A lot of people say that Spydercos are ugly but to me I think they look great. I think it's the functionality and the feeling of quality that makes them look good to me. It would be kind of nice if Spyderco would do what Hoag does and include a high quality zipper pouch. That would kind of off set the box and somewhat high price.
Nice review and comparisons, Sir. I just bought a spanking new PM2 a few minutes ago. I was torn among the Benchmade 940, PM2, and the Griptilian. Since I already have a Kershaw Funxion EMT, I needed a flat blade; thus, the PM2. I spent 3 hours at the store comparing various knives. I think I made a right decision with the PM2.
Great choice man! I have a 940, they're both great. Pm2 is a far superior slicer though. Not a huge fan of the Grips, don't live that plasticy handle lol
I have a PM2 cruwear micarta, an old Military 2, a PM2 Maxamet, and i just recently purchased the blacked out Salt PM2 with Magnacut and milled g10 handles 👌 out of all the knives out there i will always rather have a PM2 in my pocket
I've owned a para 3 for a few months and I love it I decided to get a pm2 also and got a good deal on a s45vn version with camo scales and after handling the pm2 I think I might like a little more than my para 3
The 940 looks good but it is a bad cutter and to thick behind the edge. I think the pm2 is a far superior blade shape and the utilitarian design makes it so much more versatile imo. You have the thickness for a hard use knife and you also have the insane grind they do with that wicked tip that makes it excellent for fine detail work. I love benchmade axis lock but the only knife I’ve ever had from them that cuts worth a damn right out the box is the 535bk-4 Bugout with the m390 and aluminum scales. That drop point blade and hollow grind make it such a better cutter than their flagship griptillion or is Osborne (940). Granted not all knives need to be laser beams but I want something that can both slice and handle everyday tasks with ease. For me the materials used, type of grind, the thickness behind the edge and how thick the blade stock is makes all the difference for true edc for me. The 940 just falls short in to many areas and I would never buy a Ontario rat 1 or rat 2 knives lol. The para 3 and para 2 from spyderco have insane laser beam blades with the blade stock to be beat to hell aside for the tip. The shaman is even better and can do even more imo. For me the carbon fiber and s90v Bugout or the aluminum and m390 Bugouts are right there with the pm3 and pm2 and look more visually appealing imo. They just don’t cut as fine or as precise compared to the spydercos. I only am mentioning these knives since you feature them in this video. I think the lynch or mxg clips are far superior and let the spydercos deep carry much better and no hot spots in the hands. The normal bugouts feel cheap but they are not and can take a massive beating.
The msk Doug Ritter ,(basically a grip with flat ground 20cv blade,and g10 scales blows the pm2 away in every category,except weight,it weighs 4.6 oz.I edc mostly a kapara-if u ever handle one,you will know why
Interesting to hear your take. The video did leave me wondering what it is about tip down carry you dont like so much but sounded like maybe just didn't feel right to you for some reason, not sure. As a side, I had the RAT knife and it did not hold up to what I would consider moderate use. I could be forgetting but dont think I tried prying with it or anything and the liner lock still basically broke, got jammed over and didn't really work right. Anyway, thanks for the video.
That liner on the rat isn't the strongest! So yeah, I can totally see that. As far as tip down carry, it just feels like more of a natural draw doing tip up
Your clip on the pm2 is way off get a star wrench and fix it you will see a difference. Your clip is way off bring it more to the middle it will ride better in your pocket good video man. I've also had several 940s there a good knife for small edc carry
They should be ashamed, a buck 60 for a knife with a free standing stop pin. once you have one fail , in an emergency situation, you'll avoid em like a " made in Pakistan" flea market knife. You gotta ask yourself, what's holding that " big ole pin" in place?... probably 2 little screws just itchin to leave you up shit creek without a paddle .
it's funny when you wanna buy a knife you been thinking about getting for a while but oh ya they don't exist anymore... kinda like ALL OG Italian stilettos smh
On my old para 3 I would agree. I got a pm2 on s45 yesterday and the lock stick is insane. I have 2 press super hard. Tried using sharpie and graphite and that didn't work. Hoping it breaks in over time.
How is the Native Chief? I handled it in a store and felt a bit too long for me. What is your experience with it in terms of size, maneuverability, durability, edge retention etc?
@@vgman94 I find it really light for maneuverability . I don't know how durably it is . I don't really want to push it to hard since it doesn't have steel liners and the tip on it is like a needle . They say its strong enough but still I wish it had liners . I would imagine the edge retention would be the same as my PM2 because they have the same steel CPM S30V. But the Chief seems sharper to me though . I carry both . The Chief cuts only food items and the PM2 cuts everything else . To tell the truth if I had done my research better and had known about it not having liners I would have went with the Military or the Manax XL
@@alcodie1558 The Manix line is very well designed. I wish I could love the Military, but I’ve read several stories of liner locks failing and cutting the user recently and it makes me avoidant of them. I’ve heard not all liner locks are equal, so some knives might not be as risky, but I don’t know what makes a difference in the lock mechanism’s quality. Lock backs, compression, ball bearing all seem much more reliable.
@@vgman94 I guess it all depends on what you're doing and how you do it . I think the main problem is when people do things with jack knives that would be better done with straight blades . I do like the chief . The blade shape is why I went for it . But I wouldn't try gouging with it , not with that needle nose . But as far as slicing its a champ . I think the toughest lock right now is from Cold Steel , the Dead Bolt . Only problem for me is I like my knife to be light and Cold Steel doesn't do light : )
I don’t think it’s the hole that makes them look meh it’s the fact they all look like birds and since birds eat spiders yeah that also throws me off. Having said that I have many many many spydercos lol 😂
I hear you on tip down it's dumb good way to get cut. And it's called a spyderco military and now they make a version that is like the pm2 it can carry all four ways but it's priced to high for me. I've had the original spyderco military and I hated the tip down carry it was ridiculous for spyderco to make it tip down carry.
It's definitely personal because I think all Spydercos are beautiful! (except for ones like the chef lmao). The moment I saw my first one I knew I needed one(and more haha)
Great review ! If you don’t mind me asking did you recently purchase the PM2 ? If so, what website did you order from. I’m trying to purchase one at the moment.
I agree with you about the tip. Made me nervous when I first started carrying it, although I've found through using it that it's actually very sturdy, you'd really have to misuse it to break it.
I've been trying to bring myself to want to buy a spyderco despite the fact that they look like a knife that should be sitting next to the register at a hardware shop for 9.99. I just can't wrap my head around a knife that costs over 150$ yet doesn't have thumb tab to open with as opposed to just a hole. It doesn't have assisted opening. The steel doesn't make it that price because you can find better looking knives with the same steel for cheaper. The grip looks literally as basic as you can get, from pictures it looks like the cheapest plastic you could find shaped into a handle. I think I'm just going to get a Byrd Cara Cara 2 and use it for a while and just know that a pm2 is supposedly a fair bit nicer because tolerances and screws tightened in a way that 98% of anyone that ever holds it will never notice and whatever other reason people have to justify the cost.
I do not know what knives you have been handling, but the Spyderco does not look or feel "cheap". The para 2 is not for everyone, but Spyderco definitely has a blade shape that you may like. The "spidey hole" is actually more comfortable than a thumbstud in my opinion as it opens up more deployment options and is easier on the fingers. Obviously you never handled one, so I suggest going to a knife store and playing with one. The so called plastic is G10, which is a very durable material. The second material they use are their FRN (fiberglass reinforced nylon) bidirectional scales. They offer some of the best traction on the market, and are very ergonomic. The Byrd Cara Cara has literally all of the things you complained about, a slightly more uncomfortable hole, an aged lockback system which is neigh impossible to close one handed, and blade steel comparable to AUS-8. If that is all you can afford, by all means go for it. For the price, not a bad knife. If you can though, I suggest buying Spyderco for superior handling and materials.
@Evgeny Belilovskiy it does look cheap. Plenty of people agree. From just looking at pictures they look like cheap plastic handles. I can see the hole being more comfortable but it is the absence of material as opposed to the inclusion of more material that I am talking about. More cost for less material. No I have never and the closest nice store that would have one is 4hrs away. I want the CC2 to get a basic feel of something made by them. If I am ok with it then I can know that going for an actual Spyderco would only be better. I don't care about the lock back system. The pm2 just moves the stop/unlock from the front to the back.
@@jrex3 I have not seen a single person complain about handles looking cheap. The ergonomics of said handles or even the feel of the material may not be for everyone, and that's fine, but this is literally how most G10 handles look like. The Byrd.knives are a good predictor of how Spyderco's feel. Good luck on your purchase.
The hole is objectively better than thumbstuds from a deployment standpoint, the downsides are worse aesthetics and a it results in a design that takes up a lot more pocket space.
We all have our preferences and I used to not like Spyderco until I handled a PM2 and there is just something nice about them something quality. And Im a Benchmade Black Series, Zero Tolerance, Hinderer, and Microtech owner. So no custom crazy stuff but Im definitely acquainted with quality knives.
I just picked up an all black S45VN PM2. Love it. Also, how's your novel going? I'm honestly interested in it. You said it's Sci-fi fantasy? Or science fantasy?
Thanks for the comment, and sorry for the delayed response. It's going very well! Editing is almost finished on it and I will be sending it to agents soon seeking representation. It is science fantasy, a few books that I could compare it to genre wise would be A Princess of Mars, The Fifth Season, even a bit Star Warsy lol
@@MattRoseKnives I highly doubt you can. First off your videos show a bunch of knives with almost no wear on them, so I would strongly suggest you don't act like you have really put them to the test because it's clear you haven't. I also have 4 people who agree with my comment. I have broken two benchmade omega springs just opening them. You want a knife with the same action but with a higher quality spring? Get a Spyderco manix 2.
The blade could be less wide if they would drop that enormous hole and use a thumb stud, and could be longer without that unneeded blade choil and lanyard hole. Good work as always. Best regards.
Stop right there as the pin take the brunt,....everytime you flick that blade out, the pin takes the brunt eversomore messing up the lock. It's a natural occurance when you flick the blade, it hits against the pin messing up the lockup. Everyone does it. And you wonder why you have blade play. Bang, bang, bang against the pin blade play is what you encounter. Man does anyone actually understand shit!
