Warhammer the OLD WORLD - Units Types and Formations explained in detail - how Skirmishers work! 

This is the best video yet. Magic items are cool, but this video informs me on how to make an army list.

For skirmishers I think - going by the spirit of the rules at least - it should be defined as the chargers need to pivot so that the centre of their unit is facing towards the closest enemy skirmisher (or the rough centre of the skirmishing unit). Once that's done, then they move forwards and initiate contact. That makes the most sense to me.

12:10 that one i think need to look in Qand A / erratas for game

Very informative again, thankyou!

So this is a bit late but I think I have an answer for why the image shows the unit charging the skirmishers like it does. Moving directly towards or away from a unit is the centre of your unit towards the model in question (pg 92). If you have to move directly to the closest enemy then the image works as the centre of the ranked unit is what hits the closest skirmisher.

Thank you for making this series. Really helpful and it is clear you put in a lot of work.

Good stuff! It's interesting now that people are getting to thrash out the rules. I'm guessing that skirmishers should be allowed to march (double move)? I can't see why they shouldn't but I can't see it mentioned anywhere in the rules.

Great recap of the rules! Regarding heroes mounted on monstrous cavalry, can they join a unit of non-monstrous? The rules only specifies the other way around: monstrous can be joind only by monstrous. The same is applied for regular infantry or cavalry?

Terradons are skirmishers. Can they march 30 inchs? If so would you mind sharing the rules that allow this? Also, is close order a default formation and would you mind sharing more information on formations and how you go in and out of them and who can adopt a certain formation? thanks for all the videos they are very informative.

Cheers bru ,great breakdown .3 more weeks till release and i'm super keen to play a game.

Great video!

I think your interpretation of the the Charge wheel may be off. Referencing page 126: "However, a charging unit must endeavour to bring the maximum number of models from both sides into base contact, which will often require some degree of manoeuvre. To facilitate this, a charging unit may wheel once, at any point, during its move" I feel the intended way to interpret the sentence is "A Unit can wheel once during charge. We've allowed this to facilitate maximizing the number of models that end in base contact after a charge, but you may wheel even if it doesn't necessarily increase the maximum number of models in base contact" And I believe graphic 186.3 supports that interpretation. Just makes more sense to me anyway.

A question About skirmishers, if i put a unit behind my skirmisher unit,the opponent can shoot my unit behind? If yes , its considered hard cover(-2 to hit)? Thx :)

In the skirmish diagram - maybe the reason why they performed the wheel was to maximize the attacks. Didn't you say that is the normal way you line up the charge. So basically you ignore everything except closest model - maximize you models in base to base, then after the charger is aligned - you rank up the skirmishers using the same thought process.

Great work mate. Another Q for you: If a Skink Chief (#appropriateusername) rides a Stegadon mount, is the Giant Bow fired at the BS of the Skink Chief or the other skinks in the Howdah?

Do skirmishers ignore march block?

Good Video. I have a question. We Know that a Unit can adopt only Formation in his Special Rule. Now. We Know that a Close Order Formation is composed of 2 or MORE model in Ranks and Files. Well. Dragon Ogre can only adopt Close Order, but if i want i can also purchase just one 1 Dragon Ogre. So what Formation will the Dragon Ogre have? I Remember that He is not a Chariot, he is not a Monster, he is not a Character...

Great stuff. What is Dispersed? How is that different than Skirmish?

I think with the wheeling to charge a skirmishing unit you would still want to wheel to find the face of the model you are charging otherwise the charged unit would be half the unit would be miss aliened

Hmm. Regular infantry can shoot over "swarms", but my Monstrous Infantry Ogre Leadbelchers still can't shoot over tiny Gnoblars because they are regular infantry and only have the "Largely Insignificant" special rule. Not swarms, so not "Insifnifcant".

So i guess a unit of 19 ironbreakers 4 models in rank, makes 4 full ranks and incomplete 5th is considered in fighting formation? Thx for the content, i feal u gave us allmost all whats needed to imagine the edition, a few more hours and we got this.

If you are in a Marching Column, but lose enough models to no longer be deeper than wide, do you automatically change to Combat Order?

Can a character on a monstrous mount join monstrous infantry because they share the clumsy rule? For example if you wanted a chaos sorcerer to join some ogres?

Any update on the charging skirmishes?

Not the best diagram I think, the wheel to maximise didn’t need to happen (because skirmishes will form up anyway) But because of “After moving, a unit that charged must ensure that it is aligned against the charge target.” They would have to use their free line up wheel (close the door) to line up against the contacted Skirmisher, before the rest of the skirmishes move in. So they would end up in the positions shown in the diagram. Skirmisher player gets to determine the overrun angle through their positioning of closest model and angle, not the charging player.

So a unit of 25 infantry (5X5) will keep its rank bonus but not a unit of 30 (5X6) ? That's a little bit silly for my skavens...

ok, Pegasus Knights have dispersed ranks, skirmishers and also the special rule Lance Formation. But isnt Lance Formation a Close Order formation?

Beastmen Chieftains can be put at 25mm or 30mm bases, but because of the subtype is heavy infantry it cannot join any 25mm base units ;)

If you charge a war machine do you lose all charging bonus (ranks flags ect)

Lance formation???

Skirmishers block line of sight?! Ahhhhh. I guess that makes sense. booo @GW please reconsider: Skirmishers should be able to disrupt enemy ranks if they are high enough Unit Strength. Losing disruption doesn't make sense to me. It's still really hard to flank for skirmishers. Chariots, cavalry, and even men for example should be able to skirmish and disrupt formations if high enough strength. Isn't Skirmishers losing the rank bonus a strong enough disincentive? This feels especially true since they need to rank up to no effect or value in melee rather than wrapping around like a rank and file. How difficult is it to switch in and out of skirmish into lance or open order formation? Is that a thing for units with multiple formation options? @GW should also consider using the highest WS to use as the defending Weapon Skill for cavalry and howdahs. Just makes sense to me that a good mount would help keep it's rider safe. I like how the charge should be directed towards the center of mass of the enemy skirmishing unit. This is much more realistic than other options. Obviously, terrain could effect what you can reach and cause players to discuss a amicable resolution such as targeting as close as possible with a legal move. You cannot charge through impassable terrain for instance, but if an enemy skirmisher is in range you should still get your charge ad be as close to facing center as possible without performing an illegal or unrealistic move. Russ thank you for sharing the rules with us!