👊💥Hey Fanboys! Bruce is my idol as well, don't get me wrong, but in my opinion he was not a fighter but a martial artist, of course a pioneer, a very disciplined and astute man. Thanks to him millions of people began to practice martial arts and he broke many prejudices. He was a philosopher ahead of his time, and of course he brought a lot of richness to the martial arts with his great wisdom (pay attention, because this is also said in the video). I only say, and I am totally convinced of it, that his skills and figure have been exaggerated to irrational extremes. The whole documentary is made and narrated with respect, even if you say the opposite. I'm very happy with the work I've done. I just find it too sad that people can't understand that you can admire and at the same time intellectually criticize a person. I almost never read the comments of my videos, just some randomly, the truth amazes me that you don't understand that the Silvester Stallone thing is a simple metaphor. Bruce is a legend and that is also said in the video, but most of you haven't even seen the whole documentary. He had many physical and combat skills and even as I recognize in the documentary itself he could have been a great professional fighter, but you have directly taken the video as if it were a simple attempt at slander, instead of the analysis of a social scientist exposing the different argumentative layers around an ethnographic situation. This report only aims to disprove some of the most popular hoaxes about the artist through documentation and critical thinking. Maybe someday I will make a much longer documentary, with more clips and arguments because people definitely went crazy about Bruce, and that devalues those who were true blood and fist fighters. I grew up my whole childhood with a poster of bruce in my room! just don't give him any more credit than he got. I'm glad you guys leave comments, because that gives me a lot of views, engagement and praises my work, I won't be able to keep reading you because I have a lot of videos to produce and clients to work with in my other studio. In any case, I am not interested either. I wish you all peace and have a nice day.
Respect your points. But escpecially the part about the drugs is not well done since there is no timeline. Fact is the so called "drug letters" cover a time between December 1969 and July 1973 (his death), and the heavy durgs like ACID and cocaine came more in the early 70s into play. Means: In the calender years 1970, 1971, but especially 1972 and 1973 he was definately heavy on drugs, and you can say a drug addict. A guy who takes so much drugs is basically like non compos mentis, and things he said and written down during those years should be considered critical. But since there is no timeline and you speak in the video about "his years in Hollywood", which were 1966/67 to 1971, makes people think he took already heavy drugs before December 1969, and there is no prove or evidence, not even hints for that, i mean cocaine or ACID. Just compare his face impressions in his two famous interviews. The first was taken in late Feb 1965 when he was 24 yrs old and a full time martial arts instructor, and the second was taken in December 1971 when he was 31 and a full time actor. You can clearly see the drug influence in the 1971 "Lost Interview" with canadian journalist Pierre Berton in Hong Kong. And you can see his strange face impressions in 1971, 1972 and 1973, the nose touching in "Fist of Fury" and "Way/Return of the Dragon", and especially the strange face grimasses in "Game of Death" and "Enter the Dragon", which are 100% matching a heavy cocaine user. BTW somehint matches: In February 1973 when the filming "Enter The Dragon" began, Lee was not availbe for about 2-3 weeks. Nobody knew where he was and what was wrong, even Fred Weintraub and Paul Heller thought he maybe got cold feet and bailed out. I have a theory: Some times heavy cocaine user develop kind of twitches, i mean unwilling twitches/spasm, and maybe he had to teak a coke break for 2-3 weeks until these twitches got away again. Only speculation. But so or so in your video it looks like he took already heavy drungs pre December 1969, and many detractors dont even get his professional life together as an adult (age 18-32). From 1960-1963 he was in Seattle a part time dish washer and part time martial arts instructor. From 1963-1971 he was a full time MA instructor, first in Seattle, then Oakland, then LA, and between 1966 and 1971 he did acting as second job. From 1971-1973 he was a full time actor and a part time MA instructor in Hong Kong. But like i said there is no evidence, hints or what ever that he took heavy drugs when he was 18, 23 or 26 yrs old (1959-1967). It all began with weed around 1968 when he was 27 with Steve McQueen and those Hollywood guys, but this was not an abuse or daily thing. The heavy drugs (cocaine, LDS etc.) came later after December 1969. So a timeline about the heavy drug use (Dec 1969 - July 1973) would be a suggestion from me. Cheers
Bruce Lee was street fighting in streets of Hong Kong before he studied Wing Chung and before he was a film star. He was a legit fighter and fought many street fights throughout his career. He was a real fighter. Plenty of eye witness accounts. Not invincible, but his fighting style Jeet Kune Do is a fighting system that was scientifically thought out. It worked because he knew what worked and didn't work through experience.
I'm 60 years old I have been practicing martial arts for over 40 years. I saw my first Bruce Lee film when I was eight. I dare say if it had not been for the man the myth and the legend Bruce Lee I would not have started on this wonderful journey. What I took from Bruce Lee philosophy was not to be a slave to form. I belive anywhere practicing martial arts for some time would reach this conclusion. No one person has inspired martial artists more than Bruce Lee. Say would you may about him the man was a genius
Bruce Lee was to actual fighting, like a dunking contest is like to NBA. Even if you can do flashy dunks even better than NBA players, you're still going to get destroyed by them in an actual game.
True... and most people aren't even aware or don't care about the MEGA STEROID STACKS (up to 20 different steroids or more at a time!) taken by the so called "elite athletes" or "pro fighters"
"I have the absolute confidence not to be number two, but then I have enough sense to realize that there can be no number one." / "I'm not in this world to live up to your expectations and you're not in this world to live up to mine" - Bruce Lee.
No, we all walk our own path. It's in regards to knowledge of self. To walk a path that someone else created is to have little or no knowledge of self. To be self-sufficient, renders others expectations non-existent.
Bruce didn't just practice "some" wing chun and became an actor. You're talking about a legit man that studied & lived martial arts with an insane amount of extreme training & dedication that is almost impossible to replicate. Breathed, ate, & slept it. Like the painter that can't stop painting or writer that can't stop writing. Add to that his study of body bio-mechanics and his physical feats of strength that much larger people couldn't replicate. An example would be a small power lifter being much stronger than a larger bodybuilder. The guy was developing his finger and forearm strength when - even to this day - most athletes or fighters don't! Take an average mma athlete's training TODAY, & it still won't compare to the amount of training Bruce did. Unlike today's sparring with certain rules, Bruce's "no holds barred" sparring sessions were legendary (ask those that were there like Dan Inosanto). I won't even go into his speed, but both of those together are a rarity & deadly. I wouldn't be surprised if the reason he used coke & other substances was to help maintain his busy schedule once he took off as an actor. That plus his back injury and need to wind down & relax. I won't judge him when many today live on advil, antidepressants, & weed just to name the now legal weaker substances. Ali would kill Bruce in a boxing match. However, in a street fight where anything goes?? I seriously have my doubts & feel Bruce was being humble & respectful. Also, no disrespect to Chuck, but when you have the world champion Chuck Norris not wanting to "go there", it speaks volumes. May want to question why that was. Any confident chanpion would have fought anyone - even for charity as an exhibition. But in many, many interviews, you can see how Chuck was careful not to sound to cocky or challenging. That respect had him in check - a world champion. Thanks for the documentary, enjoyed it overall. ✌
I think Chuck actually said neither of them wanted to go there. Perhaps because they were friends. Regarding your comment that any confident champion would fight anyone, it begs the question, in that case, why didn't Bruce fight anyone ? You might say because he wasn't a champion. True but he is called a real fighter by his fans, so the question still stands
@@erick7777 Lee had lacky students. Lee fought no one skilled . Lee trained with Joe Lewis , wall, Norris, stone, etc to get recognition as a TRAINER & they trained with lee because of his showbiz connections..and that sums it up . Lee was known as KATO of TV & lee worked on movie sets as choreographer…they wanted to get on Tv to & it worked well for some . Lee was a martial artist & ACTOR.
@@kingdaleclarke YOU on crack, he did fought, do more research. Tournament champion fighters came to him, challenged him. he outclassed them all and they all ended up students of Bruce. And that fight with Nakachi. Bruce knocked him out.
@@kingdaleclarke he fought. Just because you never saw him in a sport fight in TV with rules doesnt mean he never fought. He had street fights and he won a boxing Match in 1959 against the champion back than.
Didn't your parents tell you not to speak ill of the dead? Bruce Lee is a legend not because he was a "professional" fighter, but because he changed American's perception of martial arts. Remember that Warner Bros was half-hearted about Enter the Dragon and forced the production team to pair him up with a white "star". The film was seminal. It changed Hollywood forever. Bruce Lee is personally responsible for changing the perception of Asian people and martial arts around the world. Have some respect. Personally, I thought the video was a straw man argument.
I totally underline your words and I agree with them, in fact, they do not contradict anything explained in the video. If you watched the whole video you can see that Bruce's figure is treated with respect and always highlighting his merits, especially in the final conclusion.
Bruce lee took 2 cortisone injection a day the catabolic and they are performance enhancing they help to push the limits you can get to a new level in speed and strength you can be skinny and super strong and lift a 10 stone man above your head
@@TRNGL Bruce lee took 2 cortisone injection a day the catabolic and they are performance enhancing they help to push the limits you can get to a new level in speed and strength you can be skinny and super strong and lift a 10 stone man above your head and when I looked at bruces famous up close picture his face checks where purple from the cortisone and it damaged pertective tissue around his brian this makes you variable thing like pain killers alcohol which can cause the brain to swell up
@cuzz63 If what I have read is accurate (and not mythology), he was a teen street thug that got his ass kicked regularly, which is why he became a martial artist. Please correct me if I'm wrong (and cite your source(s)). 😀
Massive understatement. I don't even have the words to explain how much he changed the way things worked at every level of society because of his effort to bring MMA to the world.
Chuck Norris, Jim Kelly, Bob Wall had acknowledged how great of a Martial Artist Bruce Lee was. They got to know him and trained with him. So when you Google "Who is the best martial artist" just see who pops up first. That says it all. And he didn't have to be a world champion. Norris said it himself. Because is not about the titles you achieve but the knowledge, the discipline, the training, the recognition of other experts.
Is Google the arbitrator of who is the best martial artist? Even if he was, that doesn’t make him the best fighter. There are plenty of great martial artists who can put on awesome displays, but that isn’t fighting. For that matter, Jackie Chan’s martial arts displays and stunt work are far more impressive than Bruce’s IMO. But I don’t believe for one moment that Jackie Chan can actually kick ass.
@@Dane33602 you are comparing him with today's fighter, naturally today's mma can beat any fighters during bruce lee's time with mma rules back then there was no mma, mma was born because of bruce lee, without him mma would not have existed.
i hunt for bruce lee haters, i see bruce lee haters here, they are like clown, the fact is, bruce lee is the real deal, with or without record, real street fight doesn't need record
@@vampire923 Maybe you should get on Google and hunt for some evidence of all these street fights Bruce Lee was involved in. I’m not talking about kids scrapping in the park and rooftops in Hong Kong . I’m talking about real Lenny McLean style, blood, missing teeth, broken bones, concussion and weapon street fights. I’ve read every major biography of Bruce Lee. Outside of Wong Jack Man (who he either beat, was beaten by, or drew with, depending on which students reported the story) and a reported instance of bloodying a hapless stuntman’s mouth, there are no mentions of ANY street fights Bruce was involved with as an adult. Bruce was an uncanny martial artist, electrifying action star, and years ahead of his time in regards to fitness and training. He opened the door for Asian actors and other martial arts stars. He changed the world in his short life. Isn’t that enough? Does he also have to be able to beat both Tysons (Mike and Fury) at the same time with both hands tied behind his back? If Bruce were alive today, he’d probably be the first to say, “please…give me a fucking break”.
The statement that he didn’t fight in competition and comparing Stallone etc is really flawed. Bruce was a innovative martial artist first and foremost. Acting was just his tool to spread kungfu
Bruce Lee’s impact on culture cannot be underestimated. He was more than a martial artist. He was a trailblazer. People who had never watched martial films before watched them because of Bruce. Also, Bruce was a dedicated teacher. He had a lot of natural charisma. I would have loved to see him act in a movie without martial arts.
@@westyraviz No, he swatted away falsehoods from poor approaches to real combat. Could only did so via his real world experience from boyhood all the way to adulthood of constantly getting into real fights with rival Martial Artists, and not from glorified heavy sparring you call "sports combat"😂😂😂
The robot voice used here takes a little away from the presentation. There are many legendary Asian martial arts masters and no one belittles them by saying they couldn't fight because they never competed. For me Joe Lewis, considered by many the greatest Karate fighter ever, was trained by Bruce Lee and said Bruce was the real deal. That's good enough for me.
Of all the famous people in the world who have died none have been talked more about than Bruce Lee. That is the legacy he left behind. That is legit!!
@@quach8quach907 Yes, but kung fu schools at the time were not teaching in realistic ways. Nor were martial arts schools in the USA. Bruce lamented publicly that almost all martial arts was taught for aesthetics or for exercise even in schools all over China. That is why Bruce kept going to every school he could find to at least check them out... Him and his students did realistic hard sparring, wearing protective gear from other sports because there was no such gear aimed at martial arts at the time... He had the top jui-jitsu champion training with him and his students, the top Judoka of the time, top muay thai master, high level phillippino martial arts masters, all trained with him because they wanted to learn from him just as much as he and his students wanted to learn from them...
no he will not because he does not know anything about grappling. all the techniques he has shown in his movies are incorrect. He is also a terrible striker since he pushes his punches instead of snapping them
The difference between these martial artist was they weren't serious about there craft as was Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee lived And breathed martial arts this guy practiced every day. Where did you hear any body talking about Chuck Norris or any other martial artist in that era practicing every single day martial arts. Bruce Lee was the real deal and till this day were still talking about him he's been gone 50 years. We love you Bruce.
Is it me or does Chuck Norris like to tell people Bruce was t a real fighter, yet he studied under him and changed his game? Joe Lewis was the only one to tell the truth about Bruce and how much he learnt from him, changing him as a fighter.
@@sentientnutsack5197 The 70s were a different Era where tournaments were about points not full contact. Bruce Lee was just confident He once said that he was not afraid who's in front of him. Thank you for responding GOD BLESS
he has been dead over 50 years and still the topic of conversation, folks still try to get clout on his name, his image his legacy, say what you want he will be remembered and honored long after any of his nay sayers will be, his accomplishment will stand, the effect he has had on martial artist, fighters, and action movies, how many people can accomplish what he did, in a three year time span in the lime light , 4 completed films.
@@cuzz63 based on movement.. yea really.. you can tell between a Van Dam EDITED scene and a scene were Bruce Lee is CLEARLY a legitimate fighter. well i guess there are ppl (you) that CANT see it..
@@cuzz63 the man trained in jabbing eyes with his fingers, could do 2 finger pushups (so those eye jabs would most CERTAINLY hurt) and preached kicking the groin and stomping out a downed opponent.
@@soramirez5473 yes.."trained". how does one train eye jabs realistically? The thing about training is there are way more rules in training that even actual fighting.
Well said. Or translation: Was Lee a glorified heavy sparring contestant (aka pro Sports combatant) ? NO. Was he an ACTUAL Fighter like bouncers and Green Berets, and street gangs? YES. Was he as such because he knew actual Martial Arts? Hell yeah
@@paulpolpiboon9535 You know something I don't. Tell me a bit more about him being a real fighter ? Who did he fight and what were their credentials as worthy opponents ?
I lost interest when it said Bruce Lee was not a fighter. He was not a sports competition fighter but was more interested in fighting without rules. Street fighter. The comparison of Rocky Balboa and Stallone is ridiculous. Showing a lot of ignorance with that statement
The father of MMA. He never said he was invincible or unable to be defeated, but no one can deny that the sport of MMA would not be like how it is today if it weren’t for him
Lee did not create mma. It existed before lee was even born. Pankration, bartitsu, kajukenbo, combat sambo, vale tudo.... Lee did not even popularize mma. Mma blew up because of the 1st ufc event. What lee did, was influence a lot of people who saw his movies and read his books to take up and learn martial arts
@@GDCDGC no he was also one of the first people to influence others to mix martial arts and styles. You saw in the first UFC event that it was different styles vs each other, not styles mixed together like you see in modern MMA.
@@00wrongun Actually the talk is changing. From the early belief of Lee being a superhuman fighting machine to him being just a overhyped , over exaggerated martial arts movie star today. Reality has set in with people seeing actual MMA combatants in action vs just a movie set choreographed fight scene.
@@yoyo762 yeah sure but none of that changes his iconic status. Plenty of people understand that he wasn’t superhuman and also love the guy. You act like there’s no in between and that he represented nothing more than a bubble reputation which is nonsense. He was a massive cultural figure beyond the martial arts.
Yes he was a human being with flaws but still an inspiration to millions around the world. His success and fame show what can be achieved through sheer hard work and dedication.
There seems to be an obsession with tarnishing his legacy. Even if others were first to mix styles or whether Gene Bell considered himself the grandfather of MMA, the fact remains that no other person in history did more to advance martial arts globally than Bruce Lee. There's not even a close second. It's also well documented that he never went into competition because he was more interested in real fighting (though there's no doubt he would've excelled competitively). I for one studied his teachings &, having tested them all too often on the streets of NYC, found them to be 100% accurate. Lastly, considering his death wasn't drug related, the choice to bring up his penchant for drug use was in bad taste. Did the creatives figure their film would never be seen by Linda, Shannon & his other relatives? Just gross... The man did so much for martial arts & humanity that to see him get dragged through the mud like this is disturbing.
Bro, I couldn't agree more. It seems to be a bunch of jealous people that haven't achieved anything close to him in life, not to mention when his haters die, no one will talk about them or remember them. If you really think about it, in just 32 years, he did all that and attained a legacy like that... honestly, how many of us don't even know who we are in our 30s and feel like we wasted our 20s? Someone can be a skilled martial artist and work hard to reach their level, but it pisses them off that they still feel superseded by Bruce Lee because of his demi god status 😂 Really, when people are trying to bring you down, it only means that you're above them.
This has to be the worst documentary on Bruce Lee! Everything was negative. You can take anyone on this planet and look for negative things and everyone would have some. The title should of been” I hate Bruce Lee “or “Bruce Lee the fraud”. That man is a legend, he was a hero to us colored people, Latino, black, Asian, etc. He. He changed the martial arts world and the film industry. If it wasn’t for Bruce Lee martial arts wouldn’t be as popular as it today. Comparing him to a fighter of today is the stupidest thing you can do. It’s like me comparing myself to a boxer of the early 1900’s of course I would win! Technology and training has advanced. I prefer to listen to those who were martial art champions of his time and they said he was the best of his time.
@@cuzz63 It’s a known fact Bruce Lee didn’t compete in tournaments of those days, but it didn’t mean he couldn’t fight. Joe Lewis talks about Lees fighting ability in an interview so does Jim Kelly and a few others.
@@Spider_mancollecter Joe Lewis stated that Bruce wasnt a fighter...a great Coach. Chuck never stated it but implied it. Jim Kelly never met Bruce until near the end of his life and made some vague claims without any details or names which made all of his claims suspect. Really though dont take their claims good pr bad, do the research yourself and look up who he fought and when. He had no fights with any proven/tested fighters among the confirmed fights.
@@cuzz63 it was trash!!! But that’s my opinion. As far as research I have been researching Lee for 28 years,I have his books and a blackbelt in Jun Fan Gung Fu/ Jeet Kune Do but that’s besides the point. Lee wasn’t a fighter by profession like Norris, Lewis, Wallace etc, but didn’t mean he had no skills. Let me ask you this, how do you feel about Michael Jai White?
There are to many witnesses that have seen Bruce in real fights, these were dangerous fights, no rules, no referee etc.....please get over your hatred of this amazing man, what he accomplished most can only dream of.....
Obviously, he would lose to fighters today because the fighters are more skilled and stronger. But in the 1970s, in his weight class, he probably has a shot of being one of the better fighters since he was the first MMA-modeled fighter.
This video totally undermines this man’s legacy. His contribution to martial arts, movies and even philosophy is unsurpassed. His journey is the stuff of legend, he crammed more life into 32 years than most do in 65-80 years. People act like we all don’t have demons that need exercising, worse yet like we’re supposed view people in a different light because they do. Who gives a shit about who he could or couldn’t have beat, that’s child’s play, he defeated the most important opponent we will all face one day, MORTALITY. 50+ years later and he’s possibly more relevant now, than when he was alive!
When Chuck Norris asked Bruce "Who wins" Bruce replied "I do, it's my movie'. He was right, no martial arts movies have come close to being as influential as Bruce's and that is 50 years and counting.
not at all dude!! Bruce Lee was great in everything that he did, but he wasn't in everything he didn't, including being a fighter. Just because he's your idol doesn't mean he's good at EVERYTHING and it's ok to talk about it.
@@chimyshark Yes, but Bruce seems to attract a lot of criticism for claims he never made. This clip compared him to Sylvester Stallone which was a quite inaccurate comparison. As Bruce was a highly skilled martial artist who was also an actor. He never claimed to be a ring or tournament fighter.
Great UFC fighters are more sloppy than him in the striking and defensive game. And that includes Connor. Bruce is not unbeatable, but the least beatable pound for pound.
*You have karate champions, black belts, and other pro disciplines, saying Bruce was untouchable. But we are to believe your opinion? Nah, don't think so.*
Just because someone is a "professional" fighter doesn't mean that they are a great fighter. It's just like saying you went to school to be a "musician", whereas a naturally gifted person can excel in music and is a musical genius. You can CLEARLY hear the difference between someone who has been "schooled" in music from someone who "naturally" grasped music. Bruce just had a natural talent, he learned very fast and he put EVERYTHING into what he did. The man, simply, was a genius....PERIOD!!
Thats it. But not just that: It is simply totally ridicolous today when people try to make Point Karate as full contact, when it was nothing more then a tagging game. Even the late great Ed Parker Senior, who had a "professional fighting record" of 0-0-0 but was considered a very effective street fighter, and the founder of American Kenpo Karate and the Long Beach Karate tournament, said in an interview in the 80s: "Tournament Karate is NOT full contact Karate. The idea is to execute your strikes with full control. You winning matches by outscoring your opponent, not by killing them." Parker Sr. would laugh out loud if he would read all these millenium kids and/or Lee haters and/or Norris/Moore etc. fans try to sell Point Karate as full contact. Norris was a 6 times World Champion in a tagging game, same was Skipper Mullins 7 times. Something in general about Point Karate (not about Lee, only in general). Here are some fight records compared to professional Boxers and Muay Thai fighters: Sam Langford (Boxer): 314 fights Saenchai (Muay Thai): 378 fights Skipper Mullins (Point Karate): 1115 fights I am not absolute sure, but i think Langford and Saenchai are among the fighters with the most bouts across all full contact combat sports. I couldnt find anyone in Boxing or Muay Thai with 400 bouts and more. This should underline how "dangerous" Point Karate is compared to Boxing or Muay Thai. Langford and Saenchai togehter had 692 fights. Mullin's doesnt double that, but over 1100 fights just shows how much damage your body takes in Point Karate. World Champion in Point Karate doesnt make someone a tough guy, a skilled guy in a certain skill contest yes, but not tough or relevant to full contact combat sport or street fights (only adressed to the milenium kids on YT who always claim "Chuck Norris was a real fighter"). Maybe interesting for you (Edwin) and others: Lee historian John Little, who wrote many books about him and produced the documentary "A Warrior's Journey" in 2000, is gonna publish a new book in September 2023. "Wrath of the Dragon: The Real Fights of Bruce Lee". I posted it including a linke but some times if you post a link comments are invisible. This is the description: "Bruce Lee remains the gold standard that all martial artists are compared to. But could he actually fight? World Champions in karate competition have gone on record to point out that he never once competed in tournaments. Were his martial abilities merely a trick of the camera? For the first time ever, Bruce Lee authority and bestselling author John Little takes a hard look at Bruce Lee’s real-life fights to definitively answer these questions with over 30 years of research that took him thousands of miles. Little has tracked down over 30 witnesses to the real fights of Bruce Lee as well as those who were present at his many sparring sessions (in which he was never defeated) against the very best martial artists in the world. From the mean streets of Hong Kong, to challenge matches in Seattle and Oakland, to the sets of his iconic films where he was challenged repeatedly, this is the incredible real-life fighting record of the man known as the “Little Dragon,” who may well have been the greatest [street] fighter of the 20th century." Little said in a podcast in June 2022, in all his stuff he brought together after all these years, he ends up Bruce's street fight record was 36-0, and his sparring record was 27-0. Among the guys he sparred was Joe Lewis, but also the professional Heavyweight Boxer Joey Orbillo. Orbillo fought "Irish" Jerry Quarry in 1966. Quarrys credentials as pro Boxer: - 2 fights against Muhammad Ali, 2 losses - 2 fight agant Joe Frazier, 2 losses - 1 fight against Earnie Shavers, 1 win - 1 fight against Floyd Patterson, 1 win Quarry was able to KO Earnie Shavers, who is today the leading candidate for being the hardest puncher in Heavyweight History by certain Boxers and Boxing Historians (Ali, Larry Holmes, Hank Kaplan, Bert Randolph Sugar, etc.), in the opening round, but Obrillo was able to go the distnace with him. PS: It doesnt mean Lee was unbeatable. But its actually the first time someone publishes a book which only covers his street fights and sparrings. Besides Wong, Jack|man i am sure he will mention Yoichi Nakachi, but also Lau Dai|chuen in street fights. And in Sparring's there will be names like George Dillman (who was legit in the 60s, later he became a non touch fake dude), Jim Kelly and Louis Deldado.
People can negatively talk and make all kinds of negative comments towards him only after his death. Bruce Lee is far Above & Beyond being the GOAT of Father of MMA. Period. Bruce's great arts & personality still continue inspiring generations after another.
It’s time you left Bruce Lee alone ., he cannot defend himself .. many top martial artist have said how good he was .. I believe them .. Jim Kelly being one ..speed is a great asset he had that .. plus knowledge , size is only important we’re there are rules .. Bruce never played by rules .. competion sport is just that .. he was more a street fighter.. and all thease so called stars would not beat him …
ya man. had he lived on he would continue to train and master his JKD techniques to flawess execution. he would be ready for any fight also. his style is basically meant for the streets! not safety with rules bs. like all the scrubs hating on bruce love to throw on his legacy and question his fighter ability. its pitiful. also amusing the sly to ali comparison. ok when did sly dedicate his life to boxing tho? n train everyday of his life to perfect his art. go into researching boxing n all this stuff. sly is an actor. bruce was a combo of martial artist and actor. he continued his training and learning off screen. but haters gonna always say nah he just an actor. but fact is bruce could prove his prowess if need be. like all the fools who challenged him on set. off screen. we heard stories about. he even took out a legit chinese martial arts master guy by the triads or whatever back when he open'd his school. again no safety rules bs here it was like a death match deal. so its not like he is afraid of "real" fighters or putting his life on the line... also for the mans small frame he was still buff and could output good amount of power. along with his speed its not something to just brush off. its funny they think size plays such a win or lose factor. in the real fight there aint no weight classes! its all about ur own skill level here. n thats what bruce lee trained for and is the essence of his own unique style. jkd. he made himself into a living weapon. he aint gonna stand there n wait for an bigger slow opponent to grapple or get a heavy blow on him. like his style he will be countering and reading the challenger. but nah he just an actor!! lol. smh. but respect to all the real ones like jim and others who realized his potential as a fighter and stand by it. wish he got to live a full life. but its amazing what he did while he was alive... RIP bruce lee.
Well, this vid implies Lee couldn't beat the best fighters in the world at the time? Let's put it this ways it's unclear who'd have chance of beating bruce in hiscday. He had aura of invincibility mainly due to everyone, or rather many martial artists of day admitting he was the best.
Well it's fact so many of the day admitted he was easily the best they'd seen. So no wonder its unclear to people who they think could've beat him. Because the people who witnessed bruce aren't confident of anyone beating him.
Objectively, look at how Chuck Norris, one of the best martial artists of the time, moves in comparison with Bruce Lee in the film 'Way of the Dragon'.
I wonder why Bruce Lee was so respected by the martial community in America (including masters like Ed Parker) a decade before he became world famous with his first Hong Kong movie.
I think no matter what current day circumstance Bruce Lee would have been involved in, his Martial Arts would have excelled and evolved accordingly. I could see him doing stand-up with Stamp Fairfax or sparring with Sugar Ray; grappling with Judo Master.
Bruce Lee is the father of mixed martial arts! Long lived the dragon! Gene LeBell and Chuck Norris couldn't even touch Bruce Lee. He was too skilled and too fast! Jim Kelly said Bruce was better than them all!
@@stevo62ful Because I have a very old Interview where they both said it. Jim Kelly is one of the only people who says the same talking points about Bruce from back in the day and didn't change later like Norris did. People change their talking points today to make themselves look good.
"Oftentimes, people come up and say 'Hey, Bruce are you really that good?' And I say, well, if I tell you I am good, probably you will say I'm boasting, but if I tell you I'm no good, you'll Know I'm lying." #Bruce Lee RIP to the Legend, the one and only Bruce Lee.
Nobody is unbeatable. Bruce Lee was a great martial artist and the real deal. He did not have to fight as a profesional. And yet there were times when those who dared to challenge Bruce in a real fight situation, Bruce made them look stupid and slow! Long live the legacy of Bruce Lee since he left his art for all the world to love and appreciate!
"the real deal. He did not have to fight as a profesional." I know the real deal The Real Deal Holyfield who had to fight as a professional. Stallone also did not have to fight, and Stallone is in the Boxing Hall of Fame. I kid you not.
He fought so much on the streets in his youth he got sent to America to avoid jail. He also had street fights in America. Chuck Norris once admitted he could never beat Bruce. I believe it. Just compare the power & fire in their bellies. Bruce also had a ton of more knowledge about other systems of all ranges. Chuck did no touch point Karate. Bruce called it "dry land swimming" amongst other things.
"In the same way that no one would believe that Sylvester Stallone could beat Holyfield just because he played the role of Rocky Balboa." Someone might believe it if Holyfield had been so impressed by Stallone's prowess that he wanted to train with him, something that other fighters of great ability had done in Bruce Lee's case.
reg, my man. It's been a year since I asked you who Jim saw Bruce fight, and you STILL haven't replied. Looks like you are the one that doesn't know what you are talking about. Fanboy OWNED. 🤣🤣
Depending on your stance on Bruce Lee, you can't deny his huge impact on martial arts majority of martial artist and fighters today are in a way inspired by him.
He would have dominated his weight class without any doubt. Regarding bigger fighter it would depend who would have a better first strike. Just because someone was bigger it may not have guaranteed a win.
My friend was a Brown Belt under Jim Kelly who had a studio on Crenshaw Blvd in Los Angeles back in the day. Jim Kelly said that he witnessed Bruce Lee spar with all of the greats from back then and that no one could touch him. He said it wasn't even close. You should have done your due diligence and included that Jim Kelly Interview. It's here on RU-vid for everyone to see.
exactly, the bottom line is , all the people that are negative towards bruce are obviously very very jealous of how incredible he was, they just dont want to admit it
@@acefrehley929 Agreed. Even Bolo from Enter The Dragon said people would challenge him to fights on the set and Bruce would kci their asses. He even talks about how he and Bruce got into a fight as well.
He was human flesh blood and bone BUT one who took martial arts and the world of cinamatiic fight choreography to a totaly different levvel. so he was human wow. But shouldnt we remember those higher and truer parts of his being? Surely he earned deserve s that much
Totally agree with you, in fact, as noted in the beginning and in the conclusion as well as in the description of the video, Bruce is for us an admirable figure and we do not question his merits. He is also a legend for me! There are already many documentaries extolling his virtues, so we made this particular report to debunk hoaxes and reaffirm the truth, as we are strong advocates of critical thinking.
Bruce was a master at reading body language and he understood body mechanics. I have a lot of respect for him but not sure of he real fighting abilities. I'd say Chuck Norris would have beaten him but not without getting hit a few times.
Bruce did not point fight. He had many street fights. His classes started the idea of full force sparring with hockey helmets, pads, whatever they could find as there was no such equipment for martial arts back then... He trained with the top people in many styles in order to find out what really works when you do not hold back and there are no rules... The whole idea of a mix of martial arts for realistic self defense was started by Bruce Lee and his students who then went on to train pretty much everyone who then taught self defense in realistic fashion. See how many learned from just Larry Hartsell and Dan Innosanto, in the field of self defense...
@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 Sure he practiced full contact sparring, but there was most definitely headgear back then. Even back in 1917, Jack Dempsey had headgear made for him and there are photos of Bruce Lee with headgear, sparring with guys wearing "Everlast" headgear. Furthermore, whilst he did popularise the idea of realism, as this video states, he did not invent it, nor did he invent the first mixed martial art.
While comparing Bruce Lee with other martial artists and downplaying his magnificence in martial arts, these guys have forgotten that Bruce Lee designed his skills and went on to perfecting them in self-defence scenarios and not rings and octagons. Hence, he'd have an upperhand to anyone standing against him. His great skills, coupled with his nearly unmatchable speed and strength would make for his small stature. Bruce Lee may not have invented MMA as we know it in modern-day sense but he laid its base; thus, even though he is not father of MMA, he is its direct ancestor. In the film 'Enter the Dragon', he is wearing gloves exactly the same those worn in MMA nowadays.
Legit or not, he inspired many men to become a "Fighter". Even in this day and age with "MMA can beat anyone" attitude, most MMA fighters still have alot of respect for Bruce Lee and his "Adapt what is useful" attitude in improving yourself. Also, Bruce was a street fighter before he was even famous.
So you're saying Bruce Lee wasn't a fighter yeti was fighting his whole life on the streets of China wasn't in a street fight to where he beat up a police chief's son and his family had to get him out of the country to America
Superman inspired the world too. That's the thing. We know Superman is fiction. You think "Bruce Lee" is real. "Bruce Lee" is just as fictional as Superman.
Gene le bell was a monster of a man in his peak. I don't know who would win in a real fight with the dragon. I think he was in rapid fire with brandon Lee.
His reaction time was super quick and even a big man. He would be fast enough strong enough to land the first punch to weak areas of the body. Never forget that
People forget that Bruce Lee preferred only to spar with other renowned fighters and didn’t wish to fight them for real as he could easily kill them in more ways than one. This is why many great champions refused to challenge Bruce Lee to a real fight and only wished to learn from him. The unusual force and power that Bruce Lee displayed in his punches and kicks were more than enough to deter any would-be rival. He broke a tree! He kicked a boulder! Now imagine if that was your limb? Or your head?
Bruce Lee was a martial artist and an actor. Stallone was not a boxer and an actor. Bad comparison. Bruce Lee was real and showcasing his skills in his movies. Stallone was the actor doing Hollywood movies various roles. Bruce Lee was teaching the elites and developing new fighting styles. Stallone certainly wasnt teaching boxing nobody.
Horse picky, 70 years before him Edward William Barton-Wright created Bartitsu which was based on boxing,french savate, wrestling,judo, jujitsu and stick fighting
: Wrong. Your point is false. JKD never claimed to combine multiple arts (tho JKD was the most prominent + few had done so). Which means you don't know what JKD is. It never combined Arts, it's message was there are no separate arts, the division is an illusion. All Arts are aspects of the other, like saying the feet of an elephant is one type of elephant and then it's trunk is another type of elephant, so "there are two types of elephants; the trunk and the feet" but JKD states- No there are not two types, the feet + the trunk are both the elephant. So MMA tries to mobilize ALL the Arts together as ONE art or the minimum of two particular "Arts" working as a singular One, which is what they got from JKD, hence JKD is the father. So clearly you got that wrong. MMA/JKD are not claiming at all the practice of multiple Arts like you've accused, they are instead stating a uniform truth of all Arts. Which no one has done and you failed to realize Lee's accomplishment.
Bruce actually never said he was unbeatable. He admitted he was small, only 135 pounds and no match for the likes of Mohammad Ali, for example. But he could beat anybody off the street and did so. He could also beat anybody of his stature from other Asian-training schools and did so. And as someone who has used the same drugs as presented here, I actually don't compare those to steroids. And he was actually still really fast, as is expected with someone of his build. As for his death, that has nothing to do with him being legit. But you shouldn't ignore the fact that his son died in a similar manner to how Bruce's character died in "Game of Death," from a gunshot wound on set while filming. It is an odd coincidence, like one in a million. Like, it's actually the only time it's ever happened, and it was predicted in his father's last film.
Sorry, but this statement is literally a logical fallacy: "But the truth is that although Bruced did some semi-professional fights and some street antics in his youth, he was never a full time fighter, and therefore, he could never have beaten an elite fighter." That does not logically follow.
Bruce Lee was unarguably a great martial artist, but he was an actor above all ability. It was his motivation to reach fame. If he entered a professional ring, he would have been destroyed by several fighters of that day. Yes, other fighters and martial artists respected him for his philosophy, dedication to the arts, and discipline. He was afforded his fame and the untouchable fantasy cult of personality by his moment in time. There was no internet, no reliable fact checking, no in depth exposing of big stars. At his height, he was in a bubble and people let it happen because it was “that time”. If you didn’t grow up then, you don’t get it. He was still the inspiration for millions, and his philosophy holds up, but it doesn’t make Bruce Lee a super hero.
@@thevillageyid, lol, because he was a reputedly incredible fighter. The truth is, from his own words, that he wanted to be an actor. Martial arts films were just coming out and none had been made really well. He exploded the genre in a time when we were still willing to accept the mysticism from ignorance of eastern philosophy. I grew up then, got involved in martial arts myself because of a childhood weaned on Bruce Lee and Shaw Bros. Films. That crazy time of learning in the late 80’s before it all went soft, when we would really hit each other and smash patio blocks, and suck down the hokey chi based mysticism. Yeah, great times, but it is better to look back and appreciate the films and understand truth. Bruce Lee was an actor first, an athlete/martial artist second and a trainer to the Hollywood elites that of course talked him up. He wasn’t a fighter and everything about him is hearsay. All video outside his movies are his own demos, which are invalid sources of his greatness.
If they attack Bruce Lee, why don't they attack Ali, Tyson, Pele, Jordan as well? People just have their personal bias on everything. They were all really good for their era and way ahead of their time in some things. So respect those legends and learn what's useful from them 🤔🤔🤔
Well, they do. Many Basketball fans today say LeBron is better then Jordan, and even LeBron himself says so. And Pelé (RiP!) even gets attacked by guys like todays player Zlatan Ibrahimovic. He said something like: "Pelé is so damn overrated. During his time, i would have scored 3000-4000 goals. Messi is far superior to him, so is C. Ronaldo and many others like myself." And even if Ali gets much respect from Boxing people in the West, many ppl from eastern countries (Russia, Eastern-Europe) etc are not so nice to him. Many of them say they hail him so much but the Eastern European guys could have beaten him, and Tyson Fury could too. BTW Fury himself says he would beat Ali. And even his promoter who was Ali's promoter too, Bob Arum, stated Ali never fought a 6'9"=205cm / 273lbs=123kg guy who was so agile and fast as Fury.
Ali and Tyson proved themselves in combat. Pele proved himself in soccer. Jordan proved himself in basketball. Bruce never proved himself as a great fighter.
Bruce is still ahead of everyone. No one emphasizes broken rhythm, changing of distance and timing, change of reach. Being in the fighting major and how that changes depending on reach of opponent. Emphasize preparation of attack, reflexes, and counters against set counters and set techniques from different systems and styles. The influence from fencing and the emphasis on the lead and stop hit. To research all arts and understand the drills and techniques. To understand tactics and strategies against specific opponents. Mma has come a long way. But Bruce was obsessive and a genius
Bruce Lee had started martial art after a long period of street figthing ! That's why he was the first to say that the way of teaching martial art will not help in real fight !
haha this film shows mma decades before bruce lee ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8bmhuNRzPKQ.html if you look at the history of MMA it has nothing to do with bruce lee
Chuck Norris said he had to fight professionally to become famous enough to make movies . He said Bruce Lee didnt have to fight because he was already famous . Chuck Norris said if Bruce did he would have fought Bruce would have done very well very well . Yes he said very well twice . So is Chuck Norris a fanboy ? Thumbs down
I felt your did a disservice to man who inspired millions people around by trying to discredit him as a martial artist and without talking to people who really knew him train with and not just people bashing him with ax to grind. More importantly, you view the general public as fool's we knew Bruce Lee was human being and flawed like the rest of us and did not think he was God or else we would not die. Never the less, you should focus on why people more fifthy years later why is still revered..? With all things being considered , Bruce Lee serve as a inspiration that if you stay focus willing work hard sacrifice all your dreams can come true and never seen anyone like him before or since .
You know what, sometimes it's not about being the greatest fighter, it's about inspiring others to become Great. No body, I mean absolutely nobody inspired more people to become fighters than the man the myth -Bruce Lee!
Interesting when he was alive non of these guys had the balls to challenge him. Now that he is dead all these guys come out of the woodworks to say they can kick his ass...the jealousy of BruceLee simply outshining Norris, Lebell and everyone of his era; is still very raw today. Have some respect for a dead man who is literally legend and because of whom Martial Arts was populaized all over the world. It's a shame to disrespect him like that.
UFC welterweight Stephen "Wonderboy" Thompson, unusual among prominent mixed martial artists for being a karate stylist, amassed a 57-0 record as a professional and amateur kickboxer before joining the UFC. He knew Lewis personally and says Lewis told him one of the hardest kicks he'd ever endured was from Bruce Lee. Lewis was a heavyweight kickboxer; Lee was 5-foot-8 and weighed less than 150 pounds.
When u have the accolades of legitimate legendary bafasses like a gene Le Bell, Rickson Gracie, Joe Lewis, and Chuck Norris-u KNOW ur a bad bad man… doesn’t matter if he never competed professionally there is no reason for men like this to give him props if they didn’t see legitimate skill and insight.
@@KittyBoom360 Rickson Gracie and Joe Lewis were far more proven fighters than Bruce ever was. If I am wrong name aa fully verifiable real fight of Bruce outside of the waiter and part time kung fu teacher, Wong Jack man, and the schoolboy boxer Gary elms.
@@leesamardzija9165 Joe wasn't intterseted in training with Bruce until Mike Stone convinced him that Bruce had some good ideas. Joe's words in a 1985 interview was "Bruce was not a fighter, he was a teacher, he was a great teacher."
@@stevo62ful what was Bruce teaching him if not how to improve his fighting? Why would Joe continue to train with someone who wasn't a legit martial artist? Everyone knows Bruce wasn't a professional fighter, nobody argues that, but anyone who thinks nobody tried to test him due to his reputation is a fool.
Youve really screwed up this time, Bruce got sent to America because of street fighting, involving chains, machete and hatchets, he learnd the styles limited him, in films Bruce had to slow down as his movements were too fast, Bruces heavy bags were destroyed an had to be weighted with metal objects, 350KG ive heard, so i dont know why youve cherry picked this data to fit youour narrative, weird ?
Such a biased perspective. You keep repeating that "he dedicated his life to acting", that is objectively disingenuous. He dedicated his life to martial arts in the practical sense, as well as philosophy. Acting was just a side effect of that, not the his main focus. Fighting in a tournament does not produce practical "real fighters". Because depending on the rules of the sport fighters inherently develop bad habits that work inside that ring/octagon/cage, which puts them at a disadvantage in a real fight, where they don't have a cushioned floor to fall on or coach telling them what move to next make. Please do some more research on actual fighters not combat-entertainers.
There are many accounts of him having fights and brawls with rivals from other schools and on the street to support the assertion that he was a world class fighter. He grew up getting into street fights constantly. He already had lots of practical experience before he even started studying martial arts formally.
Wait, wait, wait… @ 4:10… you start off by saying he wasn’t a pro fighter. Then you go on to say “no one would think Sylvester Stallone could beat Holyfield, just b/c he played the role of Rocky Balboa”. Although Bruce Lee, did act, he trained EVERYDAY! He wasn’t built like an actor, He was constantly training. To think an current day athlete trains more than Bruce Lee did is 100% ignorant. Bruce literally would need to invent exercise machines, to train every part of his body. Bruce Lee would never fight in a bout with RULES. He taught groin kicks and eye gouging. If someone got him in a leg lock or choke hold, he would bite, scratch, and claw his way out. A fight with someone to Bruce, like he said “ let’s put it this way, I have no fear of opponent in front of me, I am very self-sufficient. They do not bother me. And then, should I fight? Should I do anything? I have made up my mind, and that’s it baby, you better kill me before…”
He was not real life pressure tested like true professional fighters are so it's difficult to rank him. He was a good guy, a great athlete and martial artist, and a legend though.
People saying that they know, for a fact, that Bruce Lee couldn't defeat a professional fighter, are as bad, or could be just as possibly wrong, as the ones who say that he could beat anybody and everybody. We will never know, for a fact, either conjecture, which conjecture and opinions are all either side of the controversy is.
Bruce had to be serious fighter because he was training hard to survive the streets to the point how to kill if necessary. Bruce knocked out Yoichi Nakachi, Japanese black belt in Jujitsu, Judo, karate , in 11 seconds. Bruce knows how to fight, he outclassed tournament fighters that came to see him, tested him, tested his JKD. Jesse Glover, 5th degree black belt in Judo couldn't touch Bruce. People keep forgetting Bruce was dead serious becoming his own best martial artist and how to be survivor in the streets.
If Bruce Lee was not a fighter; if Bruce Lee did not understand the concepts of the martial arts, how could the man choreograph so many fight scenes, how could the man form his own fighting style. It seems that the narrator of this documentary does not appreciate the skills of this great martial artist. It is always easy to speculate after the fact.
@@TRNGL while joe lewis and Jim kelly said bruce was the best they was fighters right ,you dudes put bruce down because he wasn't white,y'all the want a non white to be the best ever !!
@@TRNGL in the ring yes he was in a street fight bruce would beat him easy hands down bruce hands and feet was quicker than ali and bruce learn judo and j utsu ,bruce once beat 4 big wrestlers the scene was in the dragon movie about bruce lee that scene was real so bruce can beat grapplers to in a street fight no rules nobody can touch bruce he will kick them big dudes first two or three times in the balls hard with his speed and power they going down quick but I'n a ring or cage fight it's rules so they beat bruce lee little ass bruce biggest weight was 165 not 135 ok I study bruce all my life somebody will beat his ass in a street fight no man invisible but I never saw or Heard of anybody all people in bruce lee past say he was the best all of them and the man use to fight all the time in street fights this white your white crowd say I'm not being racist or anything I'm a black man ok bruce put down chinese fighting and talk down on there fighting around white people time after time now y'all white people talk about him call him fake ,I don't think bruce care for my kind at all he love y'all white people but I'm real bro I give any man there respect and I'm not racist ok ,hulk hogan my favorite wrestler, Mike Smitht from philles my favorite baseball player,can marino my favorite quarterback I can go on ok my god mom and god brother and sister white facts,I stop white people from getting beat up plenty of times ,had sex with alot of white girls shit my favorite teacher is white and Dr and nurse is white , when bruce was alive you white people call him the best now put the man down sad while that's what he get old do you bro
Thanks for making this documentary. As much as I like Bruce Lee's movies, sometimes I feel there are as many stories about Bruce Lee as there are for Chuck Norris, the only difference is Bruce Lee fanatics believe they are all real. As an icon, Bruce Lee created that aura of being unbeatable and untouchable, his fans tend to forget he was a person, not the icon that sold movies.