War Thunder - FIRST "LEAKS" for the NEXT update to STARTED appear! Are they REAL? 

Updates always come at a certain time, second week of september in that case. You can check it out on the wiki.

A few weeks ago i saw guy in ARB match that said that next air event vehicle will be F-14

Note. He said a "few weeks go". We just found out it was an F14 like one week ago if that. ​@sebastiank.nielsen4802

@@badbrowniez @ruminstas apologies, it seems i missed that part!

Maybe that guy is like a time traveler or something

Centauro II? *Neuron activation*

Exactly what happened with me lol

Type shit

like FINALLY

Su-24 is a bit late but damn i take it any time, please put it below the MiG-27 line its a dead end give it some love again.

It's probably the 1998 version the programme was taking time Dassault deliever a pre production version with a M2K radar Magic 2 and Mica EM so it's actually just a M2K with à way better aoa

⁠@@Stannley976that would be the Rafale A, but the list specified the M. But even then it doesn’t just have a better AoA, but a much better TWR and I’m not too sure but probably also gets more missile capable hard points.

They can’t add aircraft to the game without getting the rights from the company that makes the jets. So their is a chance their will never be a euro fighter.

I mean there could be a second list with euro fighter but if not then I agree

@@Stannley976okay? Tranche 1 came with a mechanical radar, ASRAAM block 1, AMRAAM

Agreed the treatment of Germany top tier is BS. Sure I will love to grind the American F-18 but Germany is lacking in top tier vehicles especially for ground vehicles.

​​@@steakinbacon8593if the leak list is real just grind the British tree it has a better premium, it has the Gripen which is just a better F-16C, a more interesting tree, and future Eurofighter typhoons

they could for example give the Alphajet a second version with Mavericks or Tornado with clusterbombs.... so many things they could add but dont want too..

@@nukaquantum7 cluster bombs makes no sense, but the tornado could get brimstones

Germany air might suffer but Germany ground never suffers and the numbers show😂😅

Yup but apparently germany has "bias" like come on why can't we get smth better than an f4fice that has no hmd come on gaijin

Mig 29 can you stop crying now?

@@wArTOonder MiG-29s are utter dogshit after their flight models were nerfed way back, the only thing that kept them somewhat competitive were R-27ERs but with the new meta and the R-77s being absolute trash even the Soviet ones are struggling, let alone the Germans.

​@@wArTOonder You've got to be joking right

They could add swiss f18 🤷‍♂️

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Rafale supremacy. Rafale my beloved.

Rafale>F22

@@WHERESTHELAMBSAUCE80Lol

@@christopherchartier3017 real no rage 2008 2 f22 vs RAFALE 3.0 for RAFALE 😱

Probably waiting for there to be enough other offerings at high tier, once they drop it the F-18 is going to be the new top gun USA favorite. Maybe trying to avoid a situation like with the F-5 where every match was 70% that one plane.

Or. Pr. Hear me out. LISCENCING is an issue

Also the thing that Gaijin POSSIBLY cares about ground, when F18 arrives their is little point to play for more than 5 minutes each grb match, sure most jets can have 4-5 homing/tv guided bombs/missiles but the F18 is something else for ground😂

@@mangosuppe8706the super hornet is but the regular hornet could only hold 4 mavericks

@@mangosuppe8706 Your thinking of the wrong hornet, the ground ordinance for the f18 is much smaller than the superhornet, sort of how the f15e would be unstoppable in ground rb but the f15c sucks

as always well get the first eurofighter after the yanks have their f22

@@justzzzx623 an eurofighter with fox 1s or it's too powerful🤣

Well the thing is that Germany has some very decent missiles so they should be fine

@@WHERESTHELAMBSAUCE80 are you joking? The only top tier palne is the f4f ice which sucks as hell

@@Casual7646he’s talking about rl and not wt (rn). He probably means the meteor, iris-t etc.

Tell him to leak the documents lol

Was he navy or marine core?

​@@McXerYT Marine Corps*

same with su24

We shoulda got the F/A-18 back when the F-16A and MiG-29 came

As far as actually new vehicle models are concerned the last update was one of the smallest in history. As far as new aircraft models are concerned there was only one new one, tanks had only a few

Yes about 90% of things were accurate last leak list so we will see in the next few weeks.

Was not large

grippen more showed us we have no real documentation of these newer jets

​@@marshall-yo5ho amen lol

The Navy had Crusaders for fighters

@@nicolaspeigne1429They were retires already few years before Rafale M F1 introdution

@@anselmetheo3266 2 years yeah

Rafale will be a really cool addition. Even though Germany takes a L by missing the EF.

I agree with you, but no EF2000 (very early block) for Germany is unfair

@@zooloomods it's warthunder, would it really surprise you ? i don't know much about what early EF2000 had so i don't have an opinion

​@@zooloomodsGaijin always has been unfair towards Germany so that's no surprise if they do it again.

Its useless when we have the su27 sm, if they adding the rafale atleast could have added the su30/35

Exactly, no interest in su33, just add it later like the yak 141, but a su30 could be fun

Su24 is toooo late, It had to have arrived with 111

​@@AZ-dj1ni Yes if it was the F-111F that came at same time.

@@AZ-dj1niI still want it 😭

Yeah the Norwegian vehicles will end up as premiums so they wont be for awhile, not until gaijin can justify a F-16 premium.

That's right, Gripen C is waaay to far of the Gripen E for example. Early variants of those 4.5 gen jets may work ingame

CAN F/A-18C maybe for germany

@@theDarkside798 Germany wouldn't get a Canadian F/A-18. They only got the Canadian Leopards because they're Leopards, Canada's CF-18 would go to Britain if added.

@@diobrando2575 wait and see. Since Dutch went to France I would believe anything.

They may get the Swiss f/a18c though

@@diobrando2575 The Canadian F18 is literally on your screen as going to the UK as the CF-188

Same here so we can recreate top gun maverick

I’m really excited for the f18 and j15

what difference would a better radar do when MICA can't reach farther than 30 km on a good day ?

@@nicolaspeigne1429 because it would be way more harder to jam with chaff and you would almost instantly detect everything in front of you with a way better accuracy and reliability. And they may fix the MICA when the Rafale will come, at least I hope they will

@@exonys3838 i doubt MICA will change before r77-1 and aim120 C5 come into the game, for balance reason in Gaijin's mind, i least i hope it is, otherwise it would mean they actually believe MICA EM has only 50km of range

@@nicolaspeigne1429 yeah, but the thing is that they just have to fix how thrust vectoring work, the flight model in himself is correct (except for the loft since he should loft like any other fox 3) and according to it he has more Delta V and less drag than the AIM 120A, meaning it should have better range

@@nicolaspeigne1429 it's weird that he has more drag since he is the smallest ARH, IRL he is the least dragiest ARH missile among the missiles in game. I have enought of gaijin nerfing everything france receive

I am on the side of not true, just based solely on the fact that canada never gets anything. With our luck, everything BUT the CF-18 will be true

F-2 has an AESA radar, we won't see it until other nations get AESA radars.

I'm no plane expert but from what i heard the F-2 would be WAY, WAY, WAY too good. Mainly because of the radar system (we dont even have that kind of very strong radar in the game and it would apparently be busted)

​@@stefanknauer7180just the radar of a plane won't make it too strong. Look at the viggens, especially the ground attacker ones at lower BRs. They have the best radars at their BR by far but theyre not op at all, even in sim where radars are more important

@@stefanknauer7180 i think aesa radars will all be added at one point so its fine, but its gonna need a lot more than a radar to do good, I heard its a slightly heavier f16 tho

@@marshall-yo5ho im pretty sure they’re already in a game on a chinese AA, not on planes tho as far as i know

True, unless ussr gets a su30 as adding a su33 would just create a f4f ice situation

@@mangosuppe8706 most the air vehicles are already on par with each other, f18 would just have slightly better manoverability than the other us vehicles, but radar and everything else wouldn't be much better, I've also heard the rafale is more of a early variant that isn't very advanced past a mirage

No, they will get fox-3s without a plane, kappa :D

Yes and pzh-2000 😊

The list is for sure fake but tbh as much as they bully Germany at top tier I don’t see them not giving us a top tier plane this patch of some sort, but I foresee that being a few options, it will probably be either a Swiss f18, a polish f16, or for the last fighter that I really don’t see happening, an test eurofighter variant. I will say there’s no guarantee they give a fighter they may give a random tornado variant with aim9L i and brimstones or some shit. But I feel semi confident they’re gonna give some sort of top tier plane

Fr if they add the obj 640 they could also add a t-84 variant

Fr I wanna play the t-84 with soviet tanks not Japanese

A Thai T-84 is probably more likely to get into War Thunder than a Ukrainian one. I don't think Gaijin wants to touch anything related to the current war with a 10-foot pole.

@@bagelmaster2498 How about an Argentine F-16 MLU for Germany?

But don't forget, Canada only has the A variant. without FOX 3 😉

which Canadian vehicles wouldn't go to the US? the adats has 2 different variants for united states and britian

​@@marshall-yo5hoRam II (m4a5) is a Canadian vehicle that was predominantly used by the UK and Canada for training purposes.

@@Maxxx800ify The CF-18's "Incremental Modernization Project" upgrade replaced the APG-65 radar with the F/A-18C's APG-73, making it compatible with AIM-120A. And then the "Hornet Extension Project" added AIM-120D and AIM-9X.

Sky ranger with the sams added onto it would be a really silly vehicle

The same could be said when they added the aim-120 and the Dogshit R-77 or when the Gripen was added and dog walked everything else in the game, or when the R-27ERs dominated for over a year. Gaijin always likes to add an op plane in a patch then 2 patches later add actual competition for it.

Rafale M standard F1 is not that different from the mirage 2000-5f we have in game, it would have a better radar that wouldn't matter because MICA has trash range, but no HMD

@@nicolaspeigne1429 good to know

the thing is you guys were like that for a long damn time, too long even

@@ryszardmaklakiewicz8075 No? We never were and arent a strong nation, eaven Italy has a better toptier Jet line then us now, also remember, we have really bad toptier cas, so I hope they add the 6 GBU's and 16 Brimstones to the Eurofighter loadout, aspecally the german one, because germany was always the main factor of modernizing the Eurofighter, other countries like britain just profitet from the german improvements and bought them. But I should expect too much since Gaijin really doesnt like germany (I dont think I have to name the reason here), one proof for that is that they always give us the Stuff other Nations get, one update after, or that they waited 4 years to add new Leopards, and that too only because the pressure was geting too much.

You already got that, cl-13 was the best plane in the game :D

They added semi modern carriers ages ago... then them removed carriers from every single map. Literally pointless

What carrier fighters would it be? Su33 cant be one of them

@@mangosuppe8706 SU-33, J-15, Rafale M, FA-18. I imagine you could add an Indian MiG-29K for the UK as well

@@davidbalogun7569 It cant be Su33, would be a filler su27s, it cant carry fox 3s unlike the chinese counterpart

@@mangosuppe8706 Give Russia a MiG-29K as well

No point in adding F/A-18A, it has no place, would be inferior to F-16C.

and italy spanish F/A-18

@@Maverick966 it has good aoa like a Su-27

​@@Maverick966 not every new plane has to be top tier tho

@@Maverick966 That's what BRs are for. The F/A-18A would be more equivalent to the F-16A MLU, not the F-16C.

Indeed, the J-15 is a fully Chinese developed carrier borne fighter based on an early Su-33 (technically the name should be T-10 something). China bought the prototype from Ukraine after disagreements with Russia (they didn’t like the Su-33) and they simply made a better version of it. And yes the Su-33 cannot use Fox3 missiles whilst the J-15 can.

Lmao yet another nation having the leopard 2 being their best top tier tank

Well, then its probally worth playing french tree at least :D

@@bagelmaster2498 the Leclerc would be better if he was realistic

@@TheDarthSiren french vehicules are really good, you just suffer before 4.3 and at 8.7, otherwise it's good and for aviation it's good to really good everywhere

Thing would be insane.

I feel you man

Fr I want that pal e so bad. It looks so cool

I wouldn’t be surprised if they went right to the f18c and then end of year went with the super hornet in the same patch the eurofighter and Rafale are added

We already have the F-16C Block 50 and the F-15C MSIP II. It wouldn't be the least bit surprising if Gaijin skips to the F/A-18C. Honestly, the proper time for the F/A-18A to be added was about half a year ago.

@@RedXlV it would’ve made the most sense to have added the f18a before the f15a came out but yea now I suspect they’ll skip any f18 using sparrows and go right to amraams

I think it's the Rafale M because it's the most early production variant with the standard F1, which is basically the same as the mirage 2000-5f but on a Rafale airfarme

Well you are forgetting tech tree vehicles exist, to progress faster that’s one way but usually premiums can be either used as tier fillers or usable jet

@@WHERESTHELAMBSAUCE80 yeah especially with those new rank 8 premium

Thx

You too fellow christian :)

🙂👍

Good, tell him I don't care

Amen, may the lord bless your soul 🙏🏻

If the rafale gets added so should the Eurofighter tranche 1

@@contemptordreadnought yeah that's true even if personally, i think this plane is averrated. but it's my think now i don't know the real facts

it wouldn't do anything the Mirage 2000 isn't doing currently so OP... i don't know

@@user-ou3cp5ns4o people hear rafale or eurofighter (Tranche 1)and jump to "Too modern" without realising how new gripen C and f15c is. The weapons for both of them are already in the game

Its hard for gaijin as irl, germany barely produced any planes between 1950-1990ish when the eurofighter got upgrades (please correct me if i am wrong)

@@mangosuppe8706 this is why putting in a scwhiss f18 makes sense, considering germany already has schwiss under tree (except its only 1 jet so far i believe) This is the loophole.