Great video and reviews! We love our Waste Master sewer hose... I think it looks great when it's all set up, and my black tank tec / husband loves the way it works!
I bought the whole shebang. Both hoses, everything! It is the most unpleasant part of this whole life style and from everything I've read, what makes it unpleasant is the chronic component failure. Ie, hoses and connections. The stuff is expensive but worth every penny if it saves me from taking a crap bath at some dump station. Compared to the rediculous hose I was supplied with at the dealership, it's like night and day. Thanks for the review and the recommendation. See ya out there. Neil
You bet. If you have any questions or need advice or have feedback on the system, give Doug Drainmaster a call - drainmaster.com/main/ He is the inventor of the system. Longtime RVer and a great guy. Cheers, Ray
Check this out, www.rvupgradestore.com/Storage-System-for-Waste-Master-Sewer-Hose-p/5709.htm?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6siK8pi62QIVAlcNCh0Y_wpNEAQYCSABEgJ3RfD_BwE&gdffi=d722fab84a06472899ce2a16e4d2ed3f&gdfms=FCC1359D3AF549748AC53C31CC50DF37
Yes, seen them, Doug has those on his site too - drainmaster.com/rv/products/full-view/100207 I ended up getting an underside box from him and modding my own storage - www.loveyourrv.com/ultimate-rv-sewer-system-modification/ :)
Hi Ray, nice video on the new Waste Master hose. I like the design and concept, the clear windows is real nice to see if you have clear fluid after flush. Only one thing I wish you had shown us is how well it may coil up. I use a large flexible bucket to store my hose in, not sure this would work the same. Thanks for taking the time to share!
Fred Besaw Thanks Fred. I will try to do that in a future video when I show the storage solution I come up with. I'm leaning towards building a box on my pull out bike rack at the back of the trailer. - Ray
Ray, Really nice set up. However when I Googled on Waster Master all I can find id the standard kit and none of the accessories. i.e. 10' extension and cam lock for conventional fittings. What site did you use?
Charles Lloyd I have lots of product links in my blog post - www.loveyourrv.com/reviewing-the-waste-master-rv-sewer-management-system/ or the Lippert store at - lci1.com/qr*14 look under the menu item "shop by departments then down to waste management link
Of course you got it for free so price is not a concern, but to give it such a glowing review when it doesn't do anything much more than a good Rino hose that has a clear adapter and rubber gasket on the right angle end! As I view it gluing that large "cam" fitting may not be possible on many Class "C" homes that have a sewage compartment that is enclosed! I will stick to my setup with a five foot, ten foot and twenty foot hoses that I can attach as needed to fit to any situation.
Here is an update to the review - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Oigk2WHnrVs.html I ended up modding things so it can be always attached and stored right where I use it. I no longer need to disconnect it. www.loveyourrv.com/ultimate-rv-sewer-system-modification/ I've had the setup almost 4 years now and love it. RV companies should get on the ball and offer a similar option rather than messing around disconnecting and washing out and storing a sewer hose. Maybe I'll make a video showing how easy dumping is now. Cheers, Ray
According to what I read that cam lock is used to hook up to your old system so you can use new hoses to make sure you like it before cutting your pipe
"Male Cam Loc to Male Bayonet Fitting- So, you've upgraded to our Waste Master Cam Loc system but what if sometime in the future you need to connect with a bayonet fitting? For instance to a honey wagon. This is the perfect fitting to have on hand for such situations." drainmaster.com/rv/products/full-view/100208
An excellent product, and a great review by you. I agree with your plus and minus observations. We will stick with our current system, though, until we can change over to a composting toilet. Getting rid of having to use a black tank will give us an extra 30 gallons of grey tankage. That is where we need it the most, anyway. Thanks for the great job you did on this. By the way, four months on Vancouver Island sounds very wonderful right now, as we head into another brutal Texas Summer here in Dallas. Rock On
Allen Hare Thanks, it is a pretty sweet place to spend the summer. Lots of sunny weather in the summers but not too hot, we have nature's big ocean air conditioner right next door. Stay cool down there, Cheers Ray
The whole "system" is the Drain Master System which includes the hose, Cam lock assembly, and hose storage cabinet that mounts under your trailer. I installed the whole system on my new Keystone Premier Travel Trailer myself in about 2 hours, rerouting the rear grey tank to connect with the front black & grey tank valves. I will never have to deal with moving waste hoses from multiple tank drain connections ever again! When you finish draining all your tanks from one outlet, you push the hose back into the cabinet, close the door and you're done. Worth every penny!
I drove fuel tanker trucks and they all use the camlock system. You dont want gas or diesel leaking. The price is high ($125) but the first time the bayonet type leaks all over, you'll wish you had camlocks! I would think the old slinky support would still be usable for those weekend trips.
Its been a great hose, still working well after 5 years of full-time RVing. A little while after I first got it I modded my sewer system and installed a storage box for it right at the output, now I don't have to take it off, just leave it connected all the time. Has worked out great since we often dry camp and use dump stations along the way - here is a demo of it in action www.loveyourrv.com/quick-rv-waste-tank-dump/
The problem with not having a standard bayonet fitting looks like it will cause more problems than it will fix.. can't imagine why they changed the end.
Ray, or anyone comment on how it is holding up? Amazon reviews are only at 67% lots of people saying the hose separates and comes apart quite easily. A common theme is heat damaging the hose. We are in hot California and having second thoughts on this upgrade.
Been using it full time for 5 years now, no issues. 6 months it's out all the time and the other 6 it's used at dump stations. I don't camp in very hot temps though, summers in BC average in the 70-80s. Here was a video from last year - www.loveyourrv.com/quick-rv-waste-tank-dump/ Here the website of the manufacture - drainmaster.com/rv/ They are based in Hollister California, so you would think it could handle the California heat. Give them a call with your concerns. Cheers, Ray
Thanks Ray, the cam lock makes a lot of sense. My son drives a tanker truck and they use cam lock hoses, it's about time we have it for our RVs. My only concern, like you mentioned is where the heck to store the hose with that massive 90° elbow since it does not disconnect from the hose.
Love Your RV Exactly what I'm thinking. Soon as they put a head end disconnect, I will buy it. Next time you're in Utah, let me know and I'll hook you up with some great free boondocking sites not listed on the free camping websites.
Super review, always enjoy your videos... But, it looks like a PIA to set up and the cost?! Wooooo Weeeee! I stick to the higher end stinky slinky's. You can buy a whole lot of 'em for that price... ;)
Just curious Ray, if you dump once a week why do you want a poop pipe outside of your rig?? Why not hook up, dump and flush then put hose away out of the sun?? Sewer pipes are not attractive. Is it a way to have company at your rig? And the see thru window?? You enjoy this??
WOW $159.00. Just maybe a bit over priced. I think buying a good quality bayonet hose would be a much better option. Great video as always. Please keep up the good work.
The folks over at nofreezewaterhose.com have a bayonet to cam lock adapter for sale. Looks substantial, and they even mention Lippert Components in their material. While I like the Lippert Components use of the cam lock, I dislike their insistence that we modify our existing bayonet connection permanently to move to the cam lock fitting. Sure, Lippert sells a cam lock to bayonet adapter, but Aside from Lippert's hose, and the heated sewer hose at nofreezewaterhose.com, I know of no other RV accessory suppliers who have jumped on the cam lock bandwagon. The only way I see cam locks becoming commonplace for RV sewer management is if a major manufacturer starts putting cam lock sewer fittings on RVs as they go out the door, and supply those new RVs with a cam lock sewer hose and get an RV accessories maker to start making cam lock sewer hoses available at retail. I've also seen some videos and comments online which indicate that the hose material in the Waste Master isn't quite up to being set out in the sun for days on end for even a few camping seasons as it breaks down and gets pinholes easily. While the Waste Mater connections are probably the best in the business, the hose material might not be.
@@jeromep You are so correct, I can't even find out if I cut off the little nubs on my MH how much of the cam lock needs to go over the MH pipe. I only have about 1 1/8 of an inch in lenth to attach the cam lock because of the configuration of my plumping, They have this 5 foot bayonet extention that would hook up then you have to buy the two female to attach the hoses. That amounts to another 160.00 dollar plus the waste master system so about $ 290 to $300. NO THANKS.
@@cowboyup545 My service compartment on my MH doesn't even have enough clearance for me to put a Camco Rhino Blaster or Rhino Blaster Pro on the sewer outlet, let alone modifying the existing bayonet connector to support a permanently glued on cam lock connector. Looking at the bayonet to cam lock adapter from No Freeze Water Hose indicates to me that I couldn't even do a twist-on adapter to support cam lock sewer hoses. I guess I'll be stuck with old tech, however I've never had an issue with bayonet connectors and sewer dumping. I always choose a connector which has four pin locking and I don't use my hose for more than a couple of seasons before letting it go. They don't last forever and they aren't that expensive to replace. I think my last hose kit cost me $45, and that was for a name brand higher end hose. For the cost of the Lippert system along with any adapters, you can buy a lot of average to excellent quality sewer hoses. If the seal on the hose end of the bayonet connector starts to degrade, you can replace it as replacement seals can easily be found online and at a lot of places that sell camping stuff. I've never had the bayonet seal ever go bad before the sewer hose itself was shot.
Are you still using this system. How has it performed? are you able to used a valtera Gate valve on the black tank to not get any surprises when you open the cap on the outlet? thanks for the review
RV Granny Yes, there are a lot of pieces to it. They go together pretty easily, but it would get tiresome disassembling and assembling it all the time. May be worth it to folks that do extended stays somewhere as it is a nice ramp and easy to set the level on.
Is been A FULL YEAR since you got this gadget would you recommend it over the rest? I'm new to the RV world and looking to spend the money right :) Thanks for all the videos and thanks in advance for your response.
I really like it, having the valve on the head end is very handy, good flow and the hose inside stays clean since it's smooth. Love how easy it is to expand and compress. so far it's proved to be durable. I've just finished installing a storage box for it in such a way that now I never have to disconnect the hose, just pull it out and dump and put it back. - www.loveyourrv.com/ultimate-rv-sewer-system-modification/ The only issue I've had at some dump stations they have that flip up metal flap and the head won't fit in the hole so I have to use a short piece of old style hose. Put it in the hole then the Waste master in the other end. Cheers Ray
Thanks I ended up buying the sewer solution drainage kit, very happy with my first try, no mess and clean dump, mostly space was the factor for my finally decision, this waste master is to big for my 21 ft rig. Thanks again.
Yes, love it. Here is a mod I did to make it easier to use. I keep it always hooked up. www.loveyourrv.com/ultimate-rv-sewer-system-modification/ and here is a demo I did of it just last April www.loveyourrv.com/quick-rv-waste-tank-dump/ Cheers, Ray
Hey Ray! We just bought our first RV, a Grand Design Imagine 2670MK. We are really excited for the spring and spending money like crazy getting outfitted. I have learned a lot from your videos. You are likely a leading expert on Sewer Hoses (among most things RV). I purchased a Waste Master and 20 foot extension. Was wondering if you could answer a question or two: Would it work to normally bayonet fit a Camco Dual Flush Gate Valve to my RV, then permanently retrofit the gate valve to my Waste Master cam? Then I would have this valve always at the end of my line, could take the valve off if I needed to connect something fitted for bayonet, and I then, after dumping, could back-flush my black and gray water tanks and then flush my Waste Master hose after back flushing my tanks? Or am I trying to do too much? Thanks, Ray and happy trails!
REVEREND DAVID HAMM Sure, here is the company website - lci1.com/qr*14 or if you check out my blog post I have links to there as well. Cheers Ray - www.loveyourrv.com/reviewing-the-waste-master-rv-sewer-management-system/
Great job on the review. What were they thinking designing a waste removal system and require you to cut off your existing bayonet setup? They should at least have an adapter that would hook right on to your bayonet, so you don't have to monkey around at the Hardware store to get the product to work. Would be easy to design in a clamp setup at the 90 degree so that's removable. I do like the solid rubber fitting cam lock, that's the best part of the system. Flow system is too much futzing around, so that's not worth bothering with. I looked up the pricing and with the adapters right around $275! Honestly Ray, would you have bought that setup? LOL
NWHiker Thanks. :) I almost bought the main hose in Quartzsite at the RV show, they had a booth there. But having to spend the extra for the extension and bayonet adapter was a little more than I could afford at the time. I had just spent $400 on solar, $260 on new batteries, $180 on the Fantastic fan and 200 bucks on roof sealing materials. Would have been a tough sell to the wife. ;)
Martin Newville I have two 40 gallon gray tanks. One is for the kitchen sink and one is for the shower and bath sink. The shower always fills first. If I have a valve on the end of the sewer pipe I can them open both gray tank valves and they will equalize allowing for more shower capacity when out boondocking.
My sewer output is 3 inches inside diameter if I remember right, worked fine on that. If you have any questions give Doug at Drainmaster a call - drainmaster.com/main/ They stock all the adapters and mounts and can custom install things if need be. Cheers Ray
James Hamm No, but I have seen it or something like that being used in a few RV Parks I've been too, looks interesting. you'll have to let me know how you like it.
Love Your RV Hey Ray, tried the Sewer Solution after rigging up a 65' 1" PVC septic access pipe around my house and I have to tell you: this thing rocks (even on relatively low well-water pressure). All the "stuff emptied and was macerated from a 30 gallon tank in about 3 minutes and the device even cleans itself. If you ever have a chance to demo one, I think you will be pleased.
is the inside of the cam loc set up a solid gasket, or can you change the gasket when it wears out. i work in the oil field as a water hauler and we have to change out the gaskets in our fittings and hoses every few month but thats connecting and removing fittings multiple times a day every day
There are replacement gaskets - drainmaster.com/rv/products/full-view/100199 They last a long, time I have yet to need one and my system is 3 years old now. Cheers, Ray
God help you if any part of this fails. Ya can’t ask anyone to borrow there hose cause you’ve cut the 4 locking nipples and glue the coupler on permanently. Yes it an awesome idea if every one else around has it.
I've plumbed mine to always be hooked up using an underbelly storage box. After using it a few years now I'd never want to go back. www.loveyourrv.com/ultimate-rv-sewer-system-modification/ We used dump stations often since we like to boondock and it makes dumping super quick and easy. Cheers, Ray
You get what you pay for. We are full-time RVers so hose gets a ton of use, still using the same one now 6 years later. I also modded it up to stay attached all the time. Makes the dump process really quick and convenient for me. www.loveyourrv.com/quick-rv-waste-tank-dump/
how do you prevent the part that goes into the sewer to fall off?is there a way to secure it? i know a dump buddy prevent that but those dont fit the lippert.
This hose has a rubber donut type seal at the end to fit into the sewer hole. I use it at my summer RV park for months and it doesn't; fall out. Fits most sewer holes tight It also has a on/off valve right at the end of the hose. So you open that last and hold in place if you are worried about it popping out. I actually have added a storage box. Here is a demo ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-37juazWfKEo.html Cheers, Ray
Hi guys, first just let me say that your instruction videos are awesome. What I want to ask is about your sewer master. I just bought a 2002 30 foot Winnebago brave and going to need a few essential one being a sewer hose. Do you still feel it's a good thing or should I look elsewhere. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Tom McGinn
Thanks Tom. Yep, still love mine. I customized the sewer output and added a storage box so I never need to disconnect the hose, sure makes dumping a breeze. www.loveyourrv.com/ultimate-rv-sewer-system-modification/ For more info on the hose or a permanent install solution give DrainMaster a call - drainmaster.com/rv/ Cheers Ray
@@LoveYourRV Ray, I bought the whole system and installed it on my Keystone Premier Travel Trailer, I would never imagine using anything else ever again!! Thanks for your video!!
You've had this system a while now, what are your thoughts on its quality and function now that you've been using it. I did watch your other video by the way.
Very high quality and works great. I've recently met the inventor of the system Doug from DrainMaster drainmaster.com/ and he has clued me into how he envisioned the thing to be used. It's supposed to stay attached to the rig. I've picked up a special storage box from him and will be mounting the system soon. I have to modify my sewer output a bit. Sort of a DIY project, will post about it in the future, likely a few weeks from now. - Ray
***** Not sure on compost disposal. Most CA state parks I've been to that don't have sewers for the campsites usually have som sort of dump station close by. I was recently at a park in Texas, Big Bend Ranch State Park on the Rio Grande and noticed they had above ground composting toilets in the campground, I guess to protect the river, but still had a sewer dump at the park headquarters.
I wrote to Gov Brown. All dump stations should have a compost station next to it! The compost could be used for highway and park landscaping (including Commercial RV Parks). Oh, and it can be used to landscape around the speed train!
"Be Very Cautious".......There are other products being sold that need to attach to the "BAYONET" SYSTEM that comes standard with 99.999% of RV and Trailer Black Tanks.
Bought one and the very first time I stretched it out to use the seams split in 2 spots. Inner material is extremely thin and the unit did not appear to be well manufactured at all. Would not recommend it.
Give Drainmaster a call they have a toll free #, ask for Doug, he is the inventor. I'm sure he would like to know about this. drainmaster.com/main/ Ray
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