@desporata
@desporata 2 года назад
this guy is the old guard. respect
@idhqbqjqsixjbsnqkwiwhs
@idhqbqjqsixjbsnqkwiwhs Год назад
Yoo are the best wt yt out here showing us the dos and don'ts etc
@Edgeverse
@Edgeverse 2 года назад
Yeah at the end of the day is mostly about the pilot than the plane.
@melvindahlburger9587
@melvindahlburger9587 2 года назад
In my opinion, I think the F14 is a good plane that’s being mostly used by the wrong person. If you have played the game for a really long time it shouldn’t really matter what plane you are using to take down one. If an enemy F14 makes mistakes in a dogfight, it opens up opportunities.
@a.t.a.ctankkill3r876
@a.t.a.ctankkill3r876 2 года назад
I allways lose my silver lions Pls help me
@arpitk54
@arpitk54 2 года назад
Turn off auto repair. Helps save more SL and forces you to play diverse range of vehicles
@a.t.a.ctankkill3r876
@a.t.a.ctankkill3r876 2 года назад
@@arpitk54 i just bought a mig-21..even when i make 1 kill i lose some silver lions...you know i just have this one jet fighter
@arpitk54
@arpitk54 2 года назад
@@a.t.a.ctankkill3r876 did you straight away buy it before grinding other planes in lower br? Then you will find things difficult. If not, then go back to other jets snd planes like mig-15 and yak-3
@a.t.a.ctankkill3r876
@a.t.a.ctankkill3r876 2 года назад
@@arpitk54 yes the dudes in realistic flymode told me to buy a jet :(
@arpitk54
@arpitk54 2 года назад
@@a.t.a.ctankkill3r876 thats not thr best way to go about it tbh. I suggest starting thr grind from the bottom. Its painful and difficult but your skills get built up over time. Plus you dont lose all the SL
@nicholasjensen8016
@nicholasjensen8016 2 года назад
The tomcat pilot was not using manual wing sweep so they were not swept back all the way for best low speed performance.
@Mrgamer7281
@Mrgamer7281 2 года назад
Whoa whoa whoa this is war thunder, we say turn fight round these parts. Lets keep rate fight in the text book.
@kastroalphaofc
@kastroalphaofc Год назад
Quoting a very wise man: ya can't flare guns
@hoverbike
@hoverbike Год назад
Holding overload G for a full minute due to have completely maxed out crew probably helps. Fortunately, that shit is missing in DCS.
@normal-potato05
@normal-potato05 2 года назад
Your Mig-23 had 100% wing sweep The tomcat probably had it on auto cos it looked like it was at 50% (Or the pilot was just unfamiliar with the controls)
@fluffymuffin9089
@fluffymuffin9089 2 года назад
Maybe stock too
@jacobhalczak
@jacobhalczak Год назад
I’ve been having the same exact problems with air to air missiles during this update.
@nautium
@nautium 2 года назад
If you cut the throttle you could've been able to get him much earlier to be fair and it also reduces the chance of countermeasures being able to distract missiles due to you not being direct behind but rather more on top but either way you got him so GGs
@sunsiboi3095
@sunsiboi3095 2 года назад
That was probably his first flight with it
@tastethesoup
@tastethesoup 2 года назад
No glitch with the missiles…you’re point blank in the clouds
@vermas4654
@vermas4654 2 года назад
F14: wins against Su57s, looses to an old DDR Mig 23
@ISO-420
@ISO-420 2 года назад
Man... What are you doing with your missles.. you could've killed that dude 3 different times like Jesus. 😂
@nedimdzudzevic6880
@nedimdzudzevic6880 2 года назад
The missile hitting u at the very end
@tisbutamaxwell
@tisbutamaxwell Год назад
me waiting for him to do a cobra:
@redeye7506
@redeye7506 2 года назад
Watching someone in war thunder at 350+ kts with flaps down after burner on wobbling all over the sky is itchinly frustrating
@jakmc77
@jakmc77 2 года назад
AA missiles are very easy to dodge when your up close to the target because your opponent can just turn and the missile will fly straight over them because those type of missiles can’t turn as aggressively. Try using them against targets that are further away.
@ArmorCast
@ArmorCast 2 года назад
Hypothesis: max fuel and automatic wing sweep
@F139
@F139 2 года назад
Here goes the Maverick
@mrskywars1237
@mrskywars1237 2 года назад
You were able to outrate him because he was going way too fast for his optimal turn rate to set in, he wanted to be doing around 310-340 knots but he was doing almost 400 so he couldn’t turn and use his outswept wings to his full advantage
@pacegoca5764
@pacegoca5764 2 года назад
Its not a missile problem, thats not how missile works
@alex190alex
@alex190alex 2 года назад
There are f14 players who think they cam win in a turn fight against a Ja37C. That thing can out turn them. Doesn't mean I've won all turns, I've only lost the ones where I was already low on energy, but I couldn't get away so I was just fucked, turning was the only option. Biggest downside of delta wings, they bleed speed faster than a f14's afterburner chugs fuel
@R0gueM
@R0gueM 2 года назад
Damn. Tore that dude up, big time.
@StealthySpace7
@StealthySpace7 2 года назад
Bruh that other pilot should be ashamed
@bobmartin9918
@bobmartin9918 4 месяца назад
All variants of the R60 and R13 can be radar slaved. Helps a tonne with locking and leading.
@warthunderclipper
@warthunderclipper Год назад
He was dead at the moment he started fighting you (you’ve never lost)
@ShiftoHvH
@ShiftoHvH 2 года назад
the missiles pop off the rail before burning its main motor, it sucks for everyone since missile takes a second longer to boost
@barnykirashi
@barnykirashi 2 года назад
I said it once, I say it again. The MiG-23 is the cooler variable wing sweep fighter.
@normal-potato05
@normal-potato05 2 года назад
Agreed
@2ez176
@2ez176 2 года назад
i don’t think his wings were fully swept out like yours but infact slightly tucked
@nikolaiboogaloo4592
@nikolaiboogaloo4592 2 года назад
The f14 does way better in nose to nose engagements rather then a 1 or 2 circle dogfight
@raydog0483
@raydog0483 2 года назад
For me if I have a range where my lock will be maintained I always pull my plane ahead of the lock so the missile has some leeway to work with
@Yeeoldman63
@Yeeoldman63 Год назад
The Mig-23 is a Soviet air superiority fighter and the F-14 is an American Naval Air superiority fighter but the difference is that the Mig came out in the early 60s and the F-14 came out in the mid 70s and the Americans copied the retractable wing design.
@s21102
@s21102 2 года назад
Its not the plane. Its the pilot
@kiubekpl5863
@kiubekpl5863 2 года назад
i have a glitch when small circle disapears and entire big circle turn red, idk if i can fire and track with that glitch
@thiccburgers1259
@thiccburgers1259 2 года назад
Same, tested it out, it actually seems it's targeting normally so feel free to go ahead and fire, but it's still pretty obnoxious as a glitch
@Namelesslyroaming
@Namelesslyroaming 2 года назад
@@thiccburgers1259 game name?
@thiccburgers1259
@thiccburgers1259 2 года назад
War Thunder
@Namelesslyroaming
@Namelesslyroaming 2 года назад
@@thiccburgers1259 mobile game or PC
@thiccburgers1259
@thiccburgers1259 2 года назад
PC and consoles
@gavinblackburn9239
@gavinblackburn9239 2 года назад
I haven’t had any problems leading r60s, but I usually use irst whenever possible
@eudog3156
@eudog3156 2 года назад
I think maybe you have to guide the missiles on their target as fire and forget wasnt invented
@acehazmat06
@acehazmat06 8 месяцев назад
Would have helped if the f-14 had his wings fully extended
@sxgbln5868
@sxgbln5868 Год назад
he came in fast
@Gypples
@Gypples 2 года назад
I wish I could get a dogfight like this. Usually a missile gets to me before I get a shot out. Lol
@josiahR125
@josiahR125 2 года назад
I see you caught that missile right at the end.
@ThunderKills
@ThunderKills 2 года назад
Yes, but as I said in the video, we're ignoring that :)
@Namelesslyroaming
@Namelesslyroaming 2 года назад
@@ThunderKills game name
@normal-potato05
@normal-potato05 2 года назад
@@Namelesslyroaming what you’re seeing is 6+ months of grind The game is called WarThunder
@Namelesslyroaming
@Namelesslyroaming 2 года назад
@@normal-potato05 oh okay thanks for telling
@wackydinky5588
@wackydinky5588 2 года назад
the AUTO mode for wing sweep appears to be not functioning properly, as it won't allow the wings to reach 0% sweep outside of takeoff/landing, or anywhere near 0% for that matter the thing simply turns better at 0%, no questions asked
@ДимаСидоров-м2р
Красавчик, я бы уже повернул на новый заход
@northunited280
@northunited280 2 года назад
It’s not about the plane, it’s about the pilot. You dogfighted with a noob
@fishing7572
@fishing7572 2 года назад
The plane is only as good as the pilot, which is sometimes reason you see some f14 players that are terrible (low level players with a premium plane to grind) I've learned the best way is after take off, fully swing the wings back, when engaging in close combat like in this video, the speed being around 400 I would swing the wings fully out for turn rate without afterburner, it turns hard and fast, if you need speed swing the wings about 50% and afterburners, this is just my personal experience so far, it's worked about 80% of the time
@mightymouse4661
@mightymouse4661 2 года назад
You know there’s a thing called being too close for middles right? Maverick says too close for middles switching to guns for a reason
@imc645
@imc645 2 года назад
This guy is so original
@adamlury6443
@adamlury6443 2 года назад
Hey does the f14 a compressor stall like irl that'll be a cool detail
@VERTIGO1327
@VERTIGO1327 Год назад
That f-14 probobly had no mods on it tbh
@ChutneyGames
@ChutneyGames 2 года назад
He lost because he went vertical after you both dipped nose down making him lose energy first giving you slightly more nose authority to pull the guns on, if the tomcat kept it's nose down and rolled over he could've transitioned into a low speed rolling scissors or something
@the_fish_king0151
@the_fish_king0151 2 года назад
This is content my boi hell yes
@therussianbias3703
@therussianbias3703 2 года назад
A lot of people losing fights in f14's are prob ppl who think automatic wing sweep control is good enough
@PhantomFight
@PhantomFight Год назад
In this case I think you’re way too close to the maneuvering F-14 for missiles. This is guns solution scenario.
@Breadboi-xp4tn
@Breadboi-xp4tn 2 года назад
The f14A wont outrate you simply because its engines were weak for the airframe thats why the f14b was made to replace it
@MoskusMoskiferus1611
@MoskusMoskiferus1611 Год назад
Top Gun should be like this instead of with Su-57 or F-5
@moyai7594
@moyai7594 2 года назад
That took way longer than it should have…
@mr.pissedoff1903
@mr.pissedoff1903 2 года назад
I have been playing on console recently, and god damn do I feel bad for them. Mostly because aiming is just chance, but I’ve never got so many maneuvering kills.. People are greedy as fuck on WT, they’ll stay zoomed in whole time while chasing. You just start hugging a mountain and they can’t correct their flight path by the time they realize their gonna hit the mountain, that or they don’t realize how much their speed has dropped, and they stall out. Gives me the biggest testosterone boost to my balls.
@hemendraravi4787
@hemendraravi4787 2 года назад
U probably outrated him cus he was high on fuel (30min) and carried 4 aim54s etc , aim54 a piece weighs around 400kg , so yea carrying 6=2400 kgs (6000 lbs)
@cristobalalvarez5491
@cristobalalvarez5491 2 года назад
It could still outrate anyone
@small_lude99
@small_lude99 2 года назад
That would be one of his lowest fuel amounts as I would carry full tank cause you can burn through 30 mins in just 6mins cause f14 engines are very very thirsty
@adamporter3402
@adamporter3402 2 года назад
F-14 didn’t have his wings fully out, he would have won if he did tbh
@DeMarcUs0
@DeMarcUs0 2 года назад
Why do u launch missiles inside clouds they don't work in clouds...
@arsky2172
@arsky2172 2 года назад
You should practice on when you should throw your missiles even though they are 30g’s
@Kilimanjarooo
@Kilimanjarooo Год назад
missiles miss at super close ranges (with manoeuvring) dingus, ive managed to dodge a few like this way back when i first got jets.
@jw1343
@jw1343 2 года назад
Damn got his ass in a gunfight too
@bt_the_yank6234
@bt_the_yank6234 2 года назад
People just don't use manual wing sweep and it buggs me seeing them use the Tomcat like a nub
@ofekk213
@ofekk213 2 года назад
dont shoot those R-60Ms so close, try to have a distance of at least 0.7km, they turn sharo but they are no SRAAMs. if you have trouble with locking up aircraft in a dogfight i highly suggest using IRST and that sweet ACM boresight with the giant vertical scanner.
@kommandantkillcode
@kommandantkillcode 2 года назад
R-60Ms can pull in at 0.3km. The problem is that he couldn’t pull enough lead for the missile to be able to start turning, because missiles have a small period of time where they cannot maneuver, and usually they ignore flares during that period too.
@ofekk213
@ofekk213 2 года назад
@@kommandantkillcode listen, the R-60 is not an AIM9. you dont lead it, you let it do the turning for you. only times you lead it is wheh you intercept someone at a very high AoA. its not only 30G of pull, the R-60 also had a very high trackrate, allowing it to turn more quickly and response faster to enemy manuvers.
@ofekk213
@ofekk213 2 года назад
@@kommandantkillcode i knew that, i have over 2750 hours in the game. but unlike the aim9, the R-60 pulls so hard and quick that 80% of the time leading makes no difference. the idea of the R-60 is to shoot it in snapshots, so you get an angle that an enemy you chase will not think you followed them. for example, im approaching the furball from the side and notice an F-5E flying perpendicularly with his engines slightly showing. with an aim9 i would get behind him and only than lock and launch, but with the R-60 i get a lock, launch, and scoot off.
@tescofred6445
@tescofred6445 2 года назад
We need a graphics settings because your game already looks so nice
@tarabeavon8163
@tarabeavon8163 2 года назад
he was pulling to much aoa to effectively rate you, trying to bring his nose round as quickly as possible leading him to lose energy forcing him to dump his nose as he did letting you get the shot
@allenliu8820
@allenliu8820 2 года назад
the f14 wings were also on 50% meaning that it cant turn as well
@Randomvideos-zi7pe
@Randomvideos-zi7pe 2 года назад
The two Libyan pilots who got shot down by f-14 watching this be like: wtf why didnt I think of this earlier🤣 But realistically speaking, that f-14 is the very first iteration that came up which is unreliable as fuck. So it kinda reflects it well, something like if you play the first phantom in game to the new one, it gets better. Probably in the future we'll get the better upgraded variants.
@aldrinharlim
@aldrinharlim 2 года назад
But those Libyan pilots are downed by F-14A like this, well granted they use AIM-9Ls but still, its the same plane.
@Randomvideos-zi7pe
@Randomvideos-zi7pe 2 года назад
@@aldrinharlim Yes, those were f-14a's, but they were upgraded to the newer spec which everyone sees at museums today.
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