So basically, Warhammer missed out on a bajillion dollars by not venturing into the idea of creative content being shared or innovated. Fast forward into the future, Blizzard missed out on DOTA being spawned under their flagship brand instead... they lose out to Tencent who bought Riot Games which created League of Legends and Steam having DOTA 2 because Blizzard basically did the almost the same fatal flaw. Neither of those two titles been created had Blizzard accepted the proposal by the map editors to DOTA on WC3.
i am kinda mixed on it, Warhammer Fantasy is very much a mass combat game than a skirmish one, One emphasizing on rows of regiments while the other of a single individual units. A blizzard RTS wouldnt really capture Fantasy overall core of early modern warfare and other historical doctrines against various against fantasy monsters. I very much prefer total war approach which was beta tested by Mark of Chaos and Dark Omen...good times
No, basically if Alan Adam had pushed it to make the game a Warhammer game, we'd have ended with another lost video game of warhammer. Just as Dark Omen which nobody seems to recall of.
The Lord of the Rings (Novel) - 1954 Starship Troopers (Novel) - 1959 Dune (Novel) - 1965 Star Wars - 1977 Warhammer Fantasy - 1983 Warhammer 40k - 1987 Warcraft - 1994 StarCraft - 1998 Everything is a copy. It has ALL been inspired by each predecessor.
This is such BS. Art wise (clearly visibly and recognizable) Warcraft copied almost everything from Warhammer. Tolkien started it but GW gave it a face in 3D figurines. And by now many years later the Warhammer world is 100 x bigger then that of LOTR. You can be inspired true but you can also just copy paste and change some names which Warcraft did with Warhammer.
@@Leon-bc8hm WHFB and 40K borrowed a lot of ideas from previous fantasy and sci fi, but what they came up with is really its own thing. If it wasn't, they couldn't sue everyone. 40K borrows from fantasy races, Dune, and Heinlein's starship troopers, but mixing it with the Catholic Space not-C's aesthetics and sampling all the historical armies from WWI to ancient Rome made it something all it's own. WhFB really combined a ton of stuff, too, from history and fantasy and D&D stuff, vampires, pirates, mesoamerica, Egypt, sinbad movies, Arthurian legend, and ninja rats. Instead of one author, GW used a collaborative technique, with writers, artists, and sculptors. Anyway, I'm rambling
@@AliceBowieMaking an appeal to them sueing is a logical fallacy. Anyone could attempt to sue anyone for anything. That doesn't mean anything in regards to them "making their own thing". Not saying they have or have not but that isn't a logical argument and even using that, you could use it as evidende of the contrary because of all their failed lawsuits and them attempting to sue over very asinine things, like them sueing over the use of the term "Space Marine" and failing miserably. It's silly and if you were to make an appeal to that it would actually detract from the credibility in the same way the boy who cries wolf loses credibility for crying wolf so many times. Warhammer has made a pretty cool universe but let's not try to use the appeal of their lawsuits to determine whether it's original or its own thing.
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It is quite hard to buy into "some of the artwork was inspired by Warhammer" line. It is probably much closer to "total ripoff". Similar thing with Starcraft. Tyranids = Zerg, Eldar = Protoss and obviosly The Imperium = Humans.
Even if starcraft copied warhammer 40k, warhammer 40k copied starshiptroopers and warhammer fantasy copied lord of the rings so calling blizzard a ripp off is a bit hypocritical.
@@jamespaguip5913 Did you know that lord of the rings copied real life myths and legends. Trolls, dwarves- Scandinavia, orcs- UK, undead- Slavic, dragons - everywhere, etc...
@@nikolababic3588 man Warhammer fans must be jealous because StarCraft is the king of RTS games while Dawn of war series killed itself because Dawn of war 3 also Warhammer 40k copied Dune, xenomorphs and lord of the kings
@@janp5063 man Warhammer fans must be jealous because StarCraft is the king of RTS games while Dawn of war series killed itself because Dawn of war 3 also Warhammer 40k copied Dune, xenomorphs and lord of the kings
In short: Patrick Wyatt, the Producer on Warcraft, explains in a lengthy "making of" feature that some at Blizzard had wanted to make a Warhammer game, but things just didn't work out.
Alliance - Empire/Bretonnia Dwarves - Dwarves High Elves - High Elves Forsaken - Vampire Counts Night Elves - Dark Elves Orcs - Orks Goblins - Goblins Tauren - Beastmen Trolls - Lizardmen Gnomes - Halflings Gnolls - Skaven Pandaria - Cathay Old Gods - Chaos Gods Vrykul - Norsca Centaurs - Bull Centaurs Ogres - Ogres Lich King - Archeon the Everchosen Burning Legion - Demons of Chaos Dreadlords - Demon Princes This is just off the top of my head, but there is probably lots more that are basically rip offs of Warhammer
Yeah no you’re reaaaaaaaaally pulling at straws for most of those. The super core races - humans, dwarfs, orcs, goblins, etc - are clearly heavily influenced from Warhammer but even they have branched out over time. Everything else is you apparently thinking that concepts like the undead, Lovecraftian horror, or China were invented for Warhammer and did not exist before.
Hey I just wanted to say thanks for making this video. I know nothing about both franchises, but needed to figure out the true story of this for a video I'm working on. This made research a lot easier.
Its a fact that Warcraft and Starcraft are obviously copying heavily from Warhammer though. Official or not, the similarities go far beyond just a simple homage, lol.
Taking inspiration from is not the same as copying lol, its hardly the same thing when blizzard copy your setting almost 1:1 but just change names around
@@Leon-bc8hm at least during warcraft 3 it was still about war. World of warcraft turned it into a softie diversity thing 😂 While warhammer from ol to now....everyone's still racist but in its own right 😂
Great content, but try mixing up the intonation in your speech, it will draw more people in if you sound like you care more about what you're reviewing
I wouldn't call his voice monotone. You also can't please everyone. If you change his way of speaking, some people would like it while some would prefer to hear this. I think it's also a bit judgemental if someone said someone doesn't care just based on their inflections. Case and point, not everyone likes Angry Joe when he reviews games and others love his passion. Similarly, some people will enjoy listening to this more mellow way of speaking over anything else. But who is to say what the "general audience" prefers.
copy an artstyle 1:1 and then theyre against cooperating with the original owner, because they fear they will be hindered in their creativity ...ye. makes sense
Yes Warcraft art wise and also story wise took 99% from Warhammer. It is almost as if they swapped some names with their own. They uglyfied and kiddyfied Warhammer. On top of that Warhammer has a real lore while Warcraft is just fluff. Total Warhammer doing a great job at educating the masses now on what is what.
