We Are in a Post-Climate Change World | Aaron Bastani Meets Gaia Vince 

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Scotland would welcome people as our birth rate is so low and our death rate high. We will not get control of our immigration without Scottish Independence. So we will need to get on with this first.

Unless We MAKE IT HAPPEN Jonathan. I can't emphasise that enough. The latest Berkley Earth shows UK not looking too good, along with the rest of Western EU which is now on a catastrophic path, and aready at 2.4 to as much as 2.9º above 1850 let alone 1750. The latter places some regions already over 3º.

That's what happens when it is in private hands. You can't vote out a water company

Remember listening to a XR-related podcast featuring Theresa May just after she was PM, and she spoke about her skiiing destination being noticeably effected by climate change from how it used to be, and that compelled her to put the policies in place she did before she ended her term. Sickeningly juvenile.

They are as natural as the air we breathe.

the conversation is proceeding in abstract high school science textbook terms that puts people to sleep and offers no real understanding of the real threats we face. "Drinking water is at risk" does not help us understand anything. "Can cause terrible damage to property and livelihoods" is just abstract mealy-mouthed empty words... The speaker really needs to learn how to connect with audiences.

"An amazing statistic... the number of people displaced..." Uh do you realize the word "displaced" has almost zero impact on understanding? I'm sorry but this is just more of the kind of media and writing and "education" that is totally zzzzzzzz and does nothing to actually create understanding.

Yeah, she's hovering about reality. It's so much optimism that it's scary

You're 100% correct. Additionally, I noticed that they repeatedly say 'climate change' instead of 'man-made climate change'. This is a very import distinction because we can and should correct our behavior towards the environment but we can't and probably shouldn't mess with mother nature. These two people are so busy trying to show off how charming they can be, that they forgot to be realistic and pragmatic.

@@ZenMountaindw it’s gonna come and affect you too, boo. You’ll be surprised 🎉🎉🎉🎉

People have always struggled for food, shelter, and family. If this is point, what point do you want it to make?

There will sadly be a lot more people struggling with these issues if we don't tackle climate change. It's also possible to talk about more than one issue at a time

​@@rhbrandon1at a certain points in time we have moved forward towards less struggle more production to the point where my mom worked at a violin shop could afford shelter food and to go out to a concert and a resteraunt thereby providing for somone to make a living playing music and running a resteraunt... those tokens of exchange called money flowed around and provided for many people in a community whereby their only struggle was to get out of bed and go to work. Now...things are moving in a different direction. Whereby thise tokens of exchange are hoarded by very few and also created and also the production going on isn't to make a sewing machine that I can buy and then move on and start creating a product I can sell ..but creating something which will break so I have to constantly be buying shit sewing machines from a factory in China where their lives and pay are not allowing them to go to a concert and I'm not able to go to a concert cos I have no extra money and so the musician isn't able to make a living etc etc. When one man can have more exchange tokens than the population of the planet there comes an issue of how can we ever exchange to that man to fulfill the amount of ious he holds while we need to use ious everyday to just survive. Of course there has always bene struggle but the struggle of a non civilised society is a very individual struggle whereby if youre lucky you might be born strong enough to tend your crops and hunt a deer and support thise less strong than you and fight some equal to you for control of resources. If it were physical strength its very equal in what men can achieve. If its money its very different. The money elon musk has is like if he was born 9 meters tall with lazers for eyes and knives fir hands. Very difficult to even as millions fight against such elites. And if youre busy grubbing for wheat which is being taken from you and can't even build because his foot is on your feild taking a rent from you to even grow your wheat then youre kind of fucked as far as progress or civilization. Sure we all struggle ....but actually we have built a civilization which supports us..if that is exploited and destroyed we will be again cowering in caves with a big stick and to most people on this planet thats not an acceptable thing to just throw away the advantages of civilization and just go back to being an animal grubbing for worms or something. Like you may not see a difference between a rat scratching in the muck and a society with art and music and culture but a lot of people actually value that.

Without the government fully financing child rearing it's not possible for working classes to continue reproducing.

The us military is apparently the biggest polluters.

I read somewhere the US military has a huge carbon footprint, like a country on its own..not ot mention all the pollution from mines , munitions and chemical dumps polluting soil and water tables . 🌍💚🌍

I'd add by saying the military, disproportionately US military, are the biggest polluters on earth when it comes to emissions alone.

@@mattliamjack3293 It is about the size of Portugal or Peru.

@@mattliamjack3293 And they're telling us not to fly?

All this nonsense is to concentrate the world's assets in fewr hands and to get rid of people. It would be okay if it was a matrix scenario where the machines were really running the show but it is not it is a bunch of over-privileged eugenicists. After almost a century and a half their dreams are coming true.

We just had our kids stay at home and have families. It's a bit crowded but we make due. Best part is I get to snuggles with the grandkids daily for 5 minutes then send them on their way. Good luck with your journey.

And it will only get worse. One of the many reasons why I chose to not have kids.

@@j85grim4 Things will get a lot worse quicker, if well-educated people stop having babies. Previous generations had it much worse economically and socially, yet they reproduced and kept the torch alive.

Can confirm. Having a kid made sense pre covid so we did, but we would never have had one in this post Covid age. The social contract has been shredded.

Well written. I totally agree.

Hope the billionaires achieve immortality soon so they can think more about the future.

We're as impotent as the dumb dinosaurs, just before the asteroid hit, but in slow motion.

Not rubbish but close. We must stop greed, stop breeding like rabbits and promote consensus politics for the benefit of all instead of being at each other’s throats, sacrificing our youth , all for the benefit of a few greedy thugs 😡

Economic growth can occur in many ways and does not have to be resource driiven.

Well put. ✌🏼

@@parrsnipps4495 excepting everything is cyclical. And farming gets more food from less land year in and year out. The only thing causing shortages is government corruption in poor countries.

@@liveleigh The farms will all be on fire just like everything else. Things are cyclical when things are going well, but fire has an exponential character. The more stuff burns, the hotter is the fire. As the fire gets hotter it burns even more and faster. Right now, things are heating up. The so-called experts want to pretend that the heat will go up in regular incrementations. Either they are lying, or they are just plain stupid, 'cause fire doesn't work that way.

I agree with everything you are saying. I think that every time big business says that it's too expensive to repair the environment (which seems true under our present behavior model) they are inadvertently telling us exactly what we must do in order to solve the problem of man-made climate change. We must create a new behavior model. I recommend this new behavior model: profit = protecting and enriching the environment, and sharing the sustenance that it provides for all of us. This new profit model says that profit equals the environment, and it also says that our only major expense is ignoring our obligation to care for and enrich the environment. The new profit model requires us to create millions of new jobs that will come under the heading "Caretakers of the Environment". Caretakers will have many specialized categories: 1. Collecting pollution that is already in the environment 2. Collecting pollution before it gets into the environment 3. Dealing with all of the waste in such ways that are good for the environment, and or good for the production of products. 4. Economically incentivizing families with two or fewer children 5. Designing new ways of producing products so that those products last for a long time and don't have to be replaced every two years. There will be many more types of Caretaker jobs. Every company and government will have Caretaker jobs, and everybody will be schooled, from elementary school through university about how to be caretakers of the environment. If we choose to continue living by our present erroneous profit model, then we are doomed because our present behavior model i.e. profit=income-expenses makes caring for the environment too expensive. It says that money equals profit, but this can't be true. Money is nothing more than a permission slip to get our real profit, namely the things we buy in order to live. It may already be too late to save our environment, but it is never too late to try.

But instead the people with the power to do something will only think short term as far as the next electoral cycle and roll back on current pledges due to cost. Inaction will cost significantly more of course but that's for another so-called leader to deal with.

We are the majority We have the power ! Change our greed to need and change the ability to reign over us through wealth .

The guest knows as much about climate science as my cat. Climate has always changed, our impact on it is minor.

@@terryo5672 the climate has changed gradually over significantly longer times periods than is happening currently, giving life time to adapt or go extinct. Human impact is accelerating these changes and once we cross certain tipping points, then climate collapse becomes inevitable. This doesn't mean that all life will end of course but mass extinctions, food insecurity, conflict over scarcer resources and mass migration will increase as more frequent and severe weather events become the norm. This is not some future prediction by the way, this is well underway and if you haven't noticed then I might respectfully suggest that you pay closer attention to global events.

@@kenevil23 you have clearly bought into the narrative. I am sorry to inform you that there is no evidence whatsoever of anything other than natural climate change. Please apply some critical thinking and if you are not a scientist, then try and read around or take advice from a range of independent technical sources. I have been on this planet for 6 decades and lived in several parts of the world and the weather has changed very little in that time.

Only if you have lost faith in your ability to thrive ,alongside your fellow human .Our system is unjust until l we decide to do it differently our debility to dominate over each other

Look to the East

Amen.

Not sure it's about immigration for boosting birth rates, but bringing in working age ppl to make up for children that were not born & raised.

Population collapse means economic collapse of the nation, with towns and cities depopulated, decline of infrastructure and institutions, many elderly and few working age, and even fewer children. It's not the end of the nation, but it is a painful and difficult shrinking of national capability and declining economy. Over generational timeframes, a stable population is necessary for a stable nation.

​@@naomieyles210yes but if the population shrinks it can grow again. This happens with all animals.

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Hilarious

Forgive my ignorance but I couldn't find AMOC on google,,, what is AMOC ?

It's the way we have been brought up .and the education system that promotes elitism and punishment .

*Après moi, le déluge.* -King Louis XV

It's simply the primacy of self preservation and survival. There is nothing selfish about that.

​@@paulheydarian1281 and obviously he was right. He' s gone and the great flood is coming soon. But evidentially nowadays you don't need to be a crazy french king to share this attitude.

Have u not realised they don’t want to sort things out for us yet. The govt are a bunch of crisis actors

Yup, we waste a LOT of resources, matl. & Labor for so much worthless, disposable crap.

When you tell people what they can and can't have, we are effectively in a fascist state.

Actually fascism tells you what you should have and not have through propaganda, much in the same way as corporate advertising does. Real choice comes from being conscious about what you are doing, rather than someone else telling you what to do.

You could argue though that certain sectors where we have major labour shortages would fall apart without immigration. of course this is a problem fundamentally of either not training enough people in those sectors or low retention rates because of the low pay and poor conditions. but if we are replacing the falling birth rates with migrants wouldnt we have had those same people regardless but as british nationals instead of foreign immigration.and you need in a service based economy more demand and productivity to increase growth.there is a direct correlation between increases in gdp and population growth. the main issue is redistribution of that wealth

You are correct except we have the demand and not the supply. An ever-decreasing birth rate and an increase in the non-working population are disastrous for the working classes and the middle classes. Same with housing. The fix is to tax the super-rich far more as they don't contribute nearly enough and have become richer than ever to the detriment of the rest of society.

So sick omg I nearly spat out my soy latte

​@@devincarter7434 use some up your back to knock some sense in yourself.

Stewart, this isn't a literature review of a story. This is your future and all life on the planet. Climate 101 never solved anything by itself. This is a roll our sleeves up think, organise and encourage Westminster to step aside moment. Corporate Westminster is killing us and everyone around the planet with the help of the US, EU, China, Russia, India and Brazil atm. Too much emotion is easily subverted to consumer spending on tosh and mush or wars. Getting emotional is ok provided it's focussed and concentrated on getting into a state we can move forward with common interest to survive and live healthy lives. Otherwise it looks as though we're very likely beyond our use by date

​@@devincarter7434😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

Good luck in your exams!

We went along with it, but let's remember that businesses used the lessons of propaganda and marketing learnt in WW2 to convince us (and to hide and cover up climate science since the 70s)

It's like if 37.5% of global population are desperate for migrating up to the North honestly even if you were to indiscriminately commit genocide it wouldn't change anything. It really will be one of the first mass migrations in modern history

In 1958, of that 3 billion, 2 billion were consuming hardly anything. TLDR: it's all China's fault for not keeping all their people desperately poor. Next: we blame India or Africa. Just don't look at SEA where I live, where we have already added 10x Britain's population to the world's load of consumers.

I would also be really wary of anyone pushing a “crisis” and trying to lower carbon as the culprit. HUMANS are the carbon global elites seek to reduce. There are too many of us. The “solutions” they propose will lead to complete disaster. None of them are implementable at this scale. Expect mass starvation, death by freezing with no heat and no way to travel. Expect none of these things to affect global elites in the slightest.

When it was 50 million in UK near all belonged to Britain today not so English not spoken in Blackpool its Polish only . So many Asians and blacks .Today Latvians 160000 of them live in Britain .Climate change is natures plan for protection. Man has nothing to do with it. Look at history when 1660 the Thames river froze over 20 feet deep . Bonfires and roast chestnuts sold on ice as people ice skated . 1700 it was so hot in summer people died of heat .It never ends .Britain is headed into an ice age again with lack of gulf stream and natures way .We cannot destroy earth we have tried with atom bombs wars and such .Nature is the changer of all things

I hope this comment is enthusiastic and clever. Our behavior towards the environment is guided by this behavior model: profit = income - expense. This behavior model says that profit equals money. In truth money is only a permission slip to get our actual profit. It also says that everything else is nothing more than expenses. This is why it is too expensive to repair our environment; additionally, companies must fire as many people as possible in order to keep labor costs as low as possible in order to maximize profit. No wonder there is so much homelessness and the planet is on fire. I recommend this new behavior model: profit = protecting and enriching the environment, and sharing the sustenance that it provides for all of us. This new profit model says that profit equals the environment, and it also says that our only major expense is ignoring our obligation to care for and enrich the environment. The new profit model requires us to create millions of new jobs that will come under the heading "Caretakers of the Environment". Caretakers will have many specialized categories: 1. Collecting pollution that is already in the environment 2. Collecting pollution before it gets into the environment 3. Dealing with all of the waste in such ways that are good for the environment, and or good for the production of products. 4. Economically incentivizing families with two or fewer children 5. Designing new ways of producing products so that those products last for a long time and don't have to be replaced every two years. There will be many more types of Caretaker jobs. Every company and government will have Caretaker jobs, and everybody will be schooled, from elementary school through university about how to be caretakers of the environment. If we choose to continue living by our present erroneous profit model, then we are doomed. It may already be too late to save our environment, but it is never too late to try.

Like we did in the 1918 flu pandemics? The plagues that wiped out swathes of Europe in recent centuries? We’ve never experienced fed anything like the global warming issue and you only have to look at the existing hate and spite towards immigrants to see that your comment is pretty superficial when compared to reality, given the mass movement of people that’s likely moving forward.

@@dombrandon3018 Evolution is all about adapting rather than mitigating. And adapting doesn't have to be 'nice' it just 'is' so it isn't superficial to say we adapt better than we mitigate - it's part of our DNA. Like all living things - adaption is fundamental to survival, not mitigation. Those people migrating? That's them adapting, so my comment is actually acknowledging that reality - we adapt better than we mitigate. We've had our chance to do the latter and we've failed so... now we adapt.

@@Rich_H_1972I don't agree nor disagree with your arguments, I just want to point out that evolution happens over really long periods of time. The pace at which global warming is moving there will be nowhere to hide.

@@Fluffyfeathrrr Totally agree with you; nowhere to hide, it will be messy and lots of people will likely die. There will be wars, etc caused by it too. We will adapt though, we always do - whether that ends civilisation as we know it, remains to be seen, but we will adapt to new (and worse or better) ways of life.

... until it doesn't.

Knockers

That's not what they said. Kinda the opposite. The world's gonna change, and the entirety of human civilization is gonna move north ward. Gaia is emphasizing - that this large scale human migration is inevitable - it actually provides a great economic opportunity (if only humanity doesn't succumb to ethno nationalism)

Vaccines

@@xGeorgeMee That; foods and predatory capitalism which Aaron Bastardi endorses cuz having sold out to the same institutions of greed as the WEF's Agenda contributor, Gaia Vince, he wants to convince leftists to embrace its brutality by dressing up this stakeholder capitalist nirvana in Marxist/"communist" terms: a stateless, moneyless and classless society bathed in leisure and luxury. Fake af "leftists" are just fake.

They will likely eat us.

@sudenims5235if a system denies you access to the basic things such as housing/option to raise a family,sense of community/shared identity, honesty/transparency of it political/ruling class then what is point in working for that acting as if it’s 100% moral failing on the part of the young makes you part of the problem..

What a completely ignorant thing to say. You have no idea what the next generation is capable of. Sure it’s easy to see how so many of today’s kids are troubled, is that any surprise given the state of the world they have had to inherit? But to holistically write off the entire generation and to label them as “entitled” is a horrible generalisation. They won’t live the same lives as their parents and grandparents because their parents and grandparents have left a shell of a world for them to inherit but I believe that humanity will eventually prevail, and sure there will be hard times they will have to live through, far more than previous generations post-ww2 but they will adapt. You think the greatest generation were born that way?

That's because there is no climate change its global warming and that's natural

But it does. I've seen or read about that multiple places over the years. Literally, go to your favorite search engine and search for something like energy consumption and deep learning and you'll likely find articles about its problems and attempts at mitigating those problems. (I know you wrote "robots", but I ventured to guess you didn't use this word in a narrow sense).

@WhoisTheOtherVindAzz but they are pushing ahead building robotsdespite on the over hand telling us we desperately need to not use energy or even eat most foods its so desperate cows have to no longer exist its that desperate

120 million by the year 2100.

It's a global issue. Currently, fossil fuel subsidies are $7 trillion. Astonishingly UP $2 trillion from 2020! Our politicians are not working for us, they are working for big corporations.

If it's too late in your lifetime, it's already too late, man is helpless in this situation

The human species has experience much greater climate change. Then could ever happen now.. It's ironic that she is not more familiar. With that

@@davidwestwater2219 Yes but why shoot yourself? This is human-caused climate change and is completely avoidable....

We are currently on track for a 4.8 degree Celsius temperature rise by 2100. 3 degrees Celsius is enough to cause mass extinction including humans.

I think billions will die

Billions already have died. Humans aren’t the only ones that matter. We don’t really contribute all that much to the planet. We take and destroy.

2300!? 😂 like i told a student of mine, tell me what the world is going to look like in 2035..not 2050. I think it’s silly to try and project beyond a decade or so with how fast things are moving. I honestly don’t even think we’re going to make it beyond this century. People have this idea that we aren’t gonna start to really feel the effects of climate change until like 2100 or whatever. I’ve got news for you, this is coming waaay faster than that.

You are panicking over unreliable data produced by unreliable computer modelling and making ridiculous predictions. Calm down!

My fear is that there will be immigration, accompanied by progressive policy facilitating our replacement.

​@@dhj1182I mean maybe get on with times then? Don't regress and you'd be irreplaceable! ;)

A load of left wing rubbish.

​@sha29i they're calling for jihad in London. But sure... I guess they're all chill....

@@dhj1182 This is a very stupid conclusion. Britain won't bear the brunt of it even because of it's small landmass. We're seeing heavy population in barely populated Scandinavia, Greenland, Northern Canada, Alaska, Siberia etc etc If there is a country which'll bear the brunt of it it'll probably be Russia/China given so many vast swathes of lands are unpopulated

Ouch! Thanks for the eyewitness account. 50% of coral gone since the 1950s.

Yeah it's hard to see the way of avoiding that. All this adaptation stuff which presumes you can move 3 billion people in 4 decades while also dealing with a collapsing food system is completely and utterly delusional.

I agree nothing will happen. Established powers need to get onboard with it , ie they need to find a way to invest or make money from green initiatives and switch to that over fossil fuels! It wont happen until we have that shift but it needs to happen now and it won’t. Also i mean real green initiatives and not the ones marketed to us- electric cars, biomass fuel, certain solar energies- all not green at all. The amount electric cars is pushed alarms me. Also get away from endless consumerism. Move economy back to where we get white good and TVs repaired. Not replacing everything over and over

Nothing will change with our current systems. We need a truly representative system of governance. Everyone should look into liquid democracy and figure out how we can implement versions of it. (I would write more, but I tend to get censored when I do: but my shorter, silly and even rude comments get to stay).

Agreed. If we could convince people that accumulating obscene wealth that you cannot possibly use is disgusting, we might stand a chance. Eat the rich.

@@michaelrchwe still need to do adaptation because the change has already started. We also need to get mitigation in place to stop it getting worse via the path we’re on. We need both and we have to move people away from suggested it is can be solely one or the other.

Little mermaid?

Aquaman?

I have. There are vids about The East Coast

"The great barrier reef is growing back, so i dont understand?" Globally, 50% of the world's coral has been lost since the 1950s. The GBR "rebound" is one of those examples of people being misled by misleading statistics and terminology. Vast swaths of very large, decades-olds, more biodiverse, more resilient-to-storms, and more-resilient to Crown-of-Thorns coral were killed off due to repeated mass bleaching events made more likely/inevitable and more intense due to man-made global warming. Then, like crabgrass quickly filling in your lawn after you fail to take care of it in late summer, very small, young, less biodiverse, less resilient-to-storms, and less-resilient to Crown-of-Thorns species of coral filled in those areas. This less biodiverse GBR also has fewer "ecosystem benefits" for marine life and even less benefits for tourism (I don't know about you, but I'd rather look at tall biodiverse forests of corals while snorkeling/scuba diving rather than a shallow mat of the same species). So unfortunately, even that supposed success story is a big step backwards for the Great Barrier Reef and marine life.

Heat tolerant species grew back proilfically as less heat tolerant species died off. All species have a limit. It's only time that will reveal the true state of the reefs globally.

Half the global coral had been lost since the 1950s, and that was before massive coral bleaching in the Caribbean this past summer. Next, as the other poster noted, "coral cover" can be incredibly misleading. What the recent mass bleaching events on the GBR have done is killed off massive, decades-old and more biodiverse corals and replaced them with a blanket of tiny corals of a species that is less resistant to storms, to future bleaching events, and to Crown of Thorns--and has significantly reduced the "ecosystem services" the reef can offer to other species. So, don't be misled by misleadingly narrow statistics: The GBR has taken multiple massive steps backwards through these mass bleaching events. Interestingly, the term "sea ice cover" can also be very misleading because a square mile of ocean is counted as having "sea ice cover" if it is 100% covered with a solid slab of ice 6 feet thick but it is also counted as having "sea ice cover" if it is 84% open water and only has 16% of it covered with foot-thick slushy ice.

Heat tolerant Acropora corals filled the gaps of less tolerant species. All species have a limit. Short term gains do not project a positive future.

Yep.

Exactly, electric cars are such a scam. Just like our common misconception that we have been recycling most of our plastic last 20 years. We need to destroy capitalism, that has led the world for the last 4-5 centuries, while at the same time dealing with more people then ever before, while industrial food production goes down.. And emergency wheather events happen every other day.. Billions dead, capitalism dead, but maybe one, two billion to survive in still technologically advanced society would be best we could hope.. But most important is talking time scales.. They still talk like this might happen in 100-200 years while talking about a book called post climate change. Now I understand the levity, they are both parents, ofcourse they need to think in positive ways.. This is one of two reasons why I will probably not reproduce. It would be too cruel.

Also because Japan does not allow dual citizenship, and they would be required to renounce their Western nationality.

No but theres one new coal mine.

Sounds absolutely horrifying. Thankfully you will soon be blessed with 30 million climate refugees.

I actually think that Britain, having already to a certain degree a national identity that is culture-based and not heritage based, will have it a bit easier than nation-states like Hungary, where the national identity is still quite strongly linked to a person's ethnicity.

Yes. We will teach the young how not to do socialism.

Old people lose muscle mass, energy, and cognitive function from about age 40 onward. That’s why you need young people to care for them at a certain age. Her point is not that the population needs to grow, but that the demographics need to be properly balanced to have a functioning society.

​​@@TheGkmastanot against migration in any way, but can we have continuous migration to balance demographics? Also I need to read more about this idea because I can think of more than one problem with it. It is not making sense to me... (Separately, you need to raise the age of loss of cognition loss in strength etc, 40 is not that age!)

@@TheGkmasta I'm 51 and need a young female to help me bathe. Also need assistance with getting into my bed. I mean, getting me into bed... Any applicant under 30 will be directed to my assistant. He's also a 51 yrold male with the same needs as me. By sheer coincidence, he also shares my name....

@@user-qq3ym6qn2q Not sure if migration would work in perpetuity, but probably until civilization collapses anyway due to climate change. All of those things START around age 40 and continue to decline at varying rates depending on one's physical and mental activity.

Like now!

Those recessions were not debt loaded. People just couldn’t afford new things. Now people can’t afford money they have already used, this is the problem.

1C+ guarantees global collapse. We can see this clearly now. At 3C it's an extinction game for sure.

Panic is the worst you can possibly do when solving problems.

The massive flaw in the book, which I otherwise enjoyed, was the ridiculous floating of cryptocurrency as a vehicle for the carbon credits. He completely ignored the fact that power consumption of crypto gets progressively worse as more people try to use it, rendering it worse for the planet than regular money. The whole device just threw me out of the narrative.

In the book it was clear that carbon coin shouldn’t be confused with a crypto. Especially to Bitcoin. The main point was to get the backing of central banks to maintain the price. The result would be a derisked investment.

People in the 60's we're absolutely convinced that a world population far below what it is now would have mass starvation, and people would be in dire straits, yeah, it's better than it ever has been. Don't listen to the doomsayers.

it's gonna be nasty. expect rising prices of food, rations, if we're lucky, bread lines.

​@@soggharthadoom and gloom 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡

There is no crisis ffs

@@RevGary "There is no asteroid coming!", the dinosaur said.

@@cryoraptora303tm2 did you dream that up son? Another human theory that wasn't observed or tested hence isn't scientific merely a belief system 🤣

Yes, the climate has often changed in Earth's past, but natural climate change is 10 times slower to 1000 times slower than this. We are currently warming the planet ~18 times faster than it usually warms when coming out of an ice age. Such rapid changes in global CO2 levels and temps, if sustained, will cause mass extinctions of life. That's just how nature works.

Oh so it's all good then, Thanks 👍

The vast majority of the world literally has all information in their pocket at all times. The widespread availability of the Internet most certainly has not made people smarter on average.

How about you just state your position?

They're Bought and paid for.

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@AaronBrown-rr6yu yes I do, I looked them up a few years ago, all such organizations stipulated where their funding was coming from (I'm not sure if the info is still so easy to find, now that so much is suppressed and altered). It's probably still easily found if you look.

She's working with the basis that climate change is a new thing .Mankind is adaptable She's making it sound so fragile but we've been higher carbon before .The internet has accelerated the drama of weather .Predictions have so far since the 19th century been wrong .

​@@fdonald7580 No, most of what predicted is happening. And didn't you get the part that CO² is highest ever since modern humans came about, much less since the development of civilizations.

Well, she is analyzing CC effects specifically, so yes, every thing she mentions will of course be re. CC.