WARNING: This COMMON Toxin in Manure Will DESTROY Your Garden! 

That is messed up.

Wow!!!! This sounds familiar. VAX ANYBODY????

@@stevefowler3398 Bingo

@@davidthegood Dow was being resopnsible. Few users of ag products are responsible. If you buy hay for gardening use always ask the feed store or farmer what was used on it. When I took the organic gardening class at Urban Harvest back in the 90's this was an issue that was covered. On the other hand Dow Chemical was being run down for Agent Orange which they supplied for the Vietnam war. Their product did not contain carcinogic dioxins. Nevertheless the Democrat controlled Congress wrote legislation that bought dioxin containing herbicides then supported those leftist groups that collected $175 million from Dow Chemical. Fast forward, who controlled the funding of the VAX? Who demanded we take an experimental vax without the ability to sue for harm. Pfizer alone had 40,000+ unintended incidents in only the first two months after release of its product.

It’s amazing, we live in a country where Congress is happy to let rich assho|es sell Literal Suicide And Death to people and it’s okay because they used all the right legal disclaimers.

We were discussing this earlier tonight and we too decided to simply stop getting hay or manure (or compost or soil or clippings or even leaves) from anywhere outside our own property. You just can't trust it. Food scraps from a restaurant? No thanks, I'll be skipping that idea. It sucks because our soil is heavy clay, it's only about 18" deep before you hit solid rock, and therefore we need all the organic matter we can get. But we'll just have to build it up with roots and soil biology etc alone, and we'll just have to be a little more patient. The good news is, we'll spend less cash this way.

@@dogslobbergardens6606 can you find a like-minded friend and share resources?

@@MarySmith-ry9cu I do know one local farmer who doesn't use herbicides at all, he just didn't have any hay ready yet. So I'll probably call him again later this year. But I still feel it's important to rely as little on possible on anyone else, whenever possible. For all sorts of reasons.

We all need to keep blowing our horns and warning anyone who will listen! I'm also in Florida - North Panhandle, Zone 8b, and I do my best to keep my small homestead clean and sustainable. Another friend has a very large organic vegetable farm operation where I can sometimes get small loads of horse manure that are safe. So sad that we just can't go to a farmer and buy truck loads of "farm fertilizer" like we used too!

@@dogslobbergardens6606 if cardboard is OK, I'll tell you my solution for clay, years ago in the heavy rain I dug slop holes where I wanted to plant... Just really muddy puddled areas I took a shovel to digging as needed then shoving tons of ripped up cardboard and compost, even old tore up clothes until I was content then on top did cardboard gardening and leaves, lots of leaves and it turned into awesome soil. I'm still working on it as I couldn't garden last year for my medical issues but the ground looks good and stuff grew last year though I didn't plant lol God is so good to me. God bless and keep you.

I am really sorry

I bought straw from a nearby farmer & went to his farm to pick it up. We used it as mulch for the garden, esp strawberries & garlic. All plants died. I no longer have his phone # to tell him about my experience. He knew I planned to use in garden & he didn't volunteer any info about straw. I bought several bales & didn't use the remainder. Is it safe to use as animal bedding?

Did you have the soil or compost tested? I am reminded of "You shall plant, but not harvest" in Micah 6.

@@cherylkygirl7181I would go so far as to say that no industrial herbicides or pesticides are safe to be in contact with for any living things.

Nasty that it's in there.

That's how I feel. Everything is against us. But now we know. And if more people speak out. And share there stories. We can learn how to fight back.

Yes, knowledge is power. Thank you David, and every one who takes the time to write in the comments. Its really honestly all we have .. each other

I am so glad ❤️ you are getting your soil back. I am going to make a container garden this year. Studying all I can to do a better job of it than I did the last time I tried. 😊 ❤️

I am glad you stopped. So sorry about the garden, though.

Thanks for sharing

Wish we could put your comment up when unbelievers start telling new gardeners not to worry about it.

@@SouthFloridaSunshine Inner City Rich Guy: Dont worry about it, just keep buying it and you’ll be fine. What? Yeah I own 5% shares in the companies stock, what’s that got to do with anything?

Any animal manure is really good to use when it's already dry and soil-like ready to avoid injuring the plants.

That is really kind of you, Jen.

Mine too...using straw or hay (cant remember which! Haha)

Glad I found this I was actually thinking about going around to some local farms and asking about the manure guess I'll be holding off in that.

I just got it from multipurpose compost/potting soil. Apart from saying it contains a small amount of peat, the packaging and manufacturer's website won't even mention what the bag contains - I wonder why!

What did it do to your garden?

@@melvinrexwinkle1510 it killed the sensitive plants (tomatoes, beans, peas) Stunted growth, twisting leaves, distorted growth patterns

Praying to God that someone in Congress will approve of and support a class action lawsuit against Death Dealers like Monsanto and Co.

@@clashtwo5066 asking congress to hold billion dollar companies responsible for their actions is like asking a drug addict to rat out their plug.

They’ve been doing that regularly for decades. They get it from feed lots and such where the animals are fed and don’t graze.

Farmers spread manure on their land every year and have been for a long time!

​@@clashtwo5066Monsanto was sold five years ago. It doesn't exist anymore. But it's good to see that the Boogeyman still scares you

Yikes. Long live organic solutions.

@@TheEmbrio Absolutely right. EVENTUALLY mother nature will break down these persistent herbicides. In the meantime, we should simply avoid them as much as we possibly can. If I had my way they'd be banned outright.

Yeah, this crap almost feels intentional to me. If the our ability to grow our own food is eliminated, then they who control the food control the people.

@@johndyer9232 I hate to sound paranoid, but.... yeah. I often think about that sort of thing myself.

someone should be hung for this invention and its use

I'm now starting to wish I'd gone around the neighbourhood last year collecting leaves!

We need legislation on this. I do realise that $$$$$$ are going to be involved of course.

You were right to stick to your observations.

💯% spot on, @Robert Johnson! To make the math easier, 500 days full-life = 1,000 days = ~ 3 years! It should be a crime for aminopyralids to end up in for sale products.

I can appreciate that feeling. I've been there as well. However, you don't have to be paranoid anymore. Look up how to do an herbicide bioassay. There's instructions with photos all over. It's super simple, and I've found that it really has put my mind at ease to test each bag of compost before using it. I used beans & chia seeds from the pantry as my seed for the bioassays, and sunflower seeds I grew 2 years ago - so basically zero cost for 100% certainty. I hope this helps!

@@lisakukla459 yes, bioassays are absolutely imperative if you bring in compost etc. But then what the heck do you do with it, if it turns out to be contaminated? That's a whole other ball of wax. I really don't think we want this poison dumped into landfills... and if you pile it up on your own place to let it compost for a couple years, it's almost guaranteed to be seeping into your water table.

@@dogslobbergardens6606 I agree. I don't think I'd buy yards of anything unless I could test it first before committing. Last year when I got hit with it, I didn't have the heart to throw out such a huge amount of brand new potting mix that I'd just mixed up by hand (by tarp, rather). I read that it's highly mobile in water, and there's a few ways to destroy it, like in a shallow kiddie pool with clear water, with soil microbes, etc. I think for a farm-scale situation it'd be different, but a one-off instance with a home gardener, I'm fairly certain that the soil microbes would take care of it before it reached the water table. I ended up checking out a local hydroponics shop nearby where I got three 30gal fabric pots and a box of a product called Bio-Live. I set up the fabric pots on a gravel pad, where any leachate/runoff wouldn't trickle over to my other patio containers, and layered the Bio-Live as I filled. I planted them up with onions and garlic chives, and watered them extra thoroughly and frequently, trying to flush the herbicide out. After I pulled the onions, I stuck in some random stuff, just to check the progress. Sweet potato and melon, and something else I can't remember. They all did fantastic. I ended up with a paper grocery bag 2/3 full of purple sweet potato, actually, and 4 delicious melons. If I had a homestead or a proper in-ground garden, I doubt I would have done it that way, but I'm currently living in an RV park with nothing but concrete and Bermuda around. My perennial patio plants that got hit before I realized anything was contaminated grew really stretched out and floppy all season, but they seem to be growing back nice and compact so far. I was very lucky to have learned this lesson with just a small container garden, and not one of the in-ground gardens I was putting in in friend's yards. I read so many stories of other people getting absolutely devastated by this nasty stuff. To my knowledge, Vermont is still the only state to have banned the use of this class of herbicide, but given the massively increased demand for manure this year, due to the current fertilizer shortages, I think we may start seeing more legislation soon. There's bound to be some farms that get impacted. Won't do us any favors with the high cost of food, but I'm trying to stay hopeful that the long game will turn out in our favor.

@@lisakukla459 thank you for sharing that experience, it's very interesting! I'm sure glad it worked out for you. I err on the side of extreme caution with this stuff, because the studies I've read show it causes a lot of damage in TINY concentrations, as in a couple parts per billion. I would like to see it banned outright, but I'm not super confident that will happen. I'm never very confident in gov't doing the right thing lol.

@@dogslobbergardens6606 Yes, I'm also generally not confident in the government doing the right thing, but we've seen time and time again that nothing pushes legislation faster than giant corporations losing money. With the fert shortage now leading to waiting lists for manure, which previously was difficult to even give away, there's bound to be some who panic - or simply don't know - and their whole crop is blown for the year, potentially multiple years. This could be the thing that finally gets it banned. I'm white-knuckling that tiny bit of hope bc otherwise it looks like we're in for a pretty terrible couple years. 😬 As far as the damage it causes in even tiny amounts, do you recall the source of info? Speaking of aminopyralid and that class of herbicide, I read in multiple studies that when ingested on food, it is detected in the feces completely unchanged, suggesting that it isn't metabolized and simply passes through the gut. Now, if you meant the soil life is what's damaged, that could be said about anything really, but there's lots of studies out there showing that soil bacteria and fungi do indeed destroy it. A colleague of mine did her Masters on it, showing that fungi was effective in neutralizing and eliminating it, and and there's certainly more papers out there. Are you sure you're not thinking of another class of herbicide? Glyphosate maybe? In any case, while it's critical to be cautious about what we're introducing to our soil, there's microplastics in rain, and recently I even read that they've found it in blood samples; Something like 80%, yikes! There's stuff in the air, the water, the soil, the food, building materials, packaging and household items we touch and use every day, heck, even the sun can cause cancer. You really can't escape it, no matter how careful you are. At least, not without sacrificing mental health, relationships etc, the things that are truly important. We just do the best we can.

I think the Levington's essentials multipurpose compost I recently bought is contaminated. I thought it was just manure that had this problem! So annoyed especially as I paid £12 for those 3 bags. I have also been using coco coir which I think is fine, but it's too expensive for all my needs. I need to work out how to make enough of my own compost that I'll never need to buy any again.

Excellent video, David. I can see that God has turned your previous disaster into something Good. He is so kind! Thankyou for warning us. May God bless the work of your hands...and your cows! I hope they are still going well. 😊👍🐂 🌱🌱🌱

Australia here. I just had the same issue.. and they told me the compost was organic. Fork tongued, good for nothings..

Also from South Africa, I have been trying to eradicate Lantana the last 20y. Used herbicides in a 1000l tank, after 10y I noticed that the grasses also didn't return in the summer. We bought a tractor driven mulcher and that changed things around. It is however a never ending job.

Yikes!

Lived in Hillsborough County for 75 years gardening 50 of them. Just moved to Hernando County and am having to start building up the soil all over again 😆

I'm in Hillsborough too . But because of my age not able to do any in ground gardening anymore I have lots of large containers that I'm growing in and I fill milk containers with water and sit them out in the sun hoping it kills off the chemicals could you please tell me what filter you got for your hose it's getting very tiring carrying out so many jugs .

@@christopherc.4349 If you're is west Hernando County that sugar sand is some of the worst in Florida. I'm in Shady Hills and it's better than just north of me in spring hill. I used to live in Sarasota and the lot I lived on had dark rich soil. Never seen anything like it anywhere else in Florida. There's also a big difference in frosts compared to Hillsborough County.

@@carmellayates2503 I am lucky enough to be on a well now but back then I did the same as you. Those jugs do get heavy but between the chlorine and fluoride I didn't want either in my garden. I spaced the jugs along the plants so I didn't have to carry them. As I used them I refilled them with the hose to set a couple of days to clarify.

@@jonnyhawt8973 yes nothing but sugar sand lol. Am container gardening while trying to improve ground soil with ground covering crops, leaves and mulch to improve the soil.

Hello Carla

Is one of the commercial bagged manures BC?

Even ! But of course

For the last year. I've tried to grow a garden. I bought soil and bagged manure from. One of the big box stores. And I planted seeds. And nothing grew. It was pitiful. And I ask myself what did I do wrong, So I checked on RU-vid. Gardening channels and came across David the good. And what he explained was an eye opener.... No more soil Or manure from the Big box stores, or going to my neighbors cow pasture. And picking up cow patties no more. for me Never again. I'm not gonna waste my time and money anymore.... I feel your pain too.....

It's a risk for sure.

So thankful I found this. We just got a huge load of horse manure. Thankfully not in my garden yet. Now I have to test it.🙈

I am so sorry!

Every time I hear you tell that story it makes me so sad that that happened to you, Scott and everyone else. Keep warning everyone David, they need to know!

I warned a man today about this. He said he put manure on a lot of his plants last year and they all died. He was shocked to hear about it. I told him that it might, only might, get better year after year if he never does it again. I gave him RU-vid searches, including your channel, for JADAM, Korean Natural Farming, Permaculture with Geoff Lawton, New Mexico State University (the local agricultural university) and told him to get busy growing cover crops that have not been sprayed. He can compost those. Only this year have I realized that I need a garden strictly dedicated to growing compost and feeding the soil.

Been there, done that. I HATE paying for 'CRAP', anticipating it to grow me more 10' tomato plants, (like the good old days), and instead it causes them to curl up like 'the wicked witch of the west'!

I just ordered 2 of your books.

Holy... manure. I've actually been planning on getting some cow pies to break up into the yard. Yikes.

I'm so sorry.

@@davidthegood It's ok 😊 I've learned a lot since then. Especially not to use💩 if you don't know where it came from . 😄

@@lauralee83 😂that was funny,anyway thank you for sharing that wisdom..

@@sofeyah8 😅😅🤗 I learned something new anyway lol!

@@lauralee83 hmm...almost sounds like a conversation about news media...or politics! lolz-good advice about all types of 💩!

My tomatoes in Levington's multipurpose compost have started to become deformed now. So gutted. I have two trusses and they looked so healthy before. That's five months of nurture and grow lights out of the window!

If weeds are a nuisance get a goat or two, but be careful with your trees the goats will strip the bark off and kill them.

Goats won’t get rid of pigweed, or buttercups or perilla mint for that matter.

That's awful.

@@davidthegood a learning experience :)

Yikes!

Modern agriculture has been a complete disaster and must be terminated if we want to survive on this earth.

I'm just now learning about this, it's madness! You have to buy hay, to winter feed animals, but their poop poisons your land & water table?! These big chem corps really are out to stomp the small & self-supporting farmers! I'm pretty livid reading all these comments here, and just realizing why my container gardens several years ago were a big FLOP. This Grazeon stuff - who ever thought it's a good idea to spray long acting herbicide on any feed product?

Thank you, Patti! You've been with me a long time!

Welcome to TN!

It took a long time for us to clear ours. I grew wheat and corn and when they grew, I yanked them out and threw them away. Also turned in some biochar.

@@davidthegood Mine was a small contamination. But just that little bit ruined last year's strawberries...I can only imagine an entire garden contaminated...

This is an interesting subject and I used a store manure and all my peppers died. I feed hay to my rabbits and pellets and wonder about that now for using the manure. And is it in the meat. Hope this subject gets attention.

@@debc4788 Supposibly according to the agriculture gurus the chemical passes through the digestive tract and doesn't get in the meat...

from the same article: " Less prevalent compounds in the same class include fluroxypyr, dopyralid, and triclopyr. Many of these compounds appear on labels in slightly different variations making identification by the untrained applicator or a testing lab difficult." David is absolutely correct, just don't trust ANY of it.

A++ posts - thank you.

@@davidthegood you're very welcome, just trying to share information as I find it. I agree with your approach; I'm just going to avoid outside inputs of hay/compost/manure etc in future. And I already avoid synthetic herbicides/pesticides.

I would really stay away from municipal compost. All the landscapers and construction waste goes into that. It's like microwave compost if you will.

Test it by germinating beans in a pot of each. Look for weird growth. Test each bag separately. I spread a total of 10 or 12 bags of manure on my garden beds last year and only one bag out of the bunch (they all came off of one skid) poisoned a bed. My squash and melons looked sick all year then produced a few tiny fruits. I replanted all of my beds to alliums after harvest and that contaminated bed killed most of my shallots. I planted 4lbs of shallots there and maybe 8 plants are alive.

Yes - I agree.

Do you know how long dewormer will be present in the manure?

@@svenholmgren5015 If they used Ivermectin, it breaks down in sunlight according to sone. So running chickens over it to 'rake it'/break it down is pretty useful.

Sounds like Big Chemical has completely ruined our once-best form of natural fertilizer. Dewormer has been around a long time & the animals need it, I wonder how long it stays active once secreted? But a persistent herbicide for farm animal feed? That was Not needed, we have lived A Long Time without it. I think the organic grower movement was hurting Big Chemical business. This is just awful.

I hope David looks into this and replies because I asked the same question. Really curious about workers in manure because they need to be given to animals.

Does anyone know how often it is given to the animals? While I do agree that we don't want it in the manure, if it is once- twice a year, it is not nearly the threat Grazon poses.

How did you heal it?

They'll get so disheartened if their tomatoes die two years in a row and simply give up! It's good of you to warn them.

Moringa, sunn hemp, cannas and many grasses, like sorghum/sudan.

@@davidthegood what do you think about the pine chips from tractor supply?

I was wondering about the Black Kow too. I was about to check it out.

Hope won't save you. Those are exactly what killed my garden. It was even labeled "organic" on the bag.

You are right, Danny & Wanda were hit with the same toxin as David. They used Grazon contaminated composted manure.

@@TXplowgirl ~ Thanks for the confirmation. It's been awhile since I seen it.

Yes it destroyed a lot of my hard work for years.

@@DeepSouthHomestead Heartbreaking!

@@DeepSouthHomestead Greetings from southern Manitoba, Canada, where we are still having snow! which I call “cold April showers.” I just heard of this herbicide (Grazon) problem, and was shocked at all the ways it can sneak into our gardens and its devastating effect. . I was viewing one of your live-streamed videos, and you and Miss Wanda were answering a lot of gardening questions. Just a thought: it might be helpful if you could remind people often about this hazard, as I noticed some people encountered it, besides locally, for example, in only one or two bags of store-purchased manure, out of several they had purchased. I don’t know at this point how to avoid or minimize or somehow test for these herbicides, but awareness would be a good start. I noticed there are some plants that will help to clear the soil, like sunflowers being one example, as long as the contaminated sunflowers are destroyed so animals are not going to spread it further. I hate the idea of people trying to start out gardening and having to experience this. Blessings, from Kathleen…

Yes, that's right.

I was trying to remember which plants to test with too. Thank You! Another persistent chemical I'm dealing with is chloramines in my city water. Chloramines don't break down like chlorine does. My garden has just barely been hanging on for years bcuz every time I water my landscape, the chloramines kill all the microbes in the soil. It took me a long time for the light bulb to go off! I think the microbes build back up over time, but if I'm continuously watering, I'm continuously setting those microbes back. I finally bought a special filter that goes on my hose, and this year the garden is doing much better. But geez! CHEMICALS EVERYWHERE!!! AUUUHHHGGG!!!!

@@gardengatesopen Which filter worked for you)

@@gardengatesopen Curious, what filter system did you use.... I have issues on my lot I need to sort out as well... thanks for your reply!

I would like to know what filter you are using too.