@@WDinATX I think that’s what gets me. It seems like he less made him forget what cards had gone but rather made him forget the red-eyes archetype. Because if I knew I had a red-eyes in my deck and I used a card like that I would just assume I must have dumped it by now.
@@blackchibisan8116 “I was just giving you what you desired, deep down, for so long. Your hatred of the power of Darkness that once controlled you lingers as hatred for the deck that you used back then. That’s what removed your memory.” -Yusuke Fujiwara He was lying about most of that but that quote nonetheless verifies your theory. 👍 And yes, I literally went back to the episode to check how he phrased it.
Atticus, like many GX characters, was poorly used. First of all, Alexis should have dueled him in S1 when he was possessed by Nightshroud. He does absolutely nothing in S2, not even trying to save Alexis from the Society of Light, and his trauma from being possessed by Nightshroud isn't explored all that much until S4. If anything, S4 exists to try and repair the damage done by having the show be 100% Jaden focused, and so lots of characters got to have one final chance to shine.
Funny cause Blair was never given a chance to shine at all. If anything she was brought back and the show did nothing for her besides being used for very unfunny jokes. She also never wins a single on screen duel
@@soukenmarufwt5224 That's one of the biggest problems with GX. It doesn't use its time wisely with its characters because the show is 100 percent focused on Jaden doing all the work and being the only plot relevant character.
True. And funny because a different field spell supporting the God cards was introduced in an earlier season of GX as well: Mound of the Bound Creator. "Support" even though it made Ra cry. (Thanks 4Kids)
@@TGSAnime. Hey TGS, I love your videos. Keep up the great work. Also, could you please do a duel analysis of the duel between Don Thousand, Yuma, and Nasch please?
I love the direction this duel went. This is such a unique duel showing one possible future and ultimately the plot twist that the duel didn't end yet. Plus I loved Atticus duelling here. Shows how he is one of the best of the best in Duel Academia.
@@darkphoenix2745And not even gaslit, like Sam said, it was actual BS. They pull the "Bites the Dust" reverse 5 turns/illusion scenario nonsense to show "no but actually you lose" *even though Atticus wouldn't have lost* . They screwed over a cool moment for an underutilized character by showing us and then taking away the ending for an ending that wouldn't have even happened. Like playing out a nail biter 60 seconds of back and forth football/soccer only for the score to end in a tie...only for the refs to come out, reset the score and state of play to the 60 second mark, play it as sudden death, have one dude kick, completely whiff the goal into the stands, and it whistled a point and game over.
I'd like to see a review of Jack Leo and Luna vs Aporia, it's similar to the paradox duel and there were many wasted turns where the Twins were too afraid to do anything.
well, i wouldn’t say twins and more so luna whereas leo was trying to do too much and was costing the team life points and resources by not being thoughtful in his early plays
@@sunnienellyI wouldn't say leo wasn't thoughtful. That duel was just rigged against him. Like the baddie had a battle trick set. Not even a normal one that boosts his own bois. One that effects opponents monsters that already performed a battle trick. That like 3 levels of contrived. It comes across less like leo was being dumb. More like the guy had stupidly targeted plot armor
I'd say it was balanced out by Aporia purposely keeping them alive, because his goal was to make them see his point of view by having them succumb to despair, making them surrender and save their lives in the process, and he did this to the point of making purposely wasteful moves (such as giving his weakest monster piercing damage) to micro-manage their LP. Depleting their LP and killing them was only a plan B. If he had just focused on dueling and done the right thing in reducing their numbers, he easily would've won even if Leo hadn't skipped a turn (of course, I am saying this without knowledge of Luna's cards. She had so many unknown cards left in her hand...).
Is fun but Atticus' trump card was milled at the start of the duel, that winged dragon spell allows him to return a lv 7 or higher dragon to the hand to destroy all the oponnent's backrow. That would destroy clear world giving him way better odds.
Having seen a solar eclipse earlier this year, i like how the "alternate" duel happens beneath the eclipse. It also melds with the inner darkness stuff, full of visual metaphor this one. Takahashi kept going on about our cards being our heart, and our duels being how we communicate those unsayable feelings so the other can understand. Good duel.
"true darkness is unrestrained by anything, so my monster has no type" "Ayo i thought we were playing yugioh, not mtg" "... We are?" "You litterally just summoned a colorless monster, that shit dont exist in ygo"
@@mystery8820 "When did this turn into the Pokemon TCG?" 'It's called an effect, Atti-' "No, wait, MTG! This is MTG you're shoving in here!" 'You done?' "..." '...' "White color Digimon." 'I ****ing hate you right now.'
@@michaelkarimian7538 and even then, her victory against Joey was only because he never got a chance to recover from Valon literally beating the mess out of him.
@@Yojimbo16Exactly! It wasn’t a clean win, but extremely circumstantial. Mai deserved better in the later seasons of Yugioh, at least so she could redeem herself after season 4.
Even if it did get dubbed, 4kids will ruin all the important context explaining what’s really going on, as they always had when it comes to this franchise when they dive into serious topics (ie “sent to the shadow realm”)…
Yea these are so cool I've watched em all mutiple times and dis 1 jus what n da world was going on lol ive nvr seen season 4 of gx looks cool tho. Red eyes can't ever get a win lol
@@relicdad88 season 4 & the final episode of season 3 were never dubbed, but basically Jaden began distancing himself from his friends because he thought he was dangerous to them.
@@ReviewBotAi no, I think he said something about why in his altered beast video. He's mainly doing game reviews. Quite interesting for the games he does cover
@@RodimusMinor1987 While Blue-Eyes, Dark Magician are a bunch of outdated Normal bricks but knows EXACTLY what they want to do during the duel: BE: Victory DM: Defense Red-Eyes on the other hand is the embodiment of being too experimental on too many game mechanics that doesn’t flow into one another for a proper synergy or have an end goal win condition. And it’s all due to it being “potentially playable”. But being “potentially playable” doesn’t help when your opponent already has a planned out endgame before the duel began…
@@markmorales7958 yeah most of the red eyes are either used as fusion material or do burn damage, and usually leave players saying "now what" after painfully did all Black eyes combo while they can do dragonlink instead.
Memory Snatcher has always intrigued me from the artwork to the effect. I'm not really sure how this would do in the actual game. Considering nowadays the GY is your second hand. Then again traps are too slow for most decks.
Me too, but it would just break the game in a playable perspective. How someone should take out a card without seeing other cards. And then the first "guess" would let you memorize it again and again. A possible way would be to say the order of the card ( 22th card / 3th last) but that would certainly to broken Powerbudget wise. I would see the actual effect be kinda balanced to remember what you play and why, that's the point that you know how to pilot the deck( of course checking is good because not everyone have a photo mind/is normal ) but I don't remember the order if I search, special, shuffle in the deck. BUT IF, only on master Duel/ online.
@@dommaster661 My guess is that it would either require a judge to be there (which would be a pain for them) or require the opponent to be honest (not likely), so the card would just be banned from tournaments.
Yes, Atticus Should've Forced the DRAW on Turn 7................ IF HE SET RED-EYES BURN ON HIS FIRST TURN! Turn 1: Yusuke plays Clear Phantom and sets Memory Snatcher. Turn 2: Atticus destroys it with Red-Eyes Wyvern (Yusuke's LP= 3600). Then he sets Offensive Guard. Atticus loses Red-Eyes Wyvern, A Wingbeat Of Giant Dragons, Dragon Heart and Red-Eyes Black Dragon from the top of his deck. Yusuke Activates Memory Snatcher. ATTICUS SETS RED-EYES BURN (The smart play because it is a Trap Card, and it can force a draw if needed). Turn 3: Yusuke plays clear rage Golem and attacks causing Atticus to play Offensive Guard and draw Dragon's Breath (Atticus now takes less damage because his hand has one less card in it. (Atticus's LP= 2000). --------------- Turn 4: Atticus draws Swing Of Memories. He normal Summons Hunter Dragon and plays Swing Of Memories to revive Red-Eyes Black Dragon. He attacks with both for 2700 Damage. (Yusuke's LP= 700). He sets Dragon's Breath. Turn 5: Yusuke draws Clear World. He plays Clear Vice Dragon, and attacks... Atticus plays Dragons Breath using Hunter Dragon. Clear Vice Dragon negates it (by discarding Attribute Mastery), resulting in Hunter Dragon getting destroyed and Atticus taking 1700 Damage (Atticus's LP= 300). Clear Vice Dragon changes to defence mode. He sets Nihilistic Summoning Method. Turn 6: Atticus draws a Mysterious card (I suppose, Red Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon). He uses Red-Eyes Wyvern to revive Red-Eyes Black Dragon in Defence Mode and passes turn. Turn 7: Yusuke is an idiot for activating both of his equip spells in the fake timeline because you have to destroy Red-Eyes by battle to inflict Burn damage through Attribute Bomb and the Attribute Mastery card destroys it without applying damage calculation, which means it was destroyed by card effect. Yusuke equips Attribute Bomb to Clear Vice Dragon, uses Nihilistic Summoning to bring out Clear Rage Golem, and destroys Red-Eyes.... Atticus activates Red-Eyes Burn to end the duel in a DRAW. Rulings: Because Red-Eyes Burn comes after Attribute Bomb in the chain, it resolves first, thus both players lose LP equal to Red-Eyes Black dragon's Attack (Clear Vice Dragon cannot negate this as Red-Eyes Burn does not threaten to destroy Clear Vice Dragon). So yeah... Atticus should've gotten his DRAW state whether the Mind Hax was involved or not!!!
Nice idea, but on turn 5, why would he attack Hunter Dragon over Red Eyes, Attacking RBD would have won him the duel also the way burst breath works is the target should still leave the field even though it was negated Edit, I forgot that swing of memories sends the monster to the graveyard at the end of the turn
I dont blame Atticus for not summoning Hunter Dragon in turn 4 at least, since he wanted to revive RedEyes. He could not have known his opponent would do more damage that way. (also Attribute Bomb clearly worked differently because it still inflicted the damage in the anime) No excuse for him not setting RedEyes Burn right away tho, even if he did not want a draw.
@@Amitlu Maybe he was scouting whether Yosuke had any back row removal, just guessing, but yeah he should have summoned Wyvern attacked Clear Phantom, Yosuke takes 600 damage, Ability is activated destroying Wyvern and milling the top 3 cards of his deck, Atticus I set 2 cards face down and end my turn, Sadly no he held onto Red Eyes Burn for some reason
"Not summoning a monster is an option here" That depends. If Clear Rage Golems effect depends on dealing battle damage, then yes. If it activates when it attacks directly and the attack is not negated, it's burn effect would end the duel. Personally, I always thought that is why You's ke chose Rage Golem over Phantom. There are cards where the tribute is part of the effect, not the cost. Although in that case, the wording "when your opponent activates an effect that would destroy this card" becomes dubious since the effect only determines whether it would destroy Clear Vice after the sacrifice. Not sure about the official ruling in this case. So, the difference between how the vision went and how the duel would have continued if Red-Eyes had been sacrificed is that Clear Vice is still on the board. Yusuke could have summoned Rage Golem to attack directly if that does inflict damage as mentioned above. Other than that, if Red Eyes is in attack mode for the final play with Red-Eyes Burn, Yusuke would still win because Clear Vice would finish the life points through battle damage before Red-Eyes Burn could be activated (not that it would make any sense to summon Red Eyes in attack there). Fubuki's mysterious card? Red Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon. The unsummonable anime version.
The tradition of Konami always shafting Red-eyes players started all the way back then? What a surprise. (aside, I had no idea that red-eyes burn and wyvern were actually played on screen before, I always thought those support cards existed in a vacuum and added some random time after GX, so it was cool to see this for the first time)
Red-Eyes has always been shafted. Remember, its very first appearance involved it jobbing to _Time Wizard,_ and in the next few duels it got stomped by Dragon Zombie and then wasn't allowed to move in the Labyrinth Wall.
10:30 personal opinion: I think thematically, I’m going to say it’s Red-Eyes Darkness Dragon. It was a card he used while corrupted by Nightshroud/Darkness, with Yusuke now under the same effects. Since Atticus wanted a draw, summoning that card would not allow Inferno Fire Blast to activate. It needs the OG Red-Eyes to activate (fun fact: using Red Eyes Fusion to treat a Red Eyes Fusion Monster as the OG Red Eyes does work)
Fujiwara was a very good villain and my favourite one from GX. The scene where it seemed like Atticus and Fujiwara both lost but it never really happened was insane
@@rainbowdragon168 Just that the dialogue of a nihilistic character is a lot less subtle and lacks much adversity against the heroes Just something that’s easy to be overcome and it doesn’t feel very satisfying to defeat such people
Something of an off-topic tangent, but an associate pointed out, during Camula's run, that Zane seemed flabbergasted when confronted with Illusion Gate's effect, claiming that a card so powerful had to have drawbacks. But that had us wondering; Illusion Gate seems plainly an unofficial card, right? Its craving for souls reflected the Phantom Beast's, not the actual card game, insinuating they or their acolytes created it themselves. In that case, if they are creating cards for the Shadow Riders to wield, why enact any drawback? Why not just make it an instant win condition, or otherwise classically impossible to beat? Are they so hungry for souls they forget the easy solution- or have at least some sense of game integrity? I mean Ziegfried's deal was tricking the system into accepting Golden Castle despite how blatantly overpowered it was, so the Shadow Riders could've done something similar. Camula wouldn't need to play around soul hostages in that case, just toss the card out and easy win. Made an interesting muse.
Basically she needed the souls for personal motives which she explains in her duel against Jaden that she needs to them create an army to restore the vampires and you could say there is a cost for using Shadow Charms as they aren't as strong as the Millenium Items in enacting Shadow Duels.
I always assumed that duel energy only gets released during the play. Thus an instant win would be useless since their collection of soul crap requires duel energy to function. It also kinda tracks as to why they never play FTK or instant beat down, they always play decks that grind their opponents down slowly over time from my recollection.
@@ES-dp6tw That and the Shadow Charms used by later Shadow Riders after Camila are also anchors that lets them exist in reality let alone give them a physical human form to duel in. So in a sense the Shadow Riders also have their own rules to play by.
He's probably doing this because the Clear World cards were finally announced recently, but I still find it funny that I rewatched this duel and was hoping for TGS to make a video on it so he could say, "Shenanigans!"
Love a trap card that keeps you from looking into people graveyards. The only card we have like that that I know of is question, and what you’re not allowed to check before you guess.
When Atticus activated his Burst Breath in the final turn, it should tribute Red-Eyes as cost, even when it negated, meaning Atticus wouldnt lose to Vice Dragon
The writers don't know anything about YGO. A meta player can write better duels. The writers think cost happens only if the card resolves, battle damage happens after monster is destroyed (it's why Jaden didn't lose the first duel with Crowler), and writers not understanding how cards works. They are literally incompetent and can't write a Duel that isn't caveman era beatdown strategy
@@some2043 Well, in the anime, Kaiba used it against Gozaburo. His dragon was tributed, then the destruction effect was activated, so this duel is the odd one. It should've been a draw. But we won't have a dub version of the season, so everyone who cares is sad :)
This duel still grinds my gears to this day, because Nasch straight up cheats twice to beat IV (chaining a card to an instant win condition, and then using C101 Dark Knight to attack the same turn it was brought back from the graveyard by its revive effect)
@@tyfellwind9398 Two things I'd like to point out that potentially dispel both cheating accusations: 1) In the matter of the instant win condition, Nasch can simply flip Overlay Award at the end of IV's Main Phase and use its effect to reattach a material to C88 before the End Phase occurs. Since C88 can only use its burn effect once per turn, Overlay Award is an effective safeguard against the former's win condition. 2) The restriction that prevents C101 from attacking the same turn it revives itself does not exist in its anime counterpart. See Nasch vs. Yuma on Turn 3 for proof, because Nasch does it there too and is legal in the anime.
@@cameraredeye3115 IV had already announced he ended his turn and the IK attack was already activated and in the process of resolving though. Nasch would have had to immediately use Award after the 4k burn to avoid it. But, anime has lots of shenanigans, been cheating since the DM era. This duel in particular just bugs me because IV deserved that win
I'd love to still see some of Sartorius' duels, or the rematch between Jaden and Aster. But to keep rotating series, I'd like to see the duel between Team 5d's and Team Unicorn.
Oooo I was really hoping you'll do this duel, it is one of the biggest "WTF" moments in YGO history. I don't remember if there was a hint that Tusuke had the power to just show us an alterative play the duel could of gone
Omg, finally another a season 4 duel! And this is probably the top 4 in season 4 of GX. GX season 4 is a rare treasure in society. I highly recommend watching it.
Just for the sake of argument, I will point out: The original printing of the Burst Breath card actually did not have tributing as a cost. It was erratad in 2005, which is still a while before this episode airs, but Ithey might have been worried about consistency issues since it was a card that Kaiba also used at one point. That might be the reasoning behind what happens if someone's a stickler for the shenanigans :p
I'm not so sure if the consistency was their worry, seeing as how they had fixed the Magic Cylinder issue by this point. When Yugi used Magic Cylinder in Battle City, it was treated as redirecting an attack back at the opponent's monster. When Cyrus used it in season 1, it was treated as the proper effect; negating the attack and causing effect damage.
I've seen all your duel analyses. I've watched the entire DM series, most of GX (not this duel), and small pieces of 5Ds and Zexal. This is the only time I've ever been stunned speechless, jaw-dropped from watching these. Both because of the duel itself, and your presentation. Amazing work! Also, is there any possibility of Yugi/Kaiba v Lumis/Umbra in Battle City? 2v2 duels tend to be real spectacles, after all! Same with Yugi/Joey v Big Five in Virtual World.
I'm just imaging all of the Clear related puns and jokes they'd make in the dub of this and now I want that even more. That should've been part of the anniversary.
Right off the bat, I notice one similarity (or rather a few) between this duel and another (very memorable) duel from DM, given the respective end results: - Atticus uses Red-Eyes which is emblematic of (though not used by) Joey Wheeler. - The stakes are very high given the point in the story of the arcs during which the duels take place. - Shenanigans on the part of the antagonist (Yusuke manipulating memories; Marik messing around in the Shadow Realm) - The respective hero characters shoulda coulda woulda won were it not for certain circumstances. This duel in GX felt very much like the equivalent of the infamous DM duel where Joey got completely screwed over. Man, Atticus had it rough during what could be considered his path to full redemption (kinda). Now I want both Yusuke and Atticus in Duel Links....!
Now that the Clear archetype is finally getting printed in Animation Chronicle 2024, we just need those Attribute support cards and more Clear support cards to be printed in future packs 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
So correct me if I'm worry, but couldn't Atticus has have drawn the duel the turn before Clear World was activated had he set Red-Eyes Burn the turn before? Burn says "when it's destroyed by battle or card effect" not "opponent's card effect", so if he had set it on the previous turn, Swing of Memories to bring it can then normal summon Hunter Dragon, attack with both then when Red-Eyes is destroyed by Swing of Memories, activate Red-Eyes Burn and draw the duel there.
I remember watching this duel a long while ago and that repeat thing always confused me, so thank you a million times for clearing that up. That Clear Vice Dragon is really op. It still burns me up that Yugioh gx season 4 was never dubbed. For a few future duels to analyze here’s a few: Atem and Kaiba vs Lumis and Umbra Kaiba vs Alister (both rounds if possible) Aster Phoenix vs Adrian Gecko Aster Phoenix vs Jaden (round 2) Jaden vs Darkness (Season 4) Yuma and Nash vs Don Thousand Again I can’t thank you enough for all the time and effort you put into these videos. Infinite out of 10
@@TGSAnime out of curiosity, how close are you in working on the number archetype? We got some more support announcements for it recently (rage of the abyss, and duelists of brilliance)
The whole nihilism vs individualism motif is basically what third impact from End Of Evangelion was conveying underneath all that mountain of symbolism
I have the flu, and haven’t seen this episode. So when you pulled the time-reverse; my sleep-deprived brain was just absolutely baffled, and your repeat-commentary just made it crazier haha
Yusuke or rather Nightshroud is basically a Persona villain, cast aside your individuality and live in bliss in my eternal world of darkness. This would've worked so much better if Darkness wasn't introduced as a complete walkover style villain from the moment he was introduced.
This has been on my mind for so long. It’s about Arc-V where in the cooking duel S1, if someone had change the order in how they activated their cards, then they could have won
At that point in the duel, the reverse order was: a wing beat of giant dragon, dragon heart, red eyes black dragon, and red eyes wyvern is at the bottom since it was sent first
Here’s a possible suggestion. YGO 5D’s, Jack Atlus vs Dragan of Team Ragnarok. The idea is that this is a grudge match as we find out Dragan fought Jack and lost before the events of the start of the show. However, the duel was fixed so that Dragan had to lose so he could win some money for his dad’s hospital bills. What makes their rematch interesting is that it not only calls into play Jack’s legitimacy as a duelist, but both he and Dragan actually start with the exact same cards as before