War with Russia? Stephen F. Cohen and Dan Rather in Conversation with Katrina Vanden Heuvel 

Gary Waxmonsky lucky

You were fortunate. And you are gracious. But he could have selected a (far) better spouse.

Wow

@BLAIR M Schirmer the US should not!! arm!! Ukraine!! That's a good thing.

@BLAIR M Schirmer Arming a rogue state run by proud nazi fascist it a terrible idea and the Ukraine people are the victims of the CIA/State Department coup in Feb 2014. 14,000 or more people have been killed in defending against the fascists who are funded, equipped and trained by the US. It is a war crime to support that.

Exactly is the case with mine.When i wondered why there is no interview of stephen cohen in this current crisis of ukraine Russia war.When i searched about him, finally i knew he is no more in this world.Very sad to learn that.REST IN PEACE SIR

@@sandeep2435 I thought that we would hear from Mr Cohen on what's taking place today. Then I googled to see if there were any interviews or anything else on him and only to find out he died in 2020. I was really sad to find that out. Such an articulate , knowledgeable and decent man.. How I would love to hear his take on the current state of affairs between Russia and Ukraine. But all I can say now is rip Mr Cohen.

I wish he was here too.

RIP。。

I also just learned that Mr. Cohen passed away. RIP .

Sir, we Americans have been ignorant and arrogant and I pray to God Almighty we don’t bring the entire thing to ashes.

@@NitwitMN i am not personally a believer, but just in case, please pray harder. Good thoughts from France.

some clips here, very relevant to what is happening now and both interconnected over such an expanse of time cohen in 2014 being prophetic about many things ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ROTwyP5no08.html jfk's peace speech, similarly warning of what is happening now, especially regarding the infantilism of international diplomacy (which cohen mentioned here) and how many powers would seek to bring the US and russia into direct conflct ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0fkKnfk4k40.html

Agreed. Mainstream journalist should be watching this video and others he did during this time.

Yes wasn't Steve Cohen just the best ..that man really No his subject ....I to was sad by his passing ..The world certainly could do with his wise words now , But I think if we went back into some of Mr Cohen's work ....I bet he was able predicted todays situation ....RIP

Another professor, John mearsheimer was spot on. He predicted the war and the Russia China relationship.

Horse crap. Apologists for illiberal autocrat. Cohen’s entire ‘scholarship’ and legacy is completely meaningless. He will go down as a weird apologist for a dictator

@@ermiasd2695 When you make an ad hominem attack it's very obvious how much hearing the truth hurts! I have and the world is learning a lot from men like Stephen Cohen, RIP.

Yeah, we need him now more than ever.

@@ThunderAppeal Absolutely

May Prof Cohen rest in peace. He was right about many topics. I wish he were still here.

They still haven't believed it.

some clips here, very relevant to what is happening now and both interconnected over such an expanse of time cohen in 2014 being prophetic about many things ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ROTwyP5no08.html jfk's peace speech, similarly warning of what is happening now, especially regarding the infantilism of international diplomacy (which cohen mentioned here) and how many powers would seek to bring the US and russia into direct conflct ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0fkKnfk4k40.html

Bull.

@@juliejensen7370 that’s your intelligent contribution?

@@darrinparkin718 Cohen? Bull!

My sentiments precisely.

@@juliejensen7370 You find it easy to listen to somebody like Rather blow smoke up your keister?

Such binary division is a cornerstone for state propaganda. It simplifies things eliminating the ability of critical thinking. So that population of the country could not criticize its own gvt's policies.

the binary framing is a frame where the critical public sphere is extremly over-politicised. with the effect that there is no space for questions or questioning decisions. everything is in a strict sense decided before the discussion or debate has begun. the aims and the ends are fixed - one side or another - friend or foe. a real democratic public sphere is starving without real critical inputs. and that's something the west has to be concerned about: democracy is dying with this overpolitizing bias-related media and public (atmo)sphere. it's not by chance that one of the boldest rightwing and nazi-supporting political thinkers in nazi-germany, carl schmitt, gave the best picture of what this dualistic/binary political attitude means: the open road for the then not only state aparatus' driven fascism. nowadays this road needs not at first a "machtergreifung" by a fascist party and then the acclamation. it just needs the seed of permanent politicised (friend or foe) discourses and the related identity politics which support that concsiously or unconsciously by the media... when & where it's too late for questioning the seed has rooted and its blossoms spreading -

Couldn't agree more. And later, often it's the enemy's enemy being armed, sacrificing your own peoples needs, becoming your adversary...

well said john, i often advise people to try using more than two neurons of their brain at a time to think beyond the binary "us verse them" mentality .. at a minimum the world is at least a 3 ring circus of the "us" tent, the "them" tent and "everyone else stuck in between" tent,,, some clips here, very relevant to perhaps help others wake up cohen in 2014 being prophetic about many things ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ROTwyP5no08.html jfk's peace speech, similarly warning of what is happening now, especially regarding the infantilism of international diplomacy (which cohen mentioned here) and how many powers would seek to bring the US and russia into direct conflct ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0fkKnfk4k40.html

You're right about the binary framing problem. However, sadly Stephen Cohen is doing just the same thing. He shows plenty of understanding for Trump, Putin and the Russian army, but none whatsoever for Hillary Clinton, Ukraine, Europe and NATO. Probably, because he wants to show some sympathy for one side, he feels he needs to brand the other side as the 'bad guys'. It would have been much better if he had studied the history of the conflict, to see where it came from, rather than putting all the blame on one side. I had expected better from a clever guy like Cohen.

Hear, Here.

I couldnt agree more

Now more relevant than when he was alive. I wish he were around now to challenge the narratives being thrown about regarding the Ukraine.

@@louishead4495 been thinking the same. Rewatched some of his talks, the depth of his knowledge puts all these buffoons talking nonsense to shame.

@@dpiano14 Buffoons they sure are. Wowsers is all I can say in response to the complete lack of debate on all this.

@@louishead4495 yes exactly, Greenwald is doing a decent job of pointing out the hypocrisy and one sidedness but that’s about it!

@@louishead4495 Unfortunately now we are through the looking glass. Who knows what is next

Yes a truly wonderful man. I was extremely upset when I heard of his passing. I so wish we had him today especially with what is going on in Ukraine

I have seen 3 interviews retrospectively

@@ronaldkulas5748 His death was a great loss

some clips here, very relevant to what is happening now and both interconnected over such an expanse of time cohen in 2014 being prophetic about many things ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ROTwyP5no08.html jfk's peace speech, similarly warning of what is happening now, especially regarding the infantilism of international diplomacy (which cohen mentioned here) and how many powers would seek to bring the US and russia into direct conflct ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0fkKnfk4k40.html

Cohen is not wise, because he fails to recognize the truth that Putin is a murderous, venal thug, and because Cohen's policy recommendations would lead to disasters if implemented.

@@johnmaxwell1750 Too bad you are one of those who can’t take time to listen to him.

@@thetipsymankey - I've listened to Cohen for many years. I recognize that Russia is a great civilization with a legitimate place in the world, but not as a corrupt, xenaphobic thugocracy. Russia under Putin is steadily steaming to decline. After disolution of the USSR what Russia needed most was to establish roots of real democracy and the rule of law. Russia might have been saved if after 1990 deliberate steps were taken to transition from authoritarian rule to a stable, Western-oriented free-market democracy. But both Yeltsin and Putin were disinterested in pursuing that vision under the rule of law. Russia now is in irreversible decline. It is vulnerable to a breakup which could involve civil war with parts of its territory devoured by greedy neighbors like China.

@@johnmaxwell1750 I’m sorry but you got it totally wrong friend. The whole thing is complex and complicated to explain really from Boris Yeltsin to Putin. But also , that’s not the point of Cohen. His point in every talk is: We cannot blame Russia for everything. That’s all. From the Georgian war to the Ukraine crisis. The west has its part. I’ve listened to the late Prof Cohen Carefully. All his Statements were too meant that the West has to be blamed as well. It’s not just Russia fault every time. When it comes to economy , growth prosperity fine it’s something else. But let’s Russian judge accordingly. Knowing the 1990s crisis and poverty in Russia, we can all talk because we haven’t lived there to see how horrible it was really ans How Putin has made Russia glorious. I don’t say that his regime or Putin is perfect. But we , westerners tend to just see from an eye.

@@thetipsymankey- The bottom line is that Russia must save itself. It was never the responsibility of the US or the West to save Russia after the USSR folded. It was ultimately the responsibility of the Russian people to stop Yeltsin, Putin and the oligarchs from stealing the country blind. The only real hope for Russia has been people like Magnitsky, Nemtsov, Kasparov, and Navalny, supported by a free press and by the Russian people. But the people gave Putin their allegiance and allowed him to get entrenched. Now there is little hope for Russia as long as Putin murders his critics, like Anna Politkovskaya, Magnitsky, and Sergei Yushenkov, and his political opponents like Nemtsov. Cohen always knew damn well this was happening but never adequately addressed it. As a devout leftist Cohen was more comfortable assigning blame to the US. Don't be like Cohen. Don't make excuses for Putin the murderer and Putin the thug. Given Putin's past behavior, there are legitimate reasons for the US to fear him as long as he controls weapons of mass destruction. Cohen's relentless efforts to deflect blame to the US and to the West for Russian misbehavior have always been ridiculous. Since the USSR breakup all Russia has needed to do to get along with the US and the West has been to establish democracy, the rule of law, and to respect for human rights. None of that yet exists in Russia today.

Crimea was officially transferred from Russia to Ukraine in 1954, in a decree signed by Khrushchev.

Kaliningrad is not part of Russia.

Nothing they said was terribly at odds with Cohen, and Cohen's views - while more responsibly presented than most anything you'll see in the media - are much more in line with Rather and Katrina than those that defend Trump. Questioning Trump's motives is not the same as hating him, and we've moved ourselves too far into that soft authoritarianism Cohen speaks of if that questioning is a problem for you. The U.S. pushing further into authoritarianism is the main concern of most that were/are opposed to Trump, and that concern isn't a partisan thing.

Trump Derangement Syndrome decimates common sense

@@tmad8816 it was ok to not just question Trump’s motives but falsely accuse, then impeach him of things he didn’t do while you give Bill Clinton and previous Democrat Presidents a pass for interfering in Russian/USSR elections? That is nothing more than the total hypocrisy that we’ve heard and seen for years from Democrats like yourself.

@@mirrorneurongirl Weird that it's the GOP that's in bed with authoritarians around the world (Orban, Putin, etc.) then. You watch any Tucker Carlson lately? Or any of the CPAC speeches from Hungary (even just the fact it was held there...)? I'm judging based on direct actions/quotes, and that's not media spin like I'm sure you'll claim. I'm far more concerned about the attack on our electoral system, of which the far right is clearly the biggest problem. And before you say sToP tHe StEaL, Trump has literally cried foul in every election he's been involved with, including primaries and ones he's won. No intelligent person would fall for that over and over again unless they were completely blinded by their bias.

@@tmad8816 as an outsider, I struggle to see how Trump can be viewed even remotely as an authoritarian figure. The guy tends to bark and yapp for sure, but look closer, he got blocked at every turn by Congress, by his own cabinet, by his party. Does it look like an image of authoritarianism to you? I might be tempted to agree with your take on their dislike of Trump, but to me their dislike is apparent and appears irrational. "Why hasn't Trump ever publicly bashed Putin", seriously? Maybe because that would be counterproductive and senseless? They're just being childish there.

Hey , US /deep state =Israel is as hostile to China as to Russia. --- www.globalresearch.ca/battle-ages-stop-eurasian-integration/5700890

Unless chaos and instability are exactly the goal aimed at :) And the US security and weapon manufacturing industry love that. They love inventing "enemies" to fight against ..and "allies" to sell weapons and gadgets to.

US hostilities is a curse for the whole planet. The Chinese least of all want to be faced with a Vicious racist jealous warmongering psychopathic triggerhappy nuclear power. The good relations with Russia is simply the result their customary rational pragmatism.

Good riddance to one of Putin's puppets

@@ccie4101 lol you are doing your self the danger of living your life as an ignorant fool!

Same here..

He had to share his bed that night with the creature who looks for the world like the singer in KISS without the greasepaint.

Yes, far too much pussy footing going on ....little wonder with Cohen's family tied up with the Council on Foreign Relations, his wife being a member of it.

@@rrozoff1 Actually, having Rather there was what screwed this up.....and it's pre Mueller Report too. Also, it's a book selling exercise, which will have what you want.....so read it. It may be a losing enterprise, since the normal american doesn't read, while the internet has democratised "ignorance"....and it's very sad to see anyone of supposed intellectual integrity to refer to what exists here as a "democracy" by any stretch.....because electing people who don't represent you, makes using the word a sick joke. Besides, the real power lies with the federal judiciary, and "the people" have absolutely no voice, or recourse in this branch, and never have.

How wrong you were.

I am an American. I care about ordinary Russians under Putin. See my comments here to Cosmoevents21st if you think I look at the world through.the prism of US politics.

@@johnmaxwell1750 I am sorry, you don't understand what I am talking about. Please don't take everything that's being said personally. Peace.

You're Totally correct

I'm Canadian, and remember being taught that in senior high school history class in the late 1970's.

Yep

Totally clueless

It has been so blatant it was pretty plain even to me as a layman. Professor Cohen is sorely missed. He would have been so valuable now

So Putin’s unjustified and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine was just what the ‘warmongers’ wanted? Fascinating.

That's what the Chinese say too - come and look for yourselves

HathawayRose US is not a sane state, it's a dog breakfast, anglo saxons have always been criminals, liars, killers, slavers & destroyers, look at history. Lack of education, exceptionalism being taught as god given, its a cesspit for the demented.

HathawayRose Not coke, but tap water

They are looking in the mirror and blaming Russia for all the bad they themselves did...

😂 Whatever you do….Don’t mention the WAR!!

Allowing the cleaning of the Kurds is a quest for peace?

His quest for what? What are you smoking?

@@chrish2629 He was never a hawk, except to black people, what has always been foremost on his mind was money. He wanted that hotel in Moscow.

'The quiet American'... A book for all times.

Showing your age... we used to be able to do that when RU-vid was first released.... I feel old lol

That says it all. All part of the Round Table Groups.

Thanks, I was really disappointed in her. Your post straightened me out.