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We deserve better than Overwatch 2. 

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I think it is fair to say that original fans of Overwatch may not be pleased with the latest installment. In this video, I talk about my issues with Overwatch 2. I cover my impressions of Overwatch's monetization, its meta, and its future.
Let me know what you think on the comments, I'd like to hear what you think!
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@chuckieboi7950
@chuckieboi7950 2 года назад
I strongly agree, I dont have the same passion for the game, I personally play it competitively, but i used to play it casually, but only swapped when it got painful to play for fun. I miss overwatch 1.0. I cant see this game staying alive for too long, and it deeply saddens me. despite blizzard basically trying to kill the game, it has survived, and prevailed. I just hope it doesnt become the next tf2, where people look back on it fondly, but will never really play it again. I love overwatch, i have 1200 hours in the game, but I dont enjoy it. I play for the rank, the sr increase or decrease, i play for honing my skills and mastering the craft on clicking heads, and i dont think anyone can really play for fun anymore, you cant get that feeling of rolling out of spawn with 6 roadhogs, and just spam hooking everyone on the other team, where the other team played a real comp and were playing legit, now we only have no limits, and everyone plays goofy there. This is something that needs to be talked about more, the game isnt fun, people only sink massive hours into the game if they play competitively, or stream, nothing else. and its sad, i wish I played because i had massive amounts of fun with friends, but my friends stopped having fun and playing when it got sweaty, but i stayed... the lonely kid, trying to have fun in this game... I have played alone for over a year, and only recently started adding other people, but only as comp duo's. my irl friends have returned, but will be leaving nearly instantly, i can feel it. they are gonna experience these fun new things, but overwatch has nothing to keep them playing as i have, so they will once again leave, and leave me empty. I will probably quit soon, move onto another game, despite having so many good memories, none of them are recent, all from 2018 or earlier. you make a good point, i agree fully. thanks for reading my little monologue. I miss overwatch 1.0 they should have reverted everything they did instead of making overwatch 2 clean slate maybe given it to another company, so they dont mismanage it. thats a bit extreme but i wish they made the game for the fun players, sweaty nerds second thats all see ya
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
I appreciate you bro - I'm glad you took the time to hear me out and put your thoughts down. I hope we can revive the OG Overwatch feel one day, or in a new game. I didn't just read your reply, I pinned it!
@chuckieboi7950
@chuckieboi7950 2 года назад
woo! I feel like Blizzard should make an arcade mode, thats an optional download, where you have ow 1 graphics, map pool, rules, heroes, etc. it would be fun, you could look back on the good ol' days and mess around with old glitches. Thats one idea of a way to add in that old overwatch nostalgia, and maybe get a few more players. I really do miss early overwatch, 8 second genji blades, mass rez, the old kill feed, the goofy 6 winston matches. they should probably pay homage in some way to that old game. 1 last note Early overwatch had the strongest roots of any game. fun heroes, good maps, strong playerbase, respected company (at the time) that made the best content. but blizzard failed to continue building. you dont see a skyscraper with wood for floor 2. so why should overwatch soar to the skies as a skyscraper does? If blizzard put in the work we could have had an extravagant building, best in the world, tourists come from all corners to just see it but instead we got a 4 story office building, only used to pickpocket money off of the people that show up day after day. its a shame really.
@Jontohil2
@Jontohil2 2 года назад
Dude, I’d respectfully disagree with the TF2 bit, since for a lot of people it’s a game that keeps dragging them back in despite the state it’s been in in recent years. But I 100% agree with the casuals thing. I think the casual nature of TF2 pubs is what keeps dragging people in, especially people like myself who years ago thought I was done with the game. Video games are meant to be fun man, and this forced competitive stuff and the removal of dumb stupid video game stuff just sucks it all out. I feel sorry for casual Overwatch players, or just the players in general for OW1 being shut down.
@chuckieboi7950
@chuckieboi7950 2 года назад
@@Jontohil2 I agree that TF2 isnt fully dead, theres still a thriving fanbase, I just used it as an example as i personally played for a bit, enjoyed it for a bit, and then left it.
@felixthewolf7147
@felixthewolf7147 2 года назад
ever since jeff kaplain left it all went down hill fast
@StarryInkArt
@StarryInkArt Год назад
I strongly agree. I remember playing since the first week of Overwatch 1. I remember when everything was free. I miss the early days. I honestly hate this Battle Pass thing, and with the current state of the worlds economy, I dont know where they think we are all super rich to afford these items for this game, but I am definitely not paying for a battlepass. Theres alot of bad decisions with this game I generally dislike, for example, I expected the story mode to be with us in the release but I havent found it and I dont think its a part of the game yet. Its jusg an unfinished mess. They shouldve just given us an improved version of the game with a free Overwatch 1 and better features like it used to be. Overwatch 2 was overhyped and unesscary.
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft Год назад
Thank you for watching and for responding :) I agree, even if I had the money to buy my way through this game, I don't even know if I would bother. I would have been fine with paying a flat rate for the full game if it meant I could at least get future heroes for free.
@Zoulz666
@Zoulz666 2 года назад
Don't like the monetization but Overwatch 2 is a solid game if you look past that stuff. Personally i'll play it free tier until i'm bored of it.
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
That's good to hear! I hope that the PvE mode comes out good, then I might give it a try. Who's your favorite hero?
@kaelobstewart1317
@kaelobstewart1317 2 года назад
Is it? Because servers have been crashing since launch and everyone lost their cosmetics, at least for a little while. I’m still waiting to hear back from Blizzard, but they’re “not responding directly to support tickets because most of the submitted tickets are about issues we’ve already resolved.” It’s just a quick and easy way for them to milk idiots for their money
@pewpewgames6446
@pewpewgames6446 2 года назад
@@kaelobstewart1317 the servers stopped crashing like 5 days ago lol
@scrilla4047
@scrilla4047 2 года назад
It's unreasonable to expect a game company to constantly update and add new heros for a one time sale IMO.
@Montesama314
@Montesama314 2 года назад
They did it for Overwatch 1. Why not now?
@scrilla4047
@scrilla4047 2 года назад
@@Montesama314 no they didn't, they had lootboxes which were mtx. Now lootboxes are banned in multiple countries so they switched to battle pass
@dragoncpu2226
@dragoncpu2226 2 года назад
@@scrilla4047 No they switched to 20$ year old skins. They did not just switch to a battlepass. And even if they did. They removed a way to get coins. They dont even have any coins in the battle pass. fk off with that bs.
@gharbog
@gharbog Год назад
But it also shouldn't cost over 500 dollars or 21 years to grind to get legendary skins for all heroes. That's obscene
@voidex1494
@voidex1494 2 года назад
The whole "its free to play" excuse for why everything is locked behind a pay wall now is such BS... Apex Legends, a game literally owned by EA. Probably the scummiest company out there when its comes to microtransactions. Has been Free to play since the start and uses the exact same system that OW1 had. You a get a free pack every 2 levels that gives you 3 none duplicate cosmetic items. Every 30 packs you're guaranteed 1 legendary cosmetic. The packs also give you crafting metals to buy any skin of your choosing. Just like how OW1 works. Apex legends literally gives you over 500 free packs now. That's 1500 unique cosmetics items. 50 of those are going to be legendary. And the game is free to play... Plus Apex lets you get the new characters for free day 1... No battle pass required. If EA can do it. So can Blizzard. Blizzard is only do this with OW2 becuase they literally feel like. They're trying to squeeze out as much money as they possibly can before Microsoft comes barreling through and fires all the higher ups...
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
Amen!!! Enough said this is exactly how I feel! My lastest video on this comes out on Friday to discuss exactly this.
@cameroncullen7632
@cameroncullen7632 2 года назад
I’ve noticed that games are all evolving into one thing. I miss days when games were more simplistic if you compare the new cod to the old ones I prefer the simplicity of the old games
@lordsaladman2526
@lordsaladman2526 2 года назад
anyone remember when this game used to be fun and not just an asset for corporations?
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
Private equity and modern day financial tactics have taught these businesses to extract more value from us unfortunately
@robertschaffer596
@robertschaffer596 Год назад
Oh boy so much agree here with you buddy. I too played the beta back in the days of OW1 and even though i never loved playing these team based shooters, never played TF2 or anything like that, i fell in love with OW. Me and my friends who also never played such games sinked a shitload of hours into it. It was so much fun, the community was exceptionally awesome in the forst 1-2-3 month, and the best part about it, nobody was playing it as a tryhard and everyone had fun. Everyone could just pick whichever hero they wanted and everyone laughted his/her ass off by meme picks and meme teams and by seeing a play of the game of a dead torbjorn laying lifeless on the ground while his turret picked off 3-4 people. Then......the worst happend. Competitive game mode was added. And that's the point where OW started to go down the sinkhole rapidly. Tryhard hillbillies invaded the game. Toxicity stated to grow rapidly and Blizzard decided to start reworking heroes and the entire roaster balance along the very few competitive players whoalways cried about every hero which could kill them in their streams. And they destroyed every fun and beloved hero, and introduced more and more pointless heroes pleasing the CoD players. R.I.P Overwatch. IT was a good ride.
@Dokkanplug
@Dokkanplug 2 года назад
The new free to play version was never a good idea. While I enjoy overwatch, and I always will, they have just shot themselves in the foot with this one. Its a completely different vibe and does not appeal to the old players, new players sure, they'll probably be able to play without knowing what's going on. Its just a bit upsetting. When I heard of f2p I prepared for the worst. Thats not to say the games completely awful. Its the greedy side of blizzard that has ruined a cosmetic side, and now a competitive side of the game. What a shame
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
I've heard that the gameplay mechanics and tweaks have been well regarded! But I agree, going free to play felt weird and I would have gladly paid for a new installment
@Dokkanplug
@Dokkanplug 2 года назад
@@ooplesoft precisely, plus don't forget we still have the campaign to release yet, perhaps this will be the thing that makes or breaks the game
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
@@Dokkanplug honestly I do want to see this game get better with time (better queue times, more maps, etc.). I think we will see some improvements in the near future! Or at least I hope lol
@Dokkanplug
@Dokkanplug 2 года назад
@@ooplesoft I too am hopeful, though fumbling the bag initially they still have the base for an amazing game
@MarkusAT
@MarkusAT Год назад
Having played over 3000h Overwatch I'm so glad there's finally some hooks and real updates. You can always buy $60 worth of currency and buy only the battle passes with hero in it? At least there's incentive to pay people for updating the game..
@dragoncpu2226
@dragoncpu2226 2 года назад
None of this would be a issue if they gave us in game currency to buy whatever we want. be it heros or skins at a reasonable time frame. Maybe 1 legendary skin a week or something. LIterally scamming people for money. I say scam because just wait till "overwatch2" gets the same treatment as overwatch 1. And never see a update for years.
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft Год назад
Yeah I think they're going to be disappointed with the store engagement and not prioritize changes to this game. It might get the Halo Infinite treatment
@christopherdavis5297
@christopherdavis5297 2 года назад
I bought the battle pass because it’s a decent value for what you get, but the fact that Overwatch 2 gives you no way to earn items by grinding (except a measly 60 coins for doing a bunch of weekly challenges …) is a big turn-off for me. They don’t even include any in-game currency in the battle pass the way Fortnite does. Stingy, Blizzard … 🙄
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
EA and other publishers are taking notes. If this turns out to be a successful business model, other games WILL follow
@christopherdavis5297
@christopherdavis5297 2 года назад
@@ooplesoft For what it’s worth, I don’t intend on buying any of the items in the shop. The prices themselves are not really the issue; it’s more that there is no way to earn any items by simply playing the game. You have to pay for *everything*. Almost makes me miss loot boxes …
@princesscadance197
@princesscadance197 Год назад
I think the best way to fight the horrid approach to this game is by voting with your gameplay. Don't force yourself to play a game you don't *love*. I put my gameplay hours into Minecraft and Left 4 Dead 2, I don't love Overwatch or the sequel, so I'm not going to force myself to play it just to bolster its player count for Blizzard.
@dex9722
@dex9722 2 года назад
you are spitting facts man
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
Thank you brother I'm glad you liked it 🙏 I took a long break from making videos but I'm back.
@yourfriendlycynic
@yourfriendlycynic 2 года назад
at this point i dont even wanna waste my energy being disappointed with blizzard...i will play the game when i get bored with apex but i think thats all, not gonna put any commitment to it like i did when overwatch 1 first came out. somehow this makes me nostalgic though
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
I'm glad I could evoke that nostalgia. I still look fondly on those days of early Overwatch and wish this game did that for me. I used to have an itch to play that game every day of the week. Now it's less than a whisper.
@yourfriendlycynic
@yourfriendlycynic 2 года назад
@@ooplesoft same ay
@breem1924
@breem1924 2 года назад
I am definitely trying not to let all the changes ruin my love for this game. It is hard. I've been playing ow since season 3, and I really wish they would have continued updating ow1 instead of what happened. Now, people are going to be more encouraged to one trick and not swap because they spend money for cosmetics for their heroes. Overwatch 2 is cool, it feels better to play, but it feels sort of like a shell of what could have been.
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
Exactly! I LOVED switching heroes on the fly because I'm "casual" lol. It's the same way I play TF2. I have my favorites, but I do like to experiment
@turonturon8301
@turonturon8301 2 года назад
Agree 100% with u.
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
Thank you ☺️
@CozyCatte
@CozyCatte 2 года назад
I really don't mind the changes But I'm a Rainbow Six Siege player so I'm used to having a season pass and having to unlock characters 🤷‍♀
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
I like Rainbow 6 too ☺️ I think that Rainbow 6 started off with that model (similar to Apex Legends) and so you are used to it when playing that game. I think Overwatch made a sharp pivot into this model and it rubbed a lot of the playerbase the wrong way.
@killiondace5411
@killiondace5411 2 года назад
Man I still love it
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
Who's your favorite hero? I used to love Reaper so much
@killiondace5411
@killiondace5411 2 года назад
@@ooplesoft idk I like all of em
@izanagiforsmite4365
@izanagiforsmite4365 2 года назад
If they take heros out of the pay wall or extreme grinding and just have them free then I'd play it more, OW1 has a magic to it that OW2 accidentally ripped it out without knowing they did
@MarkusAT
@MarkusAT Год назад
You seem like someone who would love playing custom games
@ValoriYT
@ValoriYT 2 года назад
Although I see your points, I think you should at least try the new game before talking badly about it. Ignore the battle pass, don’t buy anything, and at least try the game :) Yes, the game has gotten more competitive, but I think that it was inevitable that the game would start to be shifted towards balance for competitive players. But that doesn’t mean that the casual part of the game is entirely gone. Yes, you won’t feel the magic of 6 monkeys rampaging on a point in quick play, but you can still do that in no limits, or in the custkm gamemode “Clone Army”. There are so many fun things for a casual player to enjoy in the current game, ESPECIALLY with the introduction of the workshop. Again, I do see your points, but I feel like it’s disingenuous to call out a game for changing the way it works if you haven’t even played the darn thing in over half a decade. We will never get the golden era of Overwatch back, not because the game was better back then, but because the game was NEW back then. The novelty was what really made the experience of playing overwatch so magical. I would have never tried and enjoyed Fortnite if they kept the building, and I think the lack of building is healthier and more fun for the game. But diehard Fortnite OG’s will probably look back fondly of the days where to be baseline proficient at the game, you needed to know how to create a tower on command with high APMs, because they don’t like change, and loved the novelty of the mechanic. All-in-all, until you’ve at least tried the new OW2 through an even remotely unbiased lens, people will be uninclined to take your points seriously, even if some of them are valid. Criticizing something without having tried it leaves no room for someone to change your mind. And so complaining to others about changes to a game that you haven’t tried in years is like trying to complain to a brick wall. There is little effective feedback to be given and no room to discuss.
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
I think you're exactly right. I feel that I needed this video to express my initial thoughts and will likely make a follow-up video when I've taken time to give it a fair shot. I don't want to appear like a hater. The narrative surrounding this game left a sour taste in my mouth to be honest. What's been your favorite change so far made to the game?
@drizztds
@drizztds 2 года назад
I think there is no future for this game, blizzard removed me from this game without proper 21: 9 support, then when I tried to give it a shot there were so long queme times that it wasn't worth my time anymore. I try to play as long as there are people, but when I have to wait 5 minutes + for the game, I will also quit.
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
That's crazy man. And they're owned by Activision! How did the Modern Warfare 2 beta work better than this LOL
@ez336
@ez336 2 года назад
Damn bro im having the time of my life. lifes great when you aren't a pessimist :D
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
Sorry that I came off like that bro, definitely not my typical video haha. I'm glad you enjoy the game and I do want to see how the PvE comes out and if the current state improves
@ez336
@ez336 2 года назад
@@ooplesoft haha it’s not a bad thing. When you go into things with low expectations it’s hard to be disappointed that’s more what I mean.
@grumpyoats
@grumpyoats 2 года назад
Sounds like you missed out on most of OW1.
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
Honestly I did, but when I was playing and put in those first hundred hours, man was it fun.
@HalimWO
@HalimWO 2 года назад
Wait you have to get to tier 55 to play kimiko? Then why can I play her right now? Btw gud vid
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
Thank you :) I've heard that some progression is bugged and people either don't have any new heroes unlocked or have all of them. Did you buy the battlepass? I think you unlock her instantly if you do
@unserioes0815
@unserioes0815 2 года назад
If you have OW1 you can play her right away!
@radical7628
@radical7628 2 года назад
The issue is that apex is made by dice and alot of people enjoy their titanfall series and knows that they can balance and maintain a game fairly for everyone, overwatch is made by a company who is now infamous for their recent titles and horrible managment, The fact its in the nasty septic covered hands of acti-vasectomy doesnt make it better they are litteraly known for making sequels a dlc with a number and leeching onto any pay model infamous or not.
@crossdaboss8914
@crossdaboss8914 2 года назад
Apex is not made by dice it is made by respawn
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
Agree, I think Blizzard has really chopped away at their reputation. For me, it was their Hearthstone Scandal with China that got me to uninstall all Blizzard games.
@crossdaboss8914
@crossdaboss8914 2 года назад
@@ooplesoft interestingly the overwatch team was the only part of blizzard to speak out against the blitzchung ban calling for it to be lifted this came directly from Jeff kaplan at the time.
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
@@crossdaboss8914 i miss Jeff :( I still watch old Dinoflask videos
@ElmeriMC
@ElmeriMC 2 года назад
I loved The first game but The second i hate
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
I think a lot of people, even the pros, are feeling this way. I think the Blizzard that made the first one is different than the Blizzard that we know today. They prioritized monetization over everything else and this is what we ended up with.
@BrokeCasualGamer
@BrokeCasualGamer 2 года назад
This game was legendary
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
Amen brother - time of my life
@jaxonn3744
@jaxonn3744 2 года назад
y’all are such crybaby’s😂😂😭 they add a shop and make the meta better and y’all act like they made apex 2
@TZ-ik3ep
@TZ-ik3ep Год назад
>Make the meta better >go into open queue >4 tanks and a lucio
@eheh8303
@eheh8303 2 года назад
One thing is, in apex legends the characters are not the core part of the gameplay as in overwatch sure it does help a little but it's more of a convinient kinda thing. more then the legend's your gunplay, gamesense, movement how mechanically skilled you are matters more then the legend themselves sure their abilities provide some kind of conviniency but that's all which itself sets it apart from this game I mean apex is a generic fps shooter game at its core which overwatch isn't n I'm new to overwatch I main apex n I agree with everything u said but comparing ow to apex rubbed me the wrong way I guess if you don't mind me typing that, other then that I do agree with you almost on every statement u made as I seen dat myself when I tried the game.plus I hate that u don't get your coins back through bp rewards. Overall a good content I'd say.
@r3vult
@r3vult 2 года назад
It’s fun for me so
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
I'm honestly glad to hear that! I'm not upset that others are having fun, I think this game is most likely going to find a new audience and maybe I am not the target
@AstoriaXeno
@AstoriaXeno 2 года назад
I thinks its so easy to sit back and hate, it's a free game that you can download and play, they need to make money somehow, playing a game for the first time is always gonna be different 6 years later, apex feels different than the first time you booted it up; if you're tired of overwatch that's fine but to make a video to hate on a product to fit the Trend or because you're "tired" of it isn't gonna get you more subs man, hating for no reason is all people do now its crazy, no game comes out with excitement anymore its only people hating on every game that ever comes out
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
Totally understand and definitely was not doing this to farm views or subs. I had been talking to friends and family about how exhausted I was of Overwatch 2 and decided to express how I felt. Maybe I'm too distanced from the present state of the Overwatch community to have a "good" opinion, but I see a lot of professionals (Seagull for example) talking about how disappointed they were by this game so I think other folks feel the same way.
@buuuba7022
@buuuba7022 2 года назад
You played a game that you havent touched for half a decade and you dont like the fact it is not the same game anymore and people actually follow the META to rank up. Those are your arguments? If you dont like it dont play it, all these RU-vidrs with less than 100 subs act like they need to express their opinion even tho most of you havent actively played the game and the mere fact you like Apex but dont allow Overwatch to adept some of its features makes you sound hypocritical which makes your whole argumentation invalid imo.
@КостяМедников-ю2м
@КостяМедников-ю2м 2 года назад
does "the META" has anything to do about locking new characters in a battle pass?
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
I think there is an aspect of "I liked what I had back then" and I definitely see your point that a game should be allowed to borrow traits from another well-regarded title. But the spirit of the original game got lost along the way. There was a different feel to it. Team Fortress 2, Counter Strike, and Halo for example are different games whose identity remains intact throughout time and with each update. Overwatch changed their core-progression system by locking heroes behind a battle pass, similar to Apex. The difference is, Apex was always like that, and Overwatch was not.
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
Yeah exactly my point 😊
@ooplesoft
@ooplesoft 2 года назад
Also, just because I'm a small RU-vidr does not make my opinion less valid. I think I'm free to make a video like this and you are free to disagree with me.
@mooose_9983
@mooose_9983 2 года назад
@@ooplesoft I don't know how I feel about the recent monetization changes but you can unlock the new hero for free just by playing for an hour or two. So I wouldn't say they are "locked" behind a battle pass when everyone can access the new hero.
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