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War Thunder Guide 6.0 - Defeating Infrared Guided Missiles (IRCCM Included) 

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HUGE thanks (very big) to: / @nuka . and EXOTIC for the assist
0:00 Intro
0:42 Flare mechanics
1:26 Seekerhead mechanics
2:17 Bandwith
2:42 Aim-9G (common profile)
3:43 AIM-9L
4:16 R-73 / Magic 2 (gatewith IRCCM)
4:34 AAM-3 / AIM-9M (Tracking Suspension)
5:25 Gatewith IRCCM in practice
6:46 Tracking suspension IRCCM in practice
8:26 Flaring R-73 And Magic 2 From the rear
9:58 Flaring R-73 and Magic 2 From the side
10:25 Flaring R-73 and Magic 2 From the front
10:45 Flaring AIM-9M and AAM-3 From the rear (flower pattern)
11:35 Flaring AIM-9M and AAM-3 From the rear (curtain pattern)
13:37 Flaring AIM-9M and AAM-3 From the front
14:03 Flaring AIM-9M From the Side (method 1, sus at altitude and aam-3s)
14:53 Flaring AIM-9M and AAM-3 From the side (reliable pick)
15:34 Flaring AIM-9M and AAM-3 From the side at low speed (hard)
Outro: A.N.O. - Vanish
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@nuka.
@nuka. Месяц назад
u r my sunshine
@mrkoro29
@mrkoro29 Месяц назад
How the fuck did you posted a comment 33mins ago when the video dropped 17mins ago ??? Bug i guess
@thesaracen7267
@thesaracen7267 Месяц назад
My only sunshine
@NheNiceGuy
@NheNiceGuy Месяц назад
you make me happy
@grahh7234
@grahh7234 Месяц назад
When skies are gray
@Warthunderspecialist1
@Warthunderspecialist1 Месяц назад
You never know when
@MZIH
@MZIH Месяц назад
Seek’s honest reaction:
@TurnerBoat
@TurnerBoat Месяц назад
His reaction when his video is obsolete within 5 hours? Must be quite painful indeed. I pity the attempt that he tried to assemble that video in a day just because he knew Defyn was creating this so he could profit of it. This is a 2 minute microwave meal that's still half frozen vs the meal that was grown on own land and cooked over 3 days. I never comment but in general...Man even I am annoyed
@absboodoo
@absboodoo Месяц назад
I just finish watching Seek's video and it lead me straight to here. lol
@salltyboi
@salltyboi Месяц назад
Seek and Defyn beef incoming
@notfunny3397
@notfunny3397 Месяц назад
​@@TurnerBoat I'm pretty sure these videos take quite a while to make, unlikely that they could have copied each other I think. Then again defyn did kinda reveal the video a while ago.
@cryonic.
@cryonic. Месяц назад
@@TurnerBoat​​⁠u actually made an alt account to comment that? your account is a few minutes older than your comment lol
@arubberduck9077
@arubberduck9077 Месяц назад
me watching this video, knowing damn well im still gonna make the same mistakes after understanding the concepts
@DEFYN
@DEFYN Месяц назад
If it helps you 30% of the time that's still an improvement :)
@Xiphactinus
@Xiphactinus Месяц назад
@@DEFYNthis video has a 50% chance of getting you to understand all of the concepts, but don't worry, the last 20 people to watch it all understood!
@jaek_898
@jaek_898 Месяц назад
Can't wait to deal with Python 4 which uses both types of IRCCM at the same time
@JustMinna
@JustMinna Месяц назад
its balanced trust me bro (wont it be easier to flare since its seeker shuts off but its FOV is so small so if you maneuver away it wont relock you as easily?)
@GeneralLee2000
@GeneralLee2000 Месяц назад
I'm really worried we get it next update...
@MD-wn4ui
@MD-wn4ui Месяц назад
I wonder what will be worse in war thunder to deal with. The combo of suspension and gate width or however they implement the imaging IR seeker of the 9X and python 5.
@vavord5181
@vavord5181 Месяц назад
R-27T/ET both use the gate width IRCCM and that AIM-9M-type of thing.
@zayf1760
@zayf1760 Месяц назад
Funny thing is Magic 2 should get the same irccm
@vishakhanshivaneshan8740
@vishakhanshivaneshan8740 Месяц назад
instructions unclear: i just watched the top gun movie and did the kvochur maneuver
@spacy256
@spacy256 20 дней назад
During the first day of the dev server I had an Su-27SM try to pull a kvochur maneuver thinking he was hot shit. He quickly learned that American planes have 20mms
@GeneralLee2000
@GeneralLee2000 Месяц назад
The cook is real holy 🙏
@PenguinNoodleSoup
@PenguinNoodleSoup Месяц назад
It’s general Lee
@Loudward__
@Loudward__ Месяц назад
In depth video? we in balls deep with this one.
@JaesWasTaken
@JaesWasTaken Месяц назад
Thanks for taking the time to make this video! I was doing some of these things instinctively, but didn't fully grasp why I should be doing them outside of "Hey, this just kinda works." The "Picassos" demonstrating how Countermeasures work in tandem with your engine profile was invaluable!
@EdgeR2
@EdgeR2 Месяц назад
me pulling up neg g while flaring like a madman: the R27ER in question:
@oofdotcom
@oofdotcom Месяц назад
you should do the same but for chaff/radar when the fox3s come
@DEFYN
@DEFYN Месяц назад
I will
@altacc0604
@altacc0604 Месяц назад
Fox 3s are generally not fooled by chaffs, and as more advanced one comes people needs to know how to actually defend (chaffing notching and flying low (at closer distances) stops working if more advanced ones comes out)
@M1A2C.
@M1A2C. Месяц назад
Assuming multipathing them still works that's what i and most other people will do lol, i don't see the ARB meta being too affected by Fox-3s tbh. Though they're not in game yet so we'll find out just how good they are in a month or so.
@clankplusm
@clankplusm 28 дней назад
@@M1A2C. having played some on the dev, multipathing does indeed work, however they are "less sensitive" to it- You need to nail a much narrower band of altitude for a successful multipath. Notch+ chaffing them is much easier than plane radars / SARH however. And of course, mountains are a good help
@Ryan-go6id
@Ryan-go6id 2 дня назад
@@DEFYN👀
@ItzCPU_
@ItzCPU_ Месяц назад
Missile: It’s jover for me now
@AMANB613
@AMANB613 Месяц назад
Papyrus font is crazy 😂
@malithaw
@malithaw Месяц назад
𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂
@Boris_The_Turtle
@Boris_The_Turtle Месяц назад
“IRCCM doesn’t want you to know this one simple trick”
@pyxlated_void4719
@pyxlated_void4719 Месяц назад
Your crazy for that one
@breadpwiece
@breadpwiece Месяц назад
Defyn single handedly raising the skill level and difficulty of top tier one guide at a time
@Hagop64
@Hagop64 Месяц назад
Now that I've watched this, can you delete it so my enemies don't see it too?
@mab2187
@mab2187 Месяц назад
I kinda had difficulty understanding you but I seem to get the point. TLDR: There are 2 ways the missile tries to avoid being fooled by flares: A) Gatewith method aka, the Tunnel Vision method. The seeker during the lock stage has a wide perspective to get an easy lock, once fired-it shrinks or it squints its eye, tunnel vision, straight at you. To fool this missile, just make sure to not afterburn and flare in the path of the missile. (R-73 Archer and R550 Magic 2 use this method). B) Tracking Suspension method aka, the Blink method. The seeker once fired, during its travel it blinks/closes its eye to avoid being distracted by flares. It keeps its eye shut for a second or two. During this time it remembers and calculates to predict where you will be when it opens its eye and tries to relock on to you. To fool this missile, just cut back on your burner and flare a decent amount around you and dodge away, cus you might flare the missile but the missile still could relock you or just simply flied into your proximity. (AIM-9M Sidewinder, AAM-3 use this method).
@vincea1830
@vincea1830 Месяц назад
Kinda missed the important part for both. You want to flare so that wherever your aircraft throws the flares, it must intersect with where your afterburner jet was. Example, if your jet throws flares straight down, and you pull UP, then the flares get dumped BELOW your engine, which means the squinting missile never sees the flares. To counter it, you must flare and then go negative G to make the flares come between your exhaust and the missile.
@user-if4zv5nj5m
@user-if4zv5nj5m Месяц назад
AFAIK, you are the first one who came with an actual techniques rather than explanation of mechanics. Great work and thank you for sharing those techniques
@galacticdragon9841
@galacticdragon9841 Месяц назад
The best part of this video is the explanation on how missile seekers work, I don't think many new players actually understand how a missile seeker works in war thunder so using that information players can better understand why you do certain things to flare missiles.
@user-qo5yr7qs8j
@user-qo5yr7qs8j Месяц назад
perfect timing for you video - THANKS - I got shot down twice yesterday in Ground RB and thought I need to do some research to find a way to deal with these - now I have the strategy and just need to put it into practice
@gfcc4133
@gfcc4133 Месяц назад
Ive been watching this channel for a long time, when i first got into the air tree i look at your guides on how to aim and loved your plane reviews. Your lessons on the mechanics of this game have helped not just me but many others. Thank you for your videos DEFYN
@exhausting_thoughts
@exhausting_thoughts Месяц назад
Nice guide Defyn, cool explanation for beginners and intermediate players.
@mariozanninello7307
@mariozanninello7307 Месяц назад
Thank you. Very informative 👏🏻
@SpeedyCraft51
@SpeedyCraft51 Месяц назад
This was a super useful video, I had a vague intuition on how to counter them based on how the IRCCM works but seeing it through the seeker view and with all the detailed explanations helps a lot to understand why it actually works and how to make it work more effectively.
@AddeKnight
@AddeKnight Месяц назад
Dude thank you so much for this tutorial! After a few failed attempts I managed to get the technique right, and the results show!
@johnfredette7420
@johnfredette7420 Месяц назад
Great guide! Thanks for the info!
@DEFYN
@DEFYN Месяц назад
Glad it was helpful!
@ViperFox_
@ViperFox_ Месяц назад
Woah this is why you are the GOAT! Best flare video hands down!
@jasnozreni
@jasnozreni 6 дней назад
Love to watch someone who is really into what he is doing. Wonderful. :)
@adoplwt
@adoplwt Месяц назад
Really well done vid, I hope it will help a lot of players ;DD
@Weaponized__
@Weaponized__ Месяц назад
This is very helpful, thank you!
@molstad182
@molstad182 Месяц назад
kendrick v drake ahh video timing
@UnoReversecard-ys8vl
@UnoReversecard-ys8vl Месяц назад
I think if an 1800's victorian child read this comment his head would just explode
@molstad182
@molstad182 Месяц назад
@@UnoReversecard-ys8vl my bad queen Elizabeth😔
@UnoReversecard-ys8vl
@UnoReversecard-ys8vl Месяц назад
@@molstad182 man I was kidding your comment was funny (gave it a like too)
@Donkeymaster9000
@Donkeymaster9000 Месяц назад
@@UnoReversecard-ys8vlcan I borrow your uno reverse card?
@kuc4692
@kuc4692 Месяц назад
Thank you and have a nice summer
@jakobc.2558
@jakobc.2558 Месяц назад
The information in this video is invaluable.
@Iameminem6346
@Iameminem6346 23 дня назад
Thank you defyn
@Epic_candle
@Epic_candle Месяц назад
I always loved your guides, helped me a lot when I just started learning wt air combat
@aktivleo3692
@aktivleo3692 Месяц назад
Very useful video 👌🏼❤️
@WelsyCZ
@WelsyCZ Месяц назад
Thanks for the video man!
@nimbal3304
@nimbal3304 Месяц назад
This is great but what about the Red Top's?
@MrJibJub13
@MrJibJub13 Месяц назад
so helpful!
@coolvibes5470
@coolvibes5470 Месяц назад
the best tutioral I've ever seen, job well done man
@user-jy6cn3jy8g
@user-jy6cn3jy8g Месяц назад
One little thing - it will work almost 100% of the time in duels but in 16v16 where pretty common situation is when 3-5+ missiles including SARH ones are all coming towards you at the same time from different angles - it won’t help much)
@Elijah1573
@Elijah1573 Месяц назад
Yeah sensory overload is pretty much the issue there Defeating IRCCM is pretty easy but when you try to in 16v16 furballs it just becomes a mess
@urielOrnstein
@urielOrnstein Месяц назад
@@Elijah1573 R27ER live reaction to flares:
@frederik7411
@frederik7411 Месяц назад
So hyped for this
@YaegerYT
@YaegerYT Месяц назад
I've been waiting for this moment for a loong time
@casanasmiguel
@casanasmiguel Месяц назад
Thank you 🫡
@zackgonters1669
@zackgonters1669 Месяц назад
He wasn't kidding, he really pulled the best tutorial XD This put everyone else to shame damn lol
@xRotivx
@xRotivx Месяц назад
You dont know how long i was waiting for this video
@Skynet_15
@Skynet_15 Месяц назад
Omg the sensor view for these kinds of video is a genuine god send I'm so grateful Gaijin added them cause now we can analyze missile seekers and all, fantastic tutorial overall DEFYN more quality than I was seeking
@ex0ghost837
@ex0ghost837 Месяц назад
10/10 edge very good video length👍🏻
@Ashok0305
@Ashok0305 Месяц назад
All the technology, Nice video 📹
@1quackquack1
@1quackquack1 Месяц назад
excellent guide
@ThePeanut999
@ThePeanut999 Месяц назад
It's here! Only 5 years in the making! Thank you daddy DEFYN!
@Phage-
@Phage- 24 дня назад
I appreciate you
@mochabear88
@mochabear88 Месяц назад
that was fun ty
@BanjoJo
@BanjoJo Месяц назад
I'm at the J35D just before the fun stuff and chaos of top tier - first nation and first time jets. This video has been very informative for my upcoming grinding In simple term: turn off afterburner, use reverse thrust covers if you have - pop flare(s) first, then turn away. Ideally position yourself so the direction of flare remains in the bandwidth area whilst you aren't. Be offset from enemy position, fire flares towards direction of flares and turn slightly away. Roll flare, turn away
@dragoneye0979
@dragoneye0979 Месяц назад
In my experience flaring M's, finding the right tempo for dropping flares to keep the seeker head off for longer really helps with avoiding them. I tend to go for about 2-3 pops a second
@platy002
@platy002 Месяц назад
GOAT WT Tuber right here
@coolginypiggames4363
@coolginypiggames4363 Месяц назад
the seek slander is wild and Im here for it
@iansysoev9462
@iansysoev9462 Месяц назад
Defyn hit the griddy with this one 🗣🗣🗣📢📢📢
@twentysix37
@twentysix37 Месяц назад
Nice
@PerriThePlatyPilot
@PerriThePlatyPilot Месяц назад
Daddy Defyn taking care of us
@CommunistTomCruize
@CommunistTomCruize 28 дней назад
I just subscribed to your channel, just because its helpful at least
@Dave-_-
@Dave-_- Месяц назад
common W Defyn
@historybuff222
@historybuff222 Месяц назад
lovin' the papyrus font 😎
@Shigatori01
@Shigatori01 Месяц назад
"Here Is How You Actually Stop Dying To IRCCM Missiles Effectively" in the style of the average university reading: War thunder, reveals in its 10 odd years of existence, in the Prescence of IRCCM missiles has presented itself as a central role of addition of the features along with a flurry upon the destruction of the game mode , What could the presence of IRCCM missiles indicate, that the Battle rating may it lives upon, it may be only the platonic ideal of the toxic fighter main. the occurrence of the IRCCM missiles only has juxtaposed itself as between the matchmaker of 16v16, in discord with the systematic wrenching of BR compression await the staggering polarity between realism and and the sublimity through trivial lament of the blatantly vulgar Gaijin. The parenthesis of the parameters of the juxtaposition between the benign and the sublime as the DEFYN confides to his views, the below the the realism, this cubism, deeply stirred the community of in the last few months. DEFYN, who was has over the last 5 years manifested himself has the interpreter of war thunder to great acclaim, has responded with Just Flare". with the utterance of two words, how sublime, reminiscent of the Daoist manual written in 500BCE. Its compact nature opens up a whole new world of possibility of interpretation for the player base manifests itself as the law of nature in the war thunder ideal Just watch the video and learn to flare (why tf are you reading this)
@ShadowBroker000
@ShadowBroker000 Месяц назад
that wall of text hit me like a flashbang
@PrusslanSeal
@PrusslanSeal Месяц назад
i can finally do something against those pesky magic 2's in an uptier thank you DEFYN!
@xshaddd
@xshaddd Месяц назад
thank you my little pookie bear, I will try and not mald in air rb anymore
@riflemen9057
@riflemen9057 Месяц назад
The missile knows where it is at all times
@Minigun_-nj1tf
@Minigun_-nj1tf Месяц назад
DEFYN out here with another tutorial so we may stay on the war thunder grind
@hannut2520
@hannut2520 Месяц назад
A wonderful guide as usual, it was worth the wait ^^ Unfortunately, it's seems not as easy to flare the 9M in arcade... something feels wrong
@salltyboi
@salltyboi Месяц назад
Mwuah defyn ❤️
@BlackbirdDrozd
@BlackbirdDrozd Месяц назад
Very usefull summary, a bit harder to apply for sim pilots. But still possible. ;)
@theblackopssniper34
@theblackopssniper34 Месяц назад
He made the video he said he was gonna make, nice o7
@AtomicKepler
@AtomicKepler Месяц назад
Can't wait for gaijin to implement the AAM-3's dual band seeker- Infrared and Ultraviolet-
@stevenkravitz6377
@stevenkravitz6377 Месяц назад
9:56 I agree that it really is that shrimple.
@ElderWillows
@ElderWillows Месяц назад
Defyn still shaping me into the player I am today. Fucking legend.
@aimfa
@aimfa Месяц назад
Watched the seek's vid first and with this one, i can finally dodge every IRCCM cam.
@OnlinecarshowNet1
@OnlinecarshowNet1 16 дней назад
A10 has hundreds though. I put it on periodic when I hit the battle line and get a solid radar hit. Rest of planes I try to keep radar in mind and what find of missile is approaching and use manual flares with chaff. I usually use flare priority till I get to 11 rating. Then a mix.
@Filipino_guy1
@Filipino_guy1 Месяц назад
When Defyn cooks up a banger you best bet ima eat up all the meat and the bush foods 🤤
@chaosinsurgency6636
@chaosinsurgency6636 Месяц назад
The chalkboard returns
@ottaro_pog
@ottaro_pog Месяц назад
The cook served us yet another 5 star dish
@robingyarmati2440
@robingyarmati2440 Месяц назад
You made me lose my edging streak😢
@ryhs0
@ryhs0 Месяц назад
this made me start my edging streak
@Tuhrue
@Tuhrue Месяц назад
Honestly, I like to think this is more than just a game with how technical Defyn's tutorials are. Thanks man💯
@bensalvador113
@bensalvador113 Месяц назад
I love the video, very informative. One caveat is you have to know when and where the missile is. This is best for Arcade. Not really suited for Sim.
@brandonbao7097
@brandonbao7097 Месяц назад
I never seem to have that much luck with IRCCM missiles anyway, for the most part it feels just like normal IR missiles where as long as the enemy flares with enough time the missile will miss. Ground launched IRCCM missiles though seems like literal black magic, no matter how you try to evade it just won't stop tracking you, like the TY-90.
@Panocek
@Panocek Месяц назад
Combined shrinking FoV and tracking suspension, with latter taking precedence. But because its narrower FoV, it will update more frequently.
@pedrolft9010
@pedrolft9010 Месяц назад
my only sunshine
@urielOrnstein
@urielOrnstein Месяц назад
AWOOGA
@ivanvukadin3194
@ivanvukadin3194 Месяц назад
Do you have any idea how to defeat the Ground IRCCM missiles form SPAAs?
@andreasbedellus2458
@andreasbedellus2458 21 день назад
@DEFYN Could you please make the same video, but how to defeat IR SAMs? Stuff like Ozelot, Strela 10 M2 etc. Those seem to be completely undefeatable especially from rear aspect. How do they work? Is it possible to apply the same techniques against them?
@AxelTinuZZ
@AxelTinuZZ Месяц назад
Could you do one for the the stinger missiles? Or do they work the same?
@irithylloldman6526
@irithylloldman6526 Месяц назад
The IRCCM knows where it is
@ventischair9158
@ventischair9158 Месяц назад
Goon sesh: Recommended
@henri2058
@henri2058 Месяц назад
Love this video, should minimize the amount of people complain that the missiles are op.
@CrusaderLegFoot
@CrusaderLegFoot 29 дней назад
Cool! Time for me immediately forget everything and randomly use at one point a few months later without realizing and then never use it again.
@kanepreton9588
@kanepreton9588 6 дней назад
I've seen my missles walk back onto targets before because they are tracking the constant stream of CM coming out of the aircraft
@josiahhughes9628
@josiahhughes9628 Месяц назад
Rad ❤
@thequietabyss1304
@thequietabyss1304 Месяц назад
Could you possibly do a video on the seafire fr 47? Not that many videos of it on RU-vid
@ArmagedonCS
@ArmagedonCS Месяц назад
whenever he say drop 2 flares he means 4 because they drop in 2 in his video keep that in mind because you can set it up how many flares come out and different planes have for example single flares at a time
@looke3392
@looke3392 Месяц назад
Great now everyone is going to be able to flare my missiles
@randomguy477
@randomguy477 Месяц назад
Does flare priority drop 2 flares and 1 chaff? Because I'd still like to bring some chaff in my F15. Also, do you do the same thing that you did with the Su27 to flare the 9Ms in the F15, since the flares deploy downwards?
@plag6741
@plag6741 Месяц назад
finally
@feuerbolt6785
@feuerbolt6785 Месяц назад
Well this would be verry helpfull, if I only had to defend against one or two enemys at a time, and we all know, this often is not the case. I personally found the best defense against missiles is to not get them launched at you in the first place. Positioning is key! Still this is a verry helpfull video for when you need this, thank you DEFIN!
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