War Thunder's Coastal Crisis: Unplayable or Challenge? 

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I agree with everything you said in the intro. A brown water mode would be such an interesting mode.

The fact that you can grind out the entire coastal tree and still get obliterated by reserve destroyers is insane

Trying to play the Fairmile line is.....pain, I gave up and I really love the Fairmile series. It's a shame about coastal. Love the video.

I've been trying to grind the Saetta from scratch and I'm burnt out hard. Coastal has become insane - I have an SKR7 and I feel the enemies pain when I deploy that.

100k+ for a PT boat is ridiculous The cyclone is in a weird place. It’s super powerful and almost broken against small boats, but against vessels of similar size it’s way underpowered. The Asheville is in a similar place

Considering I almost exclusively play coastal, it is sad to see so little interest in it. It is far more exciting than bluewater in my opinion, and it could be even better if they'd balance the boats properly and make the seas less choppy! Side note: WHERE ARE MY FRENCH COASTAL BOATS?? It has been FOUR MAJOR UPDATES since the introduction of the French Navy.

I recently spaded the US 3.3 coastals and i really wished for a coastal only mode. Put the fregattes into the bluewaters and let people decide if they want to face bluewaters in coastals or stay a bit longer in the que. with most coastals i would prefere to wait a bit longer

You know normandy would make a great mode for combined arms battle with costal, like add the D point as a naval capture.

I used to exclusively play coastal RB, but then the destroyers started showing up in 2.3 BR, with the destroyers simply sitting out and blasting everything from 3-4 kms. I simply gave up because now the destroyers with their multi bulkhead DMs tanked even two torps. The corvettes were simply made obsolete. Only use i have left for them is on the top tier bluewater matches where the dreadnoughts don't pay attention to a sneaky little boat, and get mined by them. But then again those bots playing SKRs simply ruin my day far too often.

Please forgive the unnaturalness of the text as it is a machine translation. Once the decision was made to implement German SF40 and other anti-aircraft barges and the Soviet SKR series, the WARTHUNDER littoral ships were forced to decline. Those weapons are too powerful and balance breakers that destroy to pieces the motivation of players who are just starting out in coastal ship. And a group of clan members who can play them in squads of three ships are lobbying diligently among the player community to not have the BR changed. I am only aware of the Japanese community, but there is a group of existing SKR owners who are too eager to prevent the increase of SKR's BR, and they are waging a " forum war" by Japanese players for Japanese players on WIKI's and so on. So until the brainwashing activities of these players are eliminated, it will be difficult to increase the number of Warthunder coastal naval players.

Other than my SKR7 I hate trying to play boats now. I cannot remember the last time I got a torpedo kill on a ship in RNB. One problem is the fact that boats were never intended to fight combat ships on their own. One solution may be to introduce maps that have more hiding places for a boats to set up attacks from.

Something I noticed with pt boats past 3.3 is you need a selection of a lot of crew to do good simply because of all the maps and sea states. Even with 10 crews I find myself wanting more to get 3 bluewater and a variety of coastal for the different situations and a variety of planes and sea planes

Absolutely spot on! The snail has done coastal dirty and the worst thing they did was split the trees. Would love it if they re combined. Also, I would love the coastal only mode and brown water maps. Small boats are my absolute favorite!

I've started to make this video multiple times. You've said everything I've wanted to say and more. I love you Ty.

i mostly play Britain's 2.7 coastal. the only reason why is the HMS Brantford which bodies anything smaller than it. plus ive managed to use depth charges to great effect cause they rarely detonate on the rack and take care of the small boats that try to sail beneath my gun

Pretty much almost remaking the entire Coastal and Navy from the ground up, I played during the open beta of coastal and yeah it pretty much almost never changed in terms of how elaborate and thought through it is. Probably Gaijin will focus more on that once the problems of the "Main" gamemodes will be dealt with, but i've stop playing Navy because of most of those problems listed in the video, it's just not fun or enticing to play against Powercreep and etc... The only gamemode I play when it's there is EC because people there communicate, try to have strategies and there the gamemode is enticing even tho it takes 2 hours for mediocre rewards. Navy will have it's time to shine, but not now, WT is too invested in their main game mode...

I have entirely the opposite issue. I bring a 4.3 pt boat to 7.0 and it's usually my first spawn. Run in. Get a couple caps dump torpedoes. Rearm dump again till I die.. I was a little disappointed with the cyclone. I wanted her so bad. As her sister Squall is the only active duty USB vessel I've been in. But it's ok. But I routinely get a heavy cruiser kill or badly damage a battleship with my tiny pt

The pr 206 and 206m are absolute shredders of all pt boats, the only thing that i fear in them is the saetta and dougies missiles.

That M-802 still has a costal spawn is quite beyond me

I fully agree with your statements, this is very difficult to play in this situation.

I would love if they added coldwar and more modern coastals into warthunder so that it can fight against 3rd and 4rth gen aircraft

Meanwhile SKR-7 still absolutely shitting on everything.

The split in the tree was the biggest problem, all the top br pt bots that I have is from that part of the ships

One issue that I encountered with the split of the naval trees that i dont see brought up too often is that I had actually put decent hours into the original tree when it first came out, so i had obtained a good chunk of pt boats. However with the split and with several br changes, i have boats in rank III that i dont even have access to because everything beforehand i have to research. I had a pt boat with around 2k rp left of research, thats now locked behind every single rank II and some rank III boats, increasing the amount of sl and rp needed for a boat that i would have gotten otherwise. With the way coastal plays out, i can barely manage to research any of these, and so ive given up really.

I think coastal and blue water should be able to grind each other since they play in the same matches :) and are both sea vehicles. Also less grind XD but that won't happen.

Trees just need to re-merge. The old progression was just stupid. Should’ve been a research line for each type, not working up from PTs to battleships. Top tier coastal being 400k rp is insane

I know it was mostly just complaining, but this was one of your best videos. Coastal SUCKS and it doesn't need to. The worst part being the progression. I could handle the ups and downs to some extent if I didn't have to do it for hundreds of matches to get anywhere because boats have the same cost as battleships. Some matches and BRs I may not be able to do anything because getting matched in with destroyers means you either have no other boats to fight, or you have to fight a frigate or destroyer you can't damage. Separate matchmaking would solve this, even if it would mean more bots. At least the bots spawn in boats! Poor modeling is another - albeit smaller - issue, wherein certain vessels are always at a disadvantage because they use the simplified hull DM despite being the same size if not bigger that those that have a complex DM. There is no consistency between who gets this damage model, and in many cases older ships of considerable size were never upgraded when the model was added (ex. LCS, Asheville, K-8 frigates). Finally you got the sea states, which of course greatly reduce the capability of certain boats that aren't designed for them, without reducing their BR. In many if not most battles, the long guns on the USSR river boats are completely unusable, forcing you to rely solely on the secondaries. This works great if you have excellent secondary guns. However, this doesn't work when the boat factors the useless bow gun into the BR and puts it against enemies it thinks you can fight (ex. Pr.191 being forced to use 12.7mms at 2.7+BR). The sea state also disproportionately affects hydrofoils which are supposed to be more stable at speed. In War Thunder, however, they're worse than having a regular hull even on flat waters (ex. Tucumcari requiring you to move at 2/3 ahead for any sort of accuracy).

Anything above 3.7 is a death sentence.

As a mostly coastal player i find annoying af when you are in a coastal and AI anti air of destroyers annoy you from 4 km and sometimes kill you with them even knowing

I think it’s important to keep coastal and bluewater trees separate for new players. It’s really helped any friends I have had starting who are usually coming from wows. I love the swell, for open water torpedo boats this is just how it was. For coastal littoral stuff, well they were meant to guard the coastline and or patrol rivers not to tangle against blue water fleets. Although we don’t have the big british coastal monitors yet which had battleship guns. I am honestly not sure where coastal fits but am glad they made them, not sure about a solution and I do still see a fair few of them.

they shouldn't've split coastal and bluewater fleets into completely separate trees... I love bouncing in the waves as speedy PT boats but why bother with anything smaller than a destroyer in the current state of WT naval? Map design doesn't help... too many maps (when I still bothered having coastal boats in my lineup) are so big it was pointless to bring anything that couldn't sling shells 10+km. What could help is make boats act like light tanks. Let PT boats scout enemies, tweak maps to give narrow shortcuts that not even destroyers can fit through, more opportunities for torpedo ambushes, let lower caliber shells damage crew on the superstructures (like at those open-air MG mounts) to still give gunboats an actual use when they can't pen.

It’s cause those (not counting the few rare exceptions) when naval was announced basically take nothing short of Battleships

1) Coastal's "original sin" is that most people don't give a damn about PT boats, unless they have personal history relating to one ship. Scharnhorst, Hood & the like get name recognition, which means some people are bound to try and grind for them. Saetta P.494 not so much. That is not something Gaijin can really do anything about. 2) The second problem for Coastal is that it mixes and matches many categories of boats which really have nothing to do with each other. A river patrol boat will never meet a torpedo boat or a frigate in anger, but they are still matched together. On top of that, Coastal is the hardest case of mixing pre-WW2 tech, WW2 tech and cold war tech. The difference in capabilities is obvious, and it is just as ridiculous to face a cold war patrol boat in a WW2 torpedo-boat as it is to face destroyers. Gaijin should try and break those apart : Cold war "coastal" ships are the best way to get into cold war navy tactics with missile slinging etc. but that must mean they go at a !!! higher BR than battleships !!! so there can also be interplay with helicopters and jets ; when it comes to WW2 coastals, you should distinguish between A) boats which can somewhat face bluewater ships (mostly torpedo boats) & B) boats that can't and should either only face themselves, or maybe be mixed with ground battles. 3) A third problem is in fundamental game mechanics : A) the "lock rectangle" which means sneaking around isn't really possible vs an aware player, B) auto-targeting secondaries for the same reason, C) damage model, because the PT boat ones are wholly ridiculous (either with the Frigate black holes or the "any hit anywhere will OHK" torpedoboats) and D) too powerful aim predictor, which makes killing PT boats relatively easy if they are not dodging super hard. Problem A can be solved with the "camera stabilisation" from helicopters & targeting pods. Problem B can be solved by requiring players to manually tell their secondaries to shoot at something. Problem C is a bit tougher because it requires a larger re-thinking of naval damage models in general, however it would be a minor issue if coastal didn't face bluewater quite so much. Problem D can be solved by replacing the current "X marks the spot" with a "range of probably hit" which could get better with distance. 4) As you point out, coastal also especially suffers from using ground battles game mode mechanics, and absolutely does require custom gamemodes which cater to the specific characteristics of boats. 5) As a final point, I think naval gamemodes in general would benefit from finally getting rid of the mixed battles in RB - this would allow ships to actually go up against their would-be contenders and make grinding specific trees more valuable. It would also allow for better balancing because OP ships wouldn't cancel their own OPness out by being on either side.

Snail should make rule: If you have only coastal, you will get battle of coastal-only. Balance inside coastal tree is very(3x) bad too, ships with 16mm hull just kill everything no matter what BR is. M-802 or drache can easily kill Pr.206 which is 4.3. Or Pr. 12412 is higher in BR then Pr. 1331M or Pr.204. Or make trees not coastal or blue, but WWII and boats+postwar. WWII gameplay is about bigger calibers and more armor, while post war is about no armor but different capabilities and weaponry.

Given up on spading any newer vehicles since all the research was increased, it took months to do the SKR for Russia and had over 100 games with poltava with only 30% research done. Plus it’s like ground RB now, get points, get a plane, get free kills.

Definitely a challenge but it's not impossible. Both you and I know how powerful some of those tiny boats can be when used in ambush tactics with a run and gun style. Yes a lot of them can be absolutely atrocious. BUT, the gems that are in each tech tree ranging all battle ratings, make up massively. And when used by an experienced skipper, can be lethal to even battle cruisers. I'm 200% on board for a coastal game mode too. That would be such a fun game mode to play, it would be intense to no end haha.

i as a new player in costal battle i allways have this issue of a reserve boat fitghing a top tier costal boat man i cant do anything against an 80s costal boat armored by a destroyer armor and large caliber guns what can i do against those with a 30mm cannon?

what I belive is indeed that we need a new mode for boats like assault mode( which could be like defend or attack convoys) or we need highter br tech tree with limitation on planes that one can bring (most ships as we are now are not actually able to defend itself against jets unless we talk about of some russian costal ships) or a mixed battle option which would include the coastal actually being able to support the land forces, either being aa cover(possibly nerfed like bombers gunners) or engaging actual tanks, but atm we don t have many maps that can do so (unless we convert some naval air battle maps into this hybrid thing)

And then all of a sudden you have something like skr-7, which can easily obliterate cruisers that came for recapture of the point without even coming into visual range...

You must be very patient when using Pr. 1124, Pr.191, MBK pr.186, MBK-161 boat. My tactic when using those boats are only use the main gun for a big ship at long range/medium range (Harassing fire) with Shoot-and-scoot tactic on rough sea while holding capture points. I have MBK-161 Late, I sometimes kill enemy destroyer with its main cannon and it is so satisfying

IMO, Coastal Fleet Naval Battles are a disaster: from BR 1.0 to ~3.3. Getting into battles is hard and getting up-tiered is a commonplace. Gaijin should definitely do something about it before it's too late. Otherwise, they might stop developing Coastal Fleet tech trees and only people who have got them already would be able to keep them.

I've got a few ideas in mind for coastal but what Im gonna do is do a bit more research and present it in the discord. Though that could be a server wide task for us all. We all pulling things together.

I'm just tired of being told "go play World of Warships". I really want warthunder naval to be great. It's a way better simulation than WoWs, but no one wants to play it in it's current state.

They should make it so in realistic and arcade, blue water ships can’t detect or lock on to coastal ships until they are within 1-2km depending on skill, make the ships ‘stealthy’ so they can manoeuvre and get close to DDs and Cruisers to deliver their torps etc. that would make them way more deadly

Tried it, met the skr 7, quit naval. Literly that simple.

Coastal has so much potential that it isn't even funny how simple it should be for Gaijin to introduce it and it would make everything much more enjoyable. Actually, entire game can be summed up as wasted potential.

It seems weird to me, that despite Coastal being older than Bluewater, the gameplay loop just doesn’t seem to be fleshed out. I started Naval with Coastal and at the rank 1 and 2 everything seemed to be so weird. You get a small boat with machine guns, that get big gun style aiming in a sea like waters with big waves, so the aiming is all over the place. You get big ass torpedoes and unlock-able depth charges, that you have no use for at all. Then you get a boat with cannon thats unusable unless you get a map with calm waters. All the boats there get one shoted in case you encounter a real player with no reload auto-cannon, otherwise you just shoot helpless ai. The way you have to destroy them is to gradually paint their whole ship black:) Or if you get a slow boat, chances are, you will lose before you get to closest cap point. If you want to win the match, you usually just have to ride to sunset for about 10 minutes doing nothing to cap the point.

they should try to make game modes involving at least 2 branches but not like it is done now, more with like 2 simultaneous battles on one map - coastal and ground, blue fleet and air, something like that. It's all in the game

Naval battles were a big part of why I started playing the game, but I had to completely stop playing it because of how it got.

The problem for me is so many people playing the same 3 or 4 meta vehicles. I just gave up on italian coastal after rank 2 because its no fun getting constantly nuked by skr-7 dorks and it taking a year to grind out a new vehicle

Given up on top tier coastal to be honest. Just use it for capping(BR 2.7 is my highest for that) now unless I have a fun match with all ships below BR 3.0

I think it wouldbenifit coastal if ai gunners would no longer fire on targets that they see immediately. If you had no choice but to designate targets for primary secondary and aa in order for the gunners to fire, then coastal and torpedo boats would gain the element of suprise back. Also since torpedos are your only serious weapon against larger vessel's maybe they could get respqwning torpedos in realistic

I know people say there isn't a Russian bias but in naval and coastal there sure seems to be. Russia has the most modern coastal fleet and you can say the same for bluewater. You have rissian coastals like the SKR models obliterating coastal vehicles like nothing and doing a good job in blue water at mid to low tiers. They eat shells even after being turned into swiss cheese. They have a unicorn ship that ive seen stay afloat after 3 ammo detonations, a modern guided missile destroyer some modern light cruisers one from 1986. While the 2 most powerful navies have either outdated coastal or outdated bluewater. I guess Japan gets some love but thats it

Hopefully missile ships with their own gamemode one day

I think the fundamental problems of naval are progression and continuity between bluewater and coastal. The fact that you have to grind the entire coastal tree just to reach vessels that take as much effort and cost as battlehips only to be blasted to pieces by players that have barely put any effort into bluewater is just crazy. I would like to see coastal and bluewater be combined again but that the vertical progression system is kept. Under this system all research costs would have to be adjusted to align with the new tiers that would emerge where current high tier coastal would effectively be mid tiers in terms of costs. This would have to be combined with decompression, reassigned BRs, and changes to map design depending on BR to make matchups between vessels of different sizes fair. Completely separating bluewater and coastal may seem like a better alternative to many players, but that split is entirely arbitrary. There's no fundamental difference between the Chidori in coastal and the likes of the Churchill and T22 (the latter literally being designated a torpedo boat) in bluewater. It's not like helicopters and airplanes for example. What is missing is decompression to make matchups between what is currently high tier coastal and low tier bluewater fair and the addition of ships that bridge the gap between coastal and bluewater, things like escort destroyers, frigates, and large torpedo boats.

Yeah coastal is fun but there’s so many things making it unfun. I just recently started grinding Russia coastal and the river boats are nice but they just can’t hit anything. And I have to grind upwards of 200,000rp just to get out of them and to the groza. Also Could you play the Krasny Krym at some point?

The river boats and subchasers in Japan are the same story, except even slower and weaker armament. They easiest they could do, is to folder river boats and make them more optional that way. Also what do you think of separate BR ratings announced in 2024 roadmap? Could it indicate more posibilities for Naval as well?

I've always enjoyed your content and when I was new I learned how to coastal really from you. Unfortunately after after all this time I have spent now as a Naval main I dont even play War Thunder Naval any more. I dropped out about a week ago and went to World Of Warships specifically because they have submarines. I assume if WT ever adds subs to help deal with the over powered Battleships that run the waters now Id come back but if that never happens I probably wont.

I would really want to get into coastal but afaik the bluewater ships will just tear you a new one and the coastal only mode idk if exists or is a secret mode

Despite loving naval history and playing world of warships a decent amount, I've always found it more fun to play costal, but for the same reason killing helicopters in biplanes is fun. You really have to just be stealthy and vietcong it

The t34 turet river bots are unplayable

Gaijin is so braindead as for naval game mode. The ordinary mindset to make money is: we separate costal and blue water, so the weak coastals are playable, and we can make money both ways. What do they do? Put them together. Wasting tons of money and efforts building models that no one even bother to look at. Plus, low br coastals still fight against costals. The higher br you go, the higher chance to fight against bluewaters. When you reach the top of costals, congrats you will face bluewaters 100% and get sunk by destroyers even light cruisers. In short, costal is "grind for pain"" and "pay to suffer".

Cant say i agree with making players play coastal first. Just because some players dont care about them doesnt mean everyone should be forced to play them before Destroyers.

Basically the entire player base is on board with the 0.7 BR spread in matchmaking (at least for certain modes/tiers) Gaijin just absolutely refuses to acknowledge this though. Even the goons on their Twitch channel defend the 1.0 BR range

I think they should give especially toptier of coast fleet better survivability, like why should a project 201 be so much more survivable than a project 206, and especially the bridge of latest coastal boats is killing them because one hit kills the whole bridge, but because it's very big the half of the crew dies. of course the weoponry is very good on these boats, but survivability is just pure shit, especially if you wanna go against destroyers that are not reverse tier, thoses autocannons kill you in seconds. Maybe adition of missile boats like Project.205, 206MR.... would help, togethere with a ok survivability. And then there's the M802 and M17, almost unkillable with 4.3 coast fleet boats, and it get's a coast fleet spawn, meanwhile Project 1331 has same survivability, speed and firepower(since rbu6000 got nerved hard) but higher br and bluewater spawn.

Wish they had kept it the way it was

Have you tried the Boat Crew? It seems like a proper coastal navy game at the moment:)

I love playing coastal and I’ve had quite a bit is success against larger vessels, u just have to be strategic

I wonder how Gaijin will handle more advanced coastal boats. I don't see a good way to fit them in the current gameplay.

A what happened to the Thumbs Up nad B) waiting on my French Coastal to finally be added

Im currently stuck just before the last tier in US. Just not enough rp to get from research. The fact a 3.3 frigate apparently costs as much as a 6.3 battleship blows my mind. Naval is already dying due to Gaijin’s incompetence. If naval is the odd one out, coastal is the black sheep. Two of the biggest issues are that battleships are always gonna be dominating the gamemode. Few ships can effectively pen them at long distances. So why not spawn aircraft? Well thats the second problem, most ships have good AAA coverage. So its hard enough as is, but now Gaijin has been adding in SAM missile ships at 3.7! The highest tier in naval is currently 7.0! Meaning your getting ww2 and cold war planes against guided anti air missiles. So basically battleships one biggest weakness is completely muted by another ship and you better believe the battleships will have at least one SAM carrier on their side.

I think the main reason people play this game, is not nececarily for the gamemodes or the maps, but it is just to collect vehicles, warthunder is a vehicle collection game. there are ofcourse tons and tons of interesting gamemodes gaijin can do and have expirimented with, but the only thing players want to do is grind their desired vehicle fast and efficiently, or else they wont play a gamemode. Thats's why the only ships that have hype are battleships because they are cool, i know hardly anyone that actually plays naval at all, but if they do they usually do it for the battleships

Only chance costal has are its torp and most costal boat still struggle againt reserve deepwater shipa

Your not wrong, I am new to the game like navel best and I thought it was me, it would not be as bad if I could just hit something be for my boat sinks. Its awful, you spawn in and strat away you getting hit, 2 to 3 shots and the ship is done, so frustrating.

I think i might a good person to give a overview as i started 2 weeks ago or some and got up with a free acocount pretty quiockly first qith destroyers then leveling the small boats after so they are on the same tier kinda atleast that was my plan. but it shows u then get upranked against boats where u nearly have no chance even if u try to hide play slow beeing patient etc. when the enemy has a American Destroyer or other US Vessel of some sorts ur pretty much mashed potatoe those secondary gunners lazer u accross the map (sometiems 5kilometers or more) when they are upleveled and most of them are because people smurf with groups in low rank with high tier crews. Best part about this is this doesnt even require skill because the secondary gunenrs are just AI meaning they can focus on other stuff while kill u casualy in the meantime and there is specialy one map i hate the most about this problem, i dont know the name its with many little isle in the middle forming a somewhat bigger blob of isle in the middle of the map on this map u sapwn at like roughly 5-6 km away from the enemy meaning u get lazerd from their sec gunenrs right from the spawn and the little isle doesnt cover u from the sec fire because they can shoot trough hills threes etc. this alone is something so annyoing and some boats take like 2 or 5 good secondary hits from this vessels and ur back to the menu. I think this is also caused by the thing u mentioned Tyrael, that Submarines and Carriers are missing and just in general the matches should be more mixed units like u said a navy is a navy because it has many boats for many roles and not just Dreadnoughts and Battleships. Destroyers can focus on boats and such way too mcu hin my opinion they should support battleships right from the start also meaning tech threes should be changed that u can start with what u want yes even a battleship, because if u start iwth a vessel from ww 1 or inbetween war era ships theyre likely very much close to destroyers from the start of the war. Also another Tech threes issue, they are horrible designed because the miss so many units i guess it is a temporary solution but its still horrible. I should never fight boats or ships from after the war, with ships from the start, hell even like 1 or 2 years in WW2 are likely some huge technological advances when it comes to units like tanks ships and all that. Sometimes i faced Pr 206M with my starting boat of some nation like obvious im gonna lose maybe i get a lucky torpedo because he playd stupid or took too long to the flag but guns ? I feel boats could also benefit if there is some courrage to go with ur other ships to support them or keep enemy torpedo boats of from killing ur whole team but maybe teams need to be bigger so more people can paly ships and boats at the sametime supporting each other. Mixing ships with land units sounds also cool because u could actulay give fire support on coordinates palyers can give u so the AI artillery turns intlo real ship artillery that would be so cool giving more incent to work together instead of everybody grinding foir themselfs that is why i jenjoyd huge battles very much or how they are called where u can sink the enemy CV capture points along the coast and stuff u have something toi do atleast isntead of just driving 90 degress right to ur enemy along a line shooting the whole time not even realizing that all points are captured and u will lose then when u reach the map end u just make a 180 and rinse repeat. Its so frustrating because poeple get tunnel visioned while doing this only focusing on getting as much hits for the grind exp. Winning should be more rewarding so poeple actualy have a insentive to Play in a team Sorry for my english at times im not a native so im trying my best ^^ I dont know if some things are maybe wrong i say because im new and just dont know but that is what noticed after playing warthunder naval intensly for 2 weeks straight

Dedicated coastal maps would be welcome. Also we could forward a topic on wt forum, apparently it is sent to developers, if enough people vote.

I think costal fleet is way more fun, but gijin don't care and keep adding spown kill maps, also costal fleet will way more played ween submarine will be add. Still hope for naval PvE mode

It’s too much. Way too much of a grind for coastal vessels. I even feed the snail from time to time and still I’m miles away from top tier on any nation ☹️

Yea, i easily kill coastal with no problem in my destroyers, but one thing that is broken and mind dumb, it is the SKR 7, that thing is stupidly strong

I like the coastal boats but I would rather use a powerful blue water ship

To be perfecly honest, I feel like Naval, and especially coastal will remain a gimmick in War Thunder. They need a lot of fixes, Gaijin needs money, It's just not worth trying to Fix BW and Coastal, it takes too much resources to please a very small portion of the playerbase. It's also evident that most people are not intrested in WT Naval anyways. The fact that we don't have the Bismarck, Iowa or the Yamato also kinda repels people from trying Naval in the first place, but Coastal ships are ignored by the layman's majority, so nobody ever downloaded War Thunder exclusively to play BOAT. So yes, Gaijin will most probably hear us, but they won't do anything major.

definetly unplayable. the maps are bad, the balance is horrible for example you can have a boat with 2x7.7 mm machine guns against a boat with 1x40mm 2x20mm and 1x.50 and thats not even a full uptier, in rb maps with lot of waves make many of the earlier vessels useless, having to play against dds and higher is a deathsentence, some maps are way too large for coastal and some of the damagemodels are busted

difference in DM is the issue here. But I think it is fine. Sure top tier boats can be one shot by a DD, but I guess thats what things should be

U.S. coastal is awful. Russian coastal is so much better. But to grind all the way to top tier coastal russia just to get fucked by low tier destroyers sucks

I have all coastal trees complete, dont understand the issue, super easy to be honest if you know what you are doing and understand naval warfare....