Was Michael Jackson a Plagiarist? 

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The so-called "moonwalk" was called: "Backsliding" in my 'Hood in Oakland, California, USA, in the 60's & 70's, b4 breakdancing, Michael popularizing it, and the mass media calling it: "the moonwalk". It was a "Boogaloo" maneuver, ("Boogaloo" WAS a non-violent, urban, street dance style/type popular in the ghetto's and barrios in the USA, in the 60's & 70's) usually danced around an opponent to designate a challenge to a one-on-one "boogaloo" dance off. So the Backslide would b p4med to: intimidatingly denote all the enclosed ground area as the dancer's personal space: "my dance floor", marking the dancer's "territory & stage", and would mark the beginning (and often ending) of the dancer's solo per4mance. The backslide/moonwalk is an example of an aspect "peculiar", once exclusive, 2, & originating in, a minority culture that becomes widespread and co-opted after introduction 2 a wider audience. (Popularized). After white people saw Michael's per4mances showcasing the dance move, said he invented it, (out of ignorance because they had never seen it b4! It sure wasn't per4med at the Grand Ole Opry in Tennessee or on Dick Clark's (White) American Bandstand Television Show!) I used 2 hear people correct their kids in "The 2'Hood" 2 call it "Backsliding" not "moonwalking". "white kids "moonwalk", Black Kids Backslide!!!" heeeheee! Note: The term "Boogaloo" has now un4tunately & sadly, been co-opted by the Far-Right, Republican, white Nationalists/white supremacist tribes & bases 2 mean a deliberate, pre-meditated, violent, populist up-rising, anti-liberal, anti-government insurrection, and civil war. (Why couldn't they the use the waltz or the shag? Why did they have to use a term that was from the domain of people they despise?)

@@seadawgg65 people act like MJ of pop only copied moves Mj in basketball learned from his brother larry jordan and some of his moves are from Julius Irving.

What the fuck did he even ever do then?? Didn't create any dance moves, didn't write his own songs, just recycled those dance moves that anyone could learn over and over again. #overrated. Freddie Mercury remains the real king. Him and Elvis perhaps.

@@bw2937 You are obviously delusional because Michael wrote most pf his songs and created his own dance moves

Quincy Jones is just greedy for money and he was jealous of Michael Jackson's success 😓

I mean he's the only reason Michael was even able to make those songs so, yeah he's earned it

he didnt give proper credit to the guy who taught him moonwalking. Jeffrey Daniels. of course you never heard of him.

Settle the fuck down lmao yall make everything so serious

@@robloxguy9499 he did and said he was a big inspiration. Michael never said he invented a single dance.

Yes. You word it accurately.

He took his dance moves from the Mexican actor dancer Resortes(Adalberto Martínez Chávez)I’m not sure but he may have given credit to Resortes.

Yes exactly. Do you know how many songs have been written in an A-E-D chord progression. MJ was a musical genius.

unlike beyonce

No he really stole tunes like the end theme of Jaws, Bless you for being an angel, A horse with no name. And parts of other songs. Are you kidding?

Are you sure!?? Some times you guys should be honest!! How can you say that they're different! Wow!!

@@pascalinoeyaa8435 I literally listened to the Donna Summers beat multiple times and like I said it sounds a lot more like the Stranger Things theme song than Billie Jean 💯

Are you sure !? Okay just wait ....Have you any Facebook account!?

They he created songs in his head( one thing any talented musician can do ) but I think that he just told a big lie about the way he got the beat of Billie Jean !!! I ain't a hater but I'm faithful to truth!!!

Maybe he heard the bass line and unconsciouly he done something similar because it was an catchy rithym. This is very common in heavy metal for example, like: the down picking in the riff of Looks That Kill (Motley Crue) and Look What the cat dragged in (Poison) (Like, you listen to something so much that your brain uses it when you creates without you see it) . Im not saying he's a saint, and even for a huge mj fan like (he's my favorite artist) its totally possible that he copied conciously or not.

...and a genius performer!

Pahaha #overrated. Go listen to Freddie Mercury

@@bw2937 Freddie Mercury himself considered Michael a genius

@@MrNumber112 Ok?

@@bw2937 Why not both ?

Yeah but one borrows or take something to make something more awesome you have to give props to the original artist and give credit man, i can borrow a lot of stuff and create something but i didnt create that and i know, and im gonna get paid for the music ,shouldnt the original artist get credit ?

Borrowing is not the exact wording, inspired should be, but that should not give much credit to the people he got inspired or the things that inspired him since even the lamaa inspired him to write hits..

Maybe Les Claypool.

maaaaaaaybe Prince. But even that is a stretch. I don't personally think anything is truly "original"

David Bowie, Amanda Martool, Kraftwerk, Mark Bolan, Little Richard, Sister Rosetta Tharpe

This video is dumb. They didn't explain well everything : - Billie Jean is just a coincidence, and it's not even similar. And Michael never admitted stealing stuff for Billie Jean, or any other songs. - he won the lawsuit against The Ink Spot so we shouldn't even talk about it. - The Girl Is Mine doesn't even sound similar to the other song - Don't Stop 'TilYou Get Enough : Greg Phillinganes did write the bridge BUT Michael modified it a lot, removing his co-writing credit. - Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' : it was Quincy Jones idea, not Michael's.

Prince?

Quincy had nothing to do with Billie Jean it was already written by the time he heard it. Listen to the original demo. Quincy is made he can't claim Billie Jean for himself so he talks shit about Michael.

@@kathleenmaclachlan1541 the people at the time didn't want the credit it's funny how after he died every bitches about not getting the credit. It's like Quency Jones Claims Michael didn't write Billie Jean which isn't true Michael had early recordings and things in court. Is funny that now that he's dead everyone wants something from his estate. He can't defend himself he said beautiful black kids taught him the moonwalk be he also enhanced it so he kinda created it.

@@kathleenmaclachlan1541 you are wrong he gave Lionel Ritchie credit for We are the World but he hired people to help write songs they knew that the song they gave him were no longer theirs. It wasn't until a song became a hit that they wanted credit. He was also very fourth coming even Paul McCartney said he warned him that he was gonna buy the Beatles catalog.

As soon as you hire people to write songs for you it is no longer there song.

You only believe what you hear do more research then talk to me.

Greg did get a arrangement credit. He does not deserve half a writing credit for a few bars of horn playing. Michael wrote Don't stop til you get enough. and he shouldn't have to share credit with someone who contributed a few seconds to his song. putting him on as writer would have had people thinking he did half of the song which is false. Michael wrote most of we are the world by himself but gave Lionel Richie half credit for the tiny contribution he made. He was very generous.

@@CCI320 its poor character to say yes to him, and even have the first CDs to come out with Gregs name on it and then refuse it after with no explanation. Poor handling of the situation.

Not inspired But copied!

Too much similarities to call it only inspiration. Its straight copying.

nope he was a plagiarist, sorry to say.

@@anlace3447 Eh... I actually don’t care about this video.

@@kathleenmaclachlan1541 Prince isn’t?😑

@UCI93BefsQXWwMPg4cZiYz-A, first of all, why your username is that?

The bass line of State of Independence and the one of Billie Jean are similar. The notes are the same but the bass line of Billie Jean is slowed down

@@guillermo6593 I think I'm just not musically gifted enough 😅

he actually knows to play the percussion, guitar and piano!

@@nikanmahdevari6206 No.

So? fosse was inspired by earlier(probably black and unknown) performers as well. And that wasn;t Michael's only dance moves.

That is not what he said. "Study the greats and be greater" which is what he did. Michael didn't steal anything. He took what already existed i.e certain dance moves, clothing styles, etc and made them his own thing.

Just saying, Quincy was around a while before Michael came around. Michael couldn't play any instruments or read sheet music so he never would've gotten as big as he was without Quincy Jones

​@@thequinlanshow3326Mike was already big before he met quincy so tf u talking bout

Take a listen to the end tune of Jaws or the Al Bano song. Yes he transferred these songs into his own songs, but those two cases can be seen as plagiarism. The song Heal the World was just partially using an melody that was the backbone of it. There is also some similarity in the song of Dokken (hard rock) Alone again. The song of Al Bano was more similair then the Inkpot song. I fail to see how he got away with it. Furthermore his producers owned rights of songs and used them. That wasn't just Michael's fault. Michael was an idea's man. The greatest songwriters are real musician's like Mark Knopfler, Steve Harris, Bob Dylan. Nowadays you can't find songs that are just played in on the first take without using overdubs and many songs are interpolated. That exactly shows are music is degrading. Real musician's like Motorhead did record in one take without overdubs. This music level is gone and that is very sad. Men like Jimi Hendrix or Rory Galagher those are real musicians. songwriters. Michael isn't a real musician but he did well with the talent he had to get the maximum out of that. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fS_jrDlimOI.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PHgY53QXTyA.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qf5Q2Ix-VJs.html

wanna be starting something is not stolen because of one phrase, what about the rest of the song ? Youn know the 99%? It was proven that the people who tried to claim Will you be there stole their song from an earlier Black group. thats why they lost their lawsuit. They just went after Michael for money. Michael did not write you are not alone.

@@CCI320 I know that "you are not alone" was written by R.Kelly. But it was plagiarism. But not by Michael. Will you be there was based on an old song like I mentioned. But so was Michael's song. But he didn't mention based on etc. which still makes it plagiarism. Compare it to Black rose or Whiskey in the jar (Thin lizzy mentioned the origins of the songs). Furthermore as much as Michael was about perfect dancing and clips. There hasn't been any artist who had to deal with this many plagiarism cases. Of course he has the benefit of the doubt because it very often wasn't proven. And of course we have all these discussions about the involvement of Toto. It was also a common thing that playing musicians didn't get recognised in those days. Steve Luthacker wrote the solo of Running in the night (Lionel Richie), bass and guitar parts of Beat it. It's on RU-vid were he claimed this (interview in which he was quite annoyed). I can send the link if you want. They brought in Van Halen to play it because he was a hard rock guitarists. In both cases Michael could have given them a percentage. Of course we know MJ wasn't a decent musician (professional level). Other trendsetters who died not too long ago like David Bowie, Lou Reed and Prince who both in my opinion were contributing much more to the improvement of music and have not been involved in this many plagiarism cases.

Sure Michael loves Donna......summer was like a Miss Jackson...they sound the same.....same producer..to me that normal

exactly great point!

Stealing would be just straight up taking it. He was inspired by others, but he made it his own.

No he stole

@@aegeanmapping did u not watch the video

Everytime I hear Ed Sheeran's song I am like okay I have heard that somewhere lol

Which one?

what song

They all borrow, Prog bands tend to have a wide range of musical taste that you’d be surprised where things originated from. Nothing is original. Maybe arrangements and even then.

You are using too strong words its not ripped off...

@@kristuti1 It is sir

No he didn’t

@@Tommyboy6426 when he was asked about it in 1983-1985 era he didn’t deny it and he just nodded along as people gave him credit for it… that sounds like him deliberately not giving credit for who taught him the move, even the dance teachers who taught him the moonwalk said they felt like were marginalized after the Motown performance and were never mentioned by him

@@amiramir-qg7xv He wasn’t asked about it in 1983-1985, he barely did any interviews around that time. The first time he talked about the moonwalk was in his book Moonwalker, he said he didn’t create the moonwalk, it was a dance move that kids in the ghetto were doing. And that someone taught him the move, and then he put his own spin on it, then did it for the first time live. And guess what, Jeffrey Daniel, the guy who taught Michael the moonwalk, didn’t create it either. Like Michael, he saw kids doing the dance on the streets. If you look at all the video clips of people doing the moonwalk, and then you look at Michael’s, you’ll clearly see that the moonwalk evolved and changed overtime and became what it is today when Michael Jackson came along. Cab Calloway, who was a dancer and did the moonwalk in the 30s, was asked in the 80s about it, right after Michael did it, and Cab said that move has been around forever, and that back then, it was called “the buzz”

@@Tommyboy6426 he did an interview in 1983 and it’s a recorded interview just an audio and no video of it… look it up yourself and see

@@amiramir-qg7xv is it on RU-vid? If so, post the link. I’m not sure I believe you. He always gave credit where credit is due. In the Making of Thriller, which came out in 83-84, he talked about how Thriller was partly inspired by American Werewolf In London, that’s why he got John Landis to direct Thriller, since he was the director of American Werewolf In London.

fool comment .mj voice feel for me than you mentioned. and his billey jean is very beautiful than that original song🤪. vocals, lyrics , & music is also. its not happens otherwise he is also talented . listen to his all songs for understand his own taste. that taste is higher that others you mention . we call it the feeling

If that's the case why do his home demos sound just like the finished products? You MJ haters are pathetic.

a lot. you just in denial.

#triggeredmjfans

Search Resortes and u will c he stole the dances. And never gave credit. Yes I admit that he refined it and made it his own, but he never gave credit. Like musicians take the song from other artists and make it there own, but they give credit and tell the people who invented the song they borrowed/took.

Absolutely no one is jealous of a dead man. He's not a God, he's dead.

@@SatoruGojo-ow1qh No one “invented the moonwalk” and if you wanna stick to that premise than I guess restores stole it from Bill Bailey and everyone else. Before the moonwalk became MJ’s move, it evolved over the years. It went from being called the backslide to the buzz because the dance was changing. Michael Jackson was the last one to evolve the move into what we know now as the Moonwalk.

@@SatoruGojo-ow1qh He gave credit when it was due. Stop lying.

Truth Hitman Michael was 10x better than Elvis

@@pierreg9328 Only in you DREAMS LOL MJ had to have plastic surgery and he STILL wasn't better looking than Elvis. Plus Elvis had the better voice. And notice how Elvis grew and reinvented himself during the 50s, 60s and 70s. MJ sounded like a little girl all the way up until he was FIFTY. GET OUT OF MY FACE!!! Elvis is the king and will ALWAYS be the King.

Truth Hitman yeah the king huh most his stuff was stolen from black artists , big mama Thornton, chuck berry, and big boy curdup he wasn’t original at all unlike Michael who completely changed the game trying new things different types of music and inspired pretty much the entire whole new generation of now

Pierre G Exactly, MJ mention people that inspired him in interviews.

Truth Hitman ok boomer 😂Michael Jackson is better and finer than Elvis sorry to ruin your party

Stfu.

You're ridiculous. Greg created that section and deserves the 10%. He's not a superstar and doesn't get to make the same amount of money from other opportunities so why not give him what he created? You'd want Michael to get credit for his work so please.

@@ty101ty That section was based on Michael's melody. He would not have come up with it without michael's composition. Thats why its rightly called an arrangement.

He didnt rip off anything. WHite media just wants to tear him down to keep their beloved white idols on top. ALL the white legends stole from Black aritst but that is just swept under the rug while they viciously attack Michael with lies exaggerations. fuck racism.