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@NoName1462
@NoName1462 10 лет назад
The ghost boy's name is Matthias Lehner, if you rearrange the letters it says Arthas Menethil. It's most likely his humanity, not Yogg-Saron.
@Plusimurfriend
@Plusimurfriend 10 лет назад
but it was probably corrupted by yoggy.
@GeneralProfessor
@GeneralProfessor 10 лет назад
Unless Yogg Saron intentionally made his name into an anagram so that those who solved it thought they found the truth and in turn ignore the real mastermind behind it all! Oh my Goood, HL3 confirmed! Just joking, btw. ;p
@Caedus696
@Caedus696 10 лет назад
Might still have been helped along by yogg saron, he probably wasn't happy that the madness of the old gods did not touch the undead.
@catxborsuq1
@catxborsuq1 10 лет назад
***** I doubt the Lich King was manipulated by the Old Gods. Arthas would never let himself be somebody's tool. True, he served Ner'zhul for some time, but when he got everything what he wanted from him he aborbed him. During the figth with Yogg-Saron, when we see those visions in his brain, the Old God says: "He will learn: no king rules forever! Only death is eternal!" If it was manipulating Arthas, I doubt it would have wished him death. Also, notice that the Cataclysm, the return of Deathwing, the Old God's mightiest servant, happened almost right after the death of the Lich King (actually, in between those two there was also the War Against the Nightmare, which was also one of Old Gods plans). Seems to me that the Lich King posed a threat to them, and they waited until he was out of the picture. The Scourge used Saronite because they had learned how to, not because they were Yogg's servants. Later the Ashen Verdict also learns how to use it, don't they?
@B1aQQ
@B1aQQ 10 лет назад
***** The little ghost helps you destroy the heart and weaken the LK. Seems like something an imprisoned Old God would do.
@Dexieboi2013
@Dexieboi2013 8 лет назад
An act of ARTHAS?! HAVE YOU LOST YOUR ARTHAS, ARTHAS!?
@TheRogueminator
@TheRogueminator 8 лет назад
Have I? Lord Uther, by my right of succession and the sovereignthy of the crown, I hereby relieve you of your title and dispense your Paladins of service! You've just crossed a terrible threshold, Arthas...
@egobot13
@egobot13 8 лет назад
Have I? Arthas Arthas, by my Arthas of Arthas and the Arthas of the Arthas, I hereby relieve Arthas of your Arthas and dispense your Arthas of Arthas !
@bloodravenzx4438
@bloodravenzx4438 7 лет назад
DexterousCobra i knew arthas would never arthas me. I had to scroll down in the hopes of seeing arthas, arthas.
@moonrazor2039
@moonrazor2039 10 лет назад
You need to make more. Period. Even though I know the majority of these, they are still cool to see and probably other ppl might find it interesting. Continue it for the Orc campaign and the expansion!.
@agustindalessandro4073
@agustindalessandro4073 10 лет назад
And the custom campaign!
@wowviewer
@wowviewer 10 лет назад
Yeah, and it's pretty nice to see that the person is looking at all this and getting a ton of information on the previous games that's been implemented in WoW. It only shows that Crendor's true objective has been achieved: Having fun on WC3 and learning more about the lore.
@Mastho5
@Mastho5 10 лет назад
wow that part in lordaeron where you can hear the sounds from the cinematic in the actual game, that is sooo cool! I NEVER knew that xD, damn awesome vid crendor! Good idea :D!
@kopitarrules
@kopitarrules 10 лет назад
Back in Vanilla when the developers didn't know if WoW would sink or swim they put in a TON of neat Easter eggs like this JUST to amuse themselves and ultra lore nerds (like myself) For example www.wowwiki.com/Corrupted_Ashbringer JUST sayin' ......
@B1aQQ
@B1aQQ 10 лет назад
kopitarrules How is a Corrupted Ashbringer an easter egg? It wasn't even in Warcraft before WoW. It's a legit item that has it's place in the lore.
@kopitarrules
@kopitarrules 10 лет назад
BlaQ Ya it was actually referenced outside of WoW before it was ever introduced in game. The whole story of mograine, the ashbringer and the founding of the scarlet crusade was made BEFORE it was put into WoW in a graphic novel. That's the Easter egg part I was referring to. No doubt it is a legit item that has it's place in lore, don't get me wrong I wasn't trying to suggest it wasn't. I merely meant the whole idea of players being able to loot it was a bit of a wink to the lore, as for a loooooooooooong time players thought they would somehow be able to purify it 9despite everything the Devs said to the contrary that they had put it in as kind of a joke and a nod to outside lore) and wield an uncorrupted ashbringer. It did in fact cause so much confusion in the player base it was removed. (rather than being translated into an equivalent item for wrath when naxx was relaunched).
@WDrSharkon
@WDrSharkon 10 лет назад
You forgot to visit the Dalaran crater in Hillsbrad! If you do, there's a hill nearby where you can find the magic circle Archimonde drew when he destroyed the city at the end of the Undead campaign.
@mirrormagic6584
@mirrormagic6584 10 лет назад
Holy crap, is there? I need to go find that for myself now...
@Pamgin
@Pamgin 10 лет назад
I can't find it, could you upload a screenshot or be more descriptive of where it is?
@Soundslikematt
@Soundslikematt 10 лет назад
Pamgin It's along the water south of Undercity. It's a huge ball of energy, really hard to miss.
@Jonereator2
@Jonereator2 10 лет назад
Girdlepoo He meant the circle that Archimonde made when he destroyed the city.
@zzDashyx
@zzDashyx 10 лет назад
Where is this circle???????
@RobiePAX
@RobiePAX 10 лет назад
8:50 - Crendor what are you talking about? Arthas defeated Illidan and left him to die outside the Icecrown Citadel, who was later saved by the Kael'thas and Vashj and left to hide in Outlands. Also pretty neat video. But I feel the title is a bit misleading. It's specifically Arthas story from War 3 in WoW, nothing else. If you want to relate entire War3 events in WoW you would have to make 1-2 hour long video... On the side note it amazes me how such a Warcraft enthusiast as yourself only now after 14 years learned about War3 Lore. Don't relate us into being similar Crendor, you are one of the kind :P
@annoyedhuman42
@annoyedhuman42 9 лет назад
Moises Aguirre No it is not, only 25% of warcraft 3 the frozen throne is about arthas and his undead.
@bobbybiggerstaff7269
@bobbybiggerstaff7269 9 лет назад
Reading the books, then being able to visit those places in wow is amazing too.
@crazy_acid77
@crazy_acid77 10 лет назад
As a Warcraft lore lover whose been a fan of the story for years and years now, especially the Sin'dorei, I very much knew Dar'khan Drathir was the traitor of Quel'Thalas. He was a power hungry elven magister in the Convocation of Silvermoon (advisers to King Anasterian) that succumed to the whispers of the Lich King in search of power. He disabled one of the elven runestones that protected Quel'Thalas to allow Arthas through the kingdom.
@LeonusStawalker
@LeonusStawalker 10 лет назад
Probably obvious, but if you haven't noticed, a HUGE amount of buildings in WoW are big versions of the buildings in WC3. Some of the most obvious are the orc watchtowers dotted around horde territory, and the hundreds of different human barracks you need to go through for various quests.
@SpaceHamsterGames
@SpaceHamsterGames 10 лет назад
Man a lot of these I didn't know actually either, that's cool! So much time playing WoW back in the day too.
@idkwmytuni
@idkwmytuni 3 года назад
6 y/o comment I know- What's funny is I just got into WoW (for the first time) within the last week -largely because I watched your easter egg video for like the 12th time and I wanted to see some of them in person. Since then I've been hopping around WC RU-vid only to find you here haha
@JNH-fl6rg
@JNH-fl6rg 8 лет назад
I love these little things, the little throwbacks, lore Easter eggs, and everything like that. It just shows how dedicated the team can be, how they care for the story and immersion and whatnot. Sure, not much of that recently, but still, like, having that throwback of that track that plays at the end of the WoD glue screen song was pretty badass, even if the expansion itself wasn't for the most part :P
@crendor
@crendor 10 лет назад
Warcraft III in World of Warcraft
@0peanutman0
@0peanutman0 10 лет назад
EMURGURD 1st! HI CRENDOR
@RevenTH
@RevenTH 10 лет назад
Ow maaaan, this video is going to be soo goood! Good job Crendor! x)
@Dragonofallgames
@Dragonofallgames 10 лет назад
this seems pointless... top ten...
@kopitarrules
@kopitarrules 10 лет назад
Don't forget when you do part 2 of this video to start right where you left off in ashenvale. The first reference should be the Warsong lumber camp which you JUST finished building with Grom. ;)
@0xDigby
@0xDigby 10 лет назад
Crendor this was really cool to watch, I'd be happy to see more lore videos as you progress through warcraft 3 / frozen throne
@ChristmasCrustacean1
@ChristmasCrustacean1 10 лет назад
Pamela Redpath is still one of the saddest quests if not the saddest quest in the game.
@saintemz4648
@saintemz4648 10 лет назад
one of my favourite questlines for sure, especially back when it used to be a 5 man group quest.
@loljustice31
@loljustice31 10 лет назад
You're right, though I think possibly the saddest is "Have you seen my dog....? Where is that dog...." Especially if you know the voice actor's story....
@ChristmasCrustacean1
@ChristmasCrustacean1 10 лет назад
Oh the original Sven Yorgen/Jitters quest line from Vanilla was also a good one. I was so mad that Blizzard retconned it and tacked on the Worgen storyline.
@darthvader822
@darthvader822 10 лет назад
It is not so sad anymore as they tagged on a happy ending. In vanilla, they just left it hanging with pamela apparently doomed to wander through the ruins alone for all eternity. No resolution. It was depressing to say the least.
@loljustice31
@loljustice31 10 лет назад
darth vader oh is that so? What's the new happy ending?
@szakiricky
@szakiricky 8 лет назад
0:25 if you look closely at the bottom right corner, you can see the Huntard in it's natural habitat. Rushing in head first, into a bunch of melees. Nice move, champ!
@hskyforger
@hskyforger 8 лет назад
You sir have some eagle eye and bioknowledgy. Have a like
@ZulatobariGreatforge
@ZulatobariGreatforge 10 лет назад
Also, Arthas in lore had 3 main captains in Northrend; all 3 became DKs. 1 of them is the captain in WC3, the one u get REALLY early on.
@Drakymarky
@Drakymarky 10 лет назад
and you can fight 2 of them in the Halls of Reflection.
@Gergo049
@Gergo049 10 лет назад
but they had no name in wc3
@MyTirion
@MyTirion 10 лет назад
Gergo049 Not ingame, but storywise it was Thaussarian, Falric & Marwynn,
@ZulatobariGreatforge
@ZulatobariGreatforge 10 лет назад
Thank you for the names. Thuassarian has a book and alot of ingame apperances. Falric and Marwynn are dungeon bosses. Falric was the captain from the very beginning of the Human Campaign to the end. Falric and Marwynn are the 2 "escorts" of Arthas during the Cinematic
@Andromedes
@Andromedes 10 лет назад
My Tirion and Duncan, dont you mean Thassarian?
@Tofuey
@Tofuey 2 года назад
Never played WOW but I have found myself watching all these lore videos about wow none stop...
@barnesdrb
@barnesdrb 10 лет назад
Make more of these.
@coryray14
@coryray14 9 лет назад
" This entire Arthas MUST BE PURGED. " - Why I can't do that instance without cracking up anymore.
@JNH-fl6rg
@JNH-fl6rg 8 лет назад
What?! How could you even CONSIDER that? There's got to be some other Arthas!
@Zeotoph
@Zeotoph 10 лет назад
Had no idea about the undercity ambiance thing, that's really cool
@Feraligono
@Feraligono 10 лет назад
It was really great for those of us who started playing WoW in the old days after finishing Warcraft III. Seeing all of these connections was a wonderful experience - and I feel that it is something that the more recent expansions sorely lacked.
@DdayArt
@DdayArt 10 лет назад
Crendor, god damn it you're awesome, but how could you have played WoW for so long and not know shit about it?
@3Hotdawg3
@3Hotdawg3 10 лет назад
Cuz he's Crendog
@ThegodFatouir
@ThegodFatouir 10 лет назад
Same thing on my mind
@Chronochrome
@Chronochrome 10 лет назад
Yeah, considering it's been his job for several years now, you think he would have tried to learn more about it a long time ago lol.
@Chronochrome
@Chronochrome 10 лет назад
SangoProductions21 I'm just saying, if your job involves a certain product, it pays to know more about that product because you can create more in-depth content. Now he can make more interesting machinima because he can base the plot of them around the lore (if he wants) and insert lore-related jokes and stuff.
@OstroGothic
@OstroGothic 10 лет назад
You'd be surprised how many players know nothing about the lore. A lot of people just play for raiding and for friends, not paying attention to lore at all
@sarahtolkien
@sarahtolkien 8 лет назад
I'm currently watching your series on doing all of Warcraft III. I'm only on Episode 8, but I'm a huge lore nerd (who hasn't played through any of the earlier Warcraft games) and you're making a genre of game that I wouldn't enjoy, enjoyable to watch.
@ChrononumberXIII
@ChrononumberXIII 10 лет назад
>Cinematic in the background Holy shit that's cool.
@philippeblais8594
@philippeblais8594 5 лет назад
4:25 fun fact, we actually pick up Arthas' hammer and use it to create Shadowmourne to face the lich king. (Shadowmourne being a legendary.) And when we try to get it, the lich king tries to stop us
@k01dsv
@k01dsv 10 лет назад
Anderhal isn't being rebuilt (: It's been taken over by Sylvanas! That is why you should have done this zone for your lvling, it is probably THE coolest quest line in the game :D
@werewolfgirl132
@werewolfgirl132 10 лет назад
Another fun thing about Lorderan the two guards behind Arthas int he cenematic are Falric and Marwyn you fight in the last Wrath dungeon
@ejhc9628
@ejhc9628 9 лет назад
This entire Arthas must be purged, how can you even Arthas that Arthas?
@danielroberts2421
@danielroberts2421 8 лет назад
lol
@mochoowo
@mochoowo 8 лет назад
+BenersantheAssassin You are not my Arthas yet, Arthas, nor would i obey that Arthas even if you were Arthas.
@MissSatsuji
@MissSatsuji 8 лет назад
+lolimancer Nuko Okay I've read that joke twice in different videos now. Can someone explain? I don't get it. *feelin' dumb*
@ejhc9628
@ejhc9628 8 лет назад
MissSatsuji If u see the video then you will come to understand, but o well it says: This entire city must be purged, how can you even consider that Arthas.
@EllynoreMoonwood
@EllynoreMoonwood 10 лет назад
Make a sequel for this. You did well describing all these details that many players didn't know about concerning the connections of WC3 and WoW. Well done!
@Thromash
@Thromash 10 лет назад
Good video. I always thought the little ghost boy was the image of Arthas' humanity which is talked about in the books with the scene of Arthas on the throne still in cased in ice with Ner'Zhul whispering in his ear and the little boy on the other side. His name is an anagram for Arthas Menethil and they boy leads you to his heart so that you can try use it against Lich King Arthas. But that is just how I always saw it.
@Thromash
@Thromash 10 лет назад
In saying this, if you do another video for this Crendor the quest-line with the boy basically shows a lot of lore for Arthas betraying his men and his fight against Illidan.
@kopitarrules
@kopitarrules 10 лет назад
Thromash There are a TON of quest lines like that in wrath. The one to reclaim the forgotten shore, the one to witness how Arthas claimed frostmourne (where we learn that Muradin is still alive) etc etc. Lots of great stuff to cover. PS. You are quite correct about the little boy. In the novel Arthas: Rise of the Lich King it is almost expressly stated that the little boy is Arthas' human side. (The book IS considered cannon btw) It is by removing his heart that Arthas slays his humanity (He then turns around and slays Ner'zuhl taking full control of himself. I believe he even says something like "now there is no more We, only I Arthas." Which fits nicely with Warcraft 3 as when he is death knight Arthas one of his more common emotes is " No one, orders ME around.")
@Thromash
@Thromash 10 лет назад
kopitarrules Yep, that was the scene I was thinking of. These are some of the many reasons why I loved Wrath. Mostly though because Lich King Arthas was my favorite character just above Illidan.
@kopitarrules
@kopitarrules 10 лет назад
Thromash Agreed. Arthas is probably my number one favvourite lore character in Warcraft. Followed closely by Kael'thas. I just love the idea of the tragic hero who, despite having the best intentions, finds themselves on a path of destruction. The fact that we have yet to see either of those two redeemed in a storyline (in the same way blizzard redeemed Medivh) is still a great disappointment to me. Oh well future expansions of WoW perhaps? lol
@mrbravo96rl
@mrbravo96rl 10 лет назад
As a massive lore nut, I humbly request MOARRRR, give us more Crendude!
@Sweetfunkyjesus
@Sweetfunkyjesus 8 лет назад
I wonder if Andorhal will end up being a PvP area in the future.
@felix6634
@felix6634 10 лет назад
dude that was pretty awesome, you should really do more of those, really enjoyed this.
@lychenthrope
@lychenthrope 9 лет назад
Undercity used to scare me. Now it scares me more. ●︿●
@DJake1992
@DJake1992 10 лет назад
i played w3 before wow and thats why i loved wow so much. the nostalgia while walking through all these places and quests is priceless
@DraphEnjoyer
@DraphEnjoyer 10 лет назад
I you don't kneel every time you walk past Uther's tomb, regardless of faction, then may the light have mercy upon you.
@martinsgakke
@martinsgakke 10 лет назад
I enter and spit on his dirty tomb =P But I do kneel at the site where Grom slew Mannoroth. A true hero of all orcs, even if Blizzard has forgotten what he is.
@svrgvlo43
@svrgvlo43 6 лет назад
Where is this place?
@roflharris6835
@roflharris6835 10 лет назад
I love the fact that Crendor is picking up on all this stuff, fleshes the game out so much more. I remember seeing a lot of these places when I started in vanilla after finishing warcraft 3 and i was amazed haha
@heroicwraith150
@heroicwraith150 10 лет назад
goddamit crendor, stratholme isnt burning anymore, it was taken back by the silver hand (or whatever their name is, the paladin dudes) back in vanilla, we helped them, blizz is just too lazy to actually change this in game
@parbuono7
@parbuono7 10 лет назад
Dude this just remind me the fact that the entrance of the dark portal in Outland is still sieged by demons since 2006
@NickRM99
@NickRM99 10 лет назад
Gaspare If it wasn't still being attacked by demons, there'd be no reason to even go to Outland.
@parbuono7
@parbuono7 10 лет назад
Phijkchu_arbok Trust me for me there is no more reason to go to the Outland
@NickRM99
@NickRM99 10 лет назад
Gaspare When you're level 60 there is.
@heroicwraith150
@heroicwraith150 10 лет назад
Phijkchu_arbok *58
@Reickon
@Reickon 10 лет назад
the warcraft 3 content win WoW is basically what kept me playing WoW. When the Cataclysm hit I didn't play much and quit after that, but before that I was really happy with the old content :). Stratholme where the massacre occured, Dragonblight where Arthas's fall was sealed, Quel'thalas where the Scourge marched, Ashenvale where Mannoroth's broken blade still foats in mid air, the dark portal in Blasted lands, Karazhan (still favourite raid), Felwood where Illidan fought demon's and became one, and of course Icecrown Citadel with the Lich King himself where I achieved my highest raiding status (25 heroic Sindragosa downed before nerf). Those were the days. Really loved that content and was really invested in that story. But now the story has changed drastically :( I thought WoW's future would be us taking the fight to the demons themselves, may be even reaching to their homeworld. Instead we got pandas and time traveling... I don't blame Blizzard for chosing this if this is what makes them more money. Money is God and it ensures Blizzard's future. But I can't help but feel disappointed - disappointed enough to not play it any more. Nevertheless, I still love the old content and love it when others (like yourself Crendor) appreciate that content so I would wholeheartedly love it if you make more videos like this. There is definitely enough content to warrant a lengthy series :)
@hafssdaasd896
@hafssdaasd896 10 лет назад
I kinda agree with you even tho i played Cataclysm and enjoyed it if not bcs of lore then bcs of how raids and dungeons were a lot more difficult than in wotlk.I have never played pandarian nor the wod so i cant say anything bad about them it just seems they are stretching the story so the one of the the most famous MMORPG game doesn't end so quickly.And they thought that ppl will be interested in the wod and seeing the Draenor before it got destroyed.I mean they cant be doing this forever but still.They still have a lot possibilities for next expansions like idk return of the LK, for example i saw in one WoW book a sentence like this "LK was defeated and his place took Bolvar Foredragon where he sits on the frozen throne and watches over scourge , for now..." or maybe expansion where you fight another old god?There are a lot of possibilities and there is one quite interesting.Maybe you have heard already for the relations of the old gods to some book called Cthulhu Mythos where there are creatures similar to old gods.When u look to the names Chtulhu=C'thun ,Yog-Sothoth=Yogg-Saron and if u read it there is more of them and one is really interesting to us Azathot.So maybe Azathot=Azeroth?Is the last old god Azeroth itself who lies deep into world?Who knows.Ofc there are demons and sargeras but will end it here ,my comment is way 2 long.
@Vandalia1998
@Vandalia1998 10 лет назад
***** even though you are way past the level for ANDORHAL in the Western Plague Lands in your wow leving lets play, you should totally check it out, the quests there are awesome. It has a thrown back from the DK's starting zone, and you get to see a three way fight and find out what happened to the town all these years later.
@lamontstewart735
@lamontstewart735 10 лет назад
In a three way battle between 3 faction only one will come up with the Gold. Tripple Threat Rules ***** is the guest Refere
@Vrikrar
@Vrikrar 10 лет назад
Something else worth looking into possibly, is that the two guards from the Terenas cinematic now guard frostmourne's pedestal inside Ice Crown Citadel, The Halls of Reflection. Also if you quest at Fordragon hold you can eventually get to a dwarf who gives you quests to talk to the ghosts on the Forgotten Shore, and then see a couple cinematics from that WC3 mission WoW-ized.
@grantmessler3805
@grantmessler3805 10 лет назад
wait, didnt illidan lose to arthas outside icecrown?
@grantmessler3805
@grantmessler3805 10 лет назад
or was it more of a "i let him live, but shouldn't have" deal?
@MrGeode78
@MrGeode78 10 лет назад
Grant Messler Arthas defeated Illidan, who he thought would die from the wounds of the battle. Arthas rushed to the Icecrown Spire, though, and Illidan managed to get away.
@theuselessknight6021
@theuselessknight6021 10 лет назад
The Zenox I don't really understand why did Kil'jaeden let Illidan live after this failure. Kil'jaeden is known for his forgiveness for failing agents, but Illidan simply ran away to Karabor, why didn't they rip him apart like Ner'zhul?
@LordMoonshadowGaGa
@LordMoonshadowGaGa 10 лет назад
TheUselessKnight Illidan still had use.
@catxborsuq1
@catxborsuq1 10 лет назад
TheUselessKnight um... didn't you notice the armies of demons of Burning Legion around Outland when you played Burning Crusade? They were there for Illidan. Kil'jaedan sent them after him. He cannot just pop himself in his full power into another world. That cutscene at the end of blood elves campaing where Kil'jaedan speaks to him was most likely a projection rather than the real him. As for Ner'zhul, he was caught while using a portal, one of many he had opened, without controling where they led. Kil'jaedan used his magic and telepathic to subtly led him to him rather than anywhere else in the universe.
@HaydenRoberts08
@HaydenRoberts08 10 лет назад
Been playing WoW for 4 year now, and have watched HuskStarcraft's W3 playthrough but I never knew any of these connections! Thank you so much for this, was amazingly informative and has made me more interested in even more connections.
@emchartreuse
@emchartreuse 10 лет назад
I think Warcraft's story must be the sprawliest (it's a word cuz I said so, lol) and most complicated of any game world. It's so much more complicated than The Elder Scrolls, for instance. Can anyone think of another game world that requires the player to read a stack of novels to understand it? No one should be surprised that many players don't know the lore. I've been learning a lot watching this play through series. Thanks Crendor!
@Soladrin
@Soladrin 10 лет назад
Ever heard of a little thing called Warhammer 40k? :P Warcraft ain't got shit on that amount of lore.
@gajbooks
@gajbooks 10 лет назад
The overall story from the Warcraft RTS games and the first few expansions of WoW are okay, but it's getting kind of silly with pandas and stuff.
@emchartreuse
@emchartreuse 10 лет назад
Soladrin I should have said video game. I've played table top and LARP games that had massive worlds with massive gaming books requiring study. But can you think of an original video game not based on a pre-existing franchise like Star Wars or Lord of the Rings? I think the best comparison to WoW is TES, they have a lot in common, but WoW's lore is much more complicated.
@Zei33
@Zei33 10 лет назад
Well the thing is, Warcraft has been built over 20 years with a fully fleshed out MMO world, which explores nearly every nook and cranny. No other game has that, the elder scrolls online doesn't really explore the world as thoroughly as WoW explores its world. Maybe in a few years we could say the same about TES but honestly, there aren't really any strong characters in that universe.
@emchartreuse
@emchartreuse 10 лет назад
Zei33 Not the Elder Scrolls Online (ESO), The Elder Scrolls (TES) series of video games (the franchise). Both Blizzard and Bethesda released their first iteration in 1994; Bliz with "Orcs and Humans" and Beth with "Arena". Both franchises have been releasing expansions on the same universe/lore at more or less the same pace ever since. Both Azeroth and Nirn have a complicated pantheon of creator "gods" and destroyer "gods". An interesting difference is that Blizzard tells us what is lore cannon, while the lore of TES is told through in game books written by unreliable sources with various points of views and agendas. You would think that would make TES more difficult to piece together but it's actually a pretty simple world mostly based in race/faction politics. Blizzard and Bethesda are really THE pioneers of deep lore in video games. They both were inspired by D&D to bring RPG storytelling to life in a video game environment. And as far as I can tell, nobody has ever done it better than Blizzard and Bethesda (ESO is incidental, it's really a spin off game made by a different company and technically doesn't have to be cannon to TES).
@Noidrax
@Noidrax 8 лет назад
Not sure anyone is gonna see this, but the ghost boys name is Matthias Lehner which is an anagram of Arthas Menethil. He gives a quest chain that walks you through Arathas's actions leading up to and through his fight with Illidan. This includes you playing as Arthas as you turn your loyal soldiers into the first scourge knights, the raising of Sindragosa, and the fight with Illidan. Matthias is the little remaining humanity Arthas had till he discarded his heart. The quest chain ends with Tirion Fordring destroying the heart and the player, he, and the group he brought fleeing through a portal form a very hurt and very angry Lich King.
@martinivanov1319
@martinivanov1319 8 лет назад
is there a video of this quest line ?
@princeveggie
@princeveggie 10 лет назад
Crendawg! I have to say you missed a part of the Orc Campaign. In the test version of Warcraft was a 3 Chapter Campaign of the Orc Journey between the 2 Campaigns from the main story. You will find Sen'jin and the Darkspear trolls there. To play this Campaign go Singleplayer>Custom Campaign. Vote this up if you want him to play how the Trolls come to the Horde!
@WuxianTec
@WuxianTec 10 лет назад
These are the reasons why I play WoW. Please make more of these, everyone might have missed a few of these. And please show people a clip of the Thrall and Grom against Mannoroth fight and the place they fought in WoW, which is in the southeast of Ashenvale.
@ShinigamiSamaH
@ShinigamiSamaH 9 лет назад
Saying the lore have 'ties' for WoW with Warcraft (I, II, III) isn't correct. WoW essentially is the re-telling and continuation of the franchise as a whole. I do hope they would make Warcraft IV though. WoW is fine sure, but I want my RTS campaign goodness back. Imagine RTS Warcraft with StarCraft II graphic, that would be sick.
@seangannon6005
@seangannon6005 8 лет назад
there making a warcraft 3 mod for starcraft that is currently in beta
@MrTauren1996
@MrTauren1996 10 лет назад
It's awesome to see you get really invested into the lore of the game. I grew up with Warcraft as an RTS and had my fun with WoW and it's interesting seeing you work everything from the future to the past. I'd love to see you make more content like this and I'm REALLY looking forward to you reading Lord of The Clans. I hope you eventually go back and play Warcraft II or even Warcraft I but I'm not sure how many would watch that.... I know I would though.
@GokuTheHusky
@GokuTheHusky 8 лет назад
The warcraft series just felt more brutal back then. Now it just seems like childish. Where no one basically dies. We need exploding sheep in WoW lol,
@jepeman
@jepeman 10 лет назад
This was a nice bit of lore, please do continue these as you continue playing through Warcraft 3.
@Jeffmetal42
@Jeffmetal42 10 лет назад
Cool video, I enjoyed it. Question time, I know WC3 set up a lot of stuff for WoW, so does that mean things in WC1 and 2 are also locations that can be found in WoW? Its been ages since I've played the first 2 and only just recently (bout 3-4 months ago on and off) started playing WoW. I know it might seem like a dumb question, the only reason I ask is WC1&2 were made (what I assume) WAY before WoW was even a spark of an idea to Blizz. Seems like post 2 and pre 3 they might have though about expanding it into a full blown world that WoW became.
@Coldrain-w5b
@Coldrain-w5b 10 лет назад
It all depends on the locations, a large portion of lore areas stated in games, books etc. aren't currently available in WoW but are said to be in future. Such as Kul Tiras
@Jeffmetal42
@Jeffmetal42 10 лет назад
David Simmons was just currious how far back they went with it. Hell, it's been so long since I played the first 2 (even 3 for that matter, but I recently got it again to run through when I have time) that I dont really recall the story for the first 2. Haven't gotten around to reading any of the novels but I do have Arthas's book just in case (once again) I ever get enough free time to read it. Life's too short, too much to see, do, play, read, etc before we go bye bye. Maybe one day.
@Jeffmetal42
@Jeffmetal42 10 лет назад
David Simmons really would like to see another traditional Warcraft RTS again one day. I'm sure it would be tricky to do with WoW constantly going on and expanding the world. A man can dream I suppose.
@Caedus696
@Caedus696 10 лет назад
Most of the Warcraft 1 and 2 story is in and around Lordaeron as well. When the orcs invaded they took stormwind and burned it to the ground, making young varian and those of the population that luthor could save flee by boat to lordaeron. Then there is the beyond the dark portal stuff where nur'zhul attempts to open more portals from outland using relics of power from azeroth so we invade outland and blow up the portal in our attempt to stop him (which is why the alliance has the keep in hellfire at the beginning of BC, that is the same base camp they first set up)
@Jeffmetal42
@Jeffmetal42 10 лет назад
Thanks for the replies so far, info is much appreciated. Maybe one of these days/months/years I'll get caught up. Story in RPGs is what turned me on to them originally back in the day. Most my friends could never grasp why I enjoyed playing them so much. Needless to say they weren't big on reading so they stuck with other genres. My dad used to joke with me about how I was always playing "walking games" cause thats all he ever saw me doing.
@blodstainer
@blodstainer 10 лет назад
I see Crendor making runs through Mount Hyjal & Battle for Mount Hyjal Raid for future episodes of this series :D
@01trixor
@01trixor 10 лет назад
It's nice to see crendor finally learning and enjoying the important lore that he misses all these years
@Jinballify
@Jinballify 10 лет назад
Man, the amount of treats you will find of lore-relevance in the last two campaigns and especially the Frozen Throne... Promise, you gonna love it! And personally I always enjoyed the orc Kalimdor campaign the best, the story is both deep and heartwarming, and I can't recall single bad mission in that campaign game play wise either.
@sobocager
@sobocager 10 лет назад
MORE!!!
@Unherz
@Unherz 10 лет назад
Since I never played WoW, to see these things is just awesome. If i could watch WoW like a movie, i would be interested in it, as an MMO it just has no charm to me. So, please, keep these videos up, I love them and they immerse me deeper into the lore of the whole Warcraft universe.
@MrFantocan
@MrFantocan 9 лет назад
Lies, Terenas can not be in that tomb, Terenas was cremated, and Uther had his ashes in a magic urn Arthas got the urn to put Kelthuzad remains, and he droped his father ashes on the floor, no way someone gathered the ashes from the grass near Uther's body.
@Botar48
@Botar48 8 лет назад
Well in the book they didn't said what happened to other paladins who was in king's funreal with Uther. Maybe they picked up the ashes with their helmets and runned back to ruins of capital fought the undead and buried them there.
@OnlineSarcasmFails
@OnlineSarcasmFails 10 лет назад
Thank you for making this. Even though I only recently played through WCIII for the first time, I didn't pick up on all the town/city names which are now that little bit more relevant to me. I would love more videos like this =D!
@Deehvad
@Deehvad 8 лет назад
WoW lore used to be so fucking epic. What the hell happened?
@sucraloss
@sucraloss 8 лет назад
+Deehvad Blizz ran out of ideas after LK
@jakeferretti2276
@jakeferretti2276 8 лет назад
+Craziguy33 Deathwing has been around since pre-WoW
@zbynek.gazdik
@zbynek.gazdik 8 лет назад
+Craziguy33 Well I'd come up with tons of cooler ideas than pandas and fucking time traveling. I mean, the pandaren were there since Warcraft III but dedicating a whole expansion to them? Come on, Blizzard, they could have just been a minor race like the Tuskarr. Cataclysm wasn't really that bad story-wise, it followed the Old Gods theme from Wrath but they could have made the connection between the two expansions a bit stronger. What I think would be cool after Cataclysm is a naga expansion with Queen Azshara, N'zoth and a small island of Pandaria. Also, shoulders resembling a living parrot would be cool but that's besides the point.
@Gringrah98
@Gringrah98 8 лет назад
+Deehvad Nothing. Not finding nowadays lore epic doesn't mean everyone should feel and think the same. Don't you realise that maybe someone enjoys post-wotlk lore? Nop because your opinion is everything that matters. Whatever.
@buzzedup8299
@buzzedup8299 8 лет назад
+Deehvad Metzen happened
@Ellthom
@Ellthom 10 лет назад
One of the reasons I brought WoW back in 2005 was because I wanted to see all those places I knew from the Warcraft RTS games. I was pretty sweet. Nice video Crendor, pretty much summing up one of the reasons I love WoW
@stenchinator
@stenchinator 10 лет назад
How cool would it be if they made WC4 (and its expansions) to bridge the gaps in WoW. For example, you could play Garrosh as he escapes prison and raises up an army in an alternate universe to fight Mannoroth. It would be fun to play as the bad guys in Warcraft lore again.
@supaonyxian
@supaonyxian 10 лет назад
sadly it seems aslong as wow exists the warcraft universe will be in wow only, and it might even die with wow whenever that happens
@Hemsk
@Hemsk 10 лет назад
Let it go bro. There'll be no Wc4. Let it go.
@Stabbzki
@Stabbzki 10 лет назад
Google-should-have-never-bought-RU-vid There was an announcement a few years ago that a high up Blizzard employee claimed they would start work on WC4 when they had finished with all content for Starcraft 2
@Hemsk
@Hemsk 10 лет назад
MyShauno Hmm. I highly doubt that. From everything I've heard. They wouldn't want to stop support WoW to be able to release Wc4. And where would Wc4 even take place, after Wc3? After the latest expansion in wow? It's going to piss off people, either way they do it. I think the boat has sailed, and that anything lore-wise they intend or might have intended for Wc4 is going into WoW instead.
@kenllacer
@kenllacer 10 лет назад
I'm glad you're making these supplementary vids for wc3. Not only is it a feel good for nostalgia but a great connection to present day WoW.
@ZigZargero
@ZigZargero 10 лет назад
I love these references being pointed out. because i dont really have the strength or patience to go back in WoW and find them myself anymore. Continue making WC videos, they are quite awesome! Maybe go back and do the previous warcraft games, as I havn't been able to get my hands on them myself and it would be really good to get the lore in, especially now that Warlords of Draenor is coming (WC2 and its expansion especially) Thanks for the great video, Crendawg :)
@luckyeddie44
@luckyeddie44 10 лет назад
I enjoyed this, would quite happily watch further videos on this subject.
@snicklefritz1118
@snicklefritz1118 10 лет назад
Would love a follow up of these when you finish Warcraft!! This is one of my favorite videos on the channel right now :D
@Mosan13
@Mosan13 10 лет назад
I knew about the bells from the cinematic being played in the Undercity, I didn't know that you could hear Arthas and Terenas speaking there though. Also, I like that Terenas's tomb is not ruined. It seems the Forsaken have some respect for him.
@Midaspl
@Midaspl 10 лет назад
After you end orc's campaign - go visit Mannoroth's and Hellscream's tomb in Ashenvale (if it is still there, haven't played after cata revamp much). Also back in Undercity, when you were walking that path as paladin with sense undead turned on, you could see ghosts of people on the walls who were throwing those petals back then. Unfourtunatelly it was removed in cata.
@radiationwow
@radiationwow 10 лет назад
I did not expect to get new info from this video D: well I guess you can always learn something new. Keep em goin crendor
@Willie_Pete_Was_Here
@Willie_Pete_Was_Here 10 лет назад
I think the quest at Frostmourne is where you witness Arthas and Muradin find Frostmourne and then Arthas takes it and knocks Muradin out
@BradleyVanTreese
@BradleyVanTreese 10 лет назад
I really enjoyed this, Crendor. Please make more of this type of lore video. Super interesting, thank you!
@Disasterpiec1
@Disasterpiec1 10 лет назад
not sure if it has been mentioned, but the cave where Frostmourne WAS, is where you start the quest for Shadowmourne
@andrastei
@andrastei 10 лет назад
Make more please! This is so interesting and I love visiting these places after watching! :)
@theuselessknight6021
@theuselessknight6021 10 лет назад
Awesome video, but there's a part you left unnoticed: Muradin actually survived, the piece of ice that struck him when Frostmourne was freed didn't kill him, but damaged his brain, so he forgot who he was. He appears in Wrath of the Lich King expansion and is now a leader of the Bronzebeard clan and resides in Ironforge.
@carlfish
@carlfish 10 лет назад
I vaguely remember that on the beach in Northrend where Arthas had the ships burned, there's either a repeating event or a quest where you get to see the cut scene from that mission re-enacted by ghosts.
@Oddchild590
@Oddchild590 10 лет назад
Being someone who also did not play Warcraft 3, this video is so interesting to learn about the lore and the landmarks in Wow from Warcraft 3. Please make more :D
@TheBrosinInk
@TheBrosinInk 10 лет назад
This is why I played WoW in the first place. I grew up with the original Warcraft and Warcraft III, so I got a thrill out of seeing these places. Blizzard knows how to reward lore people. :D
@Klaisak
@Klaisak 10 лет назад
This is so cool! Please do continue after you finish WIII and then Frozen Throne! I would definitelly like to see more!
@lornetc
@lornetc 10 лет назад
Actually the sun well was reignited by the Prophet Velen using the core of the naaru , Muru after Kil'jaden is defeated in the sunwell raid. As a result the well is now a fount of the Holy light, not just arcane magic as it once was.
@1Kapuchu100
@1Kapuchu100 10 лет назад
Woah... that whole "Succeeding you, father" part blew my mind o_o I never knew that! AWESOME!
@Resonator619
@Resonator619 10 лет назад
Awesome Vid Crendor, please make more of it for every campain!
@GeminiTasiri
@GeminiTasiri 10 лет назад
Great video, thanks for that. I never played WoW myself (aside from fooling around with Guest Accounts / the Starter Edition a few times) but I did have a friend who was massively into it and he also told me of a few of these lore Easter Eggs. But damn that echo of the Arthas cutscene is more chilling than he could've ever described it.
@mrpvpdeath
@mrpvpdeath 10 лет назад
When I saw the talking cutscene with Uther, Jaina, and Arthas. All I could think was Culling of Arthas by Nixxiom xD
@zubi782
@zubi782 10 лет назад
This was very informative! I knew some of those things already, but I can't believe I didn't know about that ambiance thing in Undercity. That was so damn cool! Please make more videos like this, Crendor!
@dalekmoon
@dalekmoon 10 лет назад
Crendor,this was very enlightening, thank you so much! I just play the game and don't pay much attention to the lore, but this helped explain a lot of things that I was halfway curious about. Thanks again for adding a little color to WoW.
@angamaitesangahyando685
@angamaitesangahyando685 2 года назад
Seeking the signs of Arthas' journey was the first thing I ever did in WoW. I remember watching this video back 7 years ago. There was an old Polish Machinima about the fall of Quel'Thalas set to Elven Path by Nightwish, Arthas got the moon crystals from An'owyn and boarded a Goblin zeppelin, but it's probably gone now, so sad. - Adûnâi
@Boltizar49
@Boltizar49 10 лет назад
The Invincible thing was part of the pre-Wrath event. In vanilla and BC, the grave was still there, and Invincible still buried.
@Aj117
@Aj117 10 лет назад
I have been playing wow for so long and I have never noticed the Undercity Instamatic thing! That is awesome!
@Acronoss1234
@Acronoss1234 10 лет назад
Nice vid Crendor, I knew some of the stuff from playing WC III though, but that's what makes WoW and Blizzard beautiful.
@reviroth
@reviroth 8 лет назад
the tomb of invincible was intact during BC time, and it was opened when WOTLK launche event arrived, it was pretty sweet touch .
@ChronoStrife
@ChronoStrife 10 лет назад
Do more of these! This was a great video! Also some areas (in Northrend in particular) have dialogue from the Warcraft 3 campaigns. Such as the shore in Dragonblight where you basically let the old ghosts know Arthas betrayed them, and the cheesy cinematic that at least the Alliance gets in a quest where Arthas take up Frostmourne and "kills" Muradin (who almost immediately gets back up and runs off with amnesia). More WC3 in later campaigns, same with the Frozen Throne, as well as the little RPG where you play as Rexxar. Do all that stuff! I'd recommend playing WC1 and WC2 as well as they establish some really cool characters that are further developed in WC3, or in WoW Lore for better(Uther) or for worse(Deathwing) in some cases. They also establish where many npcs/dungeon/raid bosses like Danath Trollbane, Zul'jin, and Teron Gorefiend came from. Also, Cox.
@jordivanos8181
@jordivanos8181 10 лет назад
i find warcraft's lore one of the best stories ever in any game. when i play the game it feels so atmospheric thanks to the lore tied to that game. when i first played an undead, i went into the ruins and when i first walked in i say the bell lying on the ground. from that moment on i knew i wanted to see more of the lore and began diving into it. best decision ever, because every day i learn something new from it.; to make a long story short: i played for the gameplay and stayed for the story. THANKS BLIZZ
@VinnieMTG2024
@VinnieMTG2024 10 лет назад
before cataclysm, Andorhal had a plagued grains questline. on alliance side theres a quesline at the beach that you save the souls of arthas soldiers. playing alliance on wrath of lich king theres a questline that leads to frostmourne and you find muradin alive in the cave with his memory lost. on alliance side the on the culling of stratholme theres a nice npc talk at the inn in the beggining with highlord fordring and a couple of guys that find the ashbringer. warsong gulch is the bg based on the current quest on warcraft 3 that crendor is
@BigMatty
@BigMatty 10 лет назад
Cool video crendor! i had no idea that the Undead city ghosts the events of Warcraft 3...awesome stuff!
@cras17
@cras17 8 лет назад
Warcraft 3. Remains my favorite game to this day. Don't go back often enough to play though.
@RenjiAbariZK13
@RenjiAbariZK13 10 лет назад
Love this video, make more please. I grew up playing WC2 and WC3. Didn't play wow until cata unfortunately but i've noticed a lot of people don't realize how drenched in lore 90% of Azeroth is. You can reach a wide audience and spread the lore. Questing in some areas is pretty lame without having prior knowledge to what is going on in that area. Hell, Vol'jin is the son of Sen'jin (if memory serves) which is why the Darkspear tribe side with the horde and also why Vol'jin has such a close relationship with Thrall.
@theory24
@theory24 10 лет назад
Please make more!! I have not gotten around to playing Warcraft 3 (even though I should lol) and I would love to see more of these vids!
@blaz3002
@blaz3002 10 лет назад
Crendor as far as originality and entertainment goes I think this is your best series yet! Keep up the good work and stay cool :)
@CloudStrife893
@CloudStrife893 10 лет назад
The Ghost boy is Arthas' last human side of his emotions. He's talked about alot in the Rise of the Lich King Novel. Arthas is at the final breaking point between losing all humanity or sort of redeeming himself (even though redeeming himself would have most likely meant ending his own life) and he kills the little boy off instead.
@CapOfXav
@CapOfXav 10 лет назад
Good on you Crendor, Getting your lore together like a boss.
@mrwhatBAM
@mrwhatBAM 10 лет назад
the arthas killing his father cinematic in my opinion is one of the best from the entire wc3 and frozen throne campaigns
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