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Warhammer Fantasy Lore: Orcs and Goblins - Total War: Warhammer 2 

The Book of Choyer
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@TheBookofChoyer
@TheBookofChoyer 5 лет назад
Thank you for watching! Hope you enjoyed this episode. The next race, as suggested here in the RU-vid comments, is going to be the Druchii. Maybe we´ll have that video by the end of November. In the mean time I have a lot of cool stuff coming for the channel. Be sure to check out the blog post to read the full notes on this episode and more info on the upcoming content. Oh! and sorry for the bad quality in some of the scenes, it was footage taken from the orcs & goblins trailers. Will see what I can do for the next one. As always, your feedback is more than welcome!
@Dreadwins
@Dreadwins 5 лет назад
good pick! #truephoenixking
@simmdevereaux3344
@simmdevereaux3344 5 лет назад
You should do the Kurgan
@auramoonlight6978
@auramoonlight6978 5 лет назад
Oops sorry I forgot I already asked that question about the vampire counts on the green skins.
@victorwonder
@victorwonder 5 лет назад
I know this is an old video and it's great and all but I thought a "lore" video would have a more in-depth look at the Greenskins. This faction lore video is a bit lacking with actual lore info - it's more of a lore summary. This is just a bit of constructive criticism . Not trying to make light of the hard work that goes into making these types of videos. Cheers!
@SPQR7117
@SPQR7117 3 года назад
Have you looked into doing a lore video on Morglum Necksnapper?
@datemasamune2904
@datemasamune2904 4 года назад
Warcraft Orcs: We just want to live in peace with the spirits! Warhammer Orcs: We just want to leave you in pieces, to the spirits!
@vesuv1u5
@vesuv1u5 Год назад
WoW orcs during Garrosh's reign: "In my world i see mountains of skulls and rivers of blood and I WILL HAVE MY WORLD!" WoW orcs after Thralls takes Horde back: me green good boi, pls don't kill me hooman. Warhammer orcs during always: Cmon boyz, letz kill sum stunts! WAAAAAAGH!!!
@guitarpop
@guitarpop Год назад
Warcraft orcs were like that before, too, until they ruined them in WCIII.
@cody1570
@cody1570 Год назад
Bro they couldnt be any more seperate in ideas
@jademers88
@jademers88 4 года назад
This sounded like a nature documentary
@NationalDevin
@NationalDevin 4 года назад
Admittedly, I get confused about Mork and Gork, but I think of it like this. One of them is Brutally Cunning in the fact that he plots brutally, he makes plans to be cunning and achieve his goals. While the other one is Cunningly Brutal in the fact that he knows how to kill you in the best, most brutally efficient way.
@s7robin105
@s7robin105 2 года назад
Brains and bronze of the orks
@ezequielalmada197
@ezequielalmada197 5 лет назад
Dat was dead gud an' proppa u git! WAAAAAAGHHHHH!!!
@TacoSuprize
@TacoSuprize 2 года назад
The bone bois had nagash and endless units, elves and dark elves have magic and superior genetics. Lizards somehow invented a space lazer. And theres no such thing as ratmen with nukes and endless numbers. But the orcs who have a technological breakthrough when putting a bigger rock on a catapult somehow had grimgore beat the forces of chaos...... "If you're gonna be dumb you gotta be tuff". Great song.
@jamesflowers8054
@jamesflowers8054 Год назад
I now cannot get the thought of a goblin doom diver listening to the Smut Peddlers before hucking themselves at some 'umies
@discoskull
@discoskull 5 лет назад
These are extremely well done. Love seeing these engaging lore videos I actually want to actively watch, instead of just leave on in the background.
@TheBookofChoyer
@TheBookofChoyer 5 лет назад
Thank you Discoskull! 👐🙏😃
@yancieb
@yancieb 5 лет назад
Jeez these videos are spectacular. You did a fantastic job OP.
@TheBookofChoyer
@TheBookofChoyer 5 лет назад
Thanks a lot Double Dose! Glad you are enjoying them!
@ricardososajr.9906
@ricardososajr.9906 5 лет назад
Never underestimate the power of the Orcs!!! Awesome video!!
@TheBookofChoyer
@TheBookofChoyer 5 лет назад
Thank you!👊😀
@swordguy6368
@swordguy6368 5 лет назад
My god man I just discovered this channel and just bravo. I just found someone else to learn warhammer lore from.
@Deadknight67
@Deadknight67 4 года назад
Gorbad Ironclaw, although not in Total war, would deserve an episode as well. He has been the greatest of all Orc Warlords that has ever lived. Great Video!
@Occatuul
@Occatuul 5 лет назад
So do the dwarves hate the goblins or the skaven more? Well anyway, I look forward to more videos on all 3 in the future.
@TheBookofChoyer
@TheBookofChoyer 5 лет назад
Occatuul great question! But I'm Not really sure man. Gotta look into the Book of Grudges to see what's up!
@SuperOverlord94
@SuperOverlord94 5 лет назад
@@TheBookofChoyer Ye wanna look at the Book of Grudges like it's a bloody encyclopedia? That one goes into the book, laddie!
@AtomicMonkeybutt
@AtomicMonkeybutt 5 лет назад
Have they not known of the Goblins for a good while longer than the Skaven? Also, Skarsnik alone has a whole chapter dedicated to him in the Book of Grudges.
@dhorn4005
@dhorn4005 5 лет назад
I would say the greenskins. As mentioned in the video, dwarves have fougth the greenskins since the golden Age; back when the dwarven gods still where living among their children; while skavens came into existence milenia later. The first encounter (that I'm aware of) with skavens is during the Time of Woes; and even then, it is only after the bloody Goblin War; being the greenskins the ones who dealt the greatest damage to the declinig Dwarven Empire. Even nowadays; while skavens are a common threat to the Karaks and mines and the greatst rivals in therms of control of the undergroung territories; they are not such a constant threath as the greeskins: not only goblins try to invade the Karaks using the underground mines; but orkish tribes constantrly siege the fortreses from the outside; sack small dwarven villages or assault travelers in the surface (not to speak the attack to allied humans). Also, while skavens have been a constant impediment to the re-building of the subterranean empire; greenskins are the ones who have held up dwarven fortreses for the longer; being Karak Eigth Peaks a major goblin kingdom and the old Karak Ungor the major headquarter of Grimgor Ironhide himself... So, while both races are equally hated (if anithing; for a dwarf there is not such a thing as a greater grudge than another; all of them must be avenged after all) I would say that the greenskins have gained a pretty speciall hatred in the heart of all dwarfdom... After all "The only good grobbi; is the dead grobbi"
@durnin101
@durnin101 4 года назад
Ah yes a fair question. What about the treacherous pointy ears though? The War of the Beard. Shaving a dawi is the utmost sin
@ahmadtarek7763
@ahmadtarek7763 5 лет назад
I NEED MORE. Can't wait for Sunday , u guys are waaaaay better lore channel than most , a combination of cool cinematics and interesting narration is very effective . A very easy and deserved sub .
@TheBookofChoyer
@TheBookofChoyer 5 лет назад
Thanks a lot for your words man :) there´s more content to come!
@pritzi101
@pritzi101 5 лет назад
Outstanding - and I just want to praise you to the rafters for not pronouncing Waaaagh with a hard G at the end like so many others. I never understood it - every ork in warhammer games always makes it clear that it's obviously just a bastardisation of "war"
@mikkelnpetersen
@mikkelnpetersen 4 года назад
When there's no other race left to fight, the orks will just build some spaceships and find someone else to fight, if they can get past fighting themselves.
@WafflezDay
@WafflezDay 4 года назад
The Warden and the Paunch update is finally going to make Greenskins relevant.
@calebcrites5039
@calebcrites5039 4 года назад
I wish all the lore videos ive watched sounded like nature documentaries like this one
@hughgedney3393
@hughgedney3393 4 года назад
A very extremely awesome video as always The Book of Choyer. And the orcs and goblins of Warhammer have far more numbers than of Tolkien's middle earth orcs.
@thebaron9405
@thebaron9405 5 лет назад
In the words of pasha, that was "just fine"👌 Question, did you make a lore vid about the skaven?
@TheBookofChoyer
@TheBookofChoyer 5 лет назад
Thank you 👊!! Yes, I made one like 2 months ago. You can check it out here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6VbRpmTBhCc.html&t
@ikasbramantya8585
@ikasbramantya8585 5 лет назад
I hate greenskins faction in mortal world campaign, especially if you played on hard difficulty level, everytime i defeat them, there's always more to come....
@fumarc4501
@fumarc4501 5 лет назад
Kuz yer a git!
@warbosswurldsmasha5414
@warbosswurldsmasha5414 4 года назад
Lore accurate.
@gandalfhyperdrive
@gandalfhyperdrive 2 года назад
The green tide!
@michallempl5958
@michallempl5958 Год назад
Hate is a strong Word one that should be used carefully. You dont have any enemies my son
@AsdfAsdf-jd6tj
@AsdfAsdf-jd6tj 4 года назад
2:08 Even orcs know how to use religion to justify war.
@hunterwood9330
@hunterwood9330 5 лет назад
You deserve more subs dude....great video 👍
@TheBookofChoyer
@TheBookofChoyer 5 лет назад
Thank you Hunter! 😃🙌
@ghaine12
@ghaine12 4 года назад
absolute masterpiece, love the scenic views and the lore
@TheBookofChoyer
@TheBookofChoyer 4 года назад
Thank you 🙌😃
@dustinallan3362
@dustinallan3362 5 лет назад
These are so cool!
@jackiesantos2121
@jackiesantos2121 4 года назад
I cannot believe the Orcs and goblins or the space orks from 40K well the old ones created them just mentioning
@SpaceKnight105
@SpaceKnight105 4 года назад
and the mighty goblin king grom the paunch
@TheWickerMan1981
@TheWickerMan1981 4 года назад
Shouldn't have skipped the greenskin lifecycle it's too great not to mention.
@elite463
@elite463 2 года назад
Explain
@MalcolmXYanZ
@MalcolmXYanZ 4 года назад
Amazing video I’m hooked
@TheBookofChoyer
@TheBookofChoyer 4 года назад
😃🙌
@mikkelnpetersen
@mikkelnpetersen 4 года назад
8:54 Ork dance-off
@R3ap3r28
@R3ap3r28 5 лет назад
Thank you for making these!!! Warhammer lore is the best!!
@MrMaxenen11
@MrMaxenen11 5 лет назад
Throgg VS Grimgore Ironhide. Who wins?
@friedlemons5201
@friedlemons5201 3 года назад
Gotrek bitchslaps both of them with his continental balls and plot armor
@deathpunk1878
@deathpunk1878 5 лет назад
you just need a good fungicide to wipe out the Orcs and Goblins :P
@Shpongle64
@Shpongle64 5 лет назад
currently doing a Skarsnik campaign. I'm doing my best to roleplay him. I try to bring a ludicrous amount of basic goblin units and archers. I want it to look like that scene from the Hobbit: Unexpected Journey, where they meet the goblin king.
@ahmadtarek7763
@ahmadtarek7763 5 лет назад
I tried it and gave up , goblins have abysmal moral and every one declares war around the tenth turn ,skarsnik and the spider are pretty good tho ... How is ur campaign going ? Any advice for a fellow total war fanboy ? PS : I'm good with the greenskins faction even on very hard it's just the position and early units that hamper my progress .
@Shpongle64
@Shpongle64 5 лет назад
@@ahmadtarek7763 I'm doing Skarsnik on Hard campaign right now and I've figured right at the start to not try and hit Karak Norn to your south. It's too defensive and their army never leaves. I've seen some argue that you CAN rush Karak Norn but it'll be tough and will require you to make a lot of micro-managing your arachnarok spider for maximum charge bonus and fear across their line. I suggest hitting the empire first because their troop quality is a little more on par with the goblins in the early game. You can get a couple of wins against their armies as well as hitting their lightly defended towns for sacking. Move south to hit Nuln and Wissenland if its not too heavily defended. This will be on you to decide if it's worth the attack. Hopefully you won't have already been forced into a war giving you the ability to choose when you want to attack them. If you have a Wagh popped on Skarsnik I've tunneled back over to Karak Norn to finish them. The campaign bonus of -40% to upkeep of goblins is very good. You may think archers are worthless, which they kinda are, but you can always have a 2nd army of pure goblin/goblin archers that's very cheap following Skarsnik's main army. You may be concerned about the Clan Angrund which will be the most aggressive towards Skarsnik because the only way to Eight Peaks is through the dwarves or make an exhausting march around. Several times I've tried different approaches to reach Eight Peaks. I've tried to conquer the land while moving east in order to give me a foothold while not caring about any of the land. This was not a good plan as Clan angrund will sweep in behind, taking your lands, and then have a massive empire. So I try to secure the original location of Karak Norn and the entire province with a single CHEAP goblin army that I move between settlements in the event an enemy army gets too close. Skarsnik and another army will move east and only sack the dwarven lands. Hopefully the amount of fighting will give you enough of a reputation boon with the greenskins and other orc clans to give you a military access deal, so to not suffer rep penalties. Once at Karak Eight Peaks there's usually 2 armies. I've had success with switching both my armies into ambush and managed to pull one out. But it seems the other army is not willing to leave the hold. Basically you have to hit Karak Eight Peaks with both your armies and their Waghs popped. A mistake I've done in the past is Confederating too early. It's not in your best interests to confederate weaker orc tribes until you are setup in Karak Eight Peaks. There will simply be too many different areas to fight at once. Also the majority of other factions will be able to take your newly confederated holdings because A) there's no army there to defend it, and B) If there is an army there it might be too expensive to keep. I forgot to mention this earlier but the army you would leave to defend Karak Norn and that province should be poking into empire territory every now and then. The 4 province empire territory can net you 1,000 gold per turn. It's also a good idea to give this army the raider traits to generate more loot.
@ahmadtarek7763
@ahmadtarek7763 5 лет назад
@@Shpongle64 thanks a lot , much appreciated .
@Hadrexus
@Hadrexus 5 лет назад
Fantastic content, I hope to see you grow soon, it is definitely deserved
@TheBookofChoyer
@TheBookofChoyer 5 лет назад
Thank you Caolho :)
@JohnDoe-zw1hv
@JohnDoe-zw1hv 3 года назад
Superb series on orcs and goblins.
@ToonLinksDair
@ToonLinksDair 5 лет назад
Why aren't Gork and Mork more powerful than the Chaos Gods if they have so many worshippers?
@lucasbeck1391
@lucasbeck1391 4 года назад
They probably are they just don't do all that much
@xx_halkon_xx8936
@xx_halkon_xx8936 5 лет назад
Estalia and Tilea
@ralbornakano5618
@ralbornakano5618 3 года назад
We are waiting for a Beastmen video!
@TheBookofChoyer
@TheBookofChoyer 3 года назад
Its currently in the works my friend :)
@00784865
@00784865 4 года назад
Before i knew this video even exists, i recreated Whurzag as a character for dnd with the exact same backstory. What the fuck?!
@Dimension4music
@Dimension4music 5 лет назад
The narrating, awesome
@TheBookofChoyer
@TheBookofChoyer 5 лет назад
Thanks a lot man! 👐🙏😃
@thescribeinyellow3985
@thescribeinyellow3985 3 года назад
Question: in Warhammer Fantasy, do the Orcs and Goblins use Teef as their main currency, or is that just in 40k?
@neon-lake
@neon-lake 3 года назад
Yes Teef are currency for fantasy orks too
@aa-uq1qj
@aa-uq1qj 3 года назад
I just started a campaign on TW: WH II as Grom The Paunch. How come you didn't mention him?
@SOLDIERRFK
@SOLDIERRFK 4 года назад
Did Grimgor Ironhide ever get his own video?
@TheBookofChoyer
@TheBookofChoyer 4 года назад
Grimgor is the next Legendary Lord I'll be doing my friend! Very excited about that one :)
@Chris-fk6ch
@Chris-fk6ch 5 лет назад
How do they breed? You say there are always more orcs, so where do they come from?
@TheBookofChoyer
@TheBookofChoyer 5 лет назад
Thanks for asking! :) "The Greenskins are hybrids of animal and fungal lifeforms and reproduce by means of spores being continuously released from the Greenskin's body. When these spores take root, the infant greenskin is formed underground and once fully matured, it would dig its way to the surface under the dome of a shriveled mushroom cap." Source: "Skarsnik" by Guy Haley (Novel)
@Chris-fk6ch
@Chris-fk6ch 5 лет назад
Thanks!
@daswordofgork9823
@daswordofgork9823 4 года назад
Weren’t the Orks made by the Old Ones to fight against the Necrontyr?
@grahamdrews9290
@grahamdrews9290 3 года назад
That's 40k, not WHF.
@T-1001
@T-1001 5 лет назад
Awesome
@TheBookofChoyer
@TheBookofChoyer 5 лет назад
Thanks!!
@Cao-Cao-Blue-Army
@Cao-Cao-Blue-Army 4 года назад
Orcs like to wear baggy colourful clothing and drink 40oz on street corners.
@Jiggleton
@Jiggleton 4 года назад
i dont even play this game but this is fun as hell lol
@briceonyoutube7215
@briceonyoutube7215 4 года назад
That was EPIC!
@fumarc4501
@fumarc4501 4 года назад
I prefer Fantasy Goblins to 40K Gretchin. They’re much more diverse, and allows for more talkative Named Characters. Did you know “Fire Kobolds” are a species of Goblin that live in the Southern Molten regions south of the Badlands? So much variety! More then even the Orcs.
@bmorebread8993
@bmorebread8993 2 года назад
What's the relationship between ogres and orcs like?
@thegreatboi8357
@thegreatboi8357 3 года назад
The ork gods are the same person but they don’t know that since the fall of the old ones, the war in heaven. It’s a theory but a valid one. I mean why two ork gods Maybe they were one But we’re cut in half
@toddirvine7086
@toddirvine7086 5 лет назад
Great video! I just subscribed.
@TheBookofChoyer
@TheBookofChoyer 5 лет назад
Welcome to the channel Todd! Hope you enjoy the content!
@Philionaire123
@Philionaire123 5 лет назад
Great Video my friend
@Dickeyj2010
@Dickeyj2010 Год назад
great video
@uchiha_murilo3148
@uchiha_murilo3148 3 года назад
Total Waaagh! is my favorite in the series
@beadb82
@beadb82 5 лет назад
Great video!!
@Amanimaru
@Amanimaru 4 года назад
LOOKS LIKE GREEBO'S ORCS CAMPAIGN IS LIVE ON KICKSTARTER!
@AitorZulaica
@AitorZulaica 4 года назад
Man I love these
@Tony-villa94
@Tony-villa94 4 года назад
So fucking awesome ! I love your vids ! Thank you !
@ryanslack2666
@ryanslack2666 2 года назад
I always somehow find myself playing the Greenskins in Total war games tbh
@deadzone4155
@deadzone4155 3 года назад
Anyone know the music at 5:57?
@jasonfrenz8609
@jasonfrenz8609 5 лет назад
you forgot Grom the ponch the goblin who raided the home of the high elves
@mikeylejan8849
@mikeylejan8849 Год назад
Beastmen versus Greenskins who will win?
@dragonlord908
@dragonlord908 2 года назад
I'm more familiar with the 40k universe. Are they also fungi? Are they less belief makes thing happen and only medieval tech?
@kasparilys4818
@kasparilys4818 2 года назад
commenting for the glorious algorithm yes-yes!
@drakoslayd
@drakoslayd 3 года назад
Spooktober vs Orktober
@morgoth4361
@morgoth4361 5 лет назад
Why is it that a British accent makes a documentary so engrossing?
@TheBookofChoyer
@TheBookofChoyer 5 лет назад
Ikr. It must be some kind of sorcery.
@ksanbahlyngwa1998
@ksanbahlyngwa1998 5 лет назад
Perhaps because its the most original way to speak English.
@TheGreatMoonFrog
@TheGreatMoonFrog 4 года назад
Nice video but I was hoping you'd mention warlords that aren't in Warhammer Total War, like Grom the Paunch and RotGut.
@Michael-kd1ho
@Michael-kd1ho Год назад
Da Godz iz very simple ye gitz - Gork iz brutal but kunnin' an' Mork iz kunnin' but brutal! Eet meanz Mork krumpz gitz upside da 'ead when dey ain' lookin' an' Gork krumps 'em 'arder when dey iz! WAAAGH!
@e.soares215
@e.soares215 5 лет назад
Scheming for the Supreme Leader of Eight Peaks video
@Ghastly_Grinner
@Ghastly_Grinner 4 года назад
*Grom the Paunch*
@hogganarias7141
@hogganarias7141 Год назад
Goblin Slayer: Souka 😎
@MrRajiex
@MrRajiex 5 лет назад
Orc Boar Boys haha.
@patrik9328
@patrik9328 4 года назад
Waaaghh!! I’m Da Boss here! But you are good Ork too
@wojciechgrzybek4122
@wojciechgrzybek4122 2 года назад
More night gobbos plz
@Questington
@Questington 2 года назад
How is there a whole lore video on greenskins without mentioning the fact that they aren't born, but spawn from mushrooms? (also explains why there aren't any female orks)
@MatthewNoPants1atoll
@MatthewNoPants1atoll 5 лет назад
Does the ground shake? Is it shaking?
@krualkrual
@krualkrual 5 лет назад
brilliant
@filipmironov1410
@filipmironov1410 5 лет назад
What about Gorefang Rotgut
@demonicguard9539
@demonicguard9539 5 лет назад
waaagh luigi
@patrik9328
@patrik9328 4 года назад
WAAAAGGH!! Orks rule!
@Quisiio0303456
@Quisiio0303456 2 года назад
Skarsnik episode when?
@bradpara
@bradpara 3 года назад
Old World Warhammer, 40k , Age of Sigmar, Greenskins will always be Greenskins
@auramoonlight6978
@auramoonlight6978 5 лет назад
I've always been wondering why can't the vampire counts raise the Dead greenskins I mean if you think about it no matter how many greenskins you kill there's always more greenskins and the vampire counts need dead bodies to raise new undead armies why can't they just use the dead greenskins? if they could they probably be an unstoppable Force cuz well like I said no matter how many greenskins die there's always more greenskins an unlimited supply of undead Greenskins soldiers for the vampire counts can you explain that to me please I just don't understand it (? 😢?)
@executioner4291
@executioner4291 2 года назад
Could give a link to these mods :/
@Haqua_
@Haqua_ 5 лет назад
Can anyone tell me things about orc/goblin reproduction and biological nature? I mean, in the universe do they have a shorter/longer lifespan than humans or elves? Things like that
@lucasbeck1391
@lucasbeck1391 4 года назад
They are biologically immortal but they usually don't live all that long since they are always fighting Greenskins are part fungi and therefore reproduce asexually via the spores they constantly release all over the place
@bartezbayron3639
@bartezbayron3639 5 лет назад
15 925 views (at the time when I am writing a comment) and only 7.8 thousand subscriptions and only 624 people - people what is wrong with you?
@thegametroll6264
@thegametroll6264 3 года назад
we is da best! WAAAAAGH! DA ORCS!
@DerGruenlingGer
@DerGruenlingGer 5 лет назад
Did i missed the video about Grimgore Ironhide somehow?
@TheBookofChoyer
@TheBookofChoyer 5 лет назад
Hi Noah! Nope... You haven´t missed it. I´m planning on doing that one soonish
@DerGruenlingGer
@DerGruenlingGer 5 лет назад
@@TheBookofChoyer I am glad to hear that
@Shenrai96
@Shenrai96 4 года назад
Did I miss the part that he explains that the greenskins are plants?
@WASBAN
@WASBAN 2 года назад
Some know where i can Learn more about wh history
@nickbuchowisch7396
@nickbuchowisch7396 5 лет назад
Waaaaaagh!
@texangoat6882
@texangoat6882 5 лет назад
yee
@TheBookofChoyer
@TheBookofChoyer 5 лет назад
Texan Goat ✊🏼😀 thanks GOAT!
@paklos
@paklos 4 года назад
Give us new Warhammer MMO
@rogueraven1333
@rogueraven1333 5 лет назад
Nice 👍
@tazzioboca
@tazzioboca 3 года назад
Did the humans and elves kill all the female and baby greenskins?
@BOBJOELION
@BOBJOELION 5 лет назад
Can a human lead a waaagh?
@lucasbeck1391
@lucasbeck1391 4 года назад
No the greenskins will only ever listen to other larger greenskins
@jhulvincentcalabia4784
@jhulvincentcalabia4784 4 года назад
You Disappointed me Archaon you magic wielding coward!
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh
@JamesLaserpimpWalsh 4 года назад
Gork tattoos on right knuckles and Mork on left. The only way for trendy, sensitive modern hipster Ork boyz. ALSO NOT ORC....ORK ! Warhammer orks are different from Tolkien orcs.
@hughgedney3393
@hughgedney3393 4 года назад
@James Walsh I agree with you, and oh yes very different than Tolkien's orcs.
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