Because of their lifespan, her henchmen die every 10 years or so according to the theory. Theoretically, she would only have to teach one henchman, and after 8-9 years, have the old one begin training the new one.
You totally ignored the real smoking gun here: Yzma didn't know Kronk could talk to squirrels. You can explain everything else away, but Yzma can't be that absent-minded.
She maybe didn't know that squirrels could talk. I mean, why would she? A squirrel turned Kronk would just sound like he was talking jibberish until he was trained, which is the same as how something that couldn't talk but was suddenly given the brainpower to talk would sound.
Not to mention that the bug scene is actually a reference to the horror movie 'The Fly.' That high pitched "Help me. Help me!" line is iconic and is just funny to see as a side gag.
Great, now I want art of someone drawing Kronk a Squirrel fursona. Or Kronk dressed up in a Squirrel fursuit (save for the head because then we wouldn't know it's him) x'D
Very well put together! You missed an extra debunk: there's a closing scene in the original film of Kronk teaching kids (and kitty Izma) to speak squirrel, so we can even see that process rather than relying on his memories of childhood!
Here's a theory: Yzma is far older than any human should be as suggested by the numerous references to her age, she has a "normal" human companion who accompanies her everywhere despite considerable danger to themselves (and is replaced every few years), she has access to technologies that are far to advanced to exist in that time period, and she travels around in a box-like device that can somehow hold a massive tent and supplies despite barely fitting one person. Conclusion: Yzma is a rogue Timelady who got stranded on earth, and the thing Kronk carries her in is a non-functioning TARDIS.
In the second movie she makes a "youth" potion that does not work, also in the scrapped version of this movie (The Kingdom of the sun) She wanted to take off the sun as revenge of her aging so.. I don't know about that
The spider would also have to be human if that were the case, because after crunching on the bug you can hear it say in a smug voice “Too late.” An equally creepy prospect, to be sure. 😐
Helen Weidert maybe the spider just gave up and went on to living his life as a spider; like; "sorry bro, don't take it personal I'm a predator" OR maybe he was turned into a spider for a reason, hint hint,
And don't forget that Kronk was an Scout wher he learnd to Speak Squirrel and some thing like this, I Know this isn't Logical, but it is still a Disney Movie ther isn't some thing like Logic
I would have also mentioned his beefy size too. When Yzma becomes a cat, she still resembles Yzma. Same with Cuzco looking like himself even as a llama. As much as I love the theory, Kronk in no way resembles a squirrel.
The joke about Kronk being the "latest model" and Yzma not knowing his age was definitely meant to be about Yzma being a cougar. Kronk was a late addition to the film relatively speaking, and the filmmakers mention his purpose as "Yzma's boyfriend" in the documentary "the Sweatbox." This movie has a fascinating production history if you've never looked into it. (I'm sure you have, LewToons, but many of your viewers haven't). Part of this history is a rushed final draft which turned out to be amazingly tight on humor writing and a decent story too, but I also doubt that the theory about the fly being a transformed human was intended by the filmmakers when they cranked the film out. It's just a reference to the 50s classic B-movie "the Fly," where at the end a fly with a human head is seen trapped in a spider's web crying, "Help me! Help meee!"
Also, Kronk talks about wrestling in high school in the original movie. That helps debunk the theory if you don't believe the sequel to be canon. If you're taking suggestions, I would love for you to dive deep into the Enchantress's curse from Beauty and the Beast. Thank you! Another amazing video, Chad!
4:55 That part of the movie was a reference to a horror film 'The Fly'. Basing a theory around pop culture references is pretty weak. Your videos are great!
in addition to the sequel. there was also that pretty good cartoon series, The Emperor's New School. which also featured Kronk's family in a few episodes
This is a really intriguing theory with many good points and I'm glad you actually did a segment where you looked at evidence which disproves your theory. However, if I may, I have a few more elements that maybe you didn't think of ^-^ One, is Yzma didn't know Kronk spoke squirrel. Two, Kronk was a Squirrel Scout. I think by the nature of the group, you have to have an appreciation for squirrels and know how to communicate with them; which would mean you have to LEARN these things rather than already know them inherently. And finally, how about when they're in the restaurant and Kronk recognizes Pacha and says "Wrestled you in high school?" trying to put his finger on where he saw him. This means that he remembers going to school, AND was on a wrestling team. And while you could say "He could have gotten put into school after being turned human to make him act more human." I highly doubt Yzma's henchman would be of any use to her while he's gone at school for 9-10 hours a day. And furthermore, why on earth would she put so much effort into trying to teach a squirrel-man English just for the sake of having a henchman, when any brainless oaf she can convince to serve her and do the things she can't do with her frail old form, would suffice? Also about that fly who "was actually a human turned into a bug"... I think they were just making a joke, and "bbzzzbzz bzzzzz" is not nearly as funny or readable as a pitched up "Help meeeeee! HEEELP MEEE!" XD
img i'm so glad i got in the mood for the emperor's new groove because i rediscovered this channel!!! this was one of my favorites! i came for the gavity falls and stayed for the rest... then forgot about it... but now i'm back!! and i'm bookmarking your channel so i never forget!
Oh, and the emperors new school also debunks this theory by showing us Kronk’s family a couple of times. A theory I am interested in is, what ever happened to Kuzco’s dad? There is an episode about it in the show, but it is never actually resolved. Is he dead? Or just missing?
In the movie Squirls are shown to be able to communicate to humans pretty well, understand them and even do things humans can do despite squirles suppose to not be able to do that.
The early version of this movie (The Kingdom of the sun) had so much information that wasn't used, I wish someone would pick up on them and do a video about it (I actually have plans for it but not the time)
Another reason Ezma might get new henchmen “every decade” could be because they all get accidentally axed off every so often due to lab accidents. I mean if the human bug theory is true, what if that was one of her henchmen?
This makes me want to rewatch the movie, not to find the clues for the theory, I just haven't seen it in a long time and I would like to watch it again.
Yup! That line about learning Squirrel as a Scout, kinda nips that theory in the bud. I feel I must point out, however, that if you transform a squirrel into a human, it may still have a squirrel mind, but it now it has a human brain, and the speech capabilities that come with that. The real silliness is in Isthma and Cuzco still speaking human after being transformed into animals.
I would think that Kronk is actually a dog turned into human. Think about it. A dog would be much more likely to have some small grasp of human language than a squirrel would, and they would also be more likely to want to follow orders and please their “master/Mistress”. Most dogs also only live to be around a decade or so old as well, and it would probably explain why Yzma would be surprised he could speak squirrel.
It's worth noting, the fly scene happened during the part of the story that was being relayed to us by kuzco (which indicates that it might have been added by an unreliable narrator)
I feel you a missing the point that language is a trait that is learned because of the body as long as you can breath and have suitable ability to articulate you can talk this is evident given the fact that eventually everyone (barring the mute and most cases of the deaf) will end up talking despite languages being different
I dunno the squirrels in the movie where smart enough to make a baloon poodle, taunt kuzko, and have lengthy conversations "using squirrel speak" I'm sure if given a human body "including human vocal cords" a squirrel could figure out how to speak! but no kronk is likely not a squirrel, he doesn't look like he was once a squirrel, usually the potions seem to maintain some character design traits though transformation like llama kuzko's hair and colors. also the squirrels hate yzma and are likely to smart to mindlessly follow her XD
He once has a flashback of him as a little kid who baked with squirrels and his dad made him stop and took his oven mitts. He had a human dad and was a human.
2:28 I think it was just a subtle way of saying that, after a decade, they get too old and aren't as 'hunky' enough anymore. So she gets a new 'toy'. Yes, I'm saying that the old hag keeps 'Krunk's around as eye-candy in addition to doing her bidding.
What if Kronk's father was Yzmas previous minion, demanded his son to be transformed into a human and by the time he was too old for the job, the now more able-bodied Kronk took over. That would also explain why Kronks mother doesn't make an appearance. Plus being Human longer than Kronk could explain his lack of squirrel personality traits.
Just a little note on the nature of squirrels: anyone who's dealt with their ingenuity when it comes to stealing tomatoes, will know that though small, a squirrel brain is aggressively active. I wouldn't put it at all past a transformed squirrel learning anything darn thing it wanted to --- and showing off about it too!
Well, here's a theory. Hakuna Matata is actually about Simba getting over his father's death, and the whole time, Simba is in stress and eating his sorrows out. Why else doesn't Simba hunt for food.
If that fly WAS a human turned into a fly by one of Yzma's potions, surely she would have disposed of it with a fly swatter like she tried to do to Kuzco when HE turned into a fly in the Emperor 's New School episode Come Fly With Me?
This is probably addressed in the video but I can't watch right now and I will delete if it is later...but the much forgotten Kronks New Groove may just debunk all of this. However I suppose you can argue that Kronks New Groove isn't canon for obvious reasons.
On squirrels' intelligence - I don't think teaching a squirrel Human is not far off. The squirrel we see most often seen in the film is capable of very complicated tasks, such as planning and making balloon animals. On top of that, even though the squirrel doesn't physically speak Human, he shows an understanding of what Kronk, Yzma and Kuzco all say when talking with them. I posit it is a valid theory. Also I just kinda want it to be true, so 💁
I personally prefer to stick with the emperors new school animated series as the follow up to the emperors new groove, no matter how much you try to make it and Kronk’s new groove lineup, they just don’t. It’s like the little mermaid animated series and Ariel‘s beginning (which I also prefer the animated series to be the prequel to the first film).
Here's a question. If an animal that turns into a human then it only live for the lifespan of the animal. Then does that mean that if a human turns into an animal would it live as long as a human? So if that bug didn't get eaten by the spider would it live a long time compared to the lifespan of insects which are only a couple of days.
