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The standard versions of these bikes, S1000XR and Multistrada V4 PP, are the best supersport tourers made. It seems that the RS adds too many compromises and cost for the relatively minimal amount of extra power and sportiness. The M1000XR’s inability to accommodate the S’s excellent paniers and top box (just soft baggage) moves it from being a multi-day mountain road muncher to a comfier (and compromised) version of the S1000RR. Both were created to make a point, but ultimately are pointless. The standard versions make far more sense for their purpose.
@@SP-xd8gs I haven't ridden the RS, but was just looking at the claimed power which is about +20hp over the PP. It's still way lower than the desmo in the V4 S Panigale. In contrast, BMW gives you essentially the same shift-cam motor of the S1000RR in the M1000XR.
@@bernhtp i understand that but you have to consider "feeling" and a bmw for me is sterile no soul, i do have one on order though and then i can directly compare, its not always about numbers on paper, the ducati feels like its alive and has a soul!
For $1k you can put the S1000XR tail section which solves the luggage problem. Just bought the M knowing that was an issue but there is a solution without sinking another $17k for the Ducati.
Great idea? After considering the facts involved, I don't think so. In many countries this would be an unapproved and unauthorised interference with the homologated design of the motorcycle. How do you get it through tech inspection? Maybe in my country, it wouldn't pass muster. Because this won't be homologated, who's gonna insure it? If you insure it as a proper M1000XR (de facto you will be lying) and crash, then the insurance company can very quickly find a reason to exclude it from benefits, or refuse to pay. And the worst? The rear of the M1000XR is probably not designed to deliver/change loads, so eventually when you load Top Case on it you take all the risk. As a load bearing component, is the M1000XR frame at all identical to the S1000XR? On the Ducati V4 RS it is not, as it doesn't count the Top Case on the tail, but it can at least fit side panniers. Whereas on the Ducati V4 Pikes Peak it is and the frame is tailored for that. Question: is the sum of the above worth USD 1000? Yep: the fully configured new S1000XR is much better for touring. But I'd much rather take the V4 Pikes Peak personally. Unless the potential buyer insists strictly on the BMW brand. Anyway, I agree with the observation about price: a much higher price on the RS is a no go.
If you want side cases and top case, it's quite a bit more than $1k!! You need passenger footpeg assembly, lowered Akra S1000xr can, license plate holder to move flashers back and the S1000xr 2024 body panels that allow the side case mount to be installed. Trust me, I did it!
need a more extreme version of the MTS， m1000r is good but without adaptive. Will stay with my PP until this happen. more attractive for me is the upcoming two cylinda 1490 ktm with adaptive which is more fun or a Aprilia version of PP with RSV4 engine with adative
Picked up my MXR on Monday. All the parts for the factory Panniers came on Tuesday. Theres a few things to change out. (Carrier, passenger foot pegs, S lower pipe, S rear license plate holder) but its an easy bolt on and its all factory. The rear subframe of the M is identical to the S.
Need panniers. It's why I would buy either bike. So that leaves the S1000XR--but I bought the Pikes Peak instead. A pity BMW wouldn't and couldn't easily offer the panniers on the M1000XR.
Another commenter said "For $1k you can put the S1000XR tail section which solves the luggage problem." But either way, you can't go wrong with the Pike's Peak!
I have a Pikes Peak and it is plenty fast.......I just find Ducati's have soul and the BMW's do not period. I like BMW's but I do not love them....I have sold every one as my Ducati stable increases. I just did the Dragon on my Pikes Peak and if this guy is saying that the XR is faster from side to side I would be surprised. I have sport bikes, Hyper Motard etc. that do not change direction as fast as my Pikes Peak.....unless the RS is different from the PP.
Carbon fiber wheels on these bikes and potholes don't play nice especially when going long distance. I think Ducati made the right decision on not adding that to the RS. If you want to track a bike this is not it although you can but how many racers use carbon fiber wheels on the track. Like none..
@@DucatiDiariesboth great bikes for the money you can’t beat that M but what’s the point buy the RS and throw those saddle bags on and go long distance and have fun best of both worlds..
Not sure why this guy has these bikes 🤣🤣🤣 Can't use the power, doesn't use the electronics, won't tour on the tourer, doesn't trust the adaptive cruise 🤣🤣🤣🤣 give someone those bikes that can and will use them, wasted on ye
It greatly annoys me u have these videos with these bikes and never turn a key to hear them, worse still when you do ride them you block out the sound of them for commentary🤦
@@DucatiDiaries there are tunes to do little bit of this and that for bikes, but this tune is nuts. Eliminates all that flat spot between about 5000 and 8000 RPM
About service: flat out this is not true, it depends on where you live and service > the reality? I have both a PikesPeak and a fat BMW K1600GT and the prices (hourly service rates) are a bit more expensive just at BMW. Also, home oil and oil filter changes are very easy on the Ducati Multistrada V4 PikesPeak, but more difficult on the BMW due to the "dry" separate oil sump system. Rather, I would see a bit of a problem with the Ducati V4 RS in that it has a desmo and therefore there are shorter service intervals for valve adjustments. Working on a desmo requires a more experienced mechanic and more careful work. The engine on the V4 PikesPeak Granturismo has its first major service at 60,000km. Service requirements (and therefore prices) especially on new Ducati Multistrada's with Granturismo V4 series engines are simply more favourable than anyone thinks.
BMW disagrees with you. But I personally don't consider either of these sports tourers. They're specialty bikes for people with the money to spare for a high performance comfortable ride. Both bikes can be ridden over long distances with comfort. To your point, here's what's on BMW's website: The equation for an incomparable riding experience of M-like performance and XR-like long-distance capability. The M XR is highly versatile with its sport, *touring* and passenger suitability.
@@DucatiDiaries BMW can disagree with me with their marketing campaign by putting XR on a naked, does not make it a touring bike. The least they could have done was put panniers on the bike, (if it’s a touring bike) and a comfortable riding position.
@@cmaz8547 I actually rode the BMW more aggressively in twisties after this and I became a big fan. It's now the top bike I want to buy next (after I win the lottery). You should try it if you haven't. It's a masterpiece. However, if I were going to tour, I'd choose the Multistrada.
Your friend is correct, don't let slower drivers in front of you dictate your Ride, Slower traffic Riders need to Warp away from Cars. Adaptive in Motorcycles is useless, cause you'll constantly be switching back to manual control. In cars, it's perfect, in Bikes, it's a gimmick .
I have a 200 mile round trip to go help my mother. Unfortunately, 98% of it is highway. The adaptive cruise control kept me sane on those rides. I viewed it as fun to use, safe to keep on (if someone jumps in front of you, the bike will immediately slow down), and a way to relax during those long rides.
I think this is a layman's opinion, which can be said by someone who hasn't experienced it in practice and therefore hasn't used the adaptive system on long journeys. It's really practical on a long trip and oddly enough quite fun.
@@hewlett62 I been riding Bikes over 40 Yrs, and if you’re going to let another vehicle in front of you dictate your “Long Rides”, then you have more patience than most Riders. Why would you stay behind some idiot in a car when you can just warp away and be rid of the traffic around you. As stated, normal cruise is a must, Adaptive is a waste, plus it’s just something else to fix on your bike “when” it craps out. 👎👎
@@elithegreat6463 Of course. You've been driving for 40 years? OKAY. So? On a scooter, around town on your daily commute? All right, great. How many miles have you ridden on a motorcycle with adaptive cruise control, which is primarily what we're talking about here? Zero? So what qualifies you to say, definitively, that adaptive cruise control is useless? You forgot to add that it's your opinion, then that would be fair. But you're making a blanket statement. Others obviously have a different opinion that they don't impose on others. With this logic of yours, you could, for example, claim that you have been using a Nokia push button phone for 20 years and a modern touchscreen phone with AI is useless. For you it is, for others it is not. On driving: if I drive say 800km a day, why not drive 200km sharper, fully manual, nobody dictates my pace of driving, to use your dictionary. How about another 200km when I want to take a break and let the adaptive cruise control go at 130km/hr on the motorway. Others (according to you idiots) are also driving 130, so who is dictating my pace? Nobody, mate. When I want to pass a truck, I put on my left turn signal, the adaptive cruise control senses it and I pass smoothly, no jerking, no breaking. Plus, the blind spot assist in my mirrors (rear collision radar) gives me info that overtaking is perfectly safe. Smooth, smooth, everything at ease. and then for the next 200km, full manual again, and the speed and dynamics I want. No dictating the pace by anyone else is out of the question, which of course you would know if you had the awareness and especially the practical experience of how it works in real life. After all, if someone calls another driver in front of them an idiot, then there's not much to explain. Have a nice day and both wheels down on the ground.
@DucatiDiaries 900 MI, K&N air filters but I left the carbon traps in, drivability is so nice I didn't want to risk playing around with air control of the mass air meter, with two giant throttle bodies there's no loss of any air, first two weeks it's been one update after the other when I get in the car in the morning, last week a warning flashed across the screen for 1 second that it entered in engineering test mode, car felt soggy actually for that Drive, another morning I had yellow and purple gauge cluster, other than that car seems nice, amazingly smooth and quiet at 100 mph, they could easily put a Lincoln badge on this car, the sport mode and track mode and normal mode are completely different,I floored it yesterday only saw a 7,000 RPM but that was in normal mode..... I think the car is faster than my older 21, it definitely has more torque it goes without having the downshift..... active exhaust is nice, it's really a very nice car that they worked hard to refine...
@DucatiDiaries trade in the wife's MachE, or the Tesla... 😀..... I don't see my 21 at the dealer anymore, I'm wondering if they even had a buyer before I drove off the lot with the 24🤣.... you should take that Mustang for a test drive, talk to the dealer and see what they say, you can be sure the car will be nice at 90 and up miles per hour, and the drivability like I said is very impressive, Ford clearly worked hard to make a nice car.. you have too many electric vehicles in your life LOL
Nope... i know better, no bikes for me.... and if i was it would be a cruiser, vrod or something, but its never happening, ... carbon fiber Wheels ? As if these bikes are not missiles already, stay safe on those things.
@yojimbo21 because his channel needs it quite frankly, I'm also at work bored getting overtime, it's a Mustang Channel and while I certainly have Mustangs, we also live about 30 Mi away from each other.... but quite frankly you being salty doesn't even deserve a reply.
