WC3 - CC Masters - Q2 - Grand Final: [UD] Happy vs. TH000 [HU] 

Thank you so much for posting replays with commentaries!

Very VERY good commentary you explain the builds you show the last hit and denies good UI too Very nice man for real

Fantastic! Thank you Back2Warcraft!

Tavern earns tons of money on game 4

Best commentary! Really enjoyed it!

AGAIN! Those two will never end!!

Congrats bro

That 4th game tho.. my goodness.

Haha its so funny when u see comments like: TH should play like this or like that vs Happy. People who are WATCHING wc3 for few hours a week are talking how should TH play, maybe the best human player ever to play this game!

greatest games -_- ) thanks remo ) what a 3rd game crazy ) i ask HOW its possible )

1:23:25

"He's got the one tank with 6 armour, so he's pretty tanky" -Remo

The gyros need a buff like higher damage and armor...

It was actually not an over-extension into the human base. It was just multiple execution/micro mistakes stacked together. If you watch closely, Happy's two destroyers were ready to kill the arcane tower, but then he moved them to where the 2 water eles are, intention to devour, misses, then orders the destroyers back. That lost a ton of time, allowing the arcane tower to drain way too much mana. Had the destroyers, with mana, been more committed to kill the arcane, the DK would have more mana to save the Lich, and Happy can tp out while dealing massive damage. After the multiple combined screw ups in TH000's main, Happy was way too behind to come back.

That throw on AZ though... xD

It's no wonder Infi plays orc vs. UD as the matchup vs. HU is just ridiculously onesided. Some entertaining games though.

Crazy game 4

@back2warcraft ich kommentiere mal auf Deutsch damit die anderen nicht deutschen das nicht mitbekommen. Bei Minute 47:20 sagst du, dass jemand geklingelt hat und du kurz weg musst. Du hast aber ausversehen das falsche Mikrofon gemutet und man hört wie du „Wasser fließen lässt“ 😂😂 ich konnte einfach nicht mehr vor lachen und das ganze dann noch mit dem Satz „ der Typ hat einfach nicht aufgehört zu klingeln“ perfekt gemacht. Hahaha du bist der beste remo. Made my day

is there some backstory behind remo saying +4 intelligence?

they're superhuman

Go undead happy ur the Man U make us ud players proud!

What is the "right click" attack you are referring to. Is this related to animation canceling and improving attack rate? I heard you reference this "right click" a few times. Just curious if there is an exploit to be had here, haha.

hail our emperor

1:23:27 Bet he wasn't HAPPY about that

When people complain about Happy winning and call for nerf when he is one of only two prominent undead players.... Pls check tournament history and races..

第四局好看

When tanks lose, another angel gets his wings.

Nice hat!

1:35:52 "He must be dead!"

Wouldn't Clap (especially in combination with Blizzard) have been amazing for these games? So many Undead ground units. Edit: Also, can Breakers not steal Frost Armor and Magic Shield (from Banshees)? Otherwise, what's the point of making Breakers? :o

Imperator is undead!

Undead is just stupid af. 2 heroes take on entire team.

Happy gaegosu nice!!

Nice comments

15:42 lol

Happy is the ever best!

Happy looks like he had a very bad ping.

Undeads are OP

牛逼啊，UD1矿追着hum2矿打，还把hum压死了。

Lol 4 Auras for Undead on last match

UD 1 mistake in micro on high stake games and it's game over boi

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happy needs to sprea his "meat wagons" hahahahahhahahahaha ud like wouldnt u remo

1:50 TH is good...

TH000 seems to be too passive when playing with Happy

I guess the three best players in the world currently are 1. Lyn 2. Happy 3. Th000?

this mu is broken bs. the only way human can win is by ud making a giant mistake

Happy is by far and away the best player currently. Beating all races NE (Moon), OR (Grubby) and now HU (TH000) with ease.

Disclaimer: I'm not Human (I even was playing UD when I played). But this MU is fundamentally broken. The main issue is that you can't hard counter fiends. No matter what Human builds you can't fight the UD in open field. The reason is simple: UD-Aura. You will never be able to catch fiends with all the slow and speed that a UD with decent micro can provide. Imagine you are building mass Hyppos vs. WindRiders and even though the Orc doesn't build a single BatRider you lose every battle. That's the state of HU vs. UD. Knights simply get countered by the heroes of UD, Breakers don't have the damage and you don't have any option beside that to fight. The problem is that any army you can make as human is countered by UD-Heroes. If you go Rifle / Mortar you lose vs Coil / Nova / Impale. If you turtle with Knights you lose vs Coil / Nova / RoF. The other options are countered by UD-Units you have anyway in your composition. You make air - UD has fiends. You make casters - UD has Destros. UD can simply always go Fiends / Statues and just has to make small adjustments to secure the win. UD has a big strategic advantage above HU. And that also is the reason why UD's struggle with Orc. Orc has TC with a great catch and Raiders. (NE has Dryads at least.) HU has nothing beside Thunderbolt and Clap. With Orc you take out the speed advantage of UD which makes it impossible to play out the kiting game with which UD is wrecking HU.

How could anyone who watches this not see that UD is way OP vs HU

Isn't staff such a boring item? Just takes he micro away from the battle if you can just triple staff home your units then run away (having killed maybe three of your opponents units if you trade okay).

Strange to me that TH000 did the same thing pretty much every game. Happy punished it progressively more every game.

This matchup is so bad. Map 4, Happy lost almost everything in TH base even the TP, meanwhile TH has expo running and Happy is still in the game! How tf?!

Ouch, the meta is shitting the bed. I mean it is cool for now, a lot of multi tasking and organization, but with it being so one lane it is also a bit boring because human has no real options. You either survive until you get a critical tank mass, or you lose. I think the problem is with undead. Undeads standard tech and units are too good or mandatory to do anything else, so other races are forced to play around that one tactic, which leaves some races in a decent spot (nelf with dryads and fairy dragons) but humans in a very bad spot. Not sure how to balance that, but it needs some change up.

Dark ranger was useless at that stage. Should have gone crypt Lord. Human was all melee normal damage. The bugs could provide defense for fiends.

Something should really be done about the statues. On tier 2 undead has almost infinite mana and hp regen. This allows undeads to pressure for 10 mins straight without having to go back which is just ridiculous. The mana regen statues provide easily outperforms brilliance aura lvl 2... The mana pool of the statues should be significantly reduced.. either that or the mana cost...

There are two undeads in comp play and there are only 2 for a reason. The race isn’t as playable as happy and 120 make it look. They are just simply BETTER than ANY other undead players. It’s almost not really fair to the playerbase to judge undead meta and other races meta based off of happy and 120 games. No other race has literally 2 players that are simply 20x better than anyone else in their race. It is not stated enough how many game’s happy and 120 win a game that literally every single other undead player would lose.

commentator really fan of TH000 omg

this match up is such bs. only ud can pressure. human can do nothing but expo and limp along in the hope of surviving. 120 always beats infi. happy beats TH. 120 & happy are incredible players, but it is imba

I am so done with seeing undead win everything. Come the F on...