We fixed a broken motherboard (Pin)... and broke it even more. BUT now it's working :D

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@Otawakun 4 года назад

We professionally do that almost everyday. We rarely use microscopes and magnifying glass but a lot of lighting is important. You can try creating a jig so that you can put a heat gun on the bottom of the board . 350 degrees is enough to prevent quickly melting the socket and you can skip the flux, it only makes it look messy. You can also try to use tweezers with finer tips. Other than that, you did well.

@der8auer 4 года назад

Thanks!

@metalkhor 4 года назад

that is the exact method we use. it's even possible to use lower temperature but it will take way longer for pins to loosen up.

@animearmpits3060 4 года назад

Agreed, 350c should be sufficient.

@AllelujaYourMother 4 года назад

@der8auer I would also consider using non-magnetic tweezers since that's why u messed up the other pin (or just touching the pin with magnetic ones instead of catching it for better precision).

@spacecy 4 года назад

How can a pin on the cpu socket break? What would be the conditions?

@critiqalerror 4 года назад

Other content creators: have custom intro Roman: SEASONIC THE HEART OF YOUR SYSTEM

@jowarnis 4 года назад

Lets be real intros shouldnt exist in 2020..

@der8auer 4 года назад

@Erotikstudio Winkler GmbH :D true story

@dilet1114 3 года назад

@@der8auer EVGA: Come over to the dark side roman! we have cookies!

@fVNzO 4 года назад

If you want to really Frankenstein this board up you bios mod it to support coffee lake now.

@Thefuror38500 4 года назад

This mod is not really hard btw

@criss4k797 4 года назад

Cheers! I normally do work like that, and to avoid damaging the plastic parts, work on a hot plate at 100 - 150 degrees Celsius to avoid applying excessive heat with the hot gun, a hug from Costa Rica !!

@JosephAraya 4 года назад

wow I didn't know anyone was doing board repair here in costa rica, that's awesome.

@tranarchist6335 4 года назад

We need Louis Rossman reacting to this video like he did with Jay's video

@TheVlad33 4 года назад

Heating a big BGA chip or socket in one place can warp the board and introduce more problems. Usually either an IR bottom heater or a DIY lamp heater can be used to even out the temperature difference across the board. In general the slower you go and the less temperature shock you introduce, the better. This would also help not to melt the socket.

@aqib2000 4 года назад

Vlad Ivanov no shit

@tranarchist6335 4 года назад

@@aqib2000 not everyone knows this kind of stuff. It might seem obvious to you but that doesn't mean that everyone knows it.

@aqib2000 4 года назад

Samuel Ares on RU-vid search BGA rework and you can learn everything. If you don’t seek knowledge don’t expect it to be force fed into your gob.

@tuttocrafting 4 года назад

You have to preheat the board, and have another heat source in the bottom.The huge groundplane in the inner layers to have a proper controlled impedance circuit will sink a lot of heat away. I have no idea if the socket itself will melt before the solder does. Unfortunatly specs/datasheets of the sockets are not public available so soldering temperature is unknown to most. Even professionals have to try and error.

@benskidmore6523 4 года назад

It's definitely worth shielding areas you don't want to inadvertently melt. Tinfoil is ok for mild heat and further areas, but kapton tape is excellent near the work area. It will resist soldering temperatures completely. Tip: to avoid sticking it to CPU socket pins, place some tin foil behind the tape or stick two pieces together by their sticky sides. Then stick it down at the edges of the CPU socket.

@valentinocolaon6060 4 года назад

having a preheating plate helps a lot because if you preheat the board from underside to lets say 80C then you need a lot less heat energy from above via heat gun to melt the solder and thus put less strain on the parts your working with. also I will always repeat this: before any bga smd rework pls dehidrate your pcbs and parts in a regullar oven for 12 hrs at 80 to 90C. or else (google: pcb popcorning)

@valentinocolaon6060 4 года назад

btw nice job, I'd hire you

@ra9im308 2 года назад

please can you tell the proper way and tempatures to pin out and pin inout those broken with others . i have 4 snaped unfortunly

@Raima888s 4 года назад

You've got really steady hands. I bent a Ryzen pin this weekend, used a DSL camera on a tripod with a macro lens, and HDMI out to a 50" TV see what I was doing. Ended up using a sewing pin to bend the cpu pin back. Trick was to be patient and very gradually pressure.

@GPUtest 4 года назад

"I mean the board is broken anyway" counter: 2

@lucalanzi9345 4 года назад

This is literally the best channel on RU-vid. Incredible video production quality, clear instructions and amazing shots. Fantastic Work. Thank You!

@TheMadDutchDude 4 года назад

Incredible, Roman. Your work never ceases to amaze me!

@Archer_Legend 4 года назад

Me: tries to fix a bad seated ram stick and breaks the motherboard. Der8auer: tries to fix a pin and in breaking more things, he repairs everything. I need some private lessons

@TechyBen 4 года назад

I broke a SMD resistor off a motherboard once trying to fix a stupid ebay buyers "it's broken" pin breaking incident when they tried to force the wrong heatsink on it. I fixed the pin, plugged the CPU back in, then put my own heatsink on, and crushed the fan power socket/wire into the motherboard. Whoops. Soldered it back on and it worked and still sold the motherboard on. The next buyer used it fine!

@Viking8888 4 года назад

This was a great video Roman! I replaced a pin on a z170 board awhile ago. It took me over an hour with a magnifying glass to do it. All i did was take a pin from a socket 775 board and pressure fit it in with the broken pin. I carefully placed the CPU in the slot and it worked and has been working perfectly ever since. I wasn't aware you could use the hot air station to desolder the pins like you did. I will be using your method next time I need to replace a pin!

@johnskerlec9663 2 года назад

I just tried the same recently on an Asrock 1150 board but with wire and it didn't work. I never thought of using pin from another mb. How did you remove the 775 pin? Did you use heat?

@Viking8888 2 года назад

@@johnskerlec9663 Hey John, I actually didn't have anything to heat it with at the time, so I used a hobby style razer knife and sliced away that insanely tough plastic little by little until I exposed some of the pins. What I didn't mention above was how many pins I had to go through to get the one that worked. Those things are so small they jest kept springing off into every direction. Sometimes I would find it and try again, but it was frustrating how many just disappeared on me as I was trying to get it into place. The end result was me doing a victory yell and fist pump in the air and then crashing for a bit from mental exhaustion. It was worth it though!

@johnskerlec9663 2 года назад

@@Viking8888 I get it. Those microscopic parts do seem to spring out and disappear. I tried to use a fine wire and under the microscope it looked like a fucking log. It didn't work and was not springy enough i guess. I didn't realise the 775 pin could be used though. I have a fried P4 Asus P4S800 I thought I might use but don't have the patience.

@ovalwingnut 3 года назад

"Repetition Breeds Confidence"... Pretty darn good job! You have cut a trail for the rest of use. I definitely want to see the backside of these LGA sockets. I think I would have a better feel for what's happening behind the scenes. Very COoL my friend. Thank you!!! Cheers from So.Calif

@spenmac 4 года назад

Nice work Roman, i gave done the bent pin repair with a needle, eye lense assy out of a pair of binoculars and an led light.

@Delistd 4 года назад

You always impress me Roman. Very well done.

@PaulTheFox1988 4 года назад

I have to try this, I would probably go with applying a tiny amount of amtek flux on the pin to be removed, cover the socket with kapton tape where there's plastic, then use the rework gun at about 200C to preheat the entire board, and get the entire board too hot to comfortably touch, then go for hitting the pin with 375-400C. This should minimise the damage to the area, while making it easier to remove the specific pin. I need to practice it through, and my thoughts on how to tackle it might change once I give it a go.

@edward20049 3 года назад

You're of to a good start, someone gave me a board with some broken pins. Well you give me some encouragement which I'd like to try.

@jakubt.4422 4 года назад

Great job with basic stuff, this video is very helpful. I will try this method on my other mainboards that they have bent and damaged pins. :)

@machinainc5812 4 года назад

I have the same z170 Gene board. I mainly use it to mess around with overclocking and stuff. I really like the Gene boards

@KeithZim 4 года назад

It was so cool having young eyes!! I really miss the ability to do things like this. Nice Video! Thanks.

@winsucker7755 4 года назад

I love it, how socket is all molten lava now.

@kevinm3751 4 года назад

I have saved three boards doing this and feel your pain with how small they are. Wish there was a better option for getting the heat just where needed, that would solve a lot of problems with these types of repairs.

@SheltonCyril 4 года назад

The Rossmann reference xD

@Mikeuh-56 4 года назад

roSSmaNN

@currentlykent4593 4 года назад

That was badass. Well done.

@johnlatez7621 4 года назад

for almost ideal result use pcb heating plate , the motherboard socket area should be heated to 120-140c (from back side ) then use your heat gun at 330-350c , do not forget to add some flux. also you have to calibrate this cheap heat gun .

@angelamcmahon 4 года назад

Awesome, Well done.

@draynged7869 2 года назад

Bro melting or not you fixed it, and that is a win in my book! Way to go!!

@bryantallen703 4 года назад

Ouch! That MSI TITANIUM... That board was awesome. I actually bought a z370 Aorus Gaming 7 that had bent pins and was RTV'd and fixed strait from Gigabyte. I could still tell were the pins were repaired but, it was just fine. I got the board for $145 and a 5.3GHz 1.380v 8700K for $280 to go with it. It hasn't cause any issues and i severely stressed that board. I never really had problems with bent pins because i never bent any. I was always over cautious around open sockets. Though, i fixed many of them throughout the years. After realising i could remove pins, I bought some killer boards that were thought to be worthless.

@magoid 4 года назад

So nice of Intel to: 1 - Inventing this POS socket, leaving the problem of broken pins to the motherboard manufacturers; 2- Exiting the motherboard manufacturing market almost at the same time...

@radarjoy 4 года назад

Awesome job.

@Napert 4 года назад

i had similar situation, i bent a couple of pins on msi b250m pro-vd and it would no longer post but after a couple of hours of fiddling around in the socket and bending even more pins i finally managed to bend them back to working order however i lost a screw to the m.2 drive which is my boot drive so i just wedged some isolated tweezers between the cpu heatsink and the gpu and i can boot properly

@HappyBeezerStudios 4 года назад

I actually got a board with a broken pin, but it still works, seems be a simple ground pin, and the socket has over 100 of those. But the documents to the CPUs and their sockets are out there, including the LGA layout.

@dangingerich2559 4 года назад

You have to have extremely good fine motor control and steady hands to do this. I sure couldn't.

@farhandahari6284 3 года назад

Hi. How did get a hold a replacement pins? Is it sold somewhere? I have a couple of broken pins and not sure how to fix it...

@miguelfernandez2325 4 года назад

There are several products, such as heat shields, that you can place around the area that you don't want to heat up as you work on the pins you want to replace.

@musmuk5350 4 года назад

This guy really looks like Jimmy Neutron!

@Alex-wq9ii 4 года назад

😂

@25MHzisbest 4 года назад

I managed to get a h110 board back to life with 2 bent pins at either side of the socket. Good day light helped, and just a Stanley knife blade did the trick for me. Most not be that blind yet! Can't wait to get the Ryzen OC mounting frame. ETA 28th April at ocuk.

@jobbus22 4 года назад

I have fixed two LGA1150 boards (both asus Z97 and z87) with only the tip of the multimeters measuring tip. One had 5 pins pended? and the other had 1 pin wrong(problems with memory channels). Both of these jobs were succesfull and the cpu's and memory worked ok after. The mb that had 5 pins wrong I had to use magnifying glass to get them straight, that was Asus Z87 maximus hero. And I made about 80€ for doing those because I bought them 20€ a piece and sold them with nice profit. But it's not a job for everyone, you have to know what are you doing. And thanks for this video der8auer! Nice to learn more!

@dexheavy85 4 года назад

I can't give you advice on pin replacement, but I can help you steady your hand. Always have your pinky finger or part of your palm resting on the surface. I have noticed in the video that only your forearm, and not the palm was resting against the motherboard. That is why you couldn't control the hand enough to just pull one pin out. And also hold tweezers like you would hold a pen while you write. You have practiced fine motor skills for writing your whole life, why not use them to control tweezers. :)

@Big_Computer 4 года назад

there is no such thing as fail or stupid if it works, so if it works i consider it as a win

@wargamingrefugee9065 4 года назад

For me, success is when I learn something.

@kakkajuttujekku 4 года назад

After soldering you should clean all the flux and other stuff from the socket with IPA (isopropanol). It will make the board look much cleaner and prevents contact problems. However now during corona the price can be terrible

@gaet257 3 года назад

I think it makes sense to try a cold repairing first. Easily remove a pin from a donor new socket you can buy on ebay for few cents, cut it on the needed lenght and insert it on the failed pin without removing it completely. Soldering it it's not necessary. Than you can decide to solder or not the old and the new pin together rather than on the board. I tryed it on a board with two memory pins broken and now it's working good. Good video anyway.

@heyguyslolGAMING 4 года назад

Great vid, tyvm

@Devoureroc_gaming 4 года назад

ur a genius roman really 🤙

@PedroJimenez-nf8rc 4 года назад

Der8auer you are an inspiration to computer enthusiasts and a legend in overclocking, I have a question do you think its possible to delid the new 10th Gen intel processors with your delid diemate 2 or should I not upgrade yet i have an i7 8700k delided at 5.2Ghz at 1.4Vcore???

@panukauppinen177 4 года назад

Soldering tweezers like the jbc nano an115-a with the smallest spade tips might make this replacement a lot easier.

@KiraandtheFamily 3 года назад

İt's good video,This thermoplastic can handle 275°C like 45 seconds and pin soldering joints are melting at 237°C mostly.With this method you are not breaking socket originality.

@ra9im308 2 года назад

please can you tell the proper way and tempatures to pin out and pin inout those broken with others . i have 4 snaped unfortunly

@peterhindes56 4 года назад

one thing I've heard about hot air rework stations is that if they don't have good consistency in temperature then you have to set the temperature much higher and they can spike and melt things.

@MrIsmaeltaleb85 4 года назад

Hi Roman. Can u please help me out with which stock cooler fits a reference blower model 780ti? I know the evga sc acx coolet fits but do you know if the layout of a gtx970 or gtx780 is also same? My asus 780ti (blower) is an excellent overclocker and can run timespy at 1325mhz at 1.212v but the cooler is obviously hopeless. Thanks

@teardowndan5364 4 года назад

When I do SMD rework, I prefer using lower temperatures (300-350C) and a larger nozzle so I can use lower air speed and not have to worry about blowing components off... or melting connectors/sockets.

@SW1F7Y-11 2 года назад

Hey you done so well on that one how do you feel about replacing 20-30pins on my one? 😅 I ended up bending them yesterday while taking the cpu off for the first time. The arm that locks it into place ended up slipping off my thumb and proper banged the cpu into the socket 🤦‍♂️and I havent got the funds to replace it 😭

@mikefrench86 4 года назад

I had the same problem with pins when I accidentally dropped the cpu into it. I did get the pins straightened out enough to work though. I got lucky.

@hoppyrabbit1833 4 года назад

Guess I'm out of luck. My soldering iron is from Radio Shack circa 1980

@gerbryf 4 года назад

Nice work, I enjoyed this very much. Just thinking maybe a heatshield would have been useful, maybe even some aluminium foil (with a small hole to work through) taped down to the motherboard would have helped? Anyway, good stuff, keep it coming Roman.

@benskidmore6523 4 года назад

Kapton tape is your friend here. It's like sticky tape but it's completely heat resistant at soldering temperatures. You can literally put solder on it and drag it around with an iron. Magic!

@gerbryf 4 года назад

Yes, that yellow tape, it would be ideal, I agree totally!

@cybercat1531 4 года назад

Worth noting that the ZD-939L is a very low power soldering station rated at just 320W

@mattsmechanicalssi5833 4 года назад

240V @ 320W, and can reach 500 C. More than enough for the task.

@chesternovemrrevales4578 2 года назад

amazing bro.. i like what you did😎

@fenrislegacy 9 месяцев назад

I successfully did it in a very crude way. I ripped the socket of a fried MB to harvest a pin, then wedged it in the hole of the broken pin of a known good MB. The damn thing post! I still can’t believe it.

@GabbyTech 4 года назад

I would be so nervous doing that, I mean I even drop stuff haha

@Magnet0730 2 года назад

I like the way you say video it sounds like wideo with a w. I love the accent.

@JR-zw2vb 2 года назад

Wow. god level!

@valmeyraSIRH 2 года назад

Hi, I have a question. Can I use, for example, 775 socket pins to replace broken 1150 socket pins?

@TheUnknownFactor 4 года назад

Could you say anything about the risk of damaging for example the CPU or RAM by trying to fix your own motherboard?

@poklop252 3 года назад

i have celerons or i3 cpu and 512MB ram sticks for testing motherboards, it realy cheep sometimes for pick up only

@Buildonsound 4 года назад

Louise Rossman!!! get over here!!

4 года назад

Roman: Schafft Weltrekorde im Overclocking Auch Roman: schmelzt ausversehen sein Mainboard 😂

@delroyshay5870 4 года назад

You need a preheater when dealing with a CPU sockets. If not use anything you can find that can produce heat from below. You need continuous heat from below behind the socket to avoid melting the socket when using a heat gun. In truth, a heat gun on it's own can do more damage not just to the socket, but also the PCB. If I did not have the correct equipment I would experiment with something like a pot of hot water behind the CPU socket. At lease you now have constant heat behind the socket.

@tiagooliveira95 3 года назад

11:33 So... you just turned the pc on with flux under the socket? You are so lucky to not have burned the CPU/motherboard, I've had some circuit boards realizing the magic blue smoke just because I was too lazy to clean that off. Even if you are using a high-quality flux, where the conductivity is not a big deal, leaving the flux there will eventually damage the socket

@EbayDK2K 4 года назад

In before the louis rossmann rant! 🤣

@ramzinho4985 4 года назад

His Jay2c video was so funny, this one will be epic. I can’t wait

@mamapapa5860 3 года назад

a few of my bottom left pins got bent. my x16 pcie slot 1 stopped working D6 debug code. i bent back with my finger and the pcie slot is working again.

@mrdr9534 4 года назад

@der8auer Thanks for another interesting video, and I want to say that I really enjoy Your more "odd project videos" like this one. And I don't really "care" if outcome is "success" or "failure" the enjoyment comes from You telling us about how "stuff works" and how You think, so as long as it's informative it's GREAT... like this one. But I must admit that when seeing Your soldering job I did wonder why You didn't even attempt to "shield" the "neighboring parts" of the socket. I think alluminium tape would be ideal, but really anything that can "take the heat" and deflect some of the "direct airflow" away from the parts that You don't intend to "melt" ;) Just a thought. Best regards

@Aleblanco1987 4 года назад

thumbs up for Louis Rossman reference!

@sasank09 2 года назад

very useful

@ra9im308 2 года назад

how i get that red button you use to switch on motherboard ?

@Frank77GLD 2 года назад

Is it true that the monitor will not turn on if the pins are bent?

@kimkeltas9409 2 года назад

FANTASTICK

@BatTech 4 года назад

The nanoleaf lights alone are over $1000 on that wall.

@espi8997 4 года назад

der8auer, job: motherboard surgeon

@paulhackel6311 4 года назад

ach roman its corona time xD geil man

@Khemotherapy 4 года назад

What if you used those dual pronged soldering iron tweezers?

@_BangDroid_ 4 года назад

I've never seen them small enough

@Khemotherapy 4 года назад

BangDroid The JBC one is really small.

@mattsmechanicalssi5833 4 года назад

There are also mosquito nose pliers with extremely small tips that would work well with such tasks. I have one set that I have ground down even further for access to confined areas.

@mikegaming4924 3 года назад

I have one pin broken on MSI Z97 Gaming 7... The Motherboard powers on but turns off in one second. It looks to be VCC pin that is broken. Could it cause motherboard to turn off right away? Can you help? I have video of it in my channel.

@generalxp8850 4 года назад

"Tries for 1 but takes 2" i would end up doing exact same thing

@keibohow69 4 года назад

practice is all you need

@Goldenhordemilo 4 года назад

holding my breath good effort

@KazemitoHaruhi 4 года назад

I prefer tweezers and pen knife or x-acto knife

@spacecy 4 года назад

How can a pin on the cpu socket break? What would be the conditions?

@kristas-not 4 года назад

accidentally dropping something on or a misaligned cpu

@tuxnoel 3 года назад

You could have simply put some solder bead on bent pin head with fine tip iron.

@g.rajesh6251 Год назад

Sir Intel dh61ho mother board broken pins are possible repair then how please 🙏🙏🙏

@idr3aming_inc 4 года назад

How it can possible the plastic not melting

@g_m4k 4 года назад

Task failed successfully?

@joshmalloyracing6669 4 года назад

Hi der8auer, if i sent you my ASUS X79 Rampage IV Formula would you fix the two snapped pins ? On video of course haha :)

@Celician83 4 года назад

@Louis Rossman another good way to make extra money, alot of high end motherboard overs with bad pins on good motherboards out there

@_BangDroid_ 4 года назад

And another good example of right to repair. Imagine being prohibited from repairing your own motherboard, graphics card etc

@user-mx1mj1by1c 4 года назад

what new gaming laptop will you recommend?

@lemonkey7763 4 года назад

My cpu is chipped on the corner a tiny tiny bit will it still work

@C_C- 4 года назад

You may have just surpassed Rossmann

@filipechannel 4 года назад

would be wrong if you used a little bit of flux to remove it?

@rhijengabino126 3 года назад

can u fix cpu pin (amd)

@Roman-ot8tl 4 года назад

Der internationale Boss

@jankocoetzee 3 года назад

Hi i have a few broken off pins on my server motherboard and no one is willing to fix it for me so i want to fix it myself. So what do i need to replace a the pins and repair it??

@bitcoinnoddy6850 3 года назад

i'm thinking about buying the socket from ali express and practice with soldering iron, can you see any downside to this?

@jankocoetzee 3 года назад

@@bitcoinnoddy6850 the problem it you cant use a soldering iron you have to use a hot air soldering thing like in the thumbnial. And i have anoter old motherboard to practice on

@bitcoinnoddy6850 3 года назад

@@jankocoetzee fingers crossed, i've just bought LGA1151 and a USB magnifying glass, i'll check it out and maybe buy that hot air soldering guy and try it out :)

@jankocoetzee 3 года назад

@@bitcoinnoddy6850 thats great i hope you get it right. There are some other videos that you can watch thats shows how to replace the cpu socket