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@sunshineandsprite
@sunshineandsprite 4 месяца назад
that first video seems biased :/ they kept on talking about mhj as though she was a victim of hybe when it seems like she was the one gaslighting everyone and breaking her contract??
@elizabethmunguia3876
@elizabethmunguia3876 4 месяца назад
That's because KOOKIELIT is known for spreading misinformation... When I tell you that- when I saw Jonathan opening a video from that channel, my instinctual reaction was to scream bloody murder. I had a visceral reaction to that. KOOKIELIT has been slandering kpop groups for YEARS. I wouldn't even doubt it if they are being paid to do a smear campaign 😅
@Jneutron_0102
@Jneutron_0102 4 месяца назад
Well yeah because her and her audience are biased, she’s not a reliable source and many armys don’t like her as she has posted false info in the past. MH is not a victim, the only victims are the groups that were dragged into this.
@princess4joonnjk
@princess4joonnjk 4 месяца назад
she sounds like a manipulator
@beautifulbrezzy
@beautifulbrezzy 4 месяца назад
I immediately said "Oh nahh" as soon as I saw that channel name pop up.
@usahanagirl
@usahanagirl 4 месяца назад
the second one is also biased? just towards the side you like more
@swawrzyniak75
@swawrzyniak75 4 месяца назад
I agree with others, kookielit is not a good source of anything that may go near BTS. MHJ has a history of being shady and extremely questionable in her choices and she has been turned into the police and is facing lawsuits already. Edited to add: additionally the first video just plain old has a ton of incorrect facts.
@grupochiolecca3564
@grupochiolecca3564 4 месяца назад
Hi Jonathan, please be careful with kookielit because that channel is very anti BTS and hybe, they've always been shady towards them.
@gidlehearts
@gidlehearts 4 месяца назад
Anti BTS is bad but why are you worried about hybe you Stan BTS not hybe
@loredell
@loredell 4 месяца назад
@@gidlehearts Bc if someone is anti-the company just bc it's BTS "company", they'll be biased reporting things about the company, lie about it and give out misinfo for others to be mantis (of BTS) or directly antis.
@kurihana30
@kurihana30 4 месяца назад
​@@gidleheartsyou have reading comprehension problems
@holgeriffland2280
@holgeriffland2280 4 месяца назад
@@gidlehearts Just use your head, if Hybe falls, BTS will be damaged too, not completely but still damaged. There are also other very good groups in Hybe. And I don't get involved in fan wars either, because it's usually the labels and the fan clubs running by the labels that cause trouble and not the groups themselves.
@Blueish_Blue
@Blueish_Blue 4 месяца назад
@@gidlehearts Because whether you like them or not, the information in the video is clearly biased and incorrect. Plus, Hybe is a company that BTS has stocks in and therefore misinformation and slander that affects the company also affects BTS. Not to mention, BTS gets the brunt of hate anytime something negative happens with Hybe. So misinformed videos like this ultimately affect BTS in the long run.
@solripoll683
@solripoll683 4 месяца назад
I'll just say that J-hope's tears at RunBTS proposing to Min Yoonji were more real than Min HeeJin's at the press conference.😅😂
@mamejoe2043
@mamejoe2043 4 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@kurihana30
@kurihana30 4 месяца назад
😂🤣🤣🤣 Literature student
@neringiukas
@neringiukas 4 месяца назад
17:32 she literally used "BTS sisters" to promote newjeans. And if she wanna to talk about plagiarism or copying let her explain Mexican girl group Jeans.
@kuroro9949
@kuroro9949 4 месяца назад
Let's not forget that BTS members made dance challenges with NJ members as well, which is a form of promotion
@memyoldie
@memyoldie 4 месяца назад
I don’t know why people believe a word mhj says when it’s been proven that she lies constantly (or tells half truths to paint a different story). Once someone proves themselves to be a liar, if you believe them you’re an idiot.
@nightfrost1891
@nightfrost1891 4 месяца назад
they hate bts so much, they'd believe anything
@YaGurlSunshine
@YaGurlSunshine 4 месяца назад
MHJ being so SHOCKED that she couldn’t own 100% of Ador despite not having been the one to put a single penny into developing or debuting the group REAKS of entitlement. Like girl, they have you nearly 12 million dollars to play with and you’re SHOCKED they want to make sure you’re not misusing it???
@samanthamay9779
@samanthamay9779 4 месяца назад
Nooooooo not Kookielit.. that's an anti channel 😳
@sserenity13
@sserenity13 4 месяца назад
Hybe has also recently found evidence linking Min heejin to a reporter that’s been behind writing these defamatory articles. She’s facing multiple criminal charges and possibly jail time.
@heatherg7666
@heatherg7666 4 месяца назад
Just to point out too, MHJ does not care about NewJeans members sadly, her texts about them were awful. She also sent 5800 texts to her shaman who she calls her dead sisters name.
@rkivelover
@rkivelover 4 месяца назад
wtf? that's so creepy
@raccoonchild
@raccoonchild 4 месяца назад
@@rkivelover MHJ attempted to hire someone picked specifically by the shaman to supposedly be the living vessel of her dead sister's soul so 'she' could assist her right by her side, but this person ended up accepting a different job. I don't know either.
@flip.2
@flip.2 4 месяца назад
Bts isnt even my fav group but i do respect their work seeing them being dogged like this is just gross
@sserenity13
@sserenity13 4 месяца назад
All it takes is a clear head and the ability to do your own research. And of course, a sense of humanity. So many people on twitter just eat up BTS defamation without question. It’s pathetic and honestly it’s getting really boring.
@Imme_begin
@Imme_begin 4 месяца назад
Thank you,
@Purple_Eclipse
@Purple_Eclipse 4 месяца назад
@@sserenity13 The only ones eating it up are antis.
@nj.7325
@nj.7325 4 месяца назад
Thanks as an army who was there the first time around with these accusations that means a lot
@sarahliles3306
@sarahliles3306 4 месяца назад
To answer some of your questions at the end, Min Hee-jin is a traitor. Hybe is not perfect, but Min Hee-jin is delusional. She already has her due and is just greedy to get more. She is the highest paid official at Hybe. She makes a higher salary than the current CEO of Hybe (side note: Bang PD is the Chairman of the Board, but he resigned his position as CEO so he could spend more time producing music.) Bang PD also let Min Hee-jin borrow money from him so she could purchase more shares of Ador, and she still owes him money for that loan, so she is trying to steal multiple things from Hybe--money, a label, and the girl group New Jeans. He bent over backwards to give her what she wanted, but she started making requests that he couldn't in good conscience fulfill. To give you an idea of how far she's gone, Ador's offices are located on the top floor of he Hybe building, above Big Hit and BTS. She deliberately chose to release New Jeans' music when RM had scheduled to release his new album to directly compete. She wants to defeat Hybe and BTS. But what is almost worse is she has brainwashed the New Jeans' girls and their parents into believing they need her to succeed, even after her text messages were released to the public where she called the members lazy and fat. She takes credit for all of their achievements and doesn't give credit to the girls, and I think some of the members are still minors.
@sarahliles3306
@sarahliles3306 4 месяца назад
Also, she took the New Jeans trainees from the label Source Music and transferred them to Ador, which means she left Source Music with a bunch of trainee debt, which her label does not have. There's a ton more that she's done that is very shady.
@ihniwiad
@ihniwiad 4 месяца назад
I think when you say "she's trying to get her due" it's because of that first video being your introduction. it's HIGHLY biased and inaccurate. Here's the shortest version I can think of: she cherry-picked the best trainees out of Source music (with them having trained them) so they took the financial hit to prepare them, took them, created Ador, did heavy media play to call NwJns BTSs little sisters, (two of them even appeared in one of their big English MVs), used heavy media play using BTSs name, and when you look at the chats and timings, the planning to do this started before Illit debuted, so they were most likely just a useful excuse (as you could see, she accused other groups of "copying" also). She planned to damage hybe to the point where either she could force them to buy her out to make it stop (with her getting tons of money) or making them vulnerable to takeover. Either way, she absolutely had been planning this for a while and was planning to use private info of artists to hurt them and HYBE... she is NOT a victim in any way, shape or form. ...oh and BSH loaned her a million dollars for her stake in the company to begin with.
@YaGurlSunshine
@YaGurlSunshine 4 месяца назад
Nah Tribe Leader, don’t change on this one, I would also question MHJ’s motives when she was “crying” at that conference, given there were no actual tears, she barely addressed any of the actual accusations against her, her lawyers were visibly face palming in the background, said bunch of shit that had been already debunked as absolutely false, claimed she was under a slave contract despite being paid more than the actual CEO and have been lent money by Bang PD himself to buy the shares in Adore that she had and she just rambled non-sensually about people copying her for two hours- which for the record, I don’t think is true even slightly and she’s been caught having plagiarised a bunch of the shit she’s claiming was her fresh new original never been done before ideas.
@SoggycereaI
@SoggycereaI 4 месяца назад
Exactly! The whole conference just felt... embarrassing.
@maryhduke2307
@maryhduke2307 4 месяца назад
There is a kdrMa where a pr person is telling the protagonist how to dress meekly, tKe tisdues to appear to cry, etc to gain public sympathy. Min Hee Jin playes this part to a T.
@bluehourtarot
@bluehourtarot 4 месяца назад
I think she had something on her face under her eyes. It’s shiny, but not in a tear streaked way, it’s more like she kept her eyes irritated and her skin has like Vicks or petroleum.
@YaGurlSunshine
@YaGurlSunshine 4 месяца назад
@@maryhduke2307 not surprising considering she was literally hired to do marketing and promotion, she’s literally a professional in how to spin things to the public
@YaGurlSunshine
@YaGurlSunshine 4 месяца назад
@@bluehourtarotwonder if the makeup artists she was caught embezzling from helped her
@iLoveThePurple
@iLoveThePurple 4 месяца назад
The thing is newjeans isn't even min heejin's original idea either, they've been accused of plagiarizing other groups with concrete proof. Nothing she's done was 100% original so she has no right to cry about copying. She also complained that other hybe groups should've asked HER for permission to be the ambassador of certain brands because newjeans had done it first when BTS members and others were ambassadors first, SHE should've been the one to ask for permission. She's just childish and entitled as hell. And that first video seemed very biased, they said Hybe didn't have evidence when they did in fact present all the evidence in court, they just didn't reveal it to the media. On the other hand, min heejin accused hybe to make this a 'public opinion war' when she was the one crying her ugly face off in a 2 hour long press conference lmao
@marissa1341
@marissa1341 4 месяца назад
They wouldn't provide all evidence at this point until the suits are through court, which has yet to happen. So far it's just been an injunction hearing. This isn't where Hybe produces all the evidence against her.
@alinacarrasquillo34
@alinacarrasquillo34 3 месяца назад
​@@marissa1341 Really? I thought injunction was basically a court case but if this isn't when the evidence is presented then there's still a chance.
@YaGurlSunshine
@YaGurlSunshine 4 месяца назад
Kookielit’s video was dodgy as shit by the way, they’re very much an anti of both BTS and Hybe, and was presenting blatantly false information throughout the video and also reframing things to make Hybe and Bang PD look as bad as possible. Like that video could hardly have been more sympathetic to MHJ’s nonsense if the was paid to do it
@YaGurlSunshine
@YaGurlSunshine 4 месяца назад
For the record, I still don’t think Illit copied New Jeans, but I think MHJ knew there would be enough superficial similarities even before their debut to make kpoppies believe her bullshit so she could cry out about mistreatment. Most kpop girl groups exist on a sliding scale from girl crush to cute in terms of concept, and with underage members in the group- does MHJ think debuting minors is her own original idea?- cute was the safe option. There are also other restrictions caused by them having girls who are still in high school in the group, including that they can’t dye their hair, so a more natural look makes sense styling wise (again not a copyrightable concept.) But the thing is, even if both groups use cute concepts, they both have very different interpretations of it. Illit has gone for a soft, girly vibe, while New Jeans from the beginning has had this tomboyish, athletic, confident vibes. They have the same concept in the way that Mamamoo and Blackpink have the same concept- technically both girl crush if you squint. The other similarity they have is literally caused by neither of the groups having any powerhouse vocalists or experienced rappers, so maybe if you don’t know shit about music or genre, you might thing they have a similar sound when in reality they just have a similar tone. They’re not even in the same genre, New Jean’s foundation is R&B and they’ve been going into different club styles with their newer releases, while Illit only has a couple of songs so far, they’re way more into house and synthpop then anything New Jeans has ever released. The comparisons between them is skin deep, but that’s enough to convince Kpoppies because so many of them have zero reading comprehension skills. I do wonder if Jonathan will do a “reacting to Illit because fuck Min Hee Hin” video, but honestly, I’m pretty sure they’re not his vibe and that’s perfectly okay. Edit for added note: Belift (aka the sub-label behind Illit) is now suing MHJ for defamation
@nfisking
@nfisking 4 месяца назад
yeah 😊
@alinacarrasquillo34
@alinacarrasquillo34 3 месяца назад
I don't know anything about music or genres but I didn't see any similarities between ILLIT and NewJeans. Honestly I think ILLIT does cute better, I don't mean this in a bad way.
@stormkive4356
@stormkive4356 4 месяца назад
whats crazy is stuff coming out more recently showing that min heejin likely plagiarized a buncha older groups (even a mexican group called jeans) to create new jeans so like LOL
@sarahliles3306
@sarahliles3306 4 месяца назад
Jonathan, as someone below already mentioned, the channel Seoulite TV provides better information about this issue, plus he's funny. The channel Asian Entertainment and Culture is excellent. She provides sources on her Patreon, and most of Patreon posts are free and not under a paywall. She only puts really sensitive information under a pay wall (that is still affordable). She wouldn't be able to post the sources on RU-vid due to copyright. However, she does provide her analysis and opinions of the sources on RU-vid.
@alwayspluto8413
@alwayspluto8413 4 месяца назад
Seoulite isn't any more balanced though, because more than providing fair updates about both sides, their stance is very clearly against MHJ. I think as much as we are all ARMY, it's also fair to say that both MHJ and the company have their faults, something Seoulite doesn't really cover.
@256sarah6
@256sarah6 4 месяца назад
​@@alwayspluto8413according to evidence releases so far,MHJ is guilty.All she has provided so far is texts of Bang and her and the rest is hear say.
@roguechevelle
@roguechevelle 3 месяца назад
Asian Entertainment and Culture is a very good channel, focuses more on facts and less about being "entertaining" so to speak as in trying to be funny although I find her very entertaining it's not the goal it's about getting informed.
@candicesmith-mackenzie6303
@candicesmith-mackenzie6303 4 месяца назад
Since this video, even more stuff has come out. She didn't want to give HYBE her company laptop and now we know why. They have recovered her Kakao messages. Not only did she talk with the Shaman, she thinks it is the spirit of her dead sister and she hired someone to work at Adore that the Shaman will soon posess?$&=&$ wtf? She has fat shamed her own girls and called them lazy. It is WILD what she hs said. We all know that anything you send is permanent. The channel Asian Entertainment & Culture does a great job of just breaking down the facts. The scheming by MJH is insane. And that isn't even including previous complaints about her.
@faithslayer500
@faithslayer500 4 месяца назад
The way my heart sank when you started watching the Kookielit video 😂 I can't speak to the content of the Kookielit videos on this topic, but I've noticed their thumbnails throughout the case have basically been mirroring the (paid) smear campaign headlines. Fake and nasty. I note the whole video you watched was told from the perspective of "MHJ claims xyz" with none of Hybe's statements included. You should get deeper in to this drama Loui, it's wild. A full narcissist in action!
@d.b.f.7495
@d.b.f.7495 3 месяца назад
My heart sank too
@memyoldie
@memyoldie 4 месяца назад
3:21 naaah, she’s always pulling the”I am just a woman” card. How many other women have started their own companies? Didn’t 2 BP members do that? Didn’t SM offer her her own label in that company? Plus she had all these people headhunting her as soon as they knew she quit. And she seems to have had no problems finding investors for Ador. She’s full of it. She was after BTS’ money and clout. She was able to use the “BTS’ little sister” to full potential by moving to Big Hit.
@em5522
@em5522 4 месяца назад
I hate how her actions are so regressive for women in the workplace. Career women already have it tough in SK, but you got women CEOs abusing their position publicly for inappropriately behavior towards the company's artists and providing support to the naysayers' stance on why there shouldn't be women in power. And this on top of SK last presidential impeachment being of a female president too.
@loredell
@loredell 4 месяца назад
I just got reminded of No Doubt I'm just a girl xD (sorry had to say it xD) Watch it be the inspiration for the next CB xDDDD
@kuroro9949
@kuroro9949 4 месяца назад
Didn't she use the fact that she worked on Layover as a defence as well? I thought she mentioned that
@pau8233
@pau8233 4 месяца назад
that lunatic needs to leave the company and keep it very cute and accept the consecuences of her acts, end of discussion, she is crazy and so greedy is embarrassing
@YaGurlSunshine
@YaGurlSunshine 4 месяца назад
Basically for the “BTS’s female fans would be jealous” comment, it’s basically known that some crazy obsessive fans are knowing to target female idols who dare to exist within the vicinity of their male idols, or get furious at the group if any of the members end up dating. Around the time this comment was made by Bang, an Exo member had revealed he was married and expecting a child- and his fans were burning his merchandise and calling it a betrayal to them. I don’t know if it was Bang PD’s soul reasoning though, because this lady CLEARLY wanted into Bighit, even though Hybe as it was being planned was going to be a multi-label system. His actions prevented her from getting anywhere near Bighit or our boys, made sure she had zero control over them, something I’m sure pissed her the fuck off.
@rkivelover
@rkivelover 4 месяца назад
The way Kookielit uses "BigHit" and "HYBE" interchangeably is also incorrect. BigHit is BTS and TXT's music label, which existed independently long prior to HYBE's creation. HYBE is the corporate company that was established by Bang PD in 2019, which controls several businesses and labels *including* BigHit, Source Music and ADOR. To suggest that BigHit and HYBE are one and the same is to a) exaggerate BigHit and BTS' power and influence in this situation, and b) place blame on BTS by extension. HYBE is controlled by a board of execs, and Bang PD is not the CEO but the Chairman and Founder. BigHit, also founded by Bang PD, operates independently of HYBE but is still under its influence to a certain degree. I don't know all the specifics but Kookielit is twisting the narrative by making "BTS' company" seem like the bad guys.
@ajimir2400
@ajimir2400 4 месяца назад
Also, as HYBE claimed, Min Hee Jin is already the highest paid executive in HYBE but she wants 20-30 times her stock option because according to her deputy, the investors will only invest in her group if she is able to raise New Jeans' worth into at least a trillion.
@mamejoe2043
@mamejoe2043 4 месяца назад
She is greedy now she has blocked all chances for women in Korea and around the world
@sam693691
@sam693691 4 месяца назад
The only girl group that was under Big Hit was disband due to some scandal, due to that BTS was forced to debut earlier than was prepared.. The first video is very shady and is in support of MHJ and painting PD Bang in a bad light..
@rafaelsmith5737
@rafaelsmith5737 4 месяца назад
Huh
@4EVERWITHBTS
@4EVERWITHBTS 3 месяца назад
“Aren’t happy with how the company treated New Jeans” New Jeans earned 3M in their first year They live in a mansion They have no trainee debt They get heavily promoted They have massive brand deals They’re on the 16th floor Where exactly is the mistreatment?
@alinacarrasquillo34
@alinacarrasquillo34 3 месяца назад
Ok I didn't know any of this but I didn't think they were mistreated before knowing all this. Also do happen to know why I don't see much interaction between NewJeans and other Hybe groups? I'm just wondering because I love seeing idols being friendly but don't see it much with NewJeans and Hybe groups.
@4EVERWITHBTS
@4EVERWITHBTS 3 месяца назад
@@alinacarrasquillo34 I honestly don’t know about that. I’m not sure why but it could be that they don’t interact as much bc of the case rn and bc the whole topic is quite sensitive. Don’t quote me on it, though, bc I’m not sure 😅
@Ana-id6uk
@Ana-id6uk 3 месяца назад
​@@alinacarrasquillo34 I am pretty sure HYBE said that MHJ made sure to keep NJ separate and had forbidden them to mention the company in general in one of their statements. All that being said, I had seen them interacting with various artists doing tiktoks and whatnot, so I don't think they were that isolated?
@alinacarrasquillo34
@alinacarrasquillo34 3 месяца назад
@@Ana-id6uk Oh ok thanks for answering.
@nikicaminori1243
@nikicaminori1243 4 месяца назад
kookielit? be careful sir
@volhan.p.9722
@volhan.p.9722 4 месяца назад
There's a channel with Asian Entertainment in it's name, who did amazing job in covering this case. O remember you to check it out. The most absurd thing with all this "copying" accusations against HYBE groups is that turns out, this is New Jeans who copied older groups music and choreography. Also, Min He-Jin keeps dragging New Jeans members and their parents into this mess and this will damage their careers so much, I'm not sure they could recover from this. And these girls are teenagers, so this should be the beginning of their careers. It's really sad.
@opheliase7473
@opheliase7473 4 месяца назад
Do not be fooled by this person. She is a committed liar and cannot be believed at allllll
@suebee0619
@suebee0619 4 месяца назад
The whole female fans would be jealous isn't wrong. It would be about proximity to the members. Female celebs have gotten attacked online simply for being in photos with the group or interacting with members. It's a really ugly part of kpop fandom (and some others). There's a sense of ownership that some of the fans have that is, quite frankly, horrific. You can see that on a different level with the reaction some have had to seeing pics of the guys smoking and with JK drinking on lives.
@nfisking
@nfisking 4 месяца назад
Yep. Definitely. It’s sensible for this to be a foreign concept for him since he’s only slowly allowing himself to get familiar with other aspects of Kpop, but never underestimate the toxicity of a Kpop fandom. It can be something different.. 😅
@suebee0619
@suebee0619 4 месяца назад
@@nfisking I really thought I had seen it all when it came to fandom craziness due to previous fandoms I’ve been in. Nothing could have prepared me for kpop fandoms.
@jm52hz
@jm52hz 4 месяца назад
i mean, you’re right about the whole “jealousy” thing in kpop overall, but i doubt that’s the sole reason for big hit music only debuting male groups. specially since now hybe is a thing. the company already has girl groups, many whom interact with bts, and big hit is still only accepting male trainees. also, imagine the age difference a new gg would have in relation to bts lol idols nowadays are also constantly interacting and filming tiktoks with groups from other companies too, but even if it was strictly about sharing the same workspace, there are ggs there already. even before the “new gg project”, gfriend and fromis_9 were technically already there at that point. so it makes no sense for that to be the only reason to not debut a gg under big hit. bang pd has mentioned how big hit works better with bgs (whatever that means) and having their only gg in history have such a big controversy probably weights in that decision too, but saying it’s just so armys don’t get jealous is crazy 😭 cuz they seriously went “he was reluctant to debut a gg, but when he “finally gave in” he told her it had to be under a different label bcs of “bts fangirls being jealous 😡” even tho all labels under hybe use the same building + txt is there too and would probably be closer in age to any new group they tried to make”
@wildlotus4339
@wildlotus4339 4 месяца назад
There is a petition from more than hundred of people asking to minister not just to investigate chart manipulation etc but also to withdraw the national cultural award from BTS. It is unbelieveable the level of jealousy and hate these people have harboured in their heart for years and apparently South Korean public side with them. South Korean public is hella wierd.
@ajimir2400
@ajimir2400 4 месяца назад
Bang Shih Yuk wanted to focus on producing so he stepped out as a CEO. He is still the Chairman tho.
@maryhduke2307
@maryhduke2307 4 месяца назад
As in Chairman of the Board of Hybe Corp.
@equalsgn
@equalsgn 4 месяца назад
as much as i don't like bang pd, that first video is super biased and left out a lot of information to show mhj as the victim in the situation.
@nfisking
@nfisking 4 месяца назад
same 😕
@forg_tful.
@forg_tful. 4 месяца назад
main takeaway for me from this situation is: i don't trust hybe officials a single bit, i think most of them are shady money hungry people who don't care about bts and bighit and what they built and most of them came in only after hybe was created anyway, to collect money. so they're not clean either. but damn min heejin is absolutely insane. firstly, the plagiarism claims - it's basically her saying there can only be one group of very young girls making rnb type music in korea with jumpy moves in their choreography, because that's newjeans style!!! what is she smoking? it's easy to see what she's trying to do there because your eyes see vague similarities, but when you sit down and think about it, it's as dumb as bts plagiarism accusations about school outfits and hair colours. it's nonsense. and they don't even do the same type of music, they just have childish girl voices so your brain connects the two dots. newjeans do mostly rnb and the y2k concept, illit just have a general cute concept and their music isn't really pure rnb like that. the main thing connecting them is they are both very young, and min heejin probably has an issue with that because that's her actual main selling point with newjeans, if you look at all her words in this fiasco. not to mention the fact newjeans and min heejin have their own plagiarism accusation looming, of them copying a mexican group called jeans. the photo evidence has funnily, coincidentally, now been removed from the korean forum where it came from, but the evidence looked more solid than the illit copying newjeans accusation from min heejin, ironically. secondly, min heejin's press conference was an absolute trainwreck in which she basically didn't manage to defend herself a single bit, just go on the attack by using the fact she's a woman and big 3 company kpop fans hate hybe and some crocodile tears to turn the situation in her favour. i've been following the situation from the start, followed the press conference live and i was flabbergasted by the fact it had that effect on the public considering how comical it was. she is evil, but she's also very smart. as she said in the messages leaked, she doesn't care about actually being correct, she only cares about how the headlines affect the general audience, who don't care enough to check the context or follow the situation thoroughly enough to see if the headline is correct. they only care that illit is accused of copying newjeans, not if it actually holds any water if you sit there and check. they only care that bts is accused of plagiarism, sajaegi, being in a cult and whatever else, they don't care to actually see if it's true or not and they will regurgitate that point for years to come. that's her strategy, and it's working for her. the only good thing is this thing has gone to court, and unless she managed to buy the court too, i hope this situation gets resolved swiftly and bts don't have to come back to this mess. in conclusion, bang pd screwed up by letting the snake in and giving her too much power and now both bts and he have to pay for it.
@erume5776
@erume5776 4 месяца назад
"i know overtaking control would be impossible yet i am meeting with investors regarding buying out ador" lol
@SoggycereaI
@SoggycereaI 4 месяца назад
Oh boy!!! Edit: Seeing you struggle with all the random kpop knowledge to understand the feud is just funny lol
@zee_silivalleygirl
@zee_silivalleygirl 4 месяца назад
34:00 "can I join??" 😭😭 Jonathan please
@taonga97bangtan
@taonga97bangtan 4 месяца назад
Aggressive rumors deserves aggressive support perfectly said by Boracity 💜💯
@suebee0619
@suebee0619 4 месяца назад
Yeah, no on MHJ. She's a manipulator and is not just doing things the wrong way, she was doing things the illegal way. Beyond that, she was sharing information about minors to outside parties, let alone all of the other confidential information she was sharing. I am not defending Hybe in any way - entertainment companies are shady by nature. I have so many issues with her, though, stemming back to her work with Shinee and through everything she's pulling now. She can drag Bang PD all she wants, I really don't care. It's all this other crap that I have a huge problem with. The one thing I will say is that all she's done is drop rumors and tried to sway public opinion - she never once addressed the very real legal issues she's been accused of. Bora barely scratched the surface of everything that is going on since she focused (understandably) on BTS. Also, it's a little rich for her to be accusing anyone of plagiarizing NJ considering they are an almost exact replica of a group from Mexico.
@eveyy_xo
@eveyy_xo 4 месяца назад
Hey Loui if you want to know more about this ador/MHJ/Hybe situation the channel Seoulite TV has a lot of videos about the situation
@alwayspluto8413
@alwayspluto8413 4 месяца назад
Seoulite is very biased against MHJ, and I say this as someone who doesn't support her. I think he's okay to watch if you've kind of made up your mind, but it's not exactly the place to go to for the 411 on the whole issue.
@eveyy_xo
@eveyy_xo 4 месяца назад
@@alwayspluto8413 I get what you mean but there really isn’t anyone who isn’t unbiased talking about the situation. Also at least he is presenting each sides statements in his videos
@stephjoy6944
@stephjoy6944 3 месяца назад
I agree. He is a trained reporter and even when he has a side, he clearly states what is his opinion, what are facts and explains the real legal issues. Not just gossipy stuff.
@neringiukas
@neringiukas 4 месяца назад
47:29 Always thinking how scandals in West makes artists even more popular but in SKorea its the end for them. Like member from girl group was accused of bullying & her activities were stoped & later she was kicked out of the group. And some times later it was revealed it was a lie. People just evil spreading bs to destroy others.
@nfisking
@nfisking 4 месяца назад
Garam never deserved that😢 Hope her future becomes full of fortune
@ja.net900
@ja.net900 4 месяца назад
She took a page out of any country drama/soap opera. My first watching it in real life, the movie is going to be crazy. Wonder who will play the shaman was that 68,000 text in 6 months to the shaman. Did she sleep? Lets continue supporting BTS Jin coming home soon.
@lealarsen2017
@lealarsen2017 4 месяца назад
dont worry Loui Hybe provided proof of mhj´s campain dating back to 2021 before she created NJ that she wanted the label for free so she could take it for herself after 3 years. there is tons of e-mails of her sceams witch basically proofed that all she said at the confrence was a lie.
@sam693691
@sam693691 4 месяца назад
MHJ join Big Hit/Hive to try and destroy BTS from the inside..
@sam693691
@sam693691 4 месяца назад
She fail it when she was at SM..
@neringiukas
@neringiukas 4 месяца назад
Hybe owns NewJeans songs, name etc, so if NewJeans breaks a contract they leaving with nothing + debt for breaching contract. Could be 5050 situation. But if Hybe lets NewJeans go..... Thats why mhj sayings hybe mistreats newjeans. Which how? By claiming Bang pd didn't say hello back in elevator, while in 2023 each member yearned 7milions. Me personally would give 0 fcks over boss not saying hi to me. But that's maybe just me. And you need to see dialogue revealed how mhj talks about the girls. Thats disturbing. She has also certain reputation about young girls too. Also when it all started before BTS becoming the target & shaman dialogue & Bang pd copying her with BTS, when Hybe revealed she needs to go, because of her project against Hybe & her revealing idols private information, inside label abuse etc, mhj came out with response these groups copy paste, ignoring serious accusation. Then that press came out & she was just blah blah, while her lawyers seemed done with her & tried to shush her. The whole mess seems like kdrama, where vilains just babling to sway people, while main character just sits & lets vilain put foot in theirs mouth. And then its main characters time to speak. While BTS got in the middle of that mess just because they build Hybe from near bankruptcy label.
@dominique3710
@dominique3710 4 месяца назад
I love Boracity! Lets continue to support BTS!
@rethakeana1943
@rethakeana1943 4 месяца назад
apparently shaman is common thing in South Korea. I know it seems unbeliveble but I watched a lot of Kdramas that have shaman in the storyline 😭
@kuroro9949
@kuroro9949 4 месяца назад
People who think the smear campaign against BTS (and other HYBE groups) and this whole thing with MHJ aren't related are just naive. It started right after she did her press conference and mentioned them. All that just a few months after all the members enlisted and right before Jin came back. In the middle of multiple releases from HYBE groups. She knew what she was doing - it was just a smoke screen for her and a way to harm HYBE and BTS She accuses everyone of copying her. And she even accused HYBE of "breaching her privacy" by showing some of her texts as proof when she did the same thing first with BSH *in the media*. I don't trust anything a hypocrite says. I don't care about HYBE but it doesn't take a genius to understand what she tried to do and failed miserably. Now she has to deal with the mess she created to save her neck
@YeyeMcCabe
@YeyeMcCabe 3 месяца назад
Hybe really fulfilled their promise and treated her better than a board member. The fallout is all on her
@nikki4noo
@nikki4noo 4 месяца назад
Adding to the others that the first video is taking all the comments mainly from the press conference and listing what she claimed there as fact. It is so obvious that this is all about the $$ for her and the kakao talks released of her speaking about other women and the the members of her own group are downright disgusting.
@edjung.97
@edjung.97 4 месяца назад
Oh no. not Kookielit :(
@erume5776
@erume5776 4 месяца назад
"they promised me!" is not the buisness deal she thinks it is. if ya have demands, put it in the contract
@Jimins_Minion
@Jimins_Minion 4 месяца назад
16:45 exactly! Whatever it is, she is an employee. She’s throwing a tantrum for not being spoiled - even when she was.
@lanzhanzin
@lanzhanzin 4 месяца назад
Mhj is a b
@patchtrivino
@patchtrivino 4 месяца назад
44:16 big hit is under hybe in an administrative way. But holds their creative decisions and other things. So the board of hybe can't decide about things so freely over big hit.. also the members have actions for big hit so they have power and a voice there
@lovelyy6491
@lovelyy6491 4 месяца назад
first of all, the public did not care in the slightest about a "Min Heejin girl group", the only real talk that was happening back then was people suspecting Sakura was joining a girl group under Hybe because Sakura is very famous and loved both in Korea and Japan
@sylviabondoc3870
@sylviabondoc3870 4 месяца назад
BTS is BTS and will never rely in the industry for their growth
@mich_mond
@mich_mond 4 месяца назад
OMG, I am hating so much how this Kookielit girl is making MHJ look like a poor victim, unbelievable 💀 Nobody copied her, she did not create anything from 0, she took inspiration from things that already exist, old things that were already bring out again before her, so she was not the want that bring it out again either. She's just a narcissist.
@Dominik_jester
@Dominik_jester 4 месяца назад
MHJ ruined NewJeans for me
@maryhduke2307
@maryhduke2307 4 месяца назад
That"free" concert cost $10 million
@neringiukas
@neringiukas 4 месяца назад
21:41 If honeslty this as well could be 4 different groups, the way kpop works. They follow the trend like zombie the brains.
@Garnishes
@Garnishes 4 месяца назад
Boracity doesn’t get it 100 accurate at times. BTS (especially explained by Taehyung in detail) said in documentaries (Beyond the star) they almost disbanded in 2018 because of breaking into new levels at a very quick overwhelming pace which led to the intense level of work without rest to the point they weren’t sure if this pace could be sustainable, not because of the rumours and smear campaigns (which already started from 2014-2015). Although i’m sure smear campaigns might have played a role (and i’m sure it’s emotionally draining and toiling on them) but according to what BTS themselves publicly shared, so far they have never said they considered disbandment in 2018 because of smear campaigns.
@Imme_begin
@Imme_begin 4 месяца назад
We don’t know every thing. Maybe she saw something you didn’t, or maybe you have seen every single thing BTS has ever done, I don’t know. It’s odd that with all that is going on, that is your focus.
@Garnishes
@Garnishes 4 месяца назад
@@Imme_begin it’s not my focus, i just don’t like inaccuracy being spread in general bc being loose with such things in a fandom can lead to problems. And yes it’s true we don’t know all that’s going on but i’m just going by what was publicly shared by them as the reason for considering disbandment. I even stated in my original comment it might’ve played a role however it was not stated by BTS themselves as the reason. In the same vein, no one should interpret or claim as fact something else that they did not share-> such mindset is a lot more problematic than just sticking to the publicly-shared facts BTS themselves have said. this is just a side note comment. back to the main issue of the video: yes attacks and rumours and smear campaigns are terrible. this side note comment takes nothing away from it.
@Sassyvibes06
@Sassyvibes06 3 месяца назад
It can be made mixture of both the pressure they feel and the accusations made against them, I feel like Bora mentioned only the accusations part because of the topic in the video there are a lot of moments when BTS members mentioned 2016 2017 were hard for them and how we armys tried so hard to protect them(RM mentions this in 2022 festa) Bora also showed the clip of Jimin addressing those legal battles they had go through, so in my opinion it make Sense. Idk about you, let me know.
@Garnishes
@Garnishes 3 месяца назад
@@Sassyvibes06 thanks for sharing your thoughts! yep I’m sure there are other reasons that we aren’t privy to, as with any complex decision - i did also mentioned in my original comment that it could’ve been one of the other factors apart from the primary reason. But while BTS did mention those moments were tough for them, they never mentioned it as the Main Reason for considering disbandment - whereas they have stated the main reason was what i mentioned above. Keyword Primary/Main reason. My issue is that Boracity said “BTS almost broke up because of smear campaigns” which insinuates it being the Main reason which is very misleading. actually, her statement gives the misperception it’s the only reason (which is worse) since she didn’t qualify it in her video. Whether or not the focus on the video is smear campaigns, she could’ve avoided saying BTS almost broke up because of smear campaigns but more accurately, to say that BTS have mentioned how much they have suffered etc because of smear campaigns (this is factual as we all know). For an influential channel with huge reach like hers, i think it’s important she’s accurate and careful with what she puts forth, especially since she’s so careful with qualifying her other statements. A lot of ARMYs, especially new / baby armys take her videos as a telling of facts. I absolutely love her channel, i just think it’s important to be responsible and stick to factuals when talking about BTS and their history. Some may ask “what’s the big deal? 😛 no harm done in this specific case” but we never know what future consequence a wrong perception could lead to 🤷🏻. Anyway, my focus is not on this specific example but on the general mindset of being sticking to publicly shared facts regarding BTS, rather than conjectures, because it’s the basis for everything. If they one day reveal more info, then we’ll add to it. Such mindset should guide us moving forth…:) My original comment was just an FYI for those who may not know what BTS has publicly said as their reason for disbanding. 😁 disclaimer: this is in no way a downplay of how horrible smear campaigns are and how much BTS suffered because of that. Smear campaigns are terrible for emotional and mental health and it should never be downplayed. omg this comment is getting too long… thanks for hearing me out and for sounding nice and open to conversation! 😊
@Sassyvibes06
@Sassyvibes06 3 месяца назад
@@Garnishes yes, Boracity usually spill facts, after reading your opinion I think she shouldn't have said the accusations was the main reason the boys wanted to disband, we armys who are here for a while know it's not accurate but for the baby armys they might run with because Boracity's videos usually are so accurate. Her videos are usually well explained.
@menohero_menovillian
@menohero_menovillian 4 месяца назад
Now that you’ve watched this vid, you should watch the mini moni vid where rm shared rpwp with Jimin. And then go through the rpwp lyrics again. If u thought rm was pissed the first time u reacted to it, this will give you more insight as to why he was so pissed. There’s another reaction channel that’s currently watching festa 2022, and hearing RM say how tired he was was so heartbreaking! 💔 You would think they’ve reached a level where they don’t have to deal with this bs anymore, but I guess the bigger you get, the bigger the bs u have to deal with. I hope the boys are ok 😢
@TheTwil1
@TheTwil1 4 месяца назад
Her plan from the get go was to start her own company
@bignugget673
@bignugget673 4 месяца назад
im not on mhj's side in how she's been accusing groups of plagiarism n the smear campaigns, but i do think theres nuance as to why she's being believed in Korea. its the feminist movement. she's the only female ceo in that building, and whether she's telling the truth or not about sexism, i understand why feminists might feel for her. as we see when we watch 'marry my husband', the culture in the workplace is very different over there. i also think that the shaman was taking advantage of her fragile mental state, which probably didnt help with her going off the rails. either way, im kind of worried about how things are gonna look when jin comes back :/
@Every.thing.istaken
@Every.thing.istaken 4 месяца назад
When u watch the busan concert u will see that they were saying f-you to the govt. And u're very valid for laughing at mhj for crying those crocodile tears. If someone genuinely starts crying in those situations, trust me, u'll know. Also I've never watched that 1st video but it felt kinda bull. They said they'd show both side but only showed one and used mhj text like they were a legitimate source but didn't mention the texts of her calling her own group's members names.
@Autumn_.leaves
@Autumn_.leaves 4 месяца назад
We also don't know why he said Armys would be jealous,since hybe have debuted these ggs Armys have shown biggest support than any other Fandom under hybe did, idk what he was thinking
@roguechevelle
@roguechevelle 3 месяца назад
likely because Bang Pd never said that, that is a rumor perpetuated by antis. They never discussed the reasoning on why and that channel is insanely anti BTS anything including their company. For all we know since MHJ lies like breathing it could've been her idea to come up with a label she could head and not be under Big Hit or Source Music as Hybe revealed in documents she had plans in 2021 to take the label away from Hybe using it to weaken them.
@princess4joonnjk
@princess4joonnjk 4 месяца назад
armys must have had a hard time, i felt so bad
@Naly7
@Naly7 4 месяца назад
LET BTS KNOW THAT WE ARE HERE, AND THAT WE KNOW THE TRUTH. 🗣📢💜
@monika95302
@monika95302 4 месяца назад
I jumped here right after stream ended 😂😂
@Bangtanlicious-ev3sn
@Bangtanlicious-ev3sn 4 месяца назад
Don't watch kookielit!! That's an anti BTS channel!!
@OnlyForThem13
@OnlyForThem13 4 месяца назад
Oh no, kookielit.
@victoriagonzaga6715
@victoriagonzaga6715 3 месяца назад
Im going to be honest the only reason I started to like New Jeans was because they were from HYBE and little sister’s to BTS. I know it’s delusional to think they all get along but 🤷🏼‍♀️now I kinda feel like they disrespected the hand that feeds them .
@sierra167
@sierra167 4 месяца назад
i feel like namjoon's album perfectly captures the expectations that have been set on them and how the public continuously shits on them no matter what they decide to do.
@fairiebri
@fairiebri 4 месяца назад
NEW TRIBE VIDEEEEEOOOOOO LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@BansheePurple
@BansheePurple 4 месяца назад
The way the South Korea media and the South Korean government treats BTS makes me sick. And what is wrong with the korean citizens?? But it's not that surprising taking in mind all the things that have happened before like the Tablo situation, and also considering the fact they are consuming all type of rumors, fake news and headlines downplaying BTS' success. A clear example of that is when Dynamite was nominated for a Grammy and they barely talked about it except when they lost. They truly don't deserve BTS and let's not talk about the endless discussion about BTS' military service and the Busan concert bc it makes me so mad. I personally don't think Min Heejin's message exposed about her public opinion plans for April and the massive smear campaign targeting BTS is just a coincidence. I don't think there're saints in that Hybe x Mhj battle, but Mhj is not 100% innocent or a victim of a "slave contract" and Njs being "mistreated". She already had a questionable history before joining Hybe and the way she keeps throwing idol's names as a shield to their accusations proves that she only cares for herself. I can't wait for the true to come out and that if she's involved in someway with the smear campaign, I can't wait for this sht to stop. Sadly the damage is done, but no matter what, one thing is for sure: BTS' artistic growth and popularity growth is organic and nothing will change history. What frustrastes me the most and makes me sad is the fact that all the BTS' members can't defend right now, they are serving South korea and despite all the money are recognition they have brought, their country is literally turning their backs at them. They are being ignored at home once again and it's so heartbreaking. We can't deny that these type of comments, news and articles don't affect them, they have spoken about it many times. So, it's essential for armys to aggressively support the guys and show some love. Let's reaussure the tannies that we believe them and that we are here for them. We will not give up and we will keep shutting haters mouths and fight against injustice just as Bangtan has done since the beginning of their careers. I hope this video motivates more armys to support harder every solo or BTS project. 💜 If part of that government decides to investigate BTS, then they should do the same to other companies as well because their groups and soloists are the ones who their numbers in sales, streams and people attending concerts don't match it all.
@NinaMarie7
@NinaMarie7 3 месяца назад
So much has happened since this video, when it is resolved i hope she makes another video. Mhj has been lying so so much amd doing sooooo much shady shit. That first vid was just regurgitating her arguments after she was caught by the audit. She even wanted to pay to release new jeans from ador so that ador would be an empty shell she could then have someone favorable to her buy so she could buy it away from hybe for herself. She is spreading rumors and damaging reputations of young members of other groups and imo is unsafe to keep at hybe...not to mention all of the illegal business shes doing.
@piixelll
@piixelll 4 месяца назад
the first video seems very biased lol. it only showed half the side. here's everything it missed (It'll be lengthy): mhj herself admitted in her press conference that the reason newjeans debut was delayed was because she transferred them from source music to ador, so the contracts and the launch of a new label, etc. took time, she didnt want to rush by overworking them so their debut was delayed and le sserafim debuted first the only reason mhj wanted to debut newjeans first was because of the bts title. She wanted to promote them as "bts' little sisters" "bts' label's first girl group" etc. She admitted this in her press conference mhj claimed she's under a slave contract which bounds her to hybe forever. but later hybe proved with evidence that she's not when hybe asked ador to give up company assets, mhj refused to give her laptop claiming its a breach of privacy (its not as its a company asset which is only supposed to be used for work), all the evidence hybe has found so far was from their raid on ador, vice president L's laptop and mhj's text messages. There's probably a lot more evidence on mhj's laptop mhj accused several groups of copying her including illit, riize, tws and bts. but right now newjeans is in the middle of plagiarism accusations as allegedly everything about them is copied from a mexican girl group "jeans" and a japanese girl group. Mhj claims its just inspiration, which is pretty hypocritical of her considering she's accusing several groups of plagiarism just bc of small similarities. mhj is a pedophile. she's been in MANY pedophile controversies before such as making minors do sexual concepts. Recently in her press conference she talked about how minji isnt as pretty anymore (she's 20) and was much prettier when she was a early teen. Mhj also made degrading comments about sakura and chaewon calling them too old (they're in early twenties) Mhj constantly uses feminism card saying people hate her bc she's a successful women, but she is a misogynist. recently text messages were revealed where mhj called women degrading slurs and talked about how much she hates women, she hates being a woman and hates working with women. She also made degrading comments towards newjeans saying they're a bunch of stupid kids who cant do anything by themselves and fatshamed them. Mhj admitted the text messages are her but she was just "joking" mhj claims the entire reason of this conflict is bc hybe didnt respond to her complaints about illit. Hybe proves with evidence that they did respond, but even if they didnt they have evidence that this whole thing was planned months before illit debuted hybe proves with evidence that mhj had a shaman who made major business decisions for her. (a shaman is like a religious ritual person in korea?, kind of like black magic) Mhj believes her dead sister is possessing the shaman, she even calls the shaman by her sister's name and has the shaman make major deicisons for her such as the company name etc. she has even kicked out many trainees just bc the shaman claimed they were posessed. Hybe reveals text messages where mhj is talking to her shaman about bts, mhj asks the shaman if she can send bts to the military, the shaman replies "ofc i'll send them, its not like they won a gold medal lol" to which mhj replies by laughing and says it'll be easier for her if bts goes away. Apparently there were rituals performed on bts to send them to military, she denied this and said she was just joking with the shaman hybe found the plan of everything on vice president L's laptop, the vp claimed it was just his personal thoughts and he was just using the laptop as a diary. hybe revealed text messages which proved mhj and vp L did meet with investors to take over ador hybe claimed that mhj was contacting bts' accountant, trying to make him lose trust in both hybe and bts and then join ador (he reported it to hybe) hybe claimed mhj abuses her employees, especially women. This was confirmed after multiple ador employees came up anonymously on forums and claimed they had been abused by mhj. mhj claims hybe is mistreating newjeans because 1. bang pd didnt greet newjeans back after they greeted him in the elevator 2. le sserafim debuted first. Thats it. (before the conflict bang pd explained in an interview that there's no reason for him to have close relations with all his artists, as when it comes to managing artists all labels under hybe operate seperately. In fact there are even artists under hybe who've never seen him. The only artists he's close with is bts and txt) mhj accuses belift lab (illit's label) of plagiarizing her bc illit has the same brand ambassadorships as newjeans, but belift never asked mhj for permission. Hybe argued that newjeans has the same ambassadorships as bts, yet mhj never asked bighit or bts for permission Hybe said its a taboo in their company to have their artists compare to senior hybe artists.Mhj accused hybe of breaking this taboo bc there articles published with the headline "illit surpassed newjeans" when illit broke newjeans' record. Hybe argued last year when newjeans broke a bts record, mhj kept begging them to publish articles with the headline "newjeans surpassed bts" they had to eventually agree and MANY articles were published with that headline newjeans and their parents are on mhj's side, they've filed petitions to have her stay at hybe. The public all agrees that the members are heavily groomed by mhj considering they make statements like "she's our mother, we cant do anything without her" etc. and continue to support her even after knowing how she talks about them behind their backs. Hybe was supposed to dismiss her as ceo over a board members meeting, but she filed an injuction to stop hybe excerising their voting rights. Today was the day, the court was in mhj's favor. They acknowledged all of hybe's evidence, they agreed the allegations against mhj were all true. But its not enough to dismiss her as ceo because the thing with taking over ador was only a plan, she hadn't taken action yet. meanwhile belift lab and source music have sued her for defamation and filed petitions. Pdogg (bts' producer), son seongdeuk (bts' choreographer and le sserafim's creative director) , and slow rabbit (bts and txt's producer) have all filed petitions too. while bighit was investigating and suing for the smear campaign against bts they revealed that through the investigation they've become almost sure its another popular label behind this smear campaign. they didnt name-drop but people speculate its SM because of min heejin, and this wont be sm's first time being behind a smear campaign against bts. sorry this was a bit lengthy 😅😅
@rkivelover
@rkivelover 4 месяца назад
I personally think that aside from some aspects of ILLIT, the plagiarism accusations are ridiculous. Surely MHJ was aware that by debuting a highly-anticipated group with a unique concept she would start a trend? That's just how the kpop industry works - groups follow trends, and with 5th gen it has been all about modernising 90s and 2000s aesthetics, with NewJeans at the helm. She has only catalysed the popularisation of a trend that already existed.
@saralafernando9243
@saralafernando9243 4 месяца назад
when it comes to BTS related videos pls don't watch kookielt channel. it's a kpop and drama channel and they don't have accurate info sometimes and provide "opinions" as facts sometimes. for example they said that BTS female fans were jealous of the idea that BH having a gg. they just made some BS up right there. majority of us didn't even knew that they were going to crate a gg in the first place. pls don't believe everything they say. and this MHJ and hybe drama is much more than what was instated in that video.
@shelley8293
@shelley8293 4 месяца назад
Agree about being careful with this source! Bang Si-hyuk has proven himself many times over to be trustworthy & sincere in his endeavours - despite all that is being said here! But that's just my view, no disrespect intended.
@Naly7
@Naly7 4 месяца назад
The fists video siding with MHJ 😂 making it seem as if she's a saint and Bang pd the only bad guy. Both of them did wrong, Bang pd was wrong for letting that SM snake in, that was a huge mistake. He gave her too much power, maybe he was in love with her cuz why tf would he give so much money, benefits, brand deals to someone who comes from SM, a rival company.
@carlaa2207
@carlaa2207 20 дней назад
MHJ was creative director from a label (SMEnt) that was always BTS competence so every single group that she ever produced no matter how successful they were it was always BTS who was shining around the world surppasing them. So she simply opted for leaving SM and accepting a job in HYBE since she wanted to pursue "her own growth" but honestly coming from her atitude being a narcisitic person a working so many years in a label that was always involved in ilegal stuff its not crazy to think she only planed out of it from the start. All evidence aside, she has always showed a desire to be a relevant and aclaimed producer since even when NJ havent even debuted she did a lot of interviews promoting the group but in a way that she was always taking the major credit. She just was suddenly putting herself here and there when honestly no other producer has ever done that. In the end she just wants to recreate the struggles BTS went through when they debuted meaning beung bullied by the industry and just gain simpathy for her group. She went as far as claiming that HYBE is just doing all this bcs theyre mysoginist and she and thw girls are being mistreated when in reality HYBE has been puting trust im her professinalism and granted her so many privileges thats too hard to believe she has been mistreated at all
@eileencritchley4630
@eileencritchley4630 3 месяца назад
It's so funny that she accused other 'groups' of copying her /NJ and that her 'concepts' were her 'Original Ideas' errm cough cough madam that's pot calling the kettle black ( eg you are calling out yourself) because it's been proven that not one of her idea's was 'her idea' in the first place once people started watching and listening we found out who she'd copied from the past one thing that really annoyed me is she used some music from an 80's British Group I like and are still active and have a huge fan base in Japan. She used hand dance moves from Bollywood Films and much much much more includes complete copies of of other past non kpop groups mv ideas. Oh and the long black hair it's very normal in young Kpop Girl Groups. I could go on and on about the fact nothing she did was original but it's seems in her mind at least that 'She can fully out copy and/or be influenced by past trends and groups' However no one else can use anything that might be a bit similar. What a hypocrite.
@goreyfantod5213
@goreyfantod5213 4 месяца назад
9:15 If she was crying, why were her cheeks dry? MHJ is a snakeu...🐍 29:21 A shaman is pretty much just anyone in a pagan (i.e. pre-Christian), belief system who's a seer/visionary - it's the person who can pass between our material reality & (depending on the specific spiritual tradition), the world of the dead/spirits/ancestors, the incorporeal realm, higher planes of dimensional existence, etc. Obeah, the Creole spiritual practice sometimes referred to as Voodoo/Voudun/Roots Work(ing) has shamans. In several First Nations spiritual traditions, the shaman is what we refer to as a, "Medicine Woman or Man," in English. Shamans & shamanic practices were demonized by the Christian church everywhere that European missionaries went in advance of colonization. The particular fear of Obeah/Voodoo/witchcraft/shamanic practice that descendants of African slaves have (esp. in the U.S. & Caribbean), is a direct result of the deliberate vilification of non-Christian spiritual practices. As a Haitian-American you are blessed, through Voudun, with a more undiluted connection to the beliefs & traditions of our African ancestors than just about any other part of the Diaspora, with the possible exception of some of the South American former slave colonies in Brazil, Suriname, Guyana, etc. In everyday practice, a lot of shamans perform relatively mundane, but vital duties: - Diagnosing & treating illnesses & afflictions of the mind, body & spirit. - Giving life advice, esp. to adolescents & young adults. - Scrying/fortune telling/divination, aka describing potential futures based on knowledge of the past, communication with the ancestors & keen observation of one's environment. This can be done for individuals, but was often centered around the clan group more broadly. - Counselling leaders on wise governance. - Seeking & communicating blessings & favour from the ancestors/gods, Great Sprit/etc. on behalf of births, the recently deceased, the injured & ill, successful hunts/crops/business ventures/etc. The last thing I'll say is this - I know that Christians don't like to hear this, but I always encourage Black folks to learn who, where & when our collective beliefs came from. Our enslaved ancestors were forced to renounce their own cultures; many forgot their traditional practices, while others taught their descendants to fear and hate them. In either case, doing so left a legacy of self-loathing & fear that we unquestioningly accept. Haitian culture, for a variety of reasons & despite how deeply Catholic it is, never drifted as far away from the old ways as many other slave cultures in other colonies did. As a student of history & Black history in particular, I know that Haitians have been punished & made an example of for 220 years, in retaliation for the Haitian Revolution. I believe that a deep connection to Obeah is one of the reasons that Haitians, unique among all Caribbean slaves, managed to foment a successful revolution.
@vpd2121
@vpd2121 4 месяца назад
loui pleease watch jujutsu kaisen! I've been watching it (till like s1 episode 8) and it's really interesting. It would be awesome to watch it along with you!
@Honeybee0613
@Honeybee0613 3 месяца назад
It might sound surprising to a lot of people but Shamanism is a 'practice' or religion that is alive and well in South Korea. It's actually not that uncommon for people to seek the services of a shaman to receive life advice, read fortune for relationships, the 'odds' of a marriage or even business. However, there's reports of over 40000 back and forth messages between MHJ and her shaman and that her shaman claims to be inhabited, or the living host, of MHJ's dead sister. MHJ actually refers to the shaman as 'unnie' (honorific for 'older sister') so... Yeah, MHJ is on a whoooole 'nother level there. By the way, the fact that she let the shaman tell her what to do for business decisions - including hiring a person (not because they were qualified or even needed, but so that this third person could be too host of the dead sister and be near MHJ all day every day) is a question for concern business-wise. Why would the shaman be privy to sensitive business information, and plant a third person in the company, you see the problem? So yeah. Shamanism is alive and well in SK and in this particular case, it creates another issue on top of everything else. The reports about the relationship between MHJ and her shaman are easy to find online if you want to look. Sean Lim - other YTer (Seoulite TV) explained it at length.
@eileencritchley4630
@eileencritchley4630 3 месяца назад
She's trying to get out her contract by using illegal means and even that person who went to HYBE realised he had to tell HYBE due to the conflict of interest and possible insider trading which is highly illegal.
@karlafm24
@karlafm24 3 месяца назад
I never wanted MHJ to join BH. That was a wrong move from BSH. A lot of Army didn’t want her since she's from SM and iykyk. She's probably behind all the smear campaigns from 2015-2018.
@sylviabondoc3870
@sylviabondoc3870 4 месяца назад
Some Koreans hate BTS and I was just perplexed when I've known this. They are really hateful towards them. They forgot that BTS helped Korean economy as well as tourism.
@maryhduke2307
@maryhduke2307 4 месяца назад
MHJ is a greedy corporate CEO that we can do without!
@heatherlyncleare1706
@heatherlyncleare1706 3 месяца назад
I would also caution against Kookliet. It took me time to learn the creators I want to listen to/watch. I wished I saw other Army’s warning before watching some of those channels early on as it would have shamed me time and frustration.
@goreyfantod5213
@goreyfantod5213 4 месяца назад
46:20 Just had to add this: Tablo is brilliant. Genius lyricist & just really, REALLY intelligent. Plus, he's been a friend & mentor to RM & Yoongi. He was on Suchwita; his group Epik High was a huge source of inspiration for both RM & Yoongi when they were younger & both men have credited an Epik High TV performance of the song, "Fly," for starting their dream of becoming rappers. Possibly this one [or very similar]: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AEdzLYKcYZY.html If you listen to, "Fly", try re-listening to BTS' "Interlude: Wings."
@kurihana30
@kurihana30 4 месяца назад
Besides the videos from that anti kokolit and the facts spilled video from boracity, I can't wait till you finalky watch Yet To Come in Busan!
@Zeel_BTS
@Zeel_BTS 4 месяца назад
Babe you were just saying ILLIT copied new jeans coz their hair and SCHOOL UNIFORM looked the same....
@YeyeMcCabe
@YeyeMcCabe 3 месяца назад
Watch Asian entertainment. She explains this well.
@elizabethmayau
@elizabethmayau 4 месяца назад
oh well. all the smear campaign, we survived it once and we will definitely survive this time too but stronger. i always believe what doesnt kill you will only make you stronger. ARMY are strong so are BTS.
@MG-ql6ru
@MG-ql6ru 3 месяца назад
People are mistaken about this fight between HYBE and Min Hee-jin, not between BTS and Min Hee-jin. In the first place, HYBE informed the world of the allegation of breach of trust, which could never be legally established, through media play. You don't know how many people in Korea end their lives because of media play, right? In order for breach of trust to be established, Min Hee-jin must sell her shares You can only sell shares with Hive's consent in the contract
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