Yes PLEASE continue with this story. Many many people want and need to know the truth! It will contribute greatly to more youngens *NOT falling pray* to the same thing.
Yes I agree, and of course waited until after the funeral, she’s probably feeling anger now which will make her ask more questions! My heart bleeds for her and her family 💙💙💙
Ofcos he would have stoped at the cliff the dog was looking strait down and i mean strait down so how come brad said he spoke to him and he was sliding dwn the rocks he wdnt slide down a drop as sharp as that he wd have gone rigut over bollucks he was pushed over i tk bradly is been worned to shut his mouth up
It would not have been dark at 8am or after in Tenerife. Why would anyone say arrived alive and left alive, who even says such a thing! Only one reason to be hanging around with career criminals and it’s not to go to an after-party. No dealer gets rich by using their own product, just saying.
Hi Harsh and crew, hope all well... what was that all about when Ophelia, shut the café up and told Jay's dad and brother to go away... as a mother, if someone was genuinely making an enquiry about a lost individual I had last spoken to, the last thing I would do would be blank them, shut up shop and hide away from the grieving relatives, absolutely cold hearted, smh...
@michelleobrien359 tbh I wonder if she was sick.of all the attention but didn't realise who they were No doubt the press would have been hounding her and she had enough
@@kikifengari4751this makes sense as maybe it was where he stole the watch? How do you steal a watch? You would either need to force it from someone’s person or take it from their home! Can’t see jay taking it off someone but possible he tried to take it if it was left in lying around which would need to be in a home not in a club or on the street- or like jays mum said this was all made up and jay was not even conscious in the watch photo!
@@kazziesopinionsIt is understandable that a mother does not want to hear anything bad about her child in public after this tragedy. Be it the theft of a watch or that he was connected to a drug cartel. But what cannot be ruled out is that he took drugs. Look at the photo of him at the rave festival where he has his mouth open so unnaturally that it doesn't look healthy and a waitress even gave him a glass of water. So he was not well. And after 3 days at a festival, maybe little sleep and a lot to drink, a hard drug can really do the rest. There are many cases where people have died after taking hard or synthetic drugs. It doesn't necessarily have to be a murder, but the person who gave them the drugs is just as guilty if something bad happens. So that person would have a big problem, and would probably try to deflect it by staging it like an accident. Maybe. The two of them offered him help when they saw he wasn't well and took him to p. Garden a few kilometres away, and only then did things get dramatic. From there, they could have calmly planned to make it look like an accident. I don't know, my imagination is running wild too. Anything is possible
According to poor Zak, who is missing his bro, he said the Air Bnb lady who was the last person to see Jay alive turned her back on Zak and Warren when they came to the Air Bnb - and try to see what happened where she saw him ?? - she closed the shutters and put chairs in and ushered them away ???? How rude - WTAF ??? DODGY !!! She meant it was dark when he left the NRG festival with the 2 Ronnies - Didn't know where they were taking him, he may have thought was local to where he was stating - wasn't dark on the Monday morning, she said that HARSHY. Also Debbie is annoyed with Lucy for calling the police before her ? when he went "missing" and then started a gofundme on the bloody Monday ??? - Debbie didnt know apparently - ? - why did they not jump into a taxi to meet him at the way point on his phone - so is an engaging interview.
on the photo in car with sunglases on its time says 9.41 pm and hed been kicked out of nrg over ap watch his bag got took so how come it was placed next to the remains in revine a feel for his family i got 2 sons me self it dont matter wat past no one has the right to take there life
@@moonboot-ff3dbThat's also something I'm questioning, the sunglasses. Why was he wearing sunglasses in the dark? Could he have already been deceased?
The fact that the only person whom saw Jay was Ophelia just didn’t sit right with me from the start !!! Again she was the only one that saw him fifteen minutes later going in the wrong direction and said and did nothing is very suss!!! He was in an area where there are hikers etc and no one , no one else reported seeing him on the road up until he allegedly went off road ??? What about the people that asked Ayub to move his car they must have seen Jay as Ayub said while moving the car he saw Jay in the mirror so where had the people that asked Ayub to move his car ??? According to others there is traffic early in the morning and hikers setting out hiking yet no one else saw Jay !!!????
We don't know that. Jay wasn't missing at the time so seeing another hiker perhaps didn't register. We also don't know whether anyone who may have seen Jay did contact the police to tell them. The Guardia Civil keep everything close to their chests.
It was never mentioned where she was going did she past jay while she was driving up to her cafe at the tourist spot to get ready to open if so wouldn't she have seen jay again as that was the route he took past there a women who owns an air b^b with a ajurning shop and a cafe at the tourist information site with all different people daily on the mountain she will meet and carnt speak a word of English not one ummmm
@heathera2709 I think Airbnb is decoy simply to explain why his body would be discovered up in mountains they had to drag the 2 lads into it and say he went for a party up in mountains with them that's why them 2 blokes are so cocky they been paid off to say he went up there with them or someone covering the truth of jay been stabbed by Brandon on the beach with lucy shouting why did you stab him ,,,the video been removed and they claim it was 9 years ago if so why has nobody else seen it before or why hasn't the so called people from 9 years ago came forward,,that makes more sense to me ..
@@AlanH-u9o yes I know but you would think someone else would have seen him there wasn’t even any mention of police etc speaking to the neighbours at Airbnb but then again they let Ayub and Rocky leave as they were focusing on were his phone last pinged
@@jeancunningham8013 The Tenerife police let very little into the public domain so we don’t know what they’re investigating or what their thinking is. I don’t think anyone knows what’s going on so I’m going to wait until the inquest which could be months away yet. I just hope the Spanish forensics team got to see the body and surroundings before it was whisked away by helicopter. That could tell us a lot.
I think when Debbie said "it was dark" she was referring to the trip up to the AirBnb when it was dark and he would not have been able to orientate himself .
I’m glad you’re covering this case still. I’m glad his mum has come out and said she has questions it stops the “let the case go” goons from letting people getting maybe to the truth.
Debbie Duncan said, "There were calls with people saying: ‘We know where Jay is, he’s done this, he’s done that,’” she said. “Some were from people screaming Jay’s name or saying he had been stabbed on a beach. And, oh, my God, the stories, they were just unreal. Absolutely unreal. People were saying: ‘He’s in a hole, he’s chained up.’ “It was just disgusting, absolutely disgusting. I wouldn’t wish it upon anybody, the torment that I’ve had to go through, and that I’m still going through.” She said the family were “sucked into” some of the conspiracy theories, clinging on to any hope Slater was still alive.
I think jay was spiked, taken or coerced into going with those grown men , something has happened that morning which led him to run for his like , I’m a mum and Nani , and my red flags are flying sexual abuse 😡
I said the same a while ago. I'm certain he was spiked with a heavy dose of something, extreme psychosis kicked in and he wandered off into the wilderness.
Hi Harsh you look amazing as usual. I think it's amazing that you're asking the uncomfortable questions despite the detractors. Keep up the good work as it has the potential to save lives. Love from South Africa 💙💙
Jays brother said Ophelia put her hand up in his face and quickly dragged the chairs in and shut the shutters of her cafe, when he went with his Dad to ask questions. She didn't see Jay! I always thought that from the beginning. The photo on the doorstep was a massive red flag from the beginning. I hope when the family have had time to grieve and build up some strength, they dig deep for answers. They need closure. So long as they realise the decent British public are behind them and that's why videos like this are important. Trolls and bullies will always be who they are, emotionally retarded! Just keep on keeping on. Debbie and family for justice for Jay and you Harsh for pushing the fact that nothing is quite as it seems..
We need to keep the pressure up on this case, his mum is now questioning thie narrative , Lucy is a tenerife slapper and is covering for rocky and bullwinkle
To be honest, I wasn't a great lover of DD, primarily because she seemed to be accepting the bullshit narrative, and that funeral! But, we are all different I suppose and do things differently. The film of her singing along to Mr. Vain, will be an image that will stick with me for a while. However, now she is speaking out and asking questions, I have much more respect for her. Keep pushing this people. The whole situation is a f**k up. I would love to see certain people investigated in relation to this crime.
Thanks for all the research Great Show so glad Jay’s Mum is asking the same questions as us and his bro is appearing on camera. Hopefully they’re going to keep up asking questions.
I hope through all of Debbies grief she'll listen to that mothers intuition as she seems through her utter distress and heartbreak to be questioning the narrative. A mother always knows.... theyve got eyes in the back of their heads which is why you cant get nothing past a mum..... Whatever has happened to Jay i hope Debbie keeps asking until she is satisfied. Strength and love ❤️
I feel totally different about jays family...I am delighted that they are questioning everything....I must admit I am beginning to understand the stance they took WHICH MADE US ALL HORRIFIED....NOW I GET IT ...THEY WERE LOOKING FOR ANSWERS 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 I AM SORRY TO JAYS MUM FOR DOUBTING HER... HEART SORRY.....
Respect to you for that! I live not to far away from them Although I don't know them I know people who do And have said they are nice people My town is still full of blue ribbons for jay 💙 Debbie zak and the family Must be going through absolute sheer hell
I wonder if something happened that caused the “friends” to have some kind of argument/disagreement and that’s why he was on his own at the end of the night 🤷♂️
That Ayub said they were shouting for him in the night on his live , the dogs didn't pick up jays scent at the BnB I honestly think that in those supposed photos on jays snap about a watch jay was deceased in those photos, why's he got sunglasses on in the dark in a dark car..I reckon they took him up there to throw him off the mountain 😢
I HOPE THAT DEBBIE AND ZAK GET SOME ANSWERS THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED ,AS A MOTHER MYSELF I WOULD FIGHT FOR ANSWERS AND NOT STOP UNTIL EVERY LITTLE DETAIL WAS EXPLAINED. I THINK THE PUBLIC WILL SOLVE THIS AWFUL CASE AND HOPE DEBBIE GETS SOME TRUTH TO WHAT HAPPENED TO HER PRECIOUS SON.❤
I’d be in a whole lot of trouble if this was my son!! Always said if it was my son my first stop after landing in Tenerife would have been that damn b&b!! The fact the landlady or whoever she is, treated Zak and his Dad that way 🤯😡
Poor Debbie seems full of questions. This is natural as she knows her sons and the characteristic of the case that do not fit. Not only going with these guys, no body seeing him walking on the road at a time when taxis and hikers are travelling, friends not coming there, screen captures having inconsistencies, walking to the beach that from google maps clearly shows there is no route to his hotel.
Debbie said he was found with his bag beside him that there is a red flag 🚩 because there is video showing clearly the bag was taken from him in the club. So who ever put his body there must of put his bag there. And that tells us this was no accident.
I’ve said this a few times no one seems to pick up on it. When a person unalives due to drugs, the supplier is to blame. Who’s to say this boy didn’t OD and as Ayub was the pusher he needed to take care of him. Told Lucy and Brad he would look after him he has done it before. He was taken the ravine around 6am no longer alive. Then they drove down to the BnB stayed there the person ofilia said she saw is the 3rd person Ayub slipped up and never mentioned again, 3rd person was taking the phone to the location to ping. Not far from Hilda’s cafe. Which is why the other location is close by in the screen shot as other location ping present in green was his lift back to BnB. This would also answer why someone was seen on the cameras getting back into the car on that road. Would also answer why the phone location times don’t add up either. Ofilia didn’t see Jay she saw the third person, Who was off to set the phone location and throw it. I still feel this boy reacted badly to what he had been sold.
@@Walesktf you reckon she will wait 15 years? I reckon it could be sooner, before the memory fades in the general publics mind if she’s going to go down the route.
We can't all of a sudden not be interested any more,, the plot has thickened,, its not over,, far from it We can't stop now,, all the questions still not been answered, and I'm hopeful that the fact we won't let up may make these gavvers abroad not be so neglectful and blase' when our kids go missing
Ok, so everyone is mentioning how dark it was that morning so I just googled it and it said that sunrise in tenerife on June 17 (I think that's the day??) was 7:09 am. 🤷
Jay deserves justice so does his family! His family are going through the worst time of their lives and they need answers. I for one am glad you are continuing to cover Jay’s case, like you have said nothing makes sense! I think Debbie just wanted her baby home and now she wants answers and she deserves them! As for the trolls go and get a life and do something productive with your time!!!
Someone's lying about what actually happened i feel for jays family and i hope they get the justice for jay 🙏 Ps fk the trolls mate you'll always have someone giving you shit about something 🙄 keep the videos coming 👍
I mentioned this in your other chat. He was young and wanted to continue partying. So he went with these guys to continue partying. They wanted to go to bed and told Jay you needed to go. I did this in my youth. In the 70'. I was at a bar partying. Bar closed. I went back to a house where the partying continued. Before that I arrived at the bar with friends. They left before the bar closed. So when the people at the house wanted to go to bed they said you got to go. I left it was dark. Had no idea where I was. So I stayed walking on the road till I made it to a pay phone. I never did that again. Maybe that is what happened to Jay? It's just my humble opinion. If the story goes back and forth, sorry, i have ADD and have not taken my meds yet.
He was fearful against something ,without a doubt ,I also think to do with water beach really significant ,im only a psychic but that's what I personally feel .
If any of them are smart and know what’s good for them, one of them will offer themselves up for immunity and tell the whole truth, implicating everyone else. Otherwise they are all just playing a waiting game before one of them throws the others under the bus, the one with the most compassion and the pressure mounting will jump to do it first hopefully.
TBH, I’m glad your keeping up with jays case. For me personally I like watching your opinion on it. I agree with you for one. Also, would really like to know some answers & I’m sure the family do personally. So, appreciate you covering this case & enjoy your other vids. So please keep going 🙏🙏🙏👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👍👍👍
Hopefully Debbie and the inquest will raise sufficient questions with supporting anomalies that both the UK and Spanish police will investigate fully. I do suspect some of the mentioned ‘players’ know a lot more than we officially know.
So glad that Debbie does not seem to accept the official narrative either . I would like to think she watches this channel for a proper discussion. But I am baffled as to why NOONE in the British authorities is asking questions whatsoever ? Surely the UK Police must find Jay's death suspicious as we all do ? Debbie should talk with her local MP or even a govt minister ASAP before all the evidence gets ' lost'!
It was dark when he arrived in Masca, it was becoming light when he walked up the hill to Mirador de la Cruz de Hilda, to get food (MWT said he wanted to get some scran) and charge his phone! Sadly it was closed when he got there! Just an idea! 😉
H, I am with you 200% Philly from where else, Philly Affterthought--the Noah Presgrove case got WAY too little coverage in the States, you helping it along would be HUGE!!
Please watch that video that I said the second picture on Jay in the back of the car the Snap is time stamped when the picture of him in the back of the car is time stamped the first time it's shown it's not time stamped it's A MUST WATCH VIDEO
@pamenglish6060 sorry Pam I missed your other post. Do you have the name of the video? The armchair sleuths all over the world at home will solve this!!! 🫶🏼
