Was Lebron James The Most ATHLETIC Player Ever In 2009? | Best Highlights 👀🔥

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In this video, we take a look back at some of the best highlights from LeBron James during the 2008-09 NBA season. That year, James was at the top of his game, leading the Cleveland Cavaliers to the best record in the league and earning himself his first NBA MVP award.
Throughout the season, James showcased his incredible talent and athleticism, dazzling fans with his lightning-quick drives to the basket, powerful dunks, and pinpoint passes to his teammates. Whether he was hitting a game-winning shot or making a jaw-dropping block, James proved time and again why he is considered one of the greatest basketball players of all time.
So sit back and enjoy as we relive some of the greatest moments from one of the greatest players to ever grace the NBA court. This is LeBron James, 2008-09 season highlights.
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@Sidestrain101 8 месяцев назад

His landing mechanic is on point too. Lands on both feet with knees bent all the time. This explains his longevity.

@sethbullock4193 8 месяцев назад

PEDs explain his longevity

@fredooogoated8335 8 месяцев назад

@@sethbullock4193you hurt 😂😂😂

@RavenK-lu7co 7 месяцев назад

Peds explain more

@MistahJay7 7 месяцев назад

@@sethbullock4193 Casual bum

@jadams6419 6 месяцев назад

@@fredooogoated8335your stupid for assuming he’s wrong without looking up sources online

@ChibiMalzahar Год назад

Bron is too damn big and strong to be that fast and that good at jumping and that skilled and that smart and that good a passer. Shit is crazy

@excellmoney7746 8 месяцев назад

It’s crazy to think that this game was just made up and that people can actually be born to play it, that’s with all sports

@cavaleer 8 месяцев назад

He's a Super Athlete, absolute Apex, right there with Wilt, Bo and Prime.

@Dipset415 8 месяцев назад

But couldn’t D up on Turk to stop the magics pick and roll🤷🏿‍♂️

@sethbullock4193 8 месяцев назад

Wow Lechoke threw a bounce pass to a guy in the corner. What s great passer. The lies about Lechoke never get old.

@jimmy6700 8 месяцев назад

Go cry @@sethbullock4193

@youngbird945 8 месяцев назад

This dude was in his prime since 2003,mama there goes that man😂😂

@Wyndamn 8 месяцев назад

Hand down, man down 😅😅😅

@THEECYBERMACKIN 3 месяца назад

2009-2018

@michaelseif1688 Год назад

He is fast he literally out runs everyone on the court in a fastbreak

@geraldtaylor8712 Год назад

No he dont

@fullmetal1766 Год назад

He actually doesn't

@brandenwebb6232 Год назад

@@fullmetal1766 but he did I mean I get not liking him but you can’t dispute visual evidence

@LSmoney215 11 месяцев назад

And his handles was crisp

@PKUMKILL 11 месяцев назад

@@geraldtaylor8712 Literally agreeing with raw facts, he is proven time and again to have the fastest break

@OldChanCharlie 8 месяцев назад

Those 08-10 cavs teams were so good. Really good chemistry between the team. Best regular season record two years straight. They were just missing one more piece

@PushinP911 8 месяцев назад

That was supposed to be Amare 😢

@KingKalil 8 месяцев назад

Literally all the front office at the time had to do was get the man a reliable 2nd option (Mo Williams had ZERO reasons being that option) and the Cavs would've had a legit shot at a chip during his first stint there especially in 09

@joshyy5986 8 месяцев назад

best in the league on defense and on offense they was probably the worst if it wasn't for Lebron being in there.

@sethbullock4193 8 месяцев назад

Yes they were missing one more piece. They needed Lechoke to not choke.

@mikewill4839 7 месяцев назад

@@sethbullock4193mo Williams choked goofy know your history hater 😂

@MrAlvarez23 8 месяцев назад

Just imagine if Bron had better players around the first 7 years.😢

@oNextq 5 месяцев назад

Not just better player the cavs front office was neglectful and creating an environment that ended up with Lebron and his teamates who were mostly bums being at odds against each other genuinely such a unfortunate scenario for such a talent

@dazdavis7896 5 месяцев назад

He did. Still didn’t win shit til he teamed up with the best player in the game at the time in Miami. Wade circa 2008-2011 then LeBron from 2012 through the next few years, they were the 2 best players in the world. He couldn’t win shit without Wade. If he never played with him, he’d still be chasin his first ring. That is a fact.

@tonyparra8736 4 месяца назад

@dazdavis7896 Cleveland fan, he had shit rosters for 7 years just stop it.

@codyeble6764 4 месяца назад

@@dazdavis7896 you don't know ball.. stop

@dazdavis7896 4 месяца назад

@@codyeble6764 lmfao. NICE try there kid. I know a whole hell of a lot more than you. Sit tf down.

@wavoe368 Год назад

This is why I think THIS is prime bron. 08-09 bron was just different. If he had the IQ and minder from Miami, UNSTOPPABLE

@ballsballsballs3617 Год назад

Miami Lebron is literally a more well rounded version of this Lebron. He just has more muscle

@Heemkeem_9 Год назад

U explain why this isn’t prime bron right after saying this is prime bron bonehead 🤣🤣😂😂.

@BatmanvsJesus Год назад

I think 2018 IQ was even better

@greysonG10 11 месяцев назад

@@BatmanvsJesus 2015-to now is the smartest he's been, probably a better shooter/passer. But 2009 was his athletic peak.

@SuperJay2010 11 месяцев назад

Prime bron was 2nd stint in Cleveland

@dwightg.halpert7219 8 месяцев назад

This was one of the years everyone thought he can easily play in NFL if he wanted to.

@abiliochangule 7 месяцев назад

No matter who played against him he was always there to deliver his best day up day. It's been crazy to watch him all these years

@user-dq4ef6yd2c 7 месяцев назад

Most gifted athlete of all time

@Baddknewz 6 месяцев назад

I truly believe he coulda went HOF in any professional sport lol

@jasonhardaway3052 5 месяцев назад

Yeah no, his dash and vertical leap max is still behind Jordan 😂😂😂😅

@Baddknewz 5 месяцев назад

@@jasonhardaway3052 bro MJ is 50lbs lighter and 4 inches shorter, he better be faster and jump higher then Lebron lmao. Now lets put them in the weight room and see who can move more iron 💪🏾

@jasonhardaway3052 5 месяцев назад

@@Baddknewz Lebron is 6’8, Jordan is 6’6, not a huge difference, fact remains that Jordan was overall more athletic by far than Lebron. Not sure how the weight room determines who’s the better athlete? 😂😂😂

@Baddknewz 5 месяцев назад

@@jasonhardaway3052 Lets talk facts and not hypotheticals. Yo boy didn’t even make variety basketball his first try. Whereas lebron was legitimately league-ready at 15 years old. Yo boy tried baseball and was below below average lmao. Lebron was the best football player in Ohio the same time he was winning basketball championships.

@junie437 Год назад

I came here after they lost to the nuggets in game 3 of the 2023 WCF,how I wish he could turn back the time and dominate like this.🙏🙏🙏

@ChinedumDavid 8 месяцев назад

He did but it wasn’t enough😢

@IvanDiaz-fl6ff 8 месяцев назад

@@ChinedumDavidhe didn’t dominate LeBron played mid asf all playoffs

@IvanDiaz-fl6ff 8 месяцев назад

@@ChinedumDavidhe was giving you a casual 25 every night

@ChinedumDavid 8 месяцев назад

@@IvanDiaz-fl6ff I was referring to the game 4, he had like 42 points but lost 😞

@IvanDiaz-fl6ff 8 месяцев назад

@@ChinedumDavid doesn’t matter they were down 3-0 idc if he dropped 100 he didn’t take over

@lesliebarber206 Год назад

And people expect LeBron to still be this athletic at 38 years old 🙄 but yeah he was the most athletic at this time.

@TheJanvicgwaps Год назад

I think he will play till he is 45 haha still got it in him..

@lesliebarber206 Год назад

@@TheJanvicgwaps I don't think so as optimistic as LeBron is about playing with Bronny Jr a team would have to want LeBron and who wants someone 45

@ozzee5094 Год назад

@@lesliebarber206 lebron will only be 40 when he can play with bronny. no one is expecting him to play at 45 lmao.

@lesliebarber206 Год назад

@@ozzee5094 LeBron is 38 years old now he's going to be 39 year 2024 as much as a Laker fan and LeBron fan i am, the way he got gas out last Friday night playing 45 minutes,i don't think that if they don't find some real shooters, LeBron will not fulfill year 2024 season (IJS)

@ozzee5094 Год назад

@@lesliebarber206 let me break it down too you. lebron's poor play is a result of his jumper being beyond garbage at the moment. his finishing at the rim and the amount of times he's getting his shots at the rim are aligned with his career averages. he's been very efficient from 2 point range. it's these nonsense 3s he's been jacking up like 8 times a game that are leading to these poor performances. lebron averaged 29 ppg in 2023 to think he wouldnt play in 2024 is nonsense.

@wowsadowsa 4 месяца назад

ppl really think this wouldn't have dominated the 90s.

@user-xb4fm5rx8h 18 дней назад

Them old niggas are delusional, he woulda been better in the ‘90s😂

@Edrich6 8 месяцев назад

The greatest ever 😤🐐

@sethbullock4193 8 месяцев назад

The most overrated over hyped player in the history of the league.

@fredooogoated8335 8 месяцев назад

@@sethbullock4193it’s always the white boys hating. I know you mad😂😂😂

@RavenK-lu7co 7 месяцев назад

Greatest what? Lmao

@k.l.s8716 7 месяцев назад

His explosiveness is just 🔥🔥

@kendricksantiago7712 2 месяца назад

WR, Safety and running back dude is a monster

@godwinagoligi3458 7 месяцев назад

Big, strong, smart, agile and of the roof IQ. LBJ is a rare breed 💪🏾

@giotorres8669 9 месяцев назад

BEST VERSION OF LEBRON ATHLETIC WISE

@user-oi7rk2ks6m 6 месяцев назад

And Kobe won the chip that year🤦🏾‍♂️

@jonathanpeterson1984 8 месяцев назад

I recall him grabbing a stray alley oop and almost hitting the SIDE of his head on the backboard. He caught the ball one handed and finished the play also.

@codyeble6764 4 месяца назад

Didn't finish the play, got fouled coming down.. but ya I remember that, was crazy how high he got

@francybrionesmaballo9512 4 месяца назад

Toma hawk! LeBron's signature dunk 💯🔥

@ElsonCriminologist 9 месяцев назад

I miss this young LEBRON

@RavenK-lu7co 7 месяцев назад

Miss his hairline

@ElsonCriminologist 7 месяцев назад

@@RavenK-lu7co my down hairline? Hahaha

@RavenK-lu7co 7 месяцев назад

@@ElsonCriminologist yeah you understand stupid

@gsk7087 4 месяца назад

LeBron would dominate in any era but 2008-2013 lebron would be putting up 35/8/8 with the spacing today.

@MrYungstarlive 6 месяцев назад

I don’t think I’ve missed a single game that year, every game was electrifying

@donham2540 6 месяцев назад

It was so long ago but man..2008 lebron was just absolutely machine. 280 ish fast as hell and the most explosive thing I’ve ever seen

@blazeforprez 7 месяцев назад

Been a pleasure watching lebrons career I didnt like him at first cuz I'm a Melo fan but u grew to respect him appreciate his greatness just like I did kobe

@dienauto4087 7 месяцев назад

Wait, just wait until, you his biggest hater start crying the day he leaves the game. I already miss this guy's prime...I followed all his career

@g.coleman 5 месяцев назад

I hear that smooth jazz in the background! Great choice 👍

@NBA-UK 8 месяцев назад

Loving the videos 📸📸📸

@greatnessismagnificent 9 месяцев назад

LEGENDARY

@earnesttynes4110 Год назад

Excellent video. Absolutely Best Year. Look at his teammates

@fullmetal1766 Год назад

2 all star teammates weirdo

@earnesttynes4110 Год назад

@@fullmetal1766 exactly no hall of Famer . An all star is voted by fans. What's the best accolade those 2 all stars have without lebron ???? Nothing .. now that's weird

@eddiewilks4874 Год назад

Stupid reply

@beazy3364 8 месяцев назад

@earnesttynes4110 an allstar is an allstar. He wasn't playing with bums like in 2007

@oldschoolpk 8 месяцев назад

Bron is a freak. Doesnt mean he is most athletic. Wilt is most athletic. Jordan has nba vertical jump record.. bron aint the fastest nor most powerful.. define athleticist. I smell biases and bs

@calvinwatson1830 6 месяцев назад

This bron was different. Still ain't seen nothing like him in the 09 days

@BasketballJunkie1324 4 месяца назад

His acceleration at some of these fastbreaks looks fake as fuck. It's insane

@louismclean6662 8 месяцев назад

Krispy Kreme want to borrow some of y'all glaze😂😂😂😂😂😂

@frankthetank819 5 месяцев назад

Nobody ever in the history of the game don’t care what anyone says the speed and strength and athleticism was insane goat 🐐

@DrJay_elite 4 месяца назад

I think everyone is forgetting just how fast and quick shaq was in his young years.

@joshyy5986 8 месяцев назад

Cavs really wasted lebron prime athletic ability smh. all they need to do is acquire a 2nd scoring option behind lebron and they'll be a champion. if Mo williams is your 2nd option there is something wrong lmao

@DrenchEm- 8 месяцев назад

I will truly miss watching Lebron when he retires. I was Born in 97 & it’s like ever since I’ve been watching the NBA fr Lebron has been in the league, it won’t be the same at all without Lebron. Idc if he is averaging 8 ppg I want him to play til he’s 48 yrs old lol

@adutch1505 7 месяцев назад

We just witnessed the greatest basketball player of all time

@jigenitaimei 7 месяцев назад

He is the GOAT

@raizen4271 7 месяцев назад

damn he was 24 or 25 at this time.. his athletic yrs for sure

@Kwolf_____7 5 месяцев назад

Good times of life this time man

@user-zj1ht8qo3h 8 месяцев назад

Yeah I loved it when he played for Cleveland seemed like ok watch me now for home team that year

@Arvin-hx8hx 6 месяцев назад

Why does the lebron haters come to his RU-vid videos and start saying anything negative about the legend? Not that it bothers me because everyone who watches him play with two eyes knows he is the Greatest Of all time!

@Khalidsworjd 11 месяцев назад

Man oh man 🐐

@VelhaGuardaTricolor 11 дней назад

The GOAT hands down.

@qbtc 6 месяцев назад

Lebron is arguably the most gifted basketball player ever - size, speed, skill, athleticism, IQ, longevity. The only thing missing is a killer instinct which Jordan and Kobe had in spades.

@KnucklesWTD-uu3ps 6 месяцев назад

Well, Bird is more skilled as he made up for lack of athleticism. He provided the assists without Lebron's turnover rate. Lebron has a 37% midrange shot. 2009 Lebron relied heavily on athleticism. Today's Lebron can atleast score 34% from 3 pointer, but Bron still relies heavily on upclose baskets that are within 5 ft. Bird is more skilled, and so are players that dont rely on upclose shots

@codyeble6764 4 месяца назад

@@KnucklesWTD-uu3psbird didn't play the crazy athletes that Bron did literally where their only job is to stop Bron... Besides Rodman I can't think of one other guy.. not saying bird wouldn't torch the new guys too but it's not a fair comparison playing so many years and talent levels apart

@DiamondLion13 4 месяца назад

U don’t get 4 rings and the most points ever with NO killer instinct. He was in the finals at 22..

@jlybr3026 8 месяцев назад

2009 Lebron was the freakiest and biggest I think he's ever been

@MosMoney187 8 месяцев назад

BPE = BEST PLAYER EVER‼️ 👌🏽 🤞🏾🩸

@michaelangeloencarnacion3985 11 месяцев назад

Yeah. If he only had the right teammates around. He wouldn't leave.

@willdouglas6554 7 месяцев назад

When you realize neither picture on the thumbnail is from the 2009 season🔥🔥

@HMtheWaterMan 6 месяцев назад

I'm gonna have to show this to my kids who only know Lakers Bron and him being the crafty old vet that still gets buckets... They need to see the phenom!

@RahimHenry-xr5hz 5 месяцев назад

Imagine a player like this in the late 80s and 90s!😲

@heraldarnold437 7 месяцев назад

What's the soundtrack of this video? It's fire.

@luismrtz5203 8 месяцев назад

That’s my homie who don’t even know me 👏🏼

@tonyparra8736 4 месяца назад

Ive watched Jordan and LeBron. The only player that i could ever say PHYSICALLY dominated grown men from day 1 on the level that LeBron did is Shaq and that was due to Shaqs size. Even Jordan was not the physical BEAST Lebron was. And MJ was an amazing athlete, but Lebron was MJ level athleticism with the size of Karl Malone. It was ridiculous, and truthfully he goes to any other franchise than the Cavs he has more than 6 rings.

@justinwilson1359 17 дней назад

The funniest thing about this video is this is only about 10 different games that is shown lmao

@ixel_4x 7 месяцев назад

Mfka was something serious 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

@jamesgreen2994 6 месяцев назад

Wow! I forgot he was so strong and fast!

@jhonmikeramos7350 7 месяцев назад

lebron james is the goat no more else

@alexmotts 8 месяцев назад

You mean from 2003 to 2018. He was the most athletic ever. Not just 09.

@DarrelWashingtonJr9002 8 месяцев назад

Bullshitn... Ain't nobody was more athletic than a prime healthy DRose a '02 Kobe Bryant or '88 MJ

@alexmotts 8 месяцев назад

@@DarrelWashingtonJr9002 lmao. Put down the drugs. D rose was NOT more atheltic. Otherwise his legs wouldnt have given out. Delusional ass mfer. Stfu

@alexmotts 8 месяцев назад

@YungPhilosopher omfg stfu. You sound retarded. You nostalgia tards are so delusional.. wilt was playing against garbage competition. Anyones gonna look other worldy against 90% of the league being chumps. Wilt would be a 21 10 guy in todays game. Plenty of players would punk him. Foh

@sethbullock4193 8 месяцев назад

Dumb kids know absolutely nothing. I really hope I wasn't this dumb while embarrassing myself.

@fredooogoated8335 8 месяцев назад

@YungPhilosopheryou never even saw wilt play just stop 😂😂

@mohammedalrubaiy3671 8 месяцев назад

You can hand-check til the cows come home. You ain’t gonna stop this man from forcing your head in the basket.

@sethbullock4193 8 месяцев назад

By using off arm to push and foul defender.

@jamiekelley4076 8 месяцев назад

Considering this was when prime Dwight was around it is kind of hard to just give LeBron the title. Prime Dwight was a whole different animal in terms of athleticism.

@mithshi7498 7 месяцев назад

beast

@IvanDiaz-fl6ff 8 месяцев назад

2009 LeBron was the best basketball athlete of all time he was the fastest player in the league the most athletic and one of the strongest forwards in the game at the time

@oldschoolpk 8 месяцев назад

Nah 🧢. Define athletic? Wilt was most athletic of all. Jordan had a literal vertical jump record. These ppl are exceptions to mean. Saying he is is disrespect to others.

@oldschoolpk 8 месяцев назад

Was he stronger than bigs or shaq? Bs. was he faster than guards? cap. I smell biases.. J terry stopped his big 3... lol

@viktorianas 8 месяцев назад

LeBron was very good in every category 9/10 in speed, vertical and power, but not exceptional in any. Only Wilt Chamberlain I would consider a better overall package.

@RavenK-lu7co 7 месяцев назад

Most turnovers and never gave a fade

@Dthreat__6 7 месяцев назад

2009 lebron had a killer instinct

@dvbaby2120 8 месяцев назад

I honestly don’t know which version is better between 09. And Miami heat version.. and I’m from Cleveland so I’ve seen every version.. I might give the slight nod to Miami bron! He was a killer and more clutch!

@MilanCentre 5 месяцев назад

2018 bron was out of this world, his mind/basketball IQ was peak and his athletic ability was just a little lost, he was still the most athletic player on the field against any opponent basically. He was not playn D the entire game tho, but that was just for tiredness control. If we talk about a single play for saving my life, I would choose 2018 Bron

@Truelivejayy 8 месяцев назад

1:29 is crazy!

@vertainsuber4616 8 месяцев назад

That’s When He Played At 265lbs

@C.stone97 8 месяцев назад

Man he cooked paul pierce at 2:10 lol

@bigshoog 7 месяцев назад

D ROSE WAS THE MOST ATHLETIC PLAYER IN THE NBA IN 2009

@icemike1 7 месяцев назад

😂

@frankthetank819 5 месяцев назад

Yes nobody was more athletic then Lebron ever all Time lebrons size was ridiculous 🐐

@furrr1 8 месяцев назад

‘09 Bron my favorite version

@m8rs718 5 месяцев назад

🐐🐐🐐

@jbeamon1994 7 месяцев назад

Might’ve been the biggest here as well. Built like a tank his whole career but here he looks stacked

@BatmanvsJesus Год назад

How many times did he play the Celtics that year 😂😂😂

@MrDiMES123 7 месяцев назад

This was were he had the most speed & vertical & quickness

@philliprhinehardt6268 Год назад

This is young LeBron at it's finest.

@earlthepearl6414 8 месяцев назад

Dude went for a 360 and LBJ made him eat it! Lol He had to be embarrassed after that one. Ha ha

@stevelumumbashabazzz5087 6 месяцев назад

In my life I’ve never seen a player with this size play and move like this. There’s no argument you’re going to show me and prove me this guy couldn’t play in the 90’s absolutely not argument.

@repentyasharahla7632 6 месяцев назад

Goat

@charlesdorrogh6644 2 месяца назад

He was literally a 6’8 version of MVP Rose 🤦‍♂️

@KC-lg8qf 8 месяцев назад

Dude was out their playing real life 2k

@RedCafex 8 месяцев назад

LMAOOOO he ain’t have to do Jason Richardson like that 😆😆😆 that man was bout to do a slam dunk contest move. Messed up his moment

@TH-cq7bj 7 месяцев назад

Peak designer drugz

@joem8252 7 месяцев назад

Eastern conference was at an all time low In 09. Credit his longevity and athleticism, but he’s no goat

@thomasmccrea3074 9 месяцев назад

He was cooking Boston lol

@frankthetank819 5 месяцев назад

And people think or mj fans think mj better then lebron 😂😂😂 looks how fast strong athletic Lebron is he does everything better then mj not even close

@Lover-ur4te 7 месяцев назад

Yes

@mssrmikebthergang2768 8 месяцев назад

Best player ever idgaf 👑

@sethbullock4193 8 месяцев назад

Best flopper. Best quitter. Best star with no shot. Best star with no handle.

@BSOchoppa 3 месяца назад

This lebron is the reason 2k put Chase down Artist as a badge

@Cdf35 6 месяцев назад

In short, yes.

@fabo0913 6 месяцев назад

Feel like people forget about how good this version of LeBron really was with very limited talent around him.

@user-oi7rk2ks6m 6 месяцев назад

Y'all make all the excuses .........for this guy......I swear........

@moetoosmooth2741 4 месяца назад

Chris Paul was quicker Derrick rose was faster Dwight was stronger and Gerald Green jumped higher but Lebrons combinations are what makes him the best. Kobe was a better scorer Nash was a better passer Howard was a better Rebounder Wade was a better defender but Lebron mixed all that with a 6’8 250 frame. GOAT

@Thedonlilniqqa 7 месяцев назад

bro wtf.. he destroying them

@BlakeAlexander12 5 месяцев назад

It’s funny some people think Kobe was better Swap teams at this time and see what happens

@Sangfroid. 6 месяцев назад

I hate ppl act like this bron wasnt great they act like he was trash til Mia lol im a bron fan i remember even back then thinkin bron the goat but he had no rings to defend my argument but i knew i had never seen anybody like bron those early cle yrs bron was a beast he just couldnt shoot at all lol just a pure athlete really carrying cle those yrs are underrated

@camtoce 8 месяцев назад

Bro glassed prime Dwight Howard Lol

@shobowale101 7 месяцев назад

It’s laughable when they say he took peds in 2012. The man stayed built like a train

@jhonmikeramos7350 7 месяцев назад

lebron james is the best of the universe

@Swaggattack71 7 месяцев назад

Keep in mind while you’re watching this that there are people actually out there that think he wouldn’t be good in the 80s/90s

@KnucklesWTD-uu3ps 6 месяцев назад

No. Mainstream Lebron would not play as well in that era. Most Lebron fans began watching basketball in 2016 and are unaware of initial Lebron. This version of Lebron would play well in the 80s and 90s. But 2000s Lebron is not the version of Lebron in GOAT conversations

@KnucklesWTD-uu3ps 6 месяцев назад

2000s Lebron isn't the version of Lebron in GOAT conversations. The version of Lebron included in GOAT debates is quite different. This version of Lebron would fit in with power houses like Shaq who also dominated. But the debates regarding Lebron in the 80s/90s is involves late 2010s Lebron. The specific version of Lebron used in the debates