I can’t find the quote now - Jimi praised Syd’s playing as having a great “attack” but said early Floyd sounded like Johnny B Goode with the wrong chords…
The interview was in 1970, so Syd was long gone by then. The recent Floyd albums at the time Ummagumma and Atom Heart Mother were rather spacy and out there
Yes, the Floyd he's talking about is the early band - psychedelic blues and free-form jammed grooves. The road towards their semi-concept albums of the 1970s, with a more architectural approach to songwriting and a more controlled, polished sound, had only just begun in 1970. "Atom Heart Mother" was released the same day that Jimi's funeral took place in Seattle, and I don't think he had heard any of those songs in advance. He probably may have found Ummagumma interesting, especially the live tracks, but that's still a long way off the 1970s band. But he was right of course that to the Floyd, the "adventures in space" theme is also a metaphor for an interior space - Bowie used that imagery in the same way.
Yes! Jimi was right about moving along musically. His music was dynamic. He knew that people would, after getting comfortable with his new stuff, (nightbird, freedom, angel) He was moving toward that introspection that was being evidenced in those selections.
@@rexstratton73_12 And they are still pulling recordings together 54 years later. Next month a new release comes out on iTunes. He was super gifted and smart. He deserved to live a long life. But boy did he pack a lifetime in 27 years ✌🏼
Yes, those albums and also the first album where Syd was the front man and main songwriter. Even in 1969-70 Syd was still featured on some concert posters for the band - I have a lovely reproduction of a concert poster from a 1970 Florida gig, it's based on a 1967 photo where Syd is featured but not Dave.
@@jono1457-qd9ft Always hard to determine exactly what a musician would have heard or not heard before his early death (Jimmy Page claims to have never seen Hendrix playing live n concert because he was so busy himself during those years, that's a difficult one to judge). I agree that the Floyd Jimi knew best would have been the Barrett-era band, but there's no reason he couldn't have heard at least the live recordings on Ummagumma. David Gilmour is on record stating that he saw Jimi's final UK gig on the Isle of Wight
@@vintagepipesnightmares Peter Gabriel era Genesis was great, but only fairly good compared to Pink Floyd imo. I feel like Genesis weren't too much different compared to the other prog bands of their era i.e Yes, Rush, etc.
Fun Fact: David Gilmour worked the sound during Jimi’s set at the Isle of Wight. Bonus Fun Fact: one of David’s early parlour tricks was he was a fantastic mimic and could play guitar in the style of many other (at the time) more famous musicians. Apparently he did a very impressive Hendrix.
Jimi described Floyd's music as "Inner-Space" which is one of the most accurate descriptions I've heard. He also said he'd "Sometimes lay back and appreciate their music.." Which I took to mean lay-back and trip on ACID to. My guess is Hendrix would have transitioned into Jazz/Funk Fusion in the 70's like Miles, Weather Report, the Mahavishnu Orchestra and Return to Forever.
Did you know that Robin Trower (who was good friends with Hendrix and they often jammed together) wrote “Twice removed from yesterday” (the title track of Trower’s debut album) for Hendrix, but unfortunately Hendrix died and Robin ended up using the song himself.@@TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz 4:45
Syd was a far different guitar player than Jimi but no one could play guitar like Syd. Totally original. He played the guitar like it was a multi instrument
Hendrix, wuzn't a Malmsteem, typo guy. His way, wuzn't da only way. He appreciated a guyz effortz, even if it wuz unorthodox & if he could use sumthin, he'd ncorporate it n his own arsenal of guitar technique.
Syd was not a particularly good guitar player at all. he was an art savant and creative in everything he did, including dabbling in psych rock for a brief time. being a competent musician was not required. he wasn't one.
Hendrix was so heavy in his later stuff. The Isle of Wight is heavy. Machine Gun was an amazing performance. Rough set but he killed it. The dvd is very good.
@@TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz Definitely. Split his pants, sound issues etc. Also Hear my train coming from Berkeley 68” I believe. Unbelievable tone and playing. He was so mature for a 24-25 year old compared with today, way ahead of his time. And Jeffrey’s killed him imho. I know he was ran into the ground and had been using speed, having stomach problems and all, but don’t think he was a heroin addict like people say. He was an old soul for sure. His life story and struggles are very inspiring ✌🏼
David Gilmour and PinkFloyd were a great combination of the “ inner space” David at his core was a folk and blues musician. I don’t know really hear it as much when Sid changed. He was such a talented person, but as the word of “ Shine On You Crazy Diamond “…., he reached for the secret too soon…. I love DSOTM, and David Gilmours continued music.
Jimi was referring to Syd, whether he realized it or not. The Space themes songs were Syds. Pink Floyd was literally making money from writing about Syd after he left lol they would have been nothing without him, just like the Rolling Stones with Brian Jones.
The "inner space" architect of post-Syd Pink Floyd was keyboardist Rick Wright, not David Gilmour, since, as you say, Dave was at heart a folk and blues player. It was Rick who set the mood and provided the textures. And none of it would have happened without Roger Waters. (But I will admit I like pre-DSOTM Floyd better than what followed, Waters' growing role notwithstanding.)
@@connoryork6631 I'm referring to the band's ensemble playing, especially post-Syd (as I said explicitly), and I was responding to the original poster's claim that it was principally Gilmour leading the band through that "inner space," which is incorrect.
I'm actually glad that PF became a little more commercial. It enabled them to reach a broader audience with songs that forced you to examine your life and the world around us in general.
Early Floyd 'connoisseurs' will say different (they have Syd on such a pedestal), but I reckon if they'd split after Syd lost it, most of us born afterwards would never have heard of them. The stuff they did in the Syd era would nowhere near have been enough to carry them through to today the way say the Beatles stuff would.
@@simonsimon325 I absolutely agree. If Roger had not become the main writer and Gilmour had not stepped in as lead guitar and main vocalist they would have fizzled out of existence. Yes they would have had a strong fan base, would never have reached they did without that evolution. God bless bro.
Listen to the i -> IV chordal structure of Jimi’s “1983… a Merman Should I Turn to Be” and Pink Floyd’s “Breathe” from Dark Side of The Moon nearly a decade later, and it’s clear that musically the Experience & Floyd were fellow travellers in inner space exploration‼️
Just before Hendrix's death, I recall listening a lot to Floyd's A Saucerful Of Secrets album, which was stoner's delight interstellar psychedelia. Right when Hendrix died, his Electric Ladyland was on the turntables of my inner circle, along with Floyd's Ummagumma album.
They played together on the first American tour. Syd also developed a delay effect using a Leslie speaker( it revolves). Maybe Jimi also appreciated Syd's approach which was ' No rules!!'
The Billy Gibbons Jimi was referring to WAS psychedelia as this is the time of The Moving Sidewalks when they opened for Jimi - way before the Tex Blues gimmick which was before the click track beards gimmick. One listen to the Sidewalks version of I Want To Hold Your Hand and it's a toss-up who's influencing whom, or dropping the better acid. 🎸
Even listening to early ZZ Top, you can hear what’s Jimi appreciated. I think Gibbons definitely had an influence on Jimi. Every once in awhile, you’ll hear something very similar to Gibbon’s work. It kinda reminds me of when Neil Peart was a big fan of Stuart Copeland. You can hear little bits of Copeland come out in his playing. As a drummer, I know that if I listen to a certain artist a lot, I’ll play things a certain way that I may not have had I not had that artist in my head.
I wouldn't say that Pink Floyd became more commercial over time, but that the commercial marketing of music got into commercializing less standard music.
Hendrix was not only possibly best original guitarists but as a human being and a person was very humble...He gave credit and acknowledgement to others who did great things with their music....Anyone berating or down playing Jimi in these modern times should keep that in mind...
Definitely True Jimi was already moving in that Direction. What’s intriguing is that Miles recorded In a Silent Way & the Mind blowing Bitches Brew because of being influenced directly by Jimi. One can only imagine a Band with Jimi & Miles with Paul on Bass and Tony Williams on Drums Excellent Video Bro…
Hendrix loved floyd, but at first he didnt get them. Gilmour loved hendrix, you can hear it in some of his guitar work. Both floyd and hendrix were creative monsters.
@@chicklets4ever51music is not a competition, both are excellent guitarists who have different goals and therefore different end products. there is no point in belittling david gilmore, it does not make hendrix look any more impressive it just makes you look like a dick
Interesting take. I wonder if Jimi really meant a "new" kind of music, when he specifically said "different". It sounds like he's juxtaposing his approach to theirs, and points to the music of inner space as being different. He also specifically says its music to go away by yourself and listen. I think in this statement he is reaffirming his approach to music as "electric church music". Church music is community building music, and as such uses a good beat and easy progressions. Pink Floyd of that era was, as Hendrix points out, not an inclusive music in the same way. It was challenging music that appealed to the introvert. I don't think fundementally Hendrix is talking about easier and a good beat to commit to a commercialism. I thinks its more to do with his vision of music as good times group building.
Man, I hope you're a subscriber! 👍Great observations. I've got a vid on 3 ways Hendrix was a genius without his guitar and one was his interviews. You are so right w/ your reading of his seemingly simple statements.
My takeaway: he thought they were trying something new but didn't really have any skill technically and had found a way to express themselves while at the same time gaining a following. In other words, he thought they weren't real musicians but were successful and that was intriguing/mesmerizing/frustrating to him and probably a realization of sorts.
I doubt Hendrix saying he'd keep more beat to his music is highly unlikely to mean he was interested in staying a commercial musician, the fact he wanted to work with jazz musicians etc. probably has him drifting off the mainstream music radar a fair bit had he lived, it's just too limiting for someone like him.
Jimi Hendrix is the guitarist in his own right and his stuff is his own creation that he plays he's had so many different guitars and each one has it's own unique sounds but pink Floyd were experimenting with there own way but they like some of the synth other bands brought out another style of music by using a synth machine to produce the psycadelic sounds and that's the difference between the two groups.😊
There’s not really any other universally known album that strikes an emotional chord on first listen like Dark Side. Not my very favorite by them but people gotta stop with this “overrated” label. It deserves all it’s praises
It's a real shame he died when he did. I feel he would definitely have moved farther away from what I think of as circus tricks. Not just the smashing and setting fire to guitars, or the playing behind the back/with teeth, but the crazy noises. All the guitar stunts stuff. I feel as he matured, he would have focussed much more on the purely musical side of his guitar playing, and who knows where that guy could have gone with all that raw talent. I also wonder what he could have done had he worked with a great singer/songwriter type. Cuz that wasn't Hendrix's strongest area.
Didn't Hendrix also say in another interview that he didn't like Pink Floyd and he felt they were just all about flash and light shows rather than creating intricate music.
Man, that's something to think about. Got any guesses? lol I'd say one thing: he probably would like to do a "Dark Side of the Rainbow" after he smoked a few bowls. 😎
@TalkLinkMusic-gd7fz probably. He most likely would have enjoyed listening to it, and who knows, maybe do a version of a song himself. Perhaps Us and them
Pink Floyd did not become commercial. That’s ridiculous. You can’t play a Pink Floyd song on the radio unless you’re willing to play the entire album or at least one side. Billy Gibbons was like Hendrix and Pink Floyd in that no one sounds anything like ZZ Top. Most guitar players sound somewhat similar to others. Some like Eddie Van Halen revolutionized the equipment as well. But it’s been about 60 years since they became a band and I’ve heard nothing at all like ZZ Top.
It was frontman Syd Barrett who named his iconic band 'Pink Floyd' after and in honor of 2 Black American Blues immortals 'Pink' Anderson and 'Floyd' Council. 'Pink Floyd'----got it?.
Interesting how members of bands wanting to branch off, their main band.work with other musicians.townsend wanted to work with rick grech.etc but band of gypsys shows that of course.just bringing it up for fun.keep talking friends, its fun.
Depends on which Pink Floyd he was talking about. Syd Floyd had many different eras that all had their own sounds and approaches while post-Syd had less variety and eventually ossified. On a side note, when Miles first heard Ornette's free jazz he was dismissive, saying the man was "all mixed up inside" but 5 years later Miles went all in on free jazz for a whole decade.
Dark Side Of The Moon was really good. But their music after that, and building on that, eventually sounded like an unending string of plodding, despondent dirges, of self-pity, voluntary alienation, and middle-class white boy angst. Why can’t I have my pudding - just because I haven’t eaten all my meat? The horror.
Floyd certainly seemed to have begun in a new direction, then it just turned into another formulaic snore-fest after their original guitarist was gone.
@@francophillips1552 Pink Floyd was boring after Sid?!? Now I’ve heard it all. Dark Side of the Moon is arguably the greatest album ever made and Sid wasn’t in the band then
Imagine a jam band with Billy Cobham on drums, Paul McCartney on bass and songwriting. Jimi on guitar and lyrics and John McClaughlin on other guitar, Rick Wright on keyboards!
The Cure. Mixed Up. Floyd is just stoner music. Although Live at Pompei is a masterpiece! Hendrix just blew minds with hard funky rock which everybody loved. But time is the true killer of sound.😊
Everybody talks like if they knew JIMI, like if they met him😡😂NOBODY MET JIMI, SO PLEASE SHUT IT UP....JIMI LIKED MUSIC, ESPECIALLY SOUNDS, THAT'S WHY HE LIKED LED ZEP, PINK FLOYD, ETC....ONLY SHIT JOURNALISTS SAYED JIMI DIDN'T LIKED OTHER BANDS😡😡😡😡😡
