I'm not sold on their dots, but I was sold on my warhorse 5-25 precision scopes. The absolute best quality for the best price. Being active military helped with the price too. Swampfox may be out of Colorado, but they're all about their American customers baby and protest against tyrannical state legislation.
@@SwampfoxOpticsI'm getting tired of waiting, I'm starting to think there will never be a 1-8, I think I'm going to just get the MSR tango at this point. Ive been waiting 6 months
I will order the Warhorse once the x8 and x10 are available. I don't like 1x6 LPVOs, I rather use an EOTech 3-2 with an x5 magnifier instead. An EOTECH 3-2 will give you an overall better performance for night vision, CQB, close/mid-range shooting. A 1x6 LPVO performs his best at x5/x6 magnification (as long as the reticle is pretty good)? at that point I would rather use a FFP x8/x10 LPVO instead.
Red dots/holographics and magnifiers have their place, but there's no question that a good 1-6 has way more capability at distance than a magnified dot. 1-10s also have some major intrinsic compromises that 1-6's lack.
@@jackwicker 1x8 seems to be the sweet spot for LPVOs, look at the Marines with the VCOG and USSOCOM with the Nightforce 1x8 ATACR. If I'm wrong, feel free to tell me why should I pick a 1x6?
@@lastmanstandingtactical it really depends on application. As you get a taller erector ratio, your exit pupil will shrink and you'll get a tighter eyebox. Yes, you get more magnification, but it gets harder to use the entire range of magnification. 1x performance suffers, etc. Also, having a first focal plane reticle that is usable on 1x and 8x/10x is pretty tough. Higher magnification LPVOs are also heavier, and they aren't as good as a dedicated medium profile variable optic for long range stuff, since they have a fixed parallax setting and the aforementioned eyebox issues. You also get worse optical performance for your money at any given price point with a higher magnification lpvo. For 600 yards and in, unless I'm spending $1200 or more, I would much rather have a 1-6x than a 1-8x or 1-10x. After that point in price, I'd consider something like a plxc 1-8x or an ATACR 1-8x. Even then, if the majority of my shooting were 200 yards and in, I'd rather have a super bougie 1-6x like a swarovski than an equivalently priced 1-8x. I would only ever consider a 1-10x for super niche applications such as a dedicated Quantified Performance general purpose division competition rifle.
I really wish SFP scopes would just go away as they make no sense if you have a ranging reticle with bullet drops that are only accurate at max magnification. Maybe this would lead to over price savings since manufacturing costs are kept down, can't wait for the 1x8 to come out as 1x6 is really the bare minimum these days unless. A model similar to Vortex 2x10 with a 32mm objective lens or Atibal with a 35mm objective lens would a be a great compact product for short to medium range.
I bought the Swampfox Warhorse to put on my wife's rifle about 6 months ago. This past weekend, we went to our mountain property with family to ket my daughter try her new 4 wheeler and to just get away from everything. We started doing some "range activities" on one of our open fields when I used her rifle and realized you have to adjust the diopter to clean up the focus when going in between magnification levels. Is this normal for swampfox optics? My Sig and Vortex do not require this.🤷🏻
@SwampfoxOptics it's normal that I have to adjust the diopter every single time I change magnification? Even if I'm just going back and forth between 6x magnification and 2x magnification? I just wanted to make sure, my other LPVOs are not like that. Also, just in case anyone else is trying to do this I was able to fabricate something that allows me to attach the primary arms Auto live battery cap to the war horse. It works flawlessly👍
@SwampfoxOptics thanks for getting back to me👍, I'll definitely send an email to hopefully get the diopter issue resolved. Other then that I do like the scope, so if Swampfox can resolve the issue, it may end up purchasing a higher magnification Swampfox scope to put on a 22 Arc build that I'm about to finish up. 🤔
@SwampfoxOptics I would love to have a Swampfox LPVO. I just cannot seem to win one, no matter how hard I try. I say that because, I cannot afford one any other way, especially thanks to being a poor on a low, low fixed income, and "Bidenomics" destroying the American Dollar raising the economy so high people cant even afford food and utilities!
