WARFRAME: Citrine's Last Wish Explained 

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i love your work, following since the new war catchup, watched it more than 5 times, yes all 5 hours. Keep the good work as long it dont burn you, see you on duviri video!

@UNG_God, wow! Thank you for that! But also its okay to watch other warframe channels or video essayists, haha

@Assar Bergh. Ghosts. Ghosts told me. They're quite nice people once you get passed the possession and contortion hobbies.

@@SocraTetris i watched it so many times, because the story telling was very good, informative, made so much stuff more clear to me, now i understand a lot more about the origin and how so many stuff looks like one thing, but it is another, like the queens.

And the world lived in peace. That is... until the Sentiments attacked!

That's pretty hard to figure out... when you think that all the Warframes who visit every day are just run of the mill "Miners."

Saryn has the biggest thicc, but she just isnt the new hotness anymore

@@SocraTetris she'll always be the OG Queen 👑

Meanwhile there’s me who just made Mesa Prime, wondering where all the hype for that booty went

Yeah, I was very shocked when I heard those versions for the first time. Very different from how o forst encountered them

I thought ivara was based on that story but this one makes so much sense

Thank you, JMOutlaw! I'm glad my videos are resonating with you :)

Thank you, Thunderjunk. More will definitely come. So long as Warframe is making updates.

That is one of the struggles I have been facing, because I want to do videos on each of the Warframes with a backstory like that. Maybe try to make the Machinemas for those as well. (Also just finished a re-read of Houseki no Kuni, and by God the manga ending is so heart-wrenching.)

@@SocraTetris if you ever do the warframes, maybe nidus prime can be a good start, i really like the aesthetics of a very well build frame that was given an infested hand, where the infestation takes over as it gets stronger, showing that power corrupts, that power march forward not caring what at front (1), that it can collect the enemies at one spot with tricky tactics (2), can use other as shield or as ally (3), can create an stronghold to strength his own (4) and even on face of defeat, it will sacrifice part of itself to preserve the whole (passive).

Wow! That is a very thematic reading of Nidus's kit... You sure you wouldn't make better video essays on the Warframe's specific stories? lol

thank you, Alex. i will!: )

It took a lot of time, but I'm glad I did too. I very purposefully chose Ivara to play both the man and woman roles in the Chang'e story, and chose Grendel because I wanted one of the less represented body types in the game to be the love interest. And Baruuk just naturally feels like "Jade Emperor" material, lol. Makes sense for the Jade emperor to be married to Citrine imho

@@SocraTetris That I can agreed, about the Ivara’s, and Baruuk being a Jade Emperor.

The number of times I thought about putting that into this video and chose not to due to copyright law.

Can't be worse than "Fluffy McLumperLumps."

@@SocraTetris my condolences...

Thank you. Joey! i worked hard on those

Glad you enjoy it, ratshave@ :)

I will get there. Duviri was already massive, but if they keep expanding on it like with Kullervo I'll never get passed the writing and research phase! haha

Me too! Cuz I honestly have no idea how I'm going to approach it. Might take a good long while, haha

Thank you Bio Bot; look forward to more!

I mean, I kind of see your point, because I think that you are coming at this from a perspective of affirming gender identities, which I agree with whole heartedly and vigorously. While the stories that I covered were quite heteronormative, I tried to express through color theory and that final critique on the inconsistent representation of sex/gender that the themes of love and family are just as valid for queer kinds of romance/friendship/family as any other. As well as for any body type. (Especially given that within the text, no Warframe is able to communicate who they were or how they identified before being transformed.) So as a point of analysis, however, taking some statements of some people at DE as a sort of "Word of God" analysis approach isn't productive imo. For one, there is the Death of the Author concept. Anyone there can say what they want at some point, but how it impacts an audience matters regardless. For two, if writers/designers at DE pull from existing cultural inspirations, it isn't really theirs to limit nor sequester. Equinox pulls from Yin-Yang imagery explicitly, which is itself about dualist concepts having a monist relationship. (Which i go over in my original Warframe lore video). One of those dualities in Yin-Yang is explicitly male/female or man/woman as a duality or spectrum depending on interpretation. Third is that games, as collective creations of a team of people, could have someone making a public statement of "This thing is X," while someone else on the team responsible for part of the design was thinking, "This thing is Y." So even a public/official declaration of something like this isn't the sole authority, if anyone else in the writers' room thinks differently without having a voice in the PR or marketing side of the company.

@@SocraTetris Entirely fair. I don't disagree with any of this. It may be more to do with how I interpreted what you said at the end than you're actual meaning. It felt somewhat reductive to me, but I know you also had commented earlier in the video on the same- or, well, very similar context. All in all, a great video. Just a small critique on how I interpreted your phrasing I suppose. Thanks for taking the time to clarify.

All good! Thank you for giving me the opportunity. It was a word that I wrestled with a lot, because i try not to apply hermeneutics too much, focus on receiving what is expressed in-game. But also I doubt there would be any other opportunity to look at gender/sexuality themes in game/in the fan community. And that's an important part of the experience

@@SocraTetris Fair

Glad you liked it, Gymnos. Thank you for watching them!

So in this video, some of the deimos stuff is there. I'm not exactly sure where to put the Heart of Deimos on the playlist. But it is definitely not off the table

@@SocraTetris Fantastic news, appreciate it alot. Take your time lad, don't wear yourself doing this much work.

i didnt realize the were translations for the voidtongue yet! i only know tha Lohk means Void, but i couldnt find the others

Glad you enjoyed it, Allire!

I won't disagree with you there, and I'm glad you are enjoying them! If you have any questions about it, don't hesitate to ask :)

That's a great idea actually! I may very well do that as some bonus vids, like how i separated out Dispute Between A Man and His Ba from The New War video

That's a part where I am stuck. I have no idea if or how much it is trying to challenge gender norms. There have absolutely been sparse attempts, but its also not a consistent theme. Lol, regardless, there's something there!

B) You know it

Everypne must remember that warframe is basically an anime now.

nah, he's dead. Think of the system chart as a timeline. This takes place kn Mars, so it is earlier in the timeline, from a new player perspective, than the assassination on Uranus

You seem to be missing the part where Warframe is a thing made by people that expresses ideas. Warframes aren't real, so the reality of "humans have genders" wasn't the point of critique. It is how gender is used to construct that lore which is the point of critique. Which I expressed explictly in the text of the video. You are welcome to review that section, now that you understand that I am not criticizing the existence of gender.

It got better when I brought up gender, because gender is a part of the game, and therefore a part of the discussion. I was discussing it from the beginning of the video in fact. A discussion of "men are from mars, women are from venus," is a discussion of cisgender as a topic, and directly referenced by the game. Please see this discomfort you feel at engaging with gender as a topic as an opportunity to examine why this one topic brings you discomfort when you have not denied any other aspect of my cultural analysis of the game.

@@SocraTetris The only reason I don't like the fact it's brought up in a video about a game in form of a critique, is because it's been so blown up lately in all kinds of media. The part about mars and venus worries me less because it has been in literature for centuries and mainly for romanticism. You criticising which warframe is which gender and who tells what about a gender felt, first of all, out of place for this kind of a video, and second (and this one is personal) i do feel like games should be free of dramas of outside world. Who cares how they are depicted, what parts they have and what the wiki names them? It's a game. We can simply accept it and move on.

@@SocraTetris And just to be clear, i do not say this in a way that is hateful or that i am angry about this or whatever else. I did enjoy the video- the storytelling and research that went into it is amazing. I thank you for making that video. All i did was voice my concern for I don't want to see a beloved game of mine succumb to the politics of the real world.

Well in fact the mars and venus thing as gendered concepts is only a very recent thing. that late 90s 2000s book i mentioned. For example. the god of war had different genders between hellenist greeks and the roman empire. Gender is not political, it is a part of humanity, a part of our minds and lived experiences. Discussing gender is not political. You games have gender in them so long as they depict people. Trying to regulate and censor discussion of gender or depiction of non-cis genders is political. Your comment is in service of making real people excluded from being recognized. My video is not political, but I think you do have some hatred for this topic. Else you wouldnt have told me to censor myself or become irritated with me for saying something about gender. The moment warframe used the terms women and men, the game itself talked about gender. It's a normal part of life.

Heck, discussion of gender is centuries old. Aristophanes wrote plays and gave speeches at seminar about it.