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Warning - Don't Buy These Watches (Before You See This) 

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Buying watches means owning the Rolex Submariner, Omega Speedmaster, or Patek Philippe Nautilus of your dreams. But too many watch collectors make the same mistakes each time they shop and spend on their next watches. Tonight, Tim Mosso explains how to avoid common mistakes often encountered when buying luxury watches.
The biggest mistake when buying watches is assuming that all watch collections start with cheap watches and brands before progressing to more expensive watches. In other words, you start with Casio, move up to a mechanical Seiko, graduate to a luxury-level TAG Heuer, and then buy a Rolex Daytona to cap the collection. Others will stay within a brand but move from something like an Omega Seamaster Diver 300M to a Central Tourbillon over a period of year -- with the assumption of intermediate priced models purchased in the meantime.
Tim Mosso believes that this assumption is flawed. For example, many watch collections begin with Tudor, but there's no requirement that a collector move "up" from Tudor to its owner's senior brand, Rolex. While Rolex watches are excellent, Tudor watches are a lifelong collection theme by themselves. Modern watches like the Tudor Black Bay, Pelagos, and Ranger can be worn in any attire, for any activity, and in any company. Broad collections can delve into vintage Tudor watches such as the Advisor alarm, Tudor Submariners, and Big Block chronographs.
A similar fallacy often arises when collectors decide how to progress within a brand. Most brands occupy well-defined price points in the market, but some like IWC, Rolex, Omega, and Jaeger-LeCoultre offer watches that range from under $10,000 to well over $100,000. When this is the case, it may seem that the natural path of a watch collector is to start with, say, an Oyster Perpetual and progress towards a Platinum Daytona as life and professional circumstances permit. But why couldn't a person just build an entire collection of steel Datejusts and Oyster Perpetuals?
For that matter, a huge range of Jaeger LeCoultre Reverso, Master, and Polaris models can be purchased used for under $10,000, so why would a watch collector feel obligated to pay $50,000 for a Duometre or over $100,000 for a minute repeater? Sometimes, it's more fun to own a broad portfolio of mid-priced watches that can be worn without the stress and caution of profoundly expensive watches.
All of this plus live discussion and watch collector wrist shots appears tonight on "Watches Tonight!"
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@dannysimenauer5745
@dannysimenauer5745 3 месяца назад
Tim makes excellent points. My 3 rules of watch collecting: 1. Everyone's watch collecting journey is like their fingerprints-- unique! Buy what you like, and like to wear. Watches should never be purchased as "an investment" (very few are). Never violate rule #2 below. 2. Never spend money you don't have nor finance your next watch. Priority spending is always for putting a roof over your head and feeding the family first. 3. Enjoy this maddening hobby. There are no mistakes, just your ever changing tastes.
@the1916company
@the1916company 3 месяца назад
Thanks Danny! Best, Tim
@highwaystar3780
@highwaystar3780 Месяц назад
3 Rules before Starting a Watch collecting journey.... 1. You're a Mental Case who needs help. 2. You're a mental case who needs help. 3. You're a mental case who needs help.
@Melontheyoutuber
@Melontheyoutuber 3 месяца назад
All these dudes asking Tim which watch to purchase cmon guys live for yourself. Sad.
@GEMSofGOD_com
@GEMSofGOD_com 3 месяца назад
Buy this or any watch
@andreichernev1880
@andreichernev1880 3 месяца назад
Thank you, Tim, you are a fantastic ambassador and your thoughts are deeply appreciated
@highwaystar3780
@highwaystar3780 Месяц назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@AbdulRWatches
@AbdulRWatches 3 месяца назад
Thanks Tim for the great show, with watch buying had to learn the lesson the hard way one way or another. Yes, this year was the hottest one recorded. 52-53C but feels like 55C, definitely the hottest weather I ever experienced.
@the1916company
@the1916company 3 месяца назад
Glad you made it back. I saw the headlines about the heat, the people who succumbed, and I was worried. Best, Tim
@AbdulRWatches
@AbdulRWatches 3 месяца назад
@@the1916company Glad I made it back, I tried my best to avoid going out in the hottest time of day, but somedays we had to perform the Hajj rituals in the morning times. All in all it was a enriching experience of how fragile we are, and at the same time how can people be united at the same time, place and and goal.
@mdo5121
@mdo5121 3 месяца назад
I OWNED Invicta's...a gateway drug from shopping on T.V. cable to a Moser. lol
@the1916company
@the1916company 3 месяца назад
The Invicta informercial is extremely entertaining one way or another. Now I'm wondering, what in heaven's name is on the Invicta cruise? How much programming/tailoring can they possibly imagine for a whole week on a ship? Best, Tim
@highwaystar3780
@highwaystar3780 Месяц назад
A Invicta Watch tells the Same exact time as Any Other watch Cost No Object. Did u guys know that?
@pavanbharteey7269
@pavanbharteey7269 3 месяца назад
Wish you would have done this one about 4 years ago…🤦🏻
@Joe-xo3xy
@Joe-xo3xy 3 месяца назад
Watch collectors become paranoid when cheaper watches start getting thrown in with expensive ones; The other day, I picked up my first Casio, a beige calculator watch that looked like an apple watch, cost under $40, it turned out to be the best cost vs return ratio in watch collecting I have experienced. It comes to a point watch collecting can make you very nerdy, I was out and about asking all the tech wizards about the possibility of owning an apple watch zero and the verdict was negative. The point is, it does not have to be up the ladder as Tim pointed, there is value and collectability at all price points. Too much of a particular anything in watch collecting is bad.
@larslofgren4174
@larslofgren4174 3 месяца назад
Best video yet, great thoughts on the collection journey!
@the1916company
@the1916company 3 месяца назад
Thank you for this kind feedback! Best, Tim
@larslofgren4174
@larslofgren4174 3 месяца назад
@@the1916company This really spoke to me as I tend to not branch out much and inspired me to look outside of what I normally wear. thanks
@joesteve3299
@joesteve3299 3 месяца назад
This was one of your best Tim! Thanks for the great show
@the1916company
@the1916company 3 месяца назад
Wow, thanks for that! I had no idea it made such an impression. My only goal is to entertain. Best, Tim
@localheroEd
@localheroEd 3 месяца назад
Goal surpassed! You educate as well as entertain. Please don’t stop!
@rain3304
@rain3304 3 месяца назад
really enjoy your show Tim live long and prosper
@petrokersta5293
@petrokersta5293 3 месяца назад
One way to avoid mistakes is education. Educate yourself on watches. It has never been easier. Invest time before you spend money. Get yourself exposed to as many watches as possible. Be open minded. Our tastes our acquired and tend to change with time. Wear and enjoy your watches. If they bring a smile to your face you’ve got the right ones for you. Don’t forget that this hobby is as much about people as it’s about watches. It’s a lot more fun to share your passion with likeminded people. Don’t take it too seriously and enjoy the journey. Cheers!
@highwaystar3780
@highwaystar3780 Месяц назад
How is Wasting money on Junk that tell time and will be laying in a drawer 99.999999999% of a persons lifetime..a Hobby??
@mdo5121
@mdo5121 3 месяца назад
THANKS FOR THE CLASS...A LOT OF INFO THERE
@Docmeff1
@Docmeff1 3 месяца назад
Tim gives wonderful advice. I'm in the Omega and Rolex (mostly Omega) financial capability range and I still get excited buying a watch like the Citizen Tiffany blue dial tsuyoah watch for $350 I got this weekend. Buying what you cam afford is fun. Buying what you can't is anxiety.
@TravisNewYork
@TravisNewYork 3 месяца назад
Tim, do you know anything about "massena" watches, and if the answer is yes, can you share your thoughts? Thanks
@the1916company
@the1916company 3 месяца назад
They come from a few different constructors at a few different price points. Check out my podcast with William that went into more depth about the brand and its watches. You can probably find it by googling "Tim Mosso podcast." I'll get the series going again soon. Best, Tim
@TravisNewYork
@TravisNewYork 3 месяца назад
​@@the1916company I just watched the podcast and realized how silly was the question "do you know anything about massena watches". You are a big Tim, bigger than we know and maybe bigger then you think about yourself.
@tomasinacovell4293
@tomasinacovell4293 3 месяца назад
If you're going to wear nice dress watches, make sure you're not photographed with the strap's floating keeper out of place!
@Sayed_Baqer
@Sayed_Baqer 3 месяца назад
Please Tim, stay away from click baits, your content is more worthy than a catchy title
@localheroEd
@localheroEd 3 месяца назад
Wise words Tim. Contentment is achieved through wanting less, not having more.
@jorgsofi
@jorgsofi 3 месяца назад
My collection is all Oris watches. I started with Oris and will likely end with Oris. No desire for anything else at the moment. I’m very satisfied.
@the1916companywatchreviews
@the1916companywatchreviews 3 месяца назад
That's awesome! I'm glad you found such a lasting solution on the first try. Some guys accumulate 40 watches before they figure out what satisfies. Best, Tim
@logwind
@logwind 3 месяца назад
Always like hearing your candor Tim.
@JamesCarian
@JamesCarian 3 месяца назад
Tim, there is so much truth to these thoughts you've shared about collecting strategy. I have certainly went down a few of these mistaken paths over the time. I tend to always come back to, what attracts you to the brand, and then how will the function fit into your life (and collection). Also! Love the mention of the FC Monolithic, I have been eyeing that piece recently...what an amazing technology at such an affordable price point. Take that, Spring Drive! Honorable mention goes to Agent Smith. #FindSomethingYouDidntKnowExisted Cheers!
@watchrunner80
@watchrunner80 3 месяца назад
Instead of looking at watch collecting as a ladder to climb maybe look at as an elevator with multiple floors from bargain basement to penthouse luxury for you to hop on and off 🤔
@MrPolowu
@MrPolowu 3 месяца назад
Thank you Tim & team
@BenTramer
@BenTramer 3 месяца назад
Tim, what's the content you "advanced past"? Was loving this show and didn't want it to end.
@the1916company
@the1916company 3 месяца назад
I had some more granular thoughts to share about the last few topics, but it worked out. I managed to touch on them without getting too involved. Best, Tim
@StuMacher96
@StuMacher96 3 месяца назад
@@the1916company Give us the granular thoughts, please!
@user-fy2vz3tu9x
@user-fy2vz3tu9x 3 месяца назад
Mr. Roboto .... STYX... btw are you related with Leonard Nimoy of Star Trek?
@Joe-xo3xy
@Joe-xo3xy 3 месяца назад
I think after Tim saw that Vacheron collection, JLC immediately came back to his mind; Hey Tim, it looks great but it can also be a curse, I have a little bit of experience in mono brand collection. Mono brand collections become a burden to your finances eventually as well as a burden to watch collecting as a whole. It is rewarding but eventually, I think it will take its toll on you and I am sure that is what happened to you. A nice topic for another day.
@HelgeKS
@HelgeKS 3 месяца назад
My main "rules" for watch collection: a) stick to one theme at a time (for me geography) and b) remember you have a family. I've just done Norwegian microbrands and now concentrate on Pforzheim based watches. Great fun and great value for money. (....and I'm still married.)
@etebol
@etebol 3 месяца назад
I see the Atowak clock in the background!!! Nice.
@the1916company
@the1916company 3 месяца назад
This one is a Pure Nixie Clock 6 from Dalibor Farny. Best, Tim
@michaelstoyanov339
@michaelstoyanov339 3 месяца назад
I get some of the points but personally: I would rather own One Duometre then Ten Polaris watches and One Day Date then Ten Datejusts that is just me and this is how I build my collection. Focus on grail pieces and get them at the expense of having a much smaller collection. Cheers
@waynechau9884
@waynechau9884 3 месяца назад
The ladder approach is never the way to go in any collection. The very first watch that I purchased with my own hard earned money is a patek. Many years and many watches later, I can firmly say that I’m as happy when I got my seiko 5 as when I got my very first Patek. In terms of price, my only considerations are whether I can afford it without stretching and whether the price tag matches the quality. My only problem is that I’m having great difficulty parting with my timepieces - not only because the dealer wants me to wear my nautilus to pick up the new aquanaut 😂😂😂
@vdbdg
@vdbdg 3 месяца назад
Perhaps your most thoughtful and thought-provoking show so far, articulating the uneasy feeling many collectors who started buying watches less than 10 years ago must be feeling.
@the1916company
@the1916company 3 месяца назад
I try to stay in touch with that. It's a bigger responsibility for me to get newcomers started in the hobby than to advise a guy with limitless money about what his eighth Journe should be. Best, Tim
@jesseseiko
@jesseseiko 3 месяца назад
Love the bit about collecting seiko. Felt like you were directly to me, even though I know I will find myself with some grand seiko and king seiko in the future
@LetsPlayThru
@LetsPlayThru 3 месяца назад
Sage advice, Tim!
@TheWinterist
@TheWinterist 3 месяца назад
Sorry I missed this live, thank you for another great show even if you're tired! I really struggle with watch collecting thesis, I want to wear my watches, so I can't buy a lot of them, I think in general I just need to slow down and spend more time enjoying shows like these.
@midlane757
@midlane757 3 месяца назад
Phenomenonal points being made, and definitely something I'm finding personally.
@rjblue42
@rjblue42 3 месяца назад
Sorry I missed the live, Tim, and couldn't add to the concurrent audience. Great show, as usual!
@the1916companywatchreviews
@the1916companywatchreviews 3 месяца назад
Your views still count! Best, Tim
@craigriley9892
@craigriley9892 3 месяца назад
I used to fall asleep to Invicta infomercials. I needed something to listen to, while not needing to watch the tv.
@kevinc1001
@kevinc1001 3 месяца назад
I've been buying Invicta watches on and off for several years, most who buy them have an odd taste. No other company can make a watch with chains and gets away with it.
@BAF605
@BAF605 3 месяца назад
To hear Tim say he likes The Beach Boys made my day but it's what I would have expected.
@FirestormAA
@FirestormAA 3 месяца назад
Mark S VC collections is insane!!!!! Fwooooo!!!!!
@billmedic1995
@billmedic1995 3 месяца назад
Back in the early 2000s, I also grew a nice Invicta collection courtesy of Shop NBC. I still have those five pieces (including an Object de Art with a vintage Unitas movement) 24 years later, and I still wear them in rotation along with everything else in my 80 piece collection, and with enjoyment! They were part of my watch collecting education and experience. I still don't understand why they get the criticism they do...The four Pro Divers use Seiko movements and are 200m waterproof, just like many other divers on the market. I’ve never had any of them serviced, and the all are running perfectly. Not regrets here at all.
@mdo5121
@mdo5121 3 месяца назад
I hear you....those Friday nights were fun but expensive to this newbie with their buy now pay later....the other brand was Renato which I bought and that the network pushed. ouch ...50 mm were the average size of the Invictas...tell me how did they sell Tourbillons at such cheap prices.
@Luminoso72
@Luminoso72 3 месяца назад
i can‘t still get over the fact that this voice actually has a face…
@localheroEd
@localheroEd 3 месяца назад
You can be an enthusiast without being a collector. Knowledge is free and Tim’s dishing it out regularly so listen up.
@Jasian01
@Jasian01 3 месяца назад
Love the show
@rolfo8601
@rolfo8601 3 месяца назад
🫡
@Conancobretti
@Conancobretti 3 месяца назад
I've been collecting watches for 14 years now, going back to this passion at 27 after a strong love for watches as a child. i don't have endless possibilities but even if I was richer, I would never buy just to make a statement. what I love about this hobby is that It gives you endless possibilities to find hidden gems and to fall in love with brands not so common or sought after,but still full of quality and value. My next purchase will be a IWC Ingenieur chronograph Racer 378510 that I found NOS at a AD here in Italy, sold with its original strap too with a huge discount, more than 50% on the 2013 retail price, really a well made watch, for less money than a new Longines chrono (with all the due respect, but you know what I'm saying)..tons of quality and a great value for money, that's what I love most! It's easy to buy a GMT on the grey market or a RO and to be "cool"...but the real personal evolution of this hobby to me is in the discover of new things, maybe for a lower price but with a huge value for money. Thanx for ur deep knowledge and passion Tim and for the help you give us to know more about this crazy and beautifuk world reviewing watches otherwise impossible to experience for us common guys. You really are a Watch head, all about passion, it's easy to see. Greetings from Turin, Italy!❤
@GEMSofGOD_com
@GEMSofGOD_com 3 месяца назад
There's chickpea pizza with tomato peppers, mushroome color white (pretty much any), etc. I think I made Kyle McLachlan a big lover of chickpea pizza
@GEMSofGOD_com
@GEMSofGOD_com 3 месяца назад
I own like 60 watches and I tend to realize that I love... Seiko and... Omega. And Swatch. More than anything. Money feels the opposite of what matters here.
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