The scream wasn't his son's, but his own. It was the last sound, the last call for help, the last words to his son ever heard, before his blood spread before ballas's gruesome smile.
I wish Umbra had more of a presence in the story after this. Beyond this mission he's just another frame, albeit one that can move on its own. He deserves to be more of a character
That's what I was thinking as well ! I mean, he could've have done so much in the new war. I mean, at least make special cutscenes if you've got him equipped. That way'd be a little yet awesome detail to see Umbra actually reacting to see the asshole who did that to him alive. Plus, the fact he's a sentient warframe could've helped in many moments as well.
@@junn4538 EXACTLY! Even if you don't equip him he should at least be involved in the final confrontation with Ballas. He deserved to at least watch the monster be crushed
this is literary one of the reasons i wanted to finish my digital animation studies, really looking forward to make a version where umbra is making a smol role in the New War quest. Just need to figure a way to make a massive portal and a massive ship replica....and how to get the characters to animate them lol
Ballas' monologue during the unity. It just shows how the Orokin are so flawed in their philosophy, beliefs, and behaviors. They deem themselves "so perfect on the inside" but "they are rotten, through and through", as worded by Margulis. They dehumanized their best Dax soldiers to create weapons of mass destruction that barely anyone could hope to ever stop. They thought that the only way to control them was through violence and torture. They tried and tried until the Tenno came to be and for some reason unbeknownst to the Orokin, the Tenno controlled the Warframes like it was child's play. Literally. But they thought it was because of the Void powers the children have. That was completely wrong. Margulis served as their mother figure and provided them the compassion and love they needed when everyone turned against them. The Tenno simply did the same for the past Dax soldiers turned into Warframes. The same thing happens here when our Operator unites with Umbra. The Orokin are so culturally flawed to the point that the very concept of love... was FOREIGN to them.
Exactly, look at the most recent conversations between Kahl and Daughter Entrati, she starts to realise what she holds as a family is wrong and messed up, and she just wants to feel the love that Kahl shows so openly to his brothers.
@@brother_sothothonce you complete their quests and learn all of their names you realise the Entrati do care for each other deeply. It isn't messed up. They are human to a fault.
@@caliburn1123 Yes they do, but there are two things here: 1) The Entrati are already weirdos by Orokin standards. 2) I think to a degree they cannot help themselves, but as a culture the Orokin definitely fucked up enormously.
2:24 music definitely plays a factor. I remember in the Vitruvian, Ballas giving that little speech about the Operators, and the tone of it felt ominous, but at this moment, it had a calming vibe or something..
Sentients used to be so much more threatening way back in the day tbh. On Lua I'd dread fighting them until I started abusing the old "blind and grind" (radial blind and exalted blade killed them rather quickly)
Best cutscen in the whole game in my opinion. It's really heart warming seeing us comforting umbra bringing back his sanity and seeing him finnaly accepting the past...
From the second dream to the war within to the sacrifice... I recently got into warframe due to my friend begging me to play it and these three quests have quite literally exceeded any expectation I could've ever had. Shoutout to my friend for going years on end without spoiling this story for me. He's a real one
@@SurveyorStudios addicting is putting it mildly. I've been sitting here vibing with my newly acquired umbra while doing other things on my laptop for about an hour or more lol
its kinda interesting that Balas of all people could see what the Tenno were doing with transference, and he didnt try to chalk it up to some demon trick.
Ballas wasnt your average orokin He did fall in love with a normal person (Margullis) after all And well...he also tried to eat the sun but i guess that all orokins would do that if they could
The father figure sure had quite the adventure but ran away, because he forgot the milk in the store, then we came to comfort him, saying "Mother datamoshed the milk at home"
Umbra spent his life trying to murder Ballas in revenge for what he did to he and Issah, but with the New War quest, our Tenno can finally finish what Umbra set out to do - To snuff out the gold from Ballas’s vain glory, and put him out of commission. I like to imagine that for those who didn’t bring Umbra to the New War quest, he was watching from the Orbiter, silently thanking the Tenno, feeling through some Orokin-made force that Ballas had been slain.
@@Keram-io8hv Yeah and I really dislike that The few things I would've changed... Have Erra give you the Caliban so it makes sense since sentients are able to survive in the sun because of their armor and resistence and it's a great way to try and see if we would enjoy the new frame (Kinda like the battle in the void with Sevagoth) Have Umbra be a background character, as in, have him be the one piloting the Railjack with Cephalon Cy to help you. And the final fight Cy sends Umbra to you to help with the finishing blow. But show Umbra slowly getting burned by the sun (leading to a new free skin at the end of the quest). (I like the fact that whatever warframe you use means that warframe armor can survive being melted by the sun but can't fight against flamethrowers)
2:28 TFW some random kids learn empathy, and the Orokin are like "yo WTF how he do that???" when they manage to actually utilize the Warframes by empathizing w/ the infested hosts
I like how they show how swift and forceful umbras arm moves as he lofts his blade, showing how strong these warframes physically are. The superhuman movement was spot on.
Something that I was really disappointed in was how they repaired the facial damage after it pins you to the wall of the Liset. When you see the Tenno and the Warframe come together, that's when it should have repaired. It's such an easy and obvious display of the Tenno helping heal the Warframe it would have suited it perfectly.
@@deleteduser3455 Depends. Literally. Men usually don't show much emotion, not that we don't have, just don't feel like showing. 90% of the time emotion is shown on men is when they are appreciating something, like their family, or they are depending on something. But with our culture men is usually what everyone depends upon, like fighting wars or fixing doors, because most often men enjoy does it. So when a man is depending on something other than himself, we see that man is 'undependable' thus 'weak'. It's a side effect of culture, but I and most men I know don't mind it too much, because that's the type of mentality that get things done 👍 Imagine a fight, we would prefer a calm minded man over a angry idiot who punch every thing.
There’s a reason why I left Warframe. I was never there for the grind, the exotic goods. I was there for the story. And my my, this literally took my breath away the first time I experienced it. May comeback to where I’ve left off
Never underestimate the devily Hunhow, He could what we couldn't...We had created monsters we couldn't control We drugged them,tortured them...eviscerated them...we brutalized their minds..but it did not work..until they came,And it was not their force of will-not their void devily-not their alien darkness...it was something else. it was that some how,from within the derelict-horror,they had learned away to see inside an ugly broken thing - - - And take away its pain.
We are children who have lost our parents three times other: first our bio parents and then Margulis and now the Lotus. He is a parent who has lost his only child by his own hand but forced by his Orokin master. Both of them are reliving the moment they lost those loved ones and swimming through the pain. The only difference is we, the Tenno, have one another to lean on while Umbra did not have anyone. It makes sense why Tenno connect to this particular Warframe so easily once Umbra realizes they are no threat to him: they need one another.
THIS! This was a peak of Warframe lore and story. A truly atmosphere peak, where all connected in each other and form whole big story with characters and... some interesting thoughts. *UNLIKE THE NEW WAR!*
I still find it sad that Umbra didn't become a permanent character in the story. With all that stuff we were talking about, you'd expect that Umbra would be the only warframe that would continue fighting the Narmer during New War. Just think about it, what if the Solari members found Umbra, and the latter decided to start helping them. And then, later on, while we're playing as Drifter, we will get into a sticky situation and Umbra would come in to save us. That would be a cool way to reunite us with what's probably our most trusted Warframe. Then, during the fights against the Archon, Umbra will be there as a support. We still won't be able to control him since we don't have our Void Powers back, but he'd still be fighting beside us. It's just sad that this character was completely written out even though they could've done so much with Umbra.
I want an crossover Iroh meets a character name Excalibur Umbra from Warframe Because those two has much in common, expect that Umbra never find peace for himself, even after the war has ended thousands years ago. Imagine this as Iroh appears a strange place, he looks around him, old ruins of carve stones and plants cover everywhere, but he hears an loud roar distance away, right under an old blossom tree. This humanoid creature in all black skin with gold bits attached to it, while it's arm with decorate katana looking weapon but it's kneeing down holding it's face or horns but It's doesn't have a face or mouth. But you can tell, it's deeply in pain. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YnAGnQQunto.html This is what it would looks like in this trailer of umbra The roar turns out to be a cry, but it's gives out a glow of energy waves past by each time it's crys *Iroh looks around for a minute then understands what this place is, so he walks towards it, while singing the vine song. This place is a graveyard of soldiers, Under the blossom tree, is where Umbra's son graves is at. Never forgive itself even after the war has finished including his great empire he was supposed to protect has fallen. *Umbra backstory* Umbra was a once a human he is an highly decorate Dex warrio, he was forced in a test experiment to become a warframe, the unstoppable super soldier with instructional body and strength that almost like demi god. Biggest side effect, you becomes an lifeless empty husk, trap in an powerful body. This test is about to see, if umbra able to fight the virus to control his body after fully become a warframe. It's an successful experiment at the cost of killing his own son. The point killing his own son, while being infected by the virus, they needed something to bring great trauma, helps to keep fighting the virus from eating his mind. Now he is trap in a loop of same memories killing his own son while manipulate by his master's to protect the empire forever. Umbra can't talk, but he can play an shawzin ( an musical instrument like a guitar ) Imagine Iroh sings while Umbra plays his shawzin of the vine song. It's fits so well together, both of them suffers from the war and lose there sons. I would like to see someone draw it.
That isn’t his story at all ? The Dax who became Umbra was a decorated and highly respected Dax who sniffed the betrayal scheme of Ballas, who wanted to leek the information about the Resevoir in Lua to the Orokin’s greatest enemy at that time: Sentients, Hunhow. Ballas wanted to bring ruin to the Orokin by leeking the secret of the Warframe to the Sentient, because he believes the Orokin made him executed Margulis, a woman patent the Transference design for the Tenno. Ballas has a twisted love for Margulis, and when she defied the Seven, he had to execute her. The Dax had a suspicion about Ballas’s loyalty to the Orokin after the ordeal, so Ballas warrant his silence by plant a cultured helminth strain within him, and brutalize his mind with the memory of him killing his own son.
Why is no one talking about the "Don't worry old friend, I'm not going to kill your boy... **You are**" I out loud said "oh shit-" when that happened because I was so immersed and in that moment made the connection of corrupted **insert name of Umbra here** + Ballas' speech about each token being a family member taken away + all the infestation in the room + plus it's all a memory so it already happened = "Oh shit wait Umbra NO-"
We need a couple more to "Take away their pain" Valkyr, Limbo, Maybe Nidus, Rhino among others. We need to have them in black and moving, we need them to think, quite literally...
@@Simon_Azrael_The_Doctor Very unlikely, cause he is up there with Xaku and Caliban for having the least/no humanity (Xaku is a construct, Caliban is a sentient, Nidus is pure infestation iirc)
@@someguy2347 all(most) Warframes are, or atleast, were human at one point I'd like to see a nidus umbra in the terms of What little humanity that remains in the meat puppet struggles against the will of the infestation Kinda like jordas And we put its mind at ease when we subdue the will of the infestation with our own
@@Simon_Azrael_The_Doctor This is kind of agreeable at this point, but I feel like albeit possible for these to be an umbra I feel like DE might first go with either the OG 8 or some of the following lorewise-accurate examples: -Sevagoth (Like the stalker, he is one of the only warframes currently who can speak, his shadow too) -Valkyr (Depends on whether or not the whole Alad V stuff happened before or after transference. If it was before the frames were fitted for transference, then the trauma she might have suffered might be enough to still keep her mind intact enough to be an umbra) -Titania (As we know somebody managed to tap into her mind and discovered that she not only still has rational thoughts, but she also possessed feelings) -Rhino (For what I know he might've been one of the involuntary "lab rats", cause for what I know he attempted to escape and run away while partially turned) I am not so sure about others atm, but will edit this comment probably if new info presents itself to my knowledge. For what I know the Leverian stories and Waverider graphica shouldn't be believed as hard evidence for possible umbras, cause neither Drusus, nor the guy who made Waverider were aware of the Tenno or transference and treated the frames as themselves, so for now we exclude the following: -Ash (though because he is an OG, he might be the most likely to be Umbrified) -Atlas -Grendel -Gauss -Ivara -Lavos -Nova -Nezha -Styanax -Voruna -Yareli
Go be toxic on someone else I’m not in the mood and if you mess with me again I will send my builders on whatever consul you on and they will hack and take all your stuff
Just because we get Umbra to accept the past, doesn't mean his wrath is invalid. I always chose wrath because I'm acknowledging his pain, and I'm allowing him to channel it into his fighting, like Kratos does. Wrath isn't always a bad thing when you can control it.
when I first played this. I was hoping they do something like this, with the other two starter frames. Since they too were overshadowed by the frames that came after. giving them something the others didn't.
So its was a glitch, for me when umbra pick up his sword in the background there was another umbra swinging his sword and my heart disappeared why did i edit my comment
Well... It was great times when DE was able to create quests that you will want to complete again and will remember. Now we have whisper in the walls... Personally I don't like it because of romance between Albrecht and Loyd...
