Was Harvey Beaks Treated Fairly by Nickelodeon? 

It makes complete sense after watching this that C.H. Greenblatt ditched cable animation to work in the realm of streaming, where content isn't confined to timeslots. Great analysis!

The way Greenblatt overestimated the amount of hours Nick aired the show sounds like the punchline to a Monty Python sketch in the saddest way possible.

Jesus Christ, I knew Harvey Beaks got screwed over, but I didn’t think it would be this bad. I know it wasn’t a fan favorite Nicktoon, but it didn’t deserve this kind of treatment

Networks often do this. They keep the shows people hate but they cancel the shows people love. I don’t see any logic there whatsoever.

Nicktoons is Nickelodeon's cemetery.

This is just another example of how truly shortsighted Nickelodeon is. Harvey Beaks was royally screwed over like My life as a Teenage Robot, Chalk Zone, The Legend of Korra and many others because Nick likes to play favorites and dump those they saw as dead weight.

This is really eye opening. I knew Harvey Beaks was treated badly but this is just unacceptable. Nickelodeon is just like the WWE, barley using people, then being surprised when their not popular.

How can they disrespect Greenblatt? He was a great writer on SpongeBob and wrote amazing episodes like Band Geeks!

I think making more videos like this would be interesting, like My Life As A Teenage Robot, Invader Zim, and Chalkzone

I think it was a good show, a shame it barely aired.

Let's be real, Welcome to the Wayne was screwed over way more. People barely got to even know the show before it disappeared for over a year *before* finally airing like two-thirds of its run on Nicktoons. The fact you reading this probably haven't heard of it says a lot.

I was aware of this show but I had stopped watching Nick with any regularity outside of the occasional Dan Schneider show at that time. The whole airing the same episode multiple times in the same week is something Nick does on a regular basis especially when they are trying to get people interested in a new show. They air the latest episode consistently in the week between that one and a new one. Once they have a good amount of episodes for reruns they mix it up a little bit but find one episode in particular and make sure that episode is run more often than all the others. They did a decent job with premiering Harvey Beaks same day as KCA’s. Some of the biggest shows in Nick history premiered those days like Spongebob and Angry Beavers. Putting Harvey Beaks same day as Spongebob is always a good sign especially when it was the first new episode since like “Spongebob, You’re Fired!” I’m not quite sure what the ratings were like then because I don’t remember there being a lot of hoopla surrounding the return of Spongebob at that time. I was slowly coming around to maybe believing the show was just petering our like how they burned off the last half of the final season of Fairly Oddparents on Nicktoons. However I have always believed that Spongebob is Nick’s Mickey Mouse and the network simply cannot exist on cable tv if Spongebob goes away. Nick realized this and exploited Stephen Hillenburg’s death as an opportunity to expand on the Spongebob brand which is disrespectful to Hillenburg’s legacy but that’s a conversation for another time. In terms of this video, Harvey Beaks was a show I just thought existed but maybe just ok and therefore didn’t last long. It had an ok life in reruns on Nicktoons but recently they have replaced it with the newer shows of Casagrandes and The Loud House and older reruns of Back at the Barnyard and Tuff Puppy. I could see this show either being revived on a streaming service or becoming a cult favorite a la Invader Zim, which was a show I despised in its original airings and perhaps need to give another chance as an adult.

Message of the story Nickelodeon is a lousy company who only relies on a Sponge 🧽 .

The fact that it wasn't even formally cancelled, it was via a tweet just says so much about how little they cared.

These days, if a show isn't IMMEDIATELY as successful as Spongebob, Nickelodeon wants nothing to do with it. That's how they've been since at least 2007. They ought to thank their lucky stars that they didn't have this attitude back in the 90s, because Spongebob itself would've been canceled after one season. That may seem like a ridiculous statement to people who weren't alive or too young to remember when Spongebob first premiered, but it's true. It wasn't some magical cartoon that exploded into superstardom right out of the gate. Rugrats was still the more popular show for the first year or so of Spongebob's life. It was through constant word of mouth and brilliant fucking material that Spongebob became what it is. Or rather, was.

This is why Cartoon Network is better. At least with most of their shows (RIP OK KO), they give them fair chances and run with what they have. Shows like Steven Universe, Adventure Time, and Regular Show were widely loved, and CN new that and kept them going, and stopped production simply when the creators felt it had a good run. Nickelodeon will just throw out any good idea they have because it doesn’t get as much attention as SpongeBob. Well, of course it wouldn’t do as well as SpongeBob, ITS SPONGEBOB! The only cartoon they actually cared enough to have around that didn’t go to Nicktoons from my memory was The Loud House, because... oh I dunno... they GAVE IT A CHANCE! And because of that, it got good recognition. But with all their other shows, they just barely care enough to take at least 5 SpongeBob reruns out of their schedule to make room for their new show. And yet, they still expect the world from it. I mean, do you really think a show like PigGoatBannanaCricket would stand a chance against SpongeBob?! Yeah, no. But that doesn’t mean you should stop caring about it.

If you think how Nickelodeon handled Harvey Beaks was bad, you should see how they handled Welcome to the Wayne. Only 9 episodes premiered on Nickelodeon, then it never aired anywhere for a full year, then all the rest of the episodes (half of season 1 & all of season 2) aired on Nicktoons. I will always stand by that WTTW was the worst-treated Nicktoon. I think Harvey Beaks get singled out the most as a horribly treated Nicktoon due to creator C.H. Greenblatt publicly speaking out when the controversy regarding the show’s cancellation broke. Billy Lopez never said anything similar when WTTW got screwed over.

Its things like this that make me never wanna pitch my original ideas and stories to a major TV network

Yeah, this is about what I expected. Nickelodeon puts an unwarranted insane amount of faith in a new show in its first few weeks, and the moment they don't deliver on the network's expectations, the show is thrown away like garbage. "Give us immediate success, or you will immediately fail, just like everything else we make."

They were just too focused on SpongeBob to air Harvey Beaks.

game theory: is pieguy really made of pie?

The Loud House is the only show Nick has actually treated fairly besides Spongebob in the last 5-10 years.

That's a real shame. It's easy to forget just how much more effort it takes to develop an animated series. SEVEN YEARS of this guy's life undone by an ambivalent network that'd rather milk the Spongebob cash cow. I can't blame them for pushing their biggest hit of a show, but damn. Not at the expense of a show barely given a chance.

It was treated terribly, much like shows like Catscratch and Mr. Meaty were before it

Putting your show on Nickelodeon is a deathwish

It really sucks what happened to this show. But man, does Nickelodeon do this to a lot of their cartoons. There have been so many that were sent to NickToons to die. If there's a cartoon that may have been screwed over more though, it would be Pinky Malinky. It was announced to air on Nickelodeon, on their own channel and website, and kept getting delayed until it ended production and was shoved onto Netflix. I don't believe it got much notoriety.

Another goog cartoon getting screwed by Nickelodeon is GlitchTechs. It's not perfect but the series is a lot of fun! They just directly send it to Netflix thinking it wouldn't do well(got good reception though) and it struggled a lot just to get a second season. I really, really want more seasons, it's my comfort show.

Harvey Beaks was such an iconic show with good ratings. Dumping it to Nicktoons was definitely one of Nickelodeon’s worst mistakes.

With the poor treatment the Legend of Korra got from Nick several years ago when it came to little advertising for Book 3 to suddenly putting the rest of Book 3 and Book 4 online out of nowhere (alongside not giving Bryke the proper time to properly plan out the entire story of Korra with the original plan being only one book) and then hearing about Harvey Beaks to hardly seeing it air on the network, Nick has really angered me with how little they seem to care about their programming (especially when it comes to cartoons that are not Spongebob). I haven't watched the channel since 2013 when Book 3 of Korra was airing on TV and it saddens me that C.H. Greenblatt got such poor treatment with his project he worked on for over seven years only for it to be thrown away into obscurity. When I was a kid watching Nick during the early 2000s to early 2010s, they seemed to have cared at the time but it feels like it's a ghostown these days and disrespecting creators such as C.H. Greenblatt and the late Stephen Hillenburg with the Kamp Koral spinoff (which was against Stephen's wishes since he didn't want spinoffs). Unless Nick shows signs of improvement and has content I can get invested in, I won't be watching their network anytime soon.

No! Harvey Beaks was not treated fairly because Nick saw that I didn’t have good ratings and decided to move it to Nicktoons to die. *Harvey Beaks was a good show. The creator of Harvey Beaks also created Chowder and had the same aspect and passion for it. Nick is not the same as it once was :(

Two months. They gave this show TWO MONTHS to live up to SpongeBob. Are you fucking serious? Here I was thinking something like a year, and even THAT isn't enough. SpongeBob ITSELF didn't even become that popular that fast! Sure, it was fairly popular from the start, but it took about a year or two to rise to the overwhelming success it is now, didn't it? But they don't want their shows to be "fairly popular," they want them to be the next SpongeBob. Whoever is running this network is delusional.

I can’t recall seeing Harvey Beaks everyday on Nick, but fucking hell, I don’t remember it being this absent front the network.

Seems like a very clear and cut case of Nickelodeon's approach of new shows needing to be succesful at the spot and not giving it time to grow popular.

I was actually babysitting some kids the night Harvey Beaks aired for the first time. Cause we were watching the Kids Choice Awards and we happened to catch this airing. It was such a cute show, it's ashame what happened to it.

Not only that but the HB Fandom is dying. Me and my buddies try and make HB content so we can keep the show alive one way or another but it seemed to have failed for a while but it's going really well lately. I think the HB Fandom may be alive and getting more fans after all...

A better question would be is there any show that Nickelodeon didn't treat unfairly? Seriously those guys might just be the worst network out there

This honestly doesn't surprise me in the least knowing track record of this kind of behavior , and the fact that's way it is really sadness me .

The X's and Catscratch are the worst offenders, to the point where they don't even acknowledge them. Like, I've heard that they were making more Avatar spinoffs, and the only thing I am thinking about all of this is this: Did you guys just forget that you made 2 other shows in 2005? You could try to make those 2 shows more memorable to people instead of making more series of a show that already worked.

This is despicable... Harvey Beaks didn't deserve all the crap it got...

Is this going to be a regular series where a look is taken at how much airtime a show got? Also if you thought Harvey Beaks got the raw end of the deal (which it undoubtebly did), wait until you see what happened with Welcome to the Wayne.

Oh, and here are the cartoons Disney screwed over by putting it on Disney XD: -Wander Over Yonder -The 7D -Future-Worm! -Milo’s Murphy Law -Billy Dilley’s Super Subterranean Summer -DuckTales 2017 -Big Hero 6: The Series

In my opinion Harvey Beaks was not treated well

Nickelodeon cancelled harvey bearks and most episodes of breadwinners Hearvey beaks is good creative and funny But Breadwinners is sh*****

I’d love to see this become into a series. This wasn’t the only show treated in this same way, airing it frequently when it had few episodes then burning it off and not giving it another chance. Heck this isn’t even the only network that did this. I think all three main networks are guilty and I think this whole formula needs to be further investigated. Still, a good video that makes you think about how shows are treated.

Jeez...at first, it actually seemed like they were giving it a chance. Then May 2015 came and they basically stopped trying entirely! Also, why would you run a Christmas special not even HALFWAY into December?! It’d make more sense to air it around the 15th or closer to the day. It just comes off as them wanting fodder for what they were airing back then.

I really want Harvey Beaks(along with other nicktoons, because 2021 is their 30th anniversary) to be on Netflix SO BAD

Man haven't heard about this series in a few years, maybe since 2016 or 2017.

It still absolutely frustrates me how this show was treated. I loved this show so much when it was on, and it’s a huge shame what happened to it. I feel so sorry for CH Greenblatt and I hope he’s doing better with the new show he’s working on now

Was Harvey Beaks treated fairly by Nickelodeon? No, absolutely not. I have barely watched this show myself, but the fact that Nickelodeon barely gave the show a chance is disgusting. As Pieguy pointed out, Harvey's and SpongeBob's ratings in September 2015 weren't too different. If Harvey aired more consistently, the show could've been more successful. I'm not sure if it would ever be as popular as SpongeBob, but at least do good. After all, SpongeBob had consistent airings back in 1999, when it was a new show. And to SpongeBob's credit, Nickelodeon barely air new SpongeBob episodes either. Episodes can be put on hold for months, even years. I'm disappointed in Nickelodeon. How can they treat a cartoon like that? Is that even good for business?? And as a SpongeBob fan myself (yes, still), this kind of treatment of cartoons will only cause more vitriol towards SpongeBob, which infuriates me.

Harvey Beaks deserves better.

Not only Nick but CN and Disney also screwed over some of their cartoons: Here are the cartoons CN screwed over: -The Moxy Show -Robot Jones -Megas XLR -Juniper Lee -Chowder -Flapjack -Adventure Time (Seasons 7-10) -Regular Show (Season 8) -Sym-Bionic Titan -Robotomy -Secret Mountain Fort Awesome -Steven Universe (during 2017 and 2018) -Mighty Magiswords -OK KO! Too lazy to tell how did they got screwed over.

This is an interesting format i wouldn’t mind seeing more of this

Honestly it wasn't such a bad show but I feel like it was suppose to be on Cartoon Network

The Cyma era is something I won't miss at all. The first few years were fine especially with the Nicktoons Thanksgiving 2007 marathon (where they aired all the first episode of their cartoons that they had up to this point). But once iCarly became successful, Nick decided to put animation to backside and focus more on live-action sitcoms that were rather similar to Disney (I respect them, but I hate how much they got promoted more than the new Nicktoons at the time). And the management were really harsh on new cartoons. I'm just glad we have a new president who knows how to treat animation with respect.

Sadly it is not new that Nickelodeon are not giving their new shows the chance that they deserve if they don't hit the high ratings of SpongeBob. Somehow, The Loud House did manage to have that luck. The rest, though - no high rating, no for Nickelodeon. -_-

I was never a fan of the show but yeah the way Nickelodeon treated it and many other shows is disgusting.

I think that’s what Nick usually did with new shoes, continue to re ran the same first episodes for a couple weeks from what I recall

Another instance of Nickelodeon screwing over the show early on was airing a few episodes on Sundays.

Great Job on the video Pieguy. I myself was shocked at how empty Harvey Beaks’s airtime was. Also on the note of Nicktoons not being available on a lot of cable packages there were some cable providers outside of some cable companies. You could not even watch it in High Definition (HD) and could only watch in Standard Definition (SD).

This is a really good video, PieGuy. This was really eye opening, as I had known they didn't treat this show well, but I hadn't known just the extent at which it was mistreated. I really really liked this show, at least the few episodes I saw, and after seeing this video, I want to give it another chance. I'm a huge fan of C.H. Greenblatt's work, especially his work on spongebob and of course Chowder, both shows I grew up with. I feel so sorry for the guy, after his hard work creating this show was smothered by nickelodeon and the sponge. It's just ... Tragic.

Herb Scannell was just like Cyma Zarghami. The only good president Nickelodeon ever had was Geraldine Laybourne.

3:54 Reruns were actually SUPER important for cable, and SpongeBob' s and The Loud House's ability to still have strong ratings with reruns was crucial for their success. I mean, from channel's point if view, they get to make the same ammount of ad money for doing nothing, it's a dream come true

Well, clearly, they couldn't replace the precious Spongebob reruns on the main channel I guess.

When you realize nick treated fanboy and chum chum better than Harvey beaks

I wasn't really allowed to watch anything but Spongebob on Nickelodeon, but saw a few episodes of this while on vacation. I don't really remember much about the episodes, but I think I enjoyed them. It's really sad to see Nick treat cartoons poorly just because they don't get the same viewership as a longer running, more popular cartoon.

I watched every episode of Harvey beaks. And let me tell you that this show was doomed for failure from the start. I remember when greenblatt announced the show on tumblr. One question came from a fan saying “I loved this show but why is it on nick?” He responded by saying because they believed in me (I’m paraphrasing) . It says a lot about the network when that was a frequently asked question before the show was even cancelled. I remember before the show even aired there wasn’t much promotion on the premiere outside of a few weeks maybe even a month. Meanwhile I remember seeing sneak peeks and lots of promotions of loud house months before it premiered. I love loud house as much as I loved harvey beaks but even I noticed that nick was airing and promoting The later show wayyyyyyy more than the former and it shows. because harvey beaks crumbled and was sent to die within 2 years. while the loud house is still here nearly 5 years later. Had nick gave out equal promotion and reruns we’d probably wouldn’t even be having this conversation.

I would love to see a video like this for Korra

I admit, that I never really got into Harvey Beaks. It just sadly wasn't for me. But even then, I feel sorry for it's fans and creator here. This is ridiculous.

Maybe Harvey Beaks should air on CN! At least they give their shows a chance, UNLIKE SOME NETWORK!!!

HARVEY WAS GROOMED BY NICKELODEON!? Oh wait, thank god.

I’d definitely enjoy more videos in this format!

Huh, I was literally just listening to the Re-cast where you briefly talked this over with Monsters!

Please make more videos like this. This is amazing stuff

Can you do the same with the legend of Korra? I recall one of the season finales being the same weekend of Brian Griffin being killed off in Family Guy.

Nicktoons is pretty much a graveyard channel now and it'd be interesting to see a video on that deevolution.

What's worse the Treatment of Harvey Beaks or profitting off a dead man and trying to make a Spongebob spinoff knowing he didn't want spinoffs. Starting to get tough

Nickelodeon 2016 Miraculous Ladybug (Moved To Disney Channel After Season 1 In 2017) Alvinnn! & The Chipmunks (Moved To NickToons) The Loud House (First Episode Released In 2016) SpongeBob SquarePants Harvey Beaks Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2012 Version) (Moved To NickToons) Sanjay & Craig (Moved To NickToons) Breadwinners (Moved To NickToons) Fairy OddParents (Moved To NickToons In 2017)

I remember reading on TV Tropes that they suddenly bring Harvey Beaks back after June, when The Loud House became a huge hit. I'm honestly wondering if there were any Loud House episodes that aired alongside Harvey, because apparently both Halloween episodes aired alongside each other and they immediately decided to rerun Tricked a butt load of times (which I do remember that happening). Also, I'll be real, it shouldn't matter if a Halloween episode doesn't air on Halloween. As long as it's on October, it's fine for a Halloween episode to air.

I remember watching Harvey beaks Both on Nickelodeon & on Nick 2 to help it's ratings, Nick 2 is some weird channel that's Nick's Schedule but from a couple hours earlier.

This is a giant yikes...like at this point cartoonist would just not wanna mess with any company if their series is gonna end up like this. Which just makes me sad knowing that there are good/non-toxic cartoonist/group who want to make a show since they spent their years of studying. Only for companies to just flat out cancel it.

I want to also add that in the premiere date of the "Spitting Tree" putting the show before SpongeBob was a big deal not only being the new episode in over a year but also remembering that "Sponge out of water" released earlier in the year so Spongebob was again on the mainstream mind with the second movie. If they wanted it, Harvey Beaks could've had a big chance if they premiered more episodes earlier and rerun it a bit more. It is also mindblowing how hard Nick ditched it in the first 2 months. Is like a new executive came and wanted it off the radar. Guess what? here in my house, we're changing cable provider and Nick's main channel is now outside basic pack so I don't have to support in any way Nick with their scummy practices. and with the programming they have, might as well be Boomerang with the same shows on repeat. I still love SpongeBob and other Nicktoons but this network has shown nothing but contempt to its creators. Hope that someday it can change for the better but I don't see that happening.

Thanks for making this video bro it was cool have a nice day😀

I wrote an essay on how badly Nickelodeon treated "The Brothers Flub". I went into full detail.

Thank you for bringing this into light Pieguy

love ur vids wish i got them more in my recommended feed :/

The head executives at Nickelodeon deserved to be doxxed for what they've done, especially Brian Robbins!

My heart broke when you said Nick aired Harvey Beaks for 11 hours in 2016

And now they did the same thing with Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

Snazzy new intro! I dug this fomat, it ended up being really interesting.

Thank goodness that was confirmed. Can you please do Rise of TMNT airdate ratings? It's because I was quite curious how this one got treated much worse than Harvey Beaks and I watched it on kimcartoon first and then amazon prime video for the rest of season two along with season 1 finale.

Honestly, this modern cartoon deserved justice. Btw please review Sponge on the Run

It stinks that Nickelodeon was screwing around with Harvey beaks, but that show deserves to be treated better in my opinion. The reason why I got into this show is because it has so many interesting characters and Charming story telling. Hopefully maybe Netflix or paramount+ can pick it up for a revival.

Man this is a cool video I know you don't like the franchise but you could do something like this for Rise of the TMNT, it was also treated badly by nick

June 2016 context was in a bomb format because they aired it back to back with new episodes of the then newest nicktoon “loud house” which premiered a month prior in May

Didn’t expected to be out early

this show is so screwed that in Latin america the dub is almost fully lost and as of now it isnt on any streaming service

Honestly I think most people didn’t get into even when the show first came out .It’s hard for everyone to get into a show especially when it’s new .I mean pony is the best example when the show started this year and I can guarantee that not everyone probably enjoyed it

Tbh every Nickalodeon show past 2010 have been screwed over by Nick one way or another

Yeah, The Mighty Ones definitely got lucky to be on Hulu, cause holy shit this is EVEN worse than I excepted. And I excepted the worst...

Yo, PieGuyRulez! Could you please talk about how Nickelodeon screwed over Welcome to the Wayne next? I loved that show, but Nick treated it pretty unfairly.