Warframe OST - The Sacrifice - To Take Its Pain Away (Smiles From Juran) 

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@@alphaseries2 422 :/

HaSTaxHaX im not crying just sweating from the heart

When i first saw the cutscene and the song played It really touch my heart 😭😭😭

correction,mom has left us giving her hat for uncle bal,and left us with a old veteran with ptsd and a scarf,who is a family friend and when we return home,we see mom is a drug addict and so we stab uncle bal for doing this but mom rushes him to grandma,and that is the last we have seen of her so far.

Sounds like Leon the Professional to me.

Xtemper P.V.G. It was really good then you just had to be that guy

@@salmomentum6538 YESSS

It took me a while to get this, and once I saw Excal Umbra, I slapped myself.

So it's a tale of a child who lost its mother and now is curing a grieving father of sadness by replace the child he had been forced to kill many moons ago, poetic

Mr epicness Wow I never really thought about it that way

Oh no is this foreshadowing?

I dont think we are replacing his son. More in the the ways are teaching how to move past it. The choices you can make when you "get" umbra under controll. Make this memory fuel your wrath. Accept it and move beyond it… and i cant remember the 3rd option. Its about precossing grief and moving past it. Its a really good story.

exboi P 0

And hopefully The New War will give us answers :/

Dude i’m not so sure about that last one. We lost spacemom for now. We don’t really have peace bc of the uncertainty and looming threat of the sentient mother and the loss of spacemom.

Zeke 1460 Build the Paracesis and rename it THOT SLAYER and you’ll be fine for The New War

Leorene lol. Put my umbral mods on all my weps and frames and wait for the TAU system.

And the New war what will give us? Sadness ? Pain ? Solitude ? Or nothing, Void ?

That’s actually a beautiful picture to imagine.

Beautiful point. Thank you for sharing this.

It also began with Lotus asking us for forgiveness for lying to us about our true nature. Now her own true nature is revealed. I don't think we'll ever get "her" back. She won't have the same lapse twice, the other sentients would never let her. We're going to chase her beyond the damn stars only to lose her when we're about to claim her back. (That is if DE sticks to the classic hero's journey archetype)

We don't kill rell. The void demon absorbs him fully, and he vanishes physically. If he is dead, it was through the man in the wall.

That is some good Orokin Duality shit right there.

If you pick the light option, the line becomes "We use this memory. It fuels our wrath."

The moon choice is "We return this memory to the Void and find peace in our emptiness."

I appreciate the people who can tell us what the moon and sun options said, but we all know true Tenno chose neutral.

I dunno dude. From what I can tell the Orokin (and Tenno) mythos draws a lot of inspiration from Buddhism, and a key tenant of Buddhism is "Sunyata', which is kind of like emptiness. So I think the moon choice is probably the most fitting.

lemble we know that. but in neutorL, you can see it has both sun and moon perfect in ballance, a compleate harmony and a true Ying and Yang.

space dad is best dad

Connor RK800 nah ordis is best dad

+StarSloth/ Leader Of The Star Sloth Army..........space dads

We losted spacemom to find a spacedad

Ordan karris is our best friend

Juan Dela Cruz I'm not crying you're crying x'D

Nice idea

I want.

that would be so nice

FUCKING PETITION THIS

He did not deserve what Ballas did to him. I can't imagine how soul crushing that guilt he felt must be. And to relive it again, and again, and again.... I don't blame him for the amount of rage he has.

@@kratkartan1486 and we honed that rage into a worthy blade. And I'll gladly do it for any frame like hi.

@@thetau4866 We accept this memory, Beyond its reach.

It is this sole reason alone why I always bring Umbra with me into the New War.

@@ServantofGod284 We use this memory. It fuels our wrath.

Agreed.

What if there was exclusive scenes when you have umbra equipped

This is why I equipped Umbra in the new war. To be there to witness what happened to Ballad. Even if there were no cut scenes I believe he is in peace now

@@blamgit they could have added an interaction of Ballas seeing us with Umbra

That's what I'm saying 💀

Deep

Umbra is at peace now thanks to the operator

He's sad :(

"I'll do you one better. Why is Umbra?"

Why is Umbra

insane, isnt it? this game has much more to offer than most AAA games or blockbuster movies.

I agree this game has more content and stuff to do than any other game i ever played and the comunity that comes with it is incredible i played with alot of different people and did not get the story spoiled once but if you have not done it a warning Finish it.it worth it

Tim B WHY IS IT FREE for a game like warframe I would expect at least $30, but the devs love us I guess

so thats why i cant make it trough a single planet without like 20 bugs and why its very unpolished

Tim B it has more to offer than Fortnite!! And it’s free!!! It’s outstanding.

The thing I love the most about the quest was how they showed that it was the Tenno's compassion and empathy that allowed them to succeed with the Warframes where the Orokin failed, without making it feel or sound like a cheesy Disney aesop. It was delivered just right within the tone of Warframe's lore.

NumbZkull That scene reminded me of Ihro's feel moment

StrikeNoir105E I love that the sentients aren't aliens or anything like that, but that the problems in warframe's universe are all products of the orokins failings

+Olivier Van Der Hoeven The majority of the Orokin's failings have pretty much been products of their own creation that turned against them due to their hubris. The Sentients, the Infestation, the Warframes, the Tenno, the Grineer.... everyone had a beef with the Orokin that created them.

Indeed. The Orokin became so arrogant and convinced about their immortality that they were dicks to pretty much everyone. The sentients wanted to protect the tau system from Orokin ravaging, the Tenno wanted to destroy them because they were awful. The warframes hated the Orokin because of the lives they ruined etc.

The Mothling 6. If not enough, go to Lua and shred Sentients with Umbra.

4.1 dual wield clems to get two times more grakatas

CLEM

Step 7: go to destiny 2 universe and kill uldren.

DARN U ARE RIGHT

Same

You speak true!

That was the only option I thought was viable and fitting. Not to fall into wrath, not to drown in emptiness, but to find acceptance and move on.

Agree

Well based off of the lore we currently have in the game on the stalker we know that he's not a Tenno and that he was part of the Orokin military, some kind of guardian or honor-guard for the Orokin, he blames the Tenno for the death of the Orokin and the destruction of the Orokin Empire, that's why he hunts us. But in the grand scheme of things that's not a whole lot of info.

Legion well given the “New information it’s quite obvious that the stalker infected himself with the helminth to become like umbra, a warframe with a single burning memory, his memory of the Tenno all at once slaughtering the Orokin empire he so admired. And with that in mind he hunts us and wishes to punish us

I want a quest where it shows the history of the Stalker before he was the assassin we once feared. Maybe he was a kind soul, or something. He might have some huge significance when we take flight and go to the Tau System. Who knows? Maybe he would prove to be a formidable ally. I HOPE, DE. I HOPE.

Fuck a nigga named Stalker

Excalibur Umbra XD

Unknown Error this comment make me feel like im replaying the quests (so f good)

“I came back... for you.”

"Dream... But not of what you are, dream of what you want to be"

Now i want to play those quests again

I don't remember that being said

Artek [General] it's what ballas said in the quest when we finally successfully used transference on umbra: "tenno, the mind, the warframe, the body"

Beautiful point of view !!!!

Wait... Half and half? What is this CoffeeFrame, now?

Thats why ballas dresses asymetrically. He planned this

quik maths my dudes

Give me your Hate

Not gonna lie when that happened when I was replaying the quest I jumped out of my fucking chair cuz I thought that the evil in me only came out once after the chains of harrow quest

Thanks for give me your hate

Dear ??? STOP. GIVING. ME. THOSE. FUCKING. DREADS.

Dear ??? How in the hell are you able to craft all the dreads ive taken from you?!

Pyrrhus Studios a MOA?

Yeah, the new MOA pets.

Wait, in a week? Wasn’t it just “sometime” in November (Translator’s note: “Sometime” means November 30th in the language of DE) :kappa:

@@pyrrhuslj6125 I remember them stating that their target date was November 1st in the last Dev Stream I think don't quote me on that, but knowing DE it could be November 1st or it could November 30th and so the Soon memes will pop up again.

​@@Lesion411 Yep you can make MOAs like you could Zaws. They take up the slot of Sentinel but still uses Sentinel weapons

From being supported to supporting? Allow me to tell you a story. When I was new, I wanted to get the Gara Warframe, but I couldn't figure out how to get Orokin Cells. Someone taxied me to Ceres and helped me farm Cells. I asked how I could repay them; they merely said, "When you can help, help." Flash forwards to this week. I joined a newbie taking on the Deimos boss. They barely scratched the shields of the boss. I came down with Gara Prime and War, tearing through the shields and armor like they were paper, blowing away Infested like dandelions. Afterwards, I asked why the newbie was on Deimos; they answered, "For Orokin Cells." So I took them to Ceres. "When you can help, help." From being supported, to supporting.

@@ladywaffle2210 This is beautiful

It can be easy to forget. They all used to be just living as everyday individuals. All destroyed by the Orokin. Destroyed by the desperation of the Orokin to kill the Sentients. They just wanted to live normal lives, and it was all destroyed by the Orokin. In the destruction of the Orokin Empire, Warframe and Zariman children, have basically became a family. And the Lotus, who now no longer has a purpose to serve the Orokin, made a new mission for herself to guide the Tenno. Despite the shit DE gave us, the lore is great and the story is truly worth playing. Just wish the song in my Orbiter didn't have the lame beginning music and just play this song in the video.

A perfect example of this is the Sisters of Parvos quest. Sevagoth's Shadow, in a bid to complete his final mission, calls out to you to help him. When he finally gets you on board his ship, he accidentally gets your Warframe killed. What does he do? He does exactly what he was trying to do for Sevagoth himself. He slaughtered the Corpus, cutting them to pieces, rending them apart until he has the power to restore your Warframe, sacrificing his last vestige of power in the barest of hopes that you will complete his mission. Duty unto Death, dear Shadow.

@@CarvinesIre And then after his shadow reunites with his body. He is laid to rest by the Tenno and they give him a proper space funeral. He wasn't treated like a broken tool to be tossed aside. He was treated like a person who had died doing their duty.

MaldicionCULIAO yep thia is how i think too but why louts leave us alone. i really love louts like a mother for operator and i wont to now what happened to hir and who is tha gay take her and where he is take hir? 😿😿😿😢

Yeah! He definetely grew up , since Second Dream when he was just a kid, and War Within when he was a teenager. He definetely grew up!

Xx_Red/ \Love_xX sometimes parents move away to the backstage to help their children grow :)

"Person" = Void demon

Or she :P

Hey, girls can have balls too!

The Devil when the operator walked out and stabbed ballas wow I was screaming

That's not a female then. :P

When you realize you can only control the warframe but not the tenno

iFlynn Yes this song is so emotional and fantastic

I sat for five minutes after the quest listening to it, completely stunned.

OH MY GOD I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU ARE HERE

iFlynn me too, I wonder if it’s possible if we can scan for the fragments for this song

iFlynn I think with Loki Umbra a thing could be done aswell with Mirage Umbra in which they are like siblings or some shit like that and something happened in the past and in both the shadows and in the light there has been a war between the two and it takes the Tenno to mend what happened. And the primes with the descriptions like ember’s and Rhino’s where her eyes weren’t burnt from the children of the Zariman, and those two guys were running from rhino and were eventually cornered

Laptique well, once we stop crying, it’ll make a damn good salad.

The Last Word lol

bahahaha yeah but for real, glad us manly men can admit to getting sweaty eyeballs too from time to time

Chayy Meridian so true

I shed a single tear, I wanted my Operator to hug the Dax

Godin The Killer same here bro. I wanted to squeeze the crap out of him with a hug. The guy nor his son didn't deserve this.

Me too lol. I realized that Umbra, not only was he in pain due to his mind being scarred by the memory of his killing of Isaah, also lacked the Operator that he needed. Think about it. He went through so much mental scarring without anyone to hold his hand. It also proves the fact that Warframes weren't just these awesome warriors we once conceived. They were still living beings that needed empathy or a connection. This is what Ballas failed to see. He thought that physical torture or experimentation could silence the Warframes, but it was the empathy provided by the Tenno. That was the cost of his arrogance... His demise.

I'm not crying! You're crying! 😭

"Smiles from Juran" Truly beautiful

I hate you, but in a good way TwT

A Criminal Potato Man... You Literally Imagine The Final Of the Next Quest... and I Imagine That Would Be So Wonderful...

Lotus won't be coming back so soon

Zyǐ Bésixdouze i do miss spacemom :(

This... probably won't happen. We will probably have to kill, lotus, the true enemy hidden all along. Who we stored so much trust in. For what she has done, she shall lead the ancient sentients, into battle. As a spawn of orikin technology, we are forced to end it, save yourself. save others. save her. But she possibly could live. and we save her from herself. But this probably won't happen. For now, all we can say is,"We miss you." But we can not stop the inevitable future. She is doomed. There is no hope for her. She has abandoned us. Truly, she sadly, long from saving. She has been like this science chains of harrow. Sadly, she is doomed to die. Rest In Peace, lotus.

I doubt she will truly be coming back as well, but if she is gonna die, it will be as the Lotus, asking us to finish it before she reverts to her sentient mind again. If I were to make a guess, the final cutscene with Lotus, live or die, will feature our Tenno doing what was so long done for us, singing to them, to ease their mind. Music and song is important in the Warframe universe. It was music (Octavia) that gave the signal that started the rebellion against the Orokin, it was song that calmed the troubled minds of the Tenno and it was music that allowed 2 Cephalons and a Tenno to repel a Sentient and save a Cephalon friend. So, when the time finally comes to confront the Lotus or whatever she calls herself now, I think it will be our turn to sing to her...and make her remember who she is to us.

*Hes the best at this game. I still remember the day i beat him.*

But I'm starting to think he did let me win..

Why are you people making me cry here? xD

Forever uphold not the Tenno's, but the Dax's honour

*I am proud to have been your son*

well, that's actually better

Oh shit you're right

well. there is the sundered helmet

For fricken sure

Llazhi i agree

it would be a nice main menu music, but only if youve already done the quest. hearing it for the first time, at the right place and moment makes all the difference.

it's one of my favourites too, but I don't know if overdoing it might make us numb to its deep significance

@@andreylawrencemarinas1961 good suggestion

crafcik 12 that moment had me crying for 5 minuets

Chayy Meridian since I'm a fan of lore it was more interesting and inspiring than feels don't get me wrong I was really immersed and the whole scene left an awesome impression on me. It was so deep. DE still makes me wonder why they don't publish books.

crafcik 12 They should definetly publish books instead of ruining our game with the “grind more and more” mentality :’(

crafcik 12 pretty strong bond no wonder my warframe broke the war in half, they care for us as we care for them

"They had learned a way to see inside a broken, ugly thing... and take away its pain" Actual spine chills. People can say the quest let them down, created too many questions etc. But I prefer it this way. The lore DE are building and (more importantly) the way they are narrating it is just astonishing. This game is an absolute masterpiece, in more that one perspectives.

I picked the Sun option. "We shall use this memory. It fuels our wrath."

"We accept this memory and move beyond it's reach"

I'm wondering if the dialogue options are the wrong way around in this quest. The white "good guy" options come across as angry and harsh while the black "evil" options came across as calm and peaceful.

It is not meant to be good and evil. It is simply a representation of Yin and Yang. Day and Night. The Sun option isn't necessarily the "best one". Rather it is an interpretation of the operators outlook on the world. SPOILERS: After Stabbing Ballas: Moon: "The Cycle is broken." Sun: "Squirm like the maggot you are."

Killjoy there is no good-evil. Steve specified this on Twitter. The way my friends and I broke it down was Sun: very carpe diem type. More about making your own destiny. Moon: more "que sera sera" (what will be, will be). More about following the flow of causality. This is evidenced in TWW regarding the Operator's void powers: Sun is "I hated it", indicating a refusal to accept what happened, Solstice (middle) is "I controlled it", being a "I will take what happened, and I will use it." Moon is "I embraced it", being "I take this event, and will follow the path it sets me on"

She's still space mom dammit

*Hunhow' daughter*

:D lets just call her annoying

you all know we will get to fight her sooner or later..

she's dead to me. I wish we could replace whole mission guide voice with Ordis.

The other is Hunhow

Meteroson and the sentient

now theres two....either hunhow or natah

Stalker and Gay as Hek too

the rest are a bunch of sentients

jose acivedo i didn’t but my SO did

*Dream...not of what you are, but what your want to be*

"Now we fight on two fronts my child - the war without... and the war within" that was my chosen line and it was perfect to me :)

according to me, it's not exactly betrayal. Ballas took control of the Sentients (and Natah with them) freed from his control, Natah went back to her original allegiance

Charles Piveteau I doupt in that - after being stubbed by Umbra and after Operator's question about "Where is She?!" he said, that he was just a stone, while She was the hand, which means, that Natah wasn't controled by Ballas form the moment, when he took her away in "The Aphostasy Prolog" and that she was the one person, who coordinated moves.

U my friend are brig memories from the void back

the first time I saw that scene from ATLA was when I was a kid, got my eyes bawling out.

I didn't cry, I just let off a single tear

I cant cry..

I have no feelings thanks to nonsense slaughtering hordes of enemies....

Slay the traitor sentient!

I did not cry. I opened myself, took in the moment, made it a memory inside of me. Then I returned this memory to the Void and found peace in my emptiness.

It's hard to believe that a game is able to make you feel this peaceful

On a snowy mountain? With the Kuva Scepter in hand, perhaps?

Well on my mind i dont have the image of the scepter but theres a tree where i see myself

i wished my warframe was involved in these cinematics

Made*

I know this is an old comment BUT...Anthem...disgrace. Stole Warframe style movement, but not a SINGLE musical score of any sagnificance and a story so broken not even salvagable.

ok can ssomeone explain how this game is free OH WAIT it's because ea hasn't caught them yet

I would have still played of they cared and updated, why DE? why?

This The land we call our home

BIOforge Studios I still can’t believe I got this amazing game, my favorite game ever, for FREE

BRO! The whole time I was telling myself that this sounds like a cross between How to Train Your Dragon and Avatar. Specifically the episode where Iroh is honoring his dead son’s memory. I’m so emotional right now.

White Lotus best Lotus!

Leaves from the vine Falling so slowly...

wait.... lost his son,... like tea - event gives you a free orokin tea set- full of wisedom - idol chat of player thinking they killed his son - umber is uncle iroh

Like fragile tiny shells Drifting in the cold

FallFromAshes he could talk if the virus didnt take his voice away

MORGATH99 destiny can't beat that

With only passion and shit-ton of money from all the cosmetics we keep buying cause we're all addicted, but yeah, good point

@@erykszumanski8303 Its free now, and I honestly still respect the bungie developers

The build requires *Heavy Trauma* and *Continuous Agony*

@@halcyon1644 Also *Rage* and *Undying Will* .

The earliest warframes are regular people turned infested yeah, bit the new ones are not

@@nath7486 All of the Primes are people, and I've put so many hours into the game that the majority of my frames are Primes (save ones that don't have a Prime version, like Yareli).

i think primes and regular warframes are artificial bodies but umbra warframes are deformed people, not sure tho

​@@MW-kf9rf yeah primes and regular frames are just basically infested tissue once. But the Umbra frames were once people.

Yula568 Did you take the path of the sun?

"We accept this memory, and move beyond its reach."

meegumeme, Wrath is indeed Sun.

meegumeme yes, i am. It sounded epic and fit to my character, who mains Valkyr ^^;

"We return this memory to the Void, and find peace in our emptiness."

even in death, he's still a massive dick

@@rakshar6299 sorry but i need to inform you that the new Chimera prologue he don't have a dick any more or you could say *BALLESS*

Spoilers the dudes 50 % ass crack now

They forgot that the frames were still partially human. If even just a small fraction. They failed to realize that maybe the frames do remember their past lives and are tormented by those memories. Their Humanity was screaming out for relief from the pain. The Tenno took it all away.

Well, at the end of the Second Dream our frame does act on its own.

And the first mirage she fought untill the bitter and against the sentients

the first rhino where he enters the muscle cave and works out for 400 years

All Umbras were Dax. Would a Dax use a pair of guns? We don't know. I believe each Umbra may be of the original 8; selected or punished with the Umbra transformation procedure, with Excalibur (Prime) being the 9th meaning there's currently a chance of having only 7 other Umbras, but we'll see. Excalibur brought with him a sword; could the next bring a sidearm, or a primary? Many possibilities. Why would I say all of them were Dax? Look at Stalker's Codex. He too was a protector, but then at the ceremony, he could not speak; Umbra could not speak, either as part of their punishment, or as part of Ballas' twisted plan. Also, Stalker's current form has the same chassis as Umbra. I wonder how Stalker would react if he were to meet Umbra, beyond his near-mindless futile attempts to assassinate us in the field? On that note, what would Teshin say, when he beholds Umbra? One other thing I've come to accept is that Umbra - or any person we directly use Transference with over a period of time, is in some manner 'assimilated' or otherwise permanently mentally linked, preserved within the Void-expanded Tenno mind in a way that makes the Tenno incapable of distinguishing whether they are the Umbra's inhabitant, or themselves as alluded to when we engaged Ballas. That said, I believe Ballas is not as dead as we'd like; he is Orokin, and Orokin cannot be killed, - according to Ordan Karris, at least, - likely not without taking their soul - their Oro. That aside, I am curious as to where his executioner's blade is, as he did not take it to our engagements. Perhaps it's because of the stance being incomplete and Melee 3.0 being a work-in-progress?

You have it in codex. For Ember and Rhino. You have story about some people. At first i was confused, but then the Second Dream came out, and i was thinking that those stories were somehow directed to Tenno themselfs. Now i understand, that truth behind those long lasted stories within the game is that, they were about first warframes. The story about heroes of the orokin, turned into this monstrosities. Frames of war.

yeah u said it pootis bird

But same as exalibur

Same man

You forgot about me bro

@@ifyouseethisnameyourvidisdumb you my friend are the bane of the sentients you will be there slayer there end purge the abominable false intelligence

@@depressedgwyndolin thank you for seeing me its been a long time

@@ifyouseethisnameyourvidisdumb I main you and ember

It’s a shame Umbra sleeps if you were to use him for the quest

I did too. Would be great to see Umbra fighting for dear life to keep the Operator from falling into the Void, and then seeing Ballas killing the Operator right in front of him, would have made Umbra gone ballistic after having to witness the murder of another child. I wish they did something like that, and with no mind to control Umbra he would have became a dangerous threat to Ballas since he can't control Umbra anymore.

@@USAFreewayROTF they did not do this because i was with umbra ans that was the same cinematic

@@sidycou47 I know, that's why I said "I wish they did it too".

@@USAFreewayROTF My bad 😅

@@sidycou47 All good

Jennifer Yaner yea, i get close every time i see it. its a touching story, how they found friend ship and family in the darknes and terror of their world. also the virus contamination of Umbra and the whole scene in the hospital was creepy as hell.

do you follow mrwarfameguy ?

Dan Matrix hahahaha

*-PEE IS STORED IN THE MEDIC BAG-*

@Dan Matrix Badum Tss

I see you are here too...

Same

EnVy MiDNiT3 no matter how many times i read this quote (its half the comments on this video) i still get chills, its just such a pure powerful quote and even tho de might bot be making the best decisions gameplay wise no doubt about it they can come up with damn good story’s and quotes(and music)

-Wrath 🌕 -Acceptance 🌓 -Emptiness 🌑

DUDE SAME

Densel Moore Because Umbra Is the Father Of Isaah,he revived the moment when Ballas Forced Him To Kill His Son and Now We Are Here To Take Him Pain Away,Like The Warframes Take Our Pain Away... Now it's our Turn...

Well all Umbras will suffer that's why they are Umbras, the other normal and prime Warframes are willingly transformed and gave complete control over themselves. But Umbras are suffering from it and try to escape the control so the Orokin tryed to contain them, that is why Umbras can walk for themselves at the time where normal ones are waiting for instructions.

I used to feel sorry for oberon and limbo until their rework

Excalibur Umbra had to relive the death of his son by his hands for his long existence, it's possible other orokin age warframes may only retain one memory

its going to be DElayed probably lol

You know how to play, think your move and the board senses.

soonTM

Austin Yang uhm lmao? They’ve been saying “SoonTM” for the past two years

Super Charles id honestly love to have Komi just as a passtime thing, like in your quarters

leon2550 shit

leon2550 The tree was there before Isaah died and the Orokin is arrogant enough to not bury his grave

leon2550 now I Understand:Howl All You Want,It Won't Bring Him Back

now that you mention it, the whole place has a striking resemblance to a graveyard...

LuKoRo1357 ive seen many theories that it was a dax graveyard. So even if Isaah’s grave isn’t there, it still reminds him of isaah

Tuzark hes still human deep down

I had this habit pre-sacrifice of bringing every new frame into my transference chamber and bowing deeply to them and then in turn having them perform a (less deep) bow but now? It feels.. significant

iMilond003 Gamer #destiny can't beat that

Only if you're a ninja

A fair point, but what stuck out to me was it _only_ seems to make sense in this particular case. It's quite the opposite in every other questline so far.

It goes back further than that. The Second Dream had the first such choice. But more than that, there are several optional quests which most of us will have played through, and they don't always make sense in the context of Yin & Yang.

So you think this quest represents a change in DE's approach to how the morality system handles morality itself.

Actually, I think he just wasn't expecting the Umbra warframe to be able to disobey his commands. He plainly doesn't think of the Tenno as being too principled to kill him: After all, he was present to watch them do just that to the other Orokin. (To say nothing of the fact that every player, and thus, every Tenno in the game has killed at least hundreds of sapient beings already, if not hundreds of _thousands.)_

Phoenix 731 that actually makes sense now. I went full sun in war within, (avoiding bloodshed on the Zaramin, hating the void, destroying the Kuva) but seeing the dialogue options makes me want to take neutral and moon options in this quest when it land on console. The sun choices are a bit too harsh for my taste, being that wrath and maggot dialogue

Maniacal Coast may be

@ *WHERE IS THE SCAN LOCATION TELL ME IMMEDIATELY*

@@the_protectorof_smols3563 sacrifice quest i think