Three weeks ago I was asked by my HR to provide proof of residency such as a lease or utility bill so DoL did the same to me. I used ChooseSD in Spearfish,SD. I had two saving graces for myself, 1) I bought a home two months after I moved to SD and 2) I provided a lease for a coworking office space in Rapid City. My HR was told the reason behind this was they have had a flood of businesses “setting up” in SD for the tax benefits, but not being in SD. We the employee sadly get stuck with the bill though.
good to know. I was told today that everyone with a PMB address will be contacted and proof, such as you provided, will be required. Thanks for the comment.
We appreciate you doing this video with important information about the changes that are happening. Accurate information gives one the ability to make knowledgeable decisions. As things change, different decisions may have to be made that are best for each persons needs. We (personally) are not affected by these new changes. Because we are retired and full time RV travelers, SD was and still remains the best case scenario for us. -Michelle
Thanks for the info. This kind of thing is going to happen everywhere. The state and federal government have become so big and powerful and need to gobble up money anyway they can. Its really sad. Ive paid a ton of taxes over my lifetime. I just want to be left alone.
Wow. One more hit to the honest hard working people. So sorry to hear this is happening. Keep your faith, it will work out and usually is for the better. Wishing you safe travels.
@@OurRoadLessTraveled All those states that don't have income tax, have to get their revenue somewhere. It's usually property tax. (possibly sales tax) since you don't pay that as a homeowner, or renter, you don't pay into the system like the other residents of SD.
We are living in Mexico, so this will likely affect me since I work as a subcontractor with various agencies for limited-term assignments that change every 3 to 9 months. We have not received that letter yet and actually have 2 of the mail forwarding services thanks to the DPS when getting our licenses in September 2022. We are certainly not going to come back from Mexico for a trip to SD to deal with this mess. It does make me wonder about our situation with our SD driver's licenses, vehicle registration, and our Auto Ins with State Farm, which we only pay for a month, then have it suspended for 5 months until it's time to renew. In another 3 1/2 years, we were going to drive the car back to the US and sell it (can only keep a US-plated car in Mexico for the max of temporary residency 4 years; permanent residents can't keep a foreign-plated car). With that being said, we are able to take advantage of Foreign Earned Income Exclusion for our federal taxes. We had plans to "move" to Texas around the time we sell the car. I wonder if we can hold off that long. Thank you VERY much for this video (and the one that followed).
You can hold off. It only affects the state income tax side of things. You will file and out of state income tax form to the state that the company is registered in. for us that was Virginia. In theory the state would return that money in April or March but knowing VA, they would keep most of it. Thats why we moved. We could have stayed and nothing would change other than loosing 1k a month in VA state tax withholding. I prefer that money go into a 401k or other interest account. Thanks for watching and safe travels.
So, you live in Mexico and get paid S. Dakota wage. No wonder they are going after you. Everybody is cracking down on tax cheats and that is what you are.
Very good information. Has anyone recently compiled a list of the best states to have your residency in? Perhaps a spreadsheet that compares the different options
To us the best is TN but nobody runs a mail service in that state. The only two states that have mail services are TX and FL. TX seems to be cheaper on insurance but that is about it. We just moved to TX. We put out a new video this moring explaining why RVers may want to leave SD and very soon if they still work full time and are using a mail service for their address.
The SD Residency center has a great video on this. Basically you need to pay unemployment tax to someone if you are a W2 employee. Another option isThere are some states that make you pay income taxes regardless of your location and others that don't. You CAN pick a state that does not make you pay and use it for work and file taxes at the end of the year and get a refund. This will need to be researched by you based on your situation.
If you watch the other videos 3 in total, I go int to great detail on the actual why and what we did to not have to pay state taxes to a state we did not live in.
The South Dakota legislature passed a law in the summer of 2023 requiring that anyone registering to vote must prove 30 days of residency. According to an article in the Dakota Free Press, this repeats a mistake that South Dakota made in 2003. At that time, lawyers threatened to sue the state, and the Attorney General decided the law could not be defended, and the legislature then rescinded the law. For details, look for an article titled "Unconstitutional 30-Day Residency Requirement Repeats Legislature’s 2003 Error".
Our issue was not about voting. it was about the SD department of labor making our address invalid because we live full time in an RV. thank for the information though.
Just a recommendation on mail forwarding services, I worked for and am friends with the owner s/supervisors of St. Brendan's Isle, good people, great service, FL.
I really don't blame the people of Box Elder. I wouldn't want a bunch of random travelers skewing election results when they have no ties to the community. Also, no income tax states make up the revenue with property taxes or sales taxes. RV'ers who domicile leave the state and add no revenue. SD government has a responsibility to it's actual citizens, not people who take advantage of their laws and leave the state.
All of that is true, but you are forgetting about the fees RVers pay for yearly titling fees, registration fees, vehicle tax fees, tag fees, and money spent while in the state. All of that and require next to zero services. I would hazard to guess most RVers did not vote in local elections, only national ones. Thank you for watching and commenting.
@@OurRoadLessTraveled You "guess" they are not voting on local issues, but you don't know what impact RVers have. There are people in both parties who mark the R or D candidate without any knowledge of the candidate. RVers can impact who the congress or senate reps are and possibly change a red state blue or vice versa in a federal election. The fees you refer to are minimal and you have to pay them regardless of the state. You want to take all the advantages and pay no costs.
@@williamfreeling6546 That opinion works both ways. You dont know that RVers are actually having an impact either. There is no way to really know, without the voter roles, if RVers are even voting. Then you need to look at the election laws in SD. some states dont even look at mail-in votes unless the election is within 1%. Its a hot topic for sure. With that said, SD is not making people stop voting, they just removed their tax status. RVers can still stay and vote, pay out of state taxes to another state, and then request a refund. All the Labor Department has done is stop taking payments into their unemployment system. Which seems counter productive.
@@OurRoadLessTraveled My point remains the same. You want to skip out on taxes and are having a fit that your loophole was closed. There are numerous things that taxes pay for that don't directly benefit the individual taxpayer. My kids are grown, should I not contribute to the education system? Obviously the people of SD feel that RV'ers not benefitting their community and are passing laws reflective of that. You aren't being forced out of anything, you just lost a tax loophole.
@@williamfreeling6546 Not having a fit over it. if you watch the whole video, you will hear me say its legal and I agree with it. Its not a tax loophole either. Nobody in SD pays state income tax, so we were not skipping anything. We were legal residence of SD being asked to pay Virginia state income tax due to an address.
Great information. Hoping that I work for a big company that is already doing business in all 50 states and that I get a pass on this issue. I also looked at the DMV. They still only require one night stay and not the 30 days that you discussed at the beginning of the video. I just got my mail today and there was nothing there from the state. I would move to Florida if this becomes an issue.
@@OurRoadLessTraveled That is not what you said at 4:39 and at the 5:52 minute mark. You stated twice that I would receive the letter and you actually stated that I need to get with my company. You do show an e-mail from your company, but that e-mail says that they can't get the set up in the state. It does not say that SD contacted them. I read the laws and every state has similar laws due to transient employees. 61-1-26 is where everyone is getting hung up. This is how transient employees don't have to pay taxes in every state that they have to work in or visit. My job covers all 50 states I am not paying taxes in all 50 states unless I stay in any one state for more the 180 days and some states are 273 days. I didn't pay taxes in every state when I had a house and traveled. The Department of Revenue also does not show any changes in the laws and the DMV shows no changes in requirements. Can you tell me the bill number that was passed that changed the laws? sdlegislature.gov/Session/Bills/68 I could not find any bills that passed that changed the laws that you indicated getting changed. As for voting per the secretary of the state of SD. sdsos.gov/elections-voting/voting/register-to-vote/residency-qualification.aspx Definition of Residency for Voter Registration (SDCL 12-1-4) HB 1232 did not pass or was not up for a vote. This is a bill that restricts PMB from being used. SB 139 did pass but does not change (sdcl 12-1-4) The only change is that you must be a resident for 30 days before voting. This is where you must have gotten the 30 days. For the purposes of this title (Title 12), the term, residence, means the place in which a person has fixed his or her habitation and to which the person, whenever absent, intends to return. This is why you have to sign the Residency Affidavit. dps.sd.gov/application/files/4716/8061/7929/residency-affidavit-8-22.pdf Lastly, none of the laws say anything about unemployment. Not going to argue out that this becomes a federal issue if they change the intends to return section. From the draft, they do not plan to change that section they plan on changing not using a business address. Walking the fine line as federal law states that every resident must have the right to all state benefits. Like most, I would not fight the change but just leave. Their loss, not mine as they would lose Federal money and unemployment money as well as state taxes when I have to ship things to my PMB. You are correct that there is a lot of FUD going around about SD, but nothing has really changed as I can tell. It just appears that some employers were not set up for SD and can't get pass setting up an employee with a PMB box. As I am not the only employee in SD and my company was already set up in the state I don't think this is big deal. I had other issues with having a PMB address that I had to get around also and it's not just in SD.
I can tell you this, call the Department of labor and see if they do not tell you that a PMB address is no longer valid and that an employee using such address will have to pay income tax in the state that the company they work for is registered. Unless that employee can show a rental, lease, or deed to property in SD. You can reach Franchesca Rossy with the department of labor 605-626-2452. I get everything you are saying, but the fact is PMB addresses are no longer valid for tax usage in the state of SD. I also have a claim open with the governors office. Their policy expert is supposed to be looking into it. I was slo told that the notices only went to employers, not employees. as employees do not pay into the unemployment system. I requested a copy of the notice and was told no, Public Relations would have to approve the release. I reached out to Mr Chaffee, Mr. Wink and the Senator for the district. They are supposed to be assisting is getting me a copy of the notice.
@@OurRoadLessTraveled Thanks interesting. If my company gets notice I can change to Florida in a few days. I am not jumping ship as it would mean moving a lot of stuff such as my wills, car insurance and other items that I just don't feel like moving again. I bet that this is all due to them knowing they can't change the law on the books due to voting rights and they are finding ways to make it harder for us on the road. I have been on the road 4 years working remotely using the same address and now it's not valid. We all know that is a bunch of****. Thanks again for the replies.
FYI - if your combined gross weight is over 26k you will have to get a non commercial CDL in TX. Also just be aware that your vehicle insurance will likely be higher. Mine went from $1100 / yr in NC to $2400 in TX. Still worth it to avoid state income tax.
Thanks for the heads up, we're under the 26k, and somehow our insurance actually went down by switching companies, but yes, it would still be worth it because of the state income tax. Thank you so much for watching and commenting!
Taxifornia only requires a normal drivers' license if the length is under 40' and it's a motorhome (It has a bathroom). I'm pretty sure that the if you satisfy the state's drivers' license requirements the requirements apply nation-wide. IOW, if you have an AZ plated car with AZ drivers' license and your car is heavily tinted it's OK to drive in the Glorious People's State of Taxifornia that prohibits tint. Or, if I have my motorcycle endorsement in CA, I don't need a different one for every state.
This is not correct. If you are over 26k you have to get a CDL. Under 26k but over 10k you have to get a non-commercial class b license in Texas which requires a test both written and driving INCLUDING a parallel parking portion on the driving with your rig attached.
@@SteelHorseNomads RV's are specifically excluded from CDL requirements. Some states like Il, TX require a Class B NON CDL for Class A and Super C over 26000 lbs. A CDL is specific to commercial operation of Class A Class B and Class C vehicles and is basically a state issued federal license. CDL is heavily regulated by the Fed and States both..
we thought about that but we had plans to retire to TX when the time came. We only domiciled in SD because the auto insurance was cheaper. We just changed out policy to our TX address and it actually went down from what we were paying in SD. We love Texas, just were not planning on driving 1200 miles so soon. thanks for the comment and watching.
SD does not have a state income tax. The issue here revolves around your employer and if you intend or would need to collect state benefits such as workman's comp or unemployment.
Ya'll, that's crazy! Knowing you like I do, you have researched every angle and already have a list of people to talk to (much to their chagrin). I hear East or West Dakota is nice this time of year.
We are going back with our kind, Southerners, and Texas is close enough. Good to hear from you brother. Tell Mrs. Kay we said hello, and kiss that grand kid for us.
There is no problem that can’t be solved by simply taxing us more and more, but it’s always the next one that is going to really help, big government is bad, always bad.
The state of South Dakota did you a huge favor in notifying you about the tax liability of your employer jurisdiction. Otherwise you would accrue large back tax bills.
@@OurRoadLessTraveled Same result, you now know. During Covid, many employers required their remote employees to notify them where they were working to address the tax issues. SD did you a huge favor that will save you a headache in the long run.
@@OurRoadLessTraveled this is over whelming , more and more laws you have to know or go over . I am sorry but this is the way it's going to go . It's going to get harder and or the country just going to collapse under all this laws . They want fifteen minutes city's . Look that up . Thank you for your report .
Can't blame the people of South Dakota. Too many people move their address for the benefits of that state and bring their politics with them. I wish every state would do that.
Tried to get on the phone with Scott Odenbach the State Representative of the Deadwood/Spearfish area. The State Legislature has adjourned until January of 2024. I'm in the process of writing an email to them, God willing it will be read and they will get back with me sooner rather than later. Luckily for me the State in which my employer has a physical presence in is Texas, which also has no State Income Tax. For us this is kind of infuriating if I'm honest, you a relegated to literally second class citizen status if you live on BLM/National Forest land or anywhere without a physical domicile. We both fought in Desert Storm and both were discharged from the military honorably and now we're officially homeless according to State Law? Ridiculous. I'll follow up with what I hear, thanks for letting me know, this way I can preempt HR about what is going on.
you should be good, teas does not require an out of state return to be filed. If you want more information call the SD Department of Labor. They are the ones pushing it.
South Dakota doesn't have a state income tax. Much of this information is misleading. If you understand the entirety of the issue, it was motivated by companies not actually located in South Dakota but using the "mail service" option. I worked for one that utilized a South Dakota service, and when they failed to pay and wrote bad checks, employees had little to no recourse (they were physically located in California and went by the name of AG Dakota and Dakota Red). If your employer is not located in South Dakota and does not pay into unemployment or workman's comp, then you, as an employee, should not be able to collect from the state funded program. The primary participants utilizing these services in South Dakota are retired or self-employed, who do not want to pay a State Income Tax. I am also a self-employed, business owner, long-term resident (over 40 years) of South Dakota.
@@wandamiller9280 I verified that my company does have the accounts and pays into the SD unemployment system but I am still not able to use SD as my domicile because I don’t have a physical RESIDENTIAL address.
The question becomes what address (state) do you file your federal taxes under? Most states that have an income tax don't look too kindly on those that say they domicile in a tax free state and then file federal returns using a different state. (DAMHIK😭)
it would have been filled useing a SD address. the address is valid except for anything to do with SD state taxes. Good question and thanks for watching.
Also unemployment follows the employer location, not residence location. I had unemployment for few months from a company in Michigan while I was a resident of California. My unemployment was coming from Michigan
@@nehuge In that case the company you work for pays unemployment to the state that the company is in. Which also forces you to pay income tax, if its collected, in that state. meaning you have to file an out of state state return to get your income tax back. That is the whole problem we were facing. We just moved to TX.
Hey guys, thanks for this video. I wanted to ask you 9 months later if this law that South Dakota was pushing ever became a thing. We live in Mexico and we're thinking about using South Dakota as our home state to avoid the income tax. Do you know if they still force you to pay income tax through whatever state you're working for digitally? Any response would be much appreciated and thanks so much for the great and informative video. - Joe y Britt
Short answer yes, but with conditions. One its a federal law they are following. Two, you have to be using a PMB address from a mail forwarding service. Three, the company you work for does not have a business license in SD. Four, you are a fully remote W2 worker. We move our stuff to Texas. They have a flat $90 fee for the sales tax on each vehicle and then you pay for the tags. Inspection is jus tot make sure you carry the proper insurance limits on your vehicles. We used Escapees in Livingston and have had no problems at all.
@@OurRoadLessTraveled Thank you so much for this excellent information. It sounds to me like the move went very smoothly for you and that it worked out just fine. I'm happy to hear it. Thank you so much again for your valuable input and your content!
@@OurRoadLessTraveled Well, honey - I welcome you and your family to Texas, greatest state in the nation! I'm very sorry that politics is over-riding sanity. This mess has implications far and wide and there should be a very simple fix.
@@MaN-pw1bn we agree. There should be an easy fix, but politicians have to find a way to make money off of it. On a positive side, we were always more Texan than SD. Our Alabama accents dont seem to stick out as much in Texas.
You should have to file taxes for the state the company says you work from. If I live in Wisconsin and work in Minnesota, I have to file a non-resident MN tax return and a Wisconsin resident tax return. Why should you be any different?
Glad I don't have to work anymore and worry about this, at the same time an S Corp can solve this easily spendthrift nevada trusts and corporations no state income tax in Nevada also is just one solution
What if you dont work? if you are unemployed. Lets say everything else you are going thru is the same, but you dont work at all, will that affect you? Thanks for any info, best of luck.
what if your just retired and no longer part of the working class? AKA: no part, seasonal or full time work on the rd? live only on ss and a pension. deposited in a local or online bank? maybe even own a small bit of land in sd?
How would this effect over the road truckers who set their company up in SD but don’t live there? Because otr truckers live in their trucks obviously….
I dont think so, as long as you are not having to pay unemployment into SD. I think you are exempt until you have so many employees. As a truck driver I would not think you would get over 1 employee.
Why should anyone be able to vote in a state in which they don't live??? The law didn't change the tax status, it's always been worded that way now they are just enforcing it. The law you're describing in your video affects voting rights.
if you physically work at an address in MN it should not as long as you are paying taxes in NM. If you are physically onsite in NM and claiming SD to void the NM state income tax, then yes this will get you. We did a third video on this subject that has way more information on it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_sUe5gbWsj8.html
@@larryjanson4011 How so? These people aren't even IN South Dakota buying things and paying sales taxes here, nor are they paying income taxes (we don't have any!!)
@@clarissawolf1721 This whole comment section is all a bunch of tax dodgers, lamenting that the might have to find a new state, not to pay income tax to.
What are your reasons for choosing Texas over Florida or another domicile? I’m in the same situation. W-2 contract Machinist and do not want to end up paying a CA or NY state income tax as a lot of the companies I end up working for are headquartered in these commie states. I literally set up my PMB through America’s Mailbox in SD on Saturday, and because of the info you shared I cancelled it today. I’m glad I saw your video before I changed my residency! Now to choose another domicile. Thanks so much for this extremely valuable info! I’m curious to know your thoughts on Florida vs Texas as things sit currently?
TX auto and health insurance was cheaper. Other than that, they are basically the same. One other factor is that we are more likely to purchase land in TX than FL.
@@JD-vl5yh Luckily I travel a lot for the work I do. It ended up being well worth it to domicile in Texas. I have to mention that the cost of car insurance is insane in Texas compared to what I’m used to though. Over double the cost for about half the coverage I had before with higher deductibles
The Texas GOP has full control and they'll protect their large campaign contributors. Don't worry, therefore. Otherwise, Texas' private mailbox industry has had significant erosion of protections over the last 20 years and seems to be constantly under threat by the Guv & Legislature to pay more and more for 'protection services'.
What if you rented a small storage unit in SD and used that as your address? They will have a lease agreement and may be able to accept your mail and put it in the storage unit.
The actual business address was on my bill of lading with the storage unit number. No one from the actual business was there and employee from the storage company unlocked the door for me to roll the pallet in.
@@skoffco thank you for watching and commenting. We didn't want to wait until retirement to live the full time lifestyle. Just a minor hiccup that has now been resolved. And we can get back to living our new American dream. 🥰
I am going through the same headache right now. @OurRoadLessTraveled did you end up needing to pay back taxes to your employer's state (VA) for the time between setting up domicile in SD and switching to Texas?
Not that we have been told about. I dont think that should be an issue, as we have never been in the state that my company is in. We would just file an out of state tax return and request the tax money back according to our accountant.
@@OurRoadLessTraveled interesting! my company is making me file a GA state income tax (G-4 form) and pay back taxes for the whole year of 2023 ... and when I talked to a tax expert they told me that was the correct course of action even though I do not live in GA... so I'm stumped as to what to do because that is thousanndsssss of dollars
@@amandaraymond8948 look into the non resident state tax return. you should be able to request all the money back after you pay it. Its up to GA to determine if they give it back though.
What if you’re retired and you just want to do the mail forwarding and live in South Dakota in your RV full time? And domicile there for tax relief on retirement? The unemployment insurance would not be an issue. I don’t know why anybody would a so cold but I’m just asking?
Great question. I think this only affects people who work for a company outside of South Dakota. Its has to do with unemployment tax. Those that are retired should be fine.
Two posts. Both political. It’s not politics, rewatch it. It’s the federal IRS making sure states get paid for unemployment claims. Everything is not political all the time.
I dont have an rv but my friend has one and he offered me to come live with him, hes a texas resident. can i sign up for the escapees club and get a texas drivers license then buy an rv later in the coming years?
Still the best state not to live in. Texas OH BOY Vehicle inspections. NOPE not me. I am in Sioux Falls not whatever that other is. Just go to Your Best Address.
vehicle inspection in TX is just to make sure the lights work. Not a big deal at all and only $7. There will be a lot of people leaving SD due to remote work requirements. Thanks for hte comment and watching.
Property taxes support local government. I was wondering if these people and companies were paying their fair share. How can you domicile, your company pays no unemployment, then you file and get it,? The state is getting screwed. You also need to pay the state income tax somewhere unless you live in a state that has no state tax. I can guarantee that if you moved to Florida, DeSantis would find a way to get the money. This is like an employer bringing in a machine. Sooner or later, they are going to tax the machine or program that eliminates employees. I cannot feel sorry for this guy. I pay by the rules. You should also. Too bad. That is thousands of dollars you are stealing from other people who pays the taxes.
@@OurRoadLessTraveled You're just a scammer whining that the particular scam stopped working for you. If your rig catches on fire, the other 49 states should just let it burn. In fact, SD should also, because it doesn't sound like you contribute to them in any serious way, either. They just took a little bit of your money, to let you leech off the taxpayers of the other 49 states, to give other states the finger. Just "traveling" around like a shell game doesn't mean you shouldn't pay taxes to any of the places where you actually spend your time, and actually generate the income. In fact, in a perfect world, it would get divided up and paid to ALL of the places where you actually do the work. Pretending you're living nowhere and working nowhere, or in some income-tax-free place you're actually not (whether that is SD, TX, or Mars) is stealing money from everyone who DOES pay taxes where they live and work. "I don't live in any one place, and don't use government services anywhere, I just travel around like a ghost and shouldn't pay state income tax anywhere" is total BS. You drive on state roads, you are protected by state and local police, local fire departments, ambulance squads, and hospitals where the government and taxpayers pay the tab if you end up in an ER there unable to pay. You have access to state courts if someone rips you off. You'd find one state or another to protect your rights if your employer treats you illegally. And you want all of this for free in all 50 states, because you find a state and county with loose laws and an accommodating clerk? Grow up and pay your share of taxes. I live in a state with no income tax. But that causes property tax and other costs to be high, so it all comes out in the wash. Very different from claiming that you're paying property taxes via RV park charges, when in fact, a lot of those are in states that get most of their revenue from income tax, so the property tax you are "paying" is negligible. If you only spent time in states with no income tax, and RV parks were heavily taxed, maybe you'd have a slight argument that you're paying something. But I bet you gravitate to places with nice services compliments of state income taxes paid by everyone but you. I laughed my ass off at one of the commenters who complained that most of the work he does, is for NY and CA corporations, "commie states". Then don't work for the rich, highly educated, high tax states, just work for companies in poor, uneducated states instead. See how that goes.
they did not have a mail forwarding service and SD is banning ALL PMB addresses for using with tax documents. We have two other videos that go into great details about it all. The third, we included the documented proof.
i hope it is still good for non workers. as soon i will have to get out of cal. i stay here for now to care for my mother. and i am two different “clubs”. taxes and raising utility rates are out of control here. if taxes go up much more i will not be-able to afford my home.
Would you like some cheese with that whine? I'll give you a hint. You're not rich enough to avoid taxes forever. Who do you think you are, GE? They save billions by gaming the system, so it's worth it. You save thousands, and have to continually take risks, be hassled, worry what change will whack you next, etc. It's almost a fulltime job to beat the system. Time is money. Just pick a more honest domicile where you actually spend a lot of time. Pay up on state taxes and unemployment either there or in your employer's state, and enjoy life. Getting an ulcer trying to beat the system, is a strange option to choose. There is a lot of crap you have to fix or change, every time you change domicile. Don't you have better things to do? Going from using one popular RV-domicile-scam state, to using another, is not a brilliant move. The USA doesn't yet have a good method of dealing with nomads, which is an actual problem. Don't make it worse by always choosing the most popular, scammiest option. Pick a state to create actual connections to, and spend a lot of actual time there, at least until all your logistics are in order. Domicile, residential address, voter registration, RealID driver's license, state and federal taxes, unemployment, addresses on bank accounts, vehicle titles/registration/insurance, KYC qualification for getting new bank accounts and new cell phone service if you ever need it, and everything else. Once you have a bunch of that done, it makes the rest of it easier. When you need two things from Column A and two things from Column B, to get something else (car loan, mortgage, investment account, gun permit, professional license, business bank account, security clearance, CDL, health insurance, or whatever). An address that shows up for 5000 people, has some real drawbacks. Find a way to use a real residential address, and you won't get hassled like the entire 'PO Box domicile of the year club" crowd. Maybe start by putting a relative's electric bill in your name, and paying it for them. Oh wait, I forgot, you want to keep all of your money for yourself. Well, good luck with that.
You know, I'm not even mad you posted such a rude comment. I'm irritated and feel sorry for you. Why on earth would comment on something you have no understanding of and zero comprehension. the fact is NOBODY pays state income tax ins SD. That is why we moved there. We still pay federal income tax. All you have done is spend a bunch of time proving you have zero understanding of payroll taxes in the US. if you would like to educate yourself, and it may actually help you, watch our follow up video. Then if you want to have a valid conversation let me know. I actually send you my phone number so we can talk. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_sUe5gbWsj8.htmlsi=KFP9gLzZSaKiLKsT
I may not be fully understanding this, but since you physically are living there, seem like a civil case to force them to recognize your residency. Might want to look into civil law regarding homeless people's rights.
Hi. Did you take down your part II of the video about this South Dakota debacle? I tried clicking through but it says it's now private. It used to be at this URL: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DVWuvYQErd4.html >> The South Dakota Department of Labor and Regulation contacted my employer and said they (the Dept of Labor & Regulation) are going to go back retroactively (all the way back to 2018) and refund the unemployment taxes that my company paid to them, and that both my company and I must now file amended returns (in California, of all places). Have you heard of this kind of retroactive action?
yes, we made the video private, but just changed it to public again. It is really messing with our channel ranking, steering it away form what we designed it to do. After your comment, I realized there are people out there looking for the information. The best thing you can do is check with your company and see if they have offices in TX or FL. If they do, change everything to one of those states via Escapees as soon as possible. The unemployment tax is not that big a deal, the back state income tax is going to be a whopper. Unless you can prove that you did not live in CA they will come after you as well. If you did not live in CA then you might be able to file an out of state return and request the taxes be sent back to you. I would talk with your HR/accounting and your accountant as soon as possible.
@@OurRoadLessTraveled Thanks so much for replying (and so quickly!). What do you think about their plans to go back and **retroactively** refund back to employers the unemployment taxes going all the way back to 2018 (which is probably how they will avoid paying out on unemployment claims). They told my company that they (my company) would need to file amended returns for this and instead file that unemployment tax with the state where the company is headquartered (which in this case is California). That, of course, would then mean that we would need to file amended returns as well (and I'm guessing pay state income tax to California). Whatever law(s) they are using to suddenly pull these shenanigans, is it a new law, or what it an existing law that they just started interpreting differently? If it *was* a new bill that passed that changed the law, do you know what the bill # was? I get if they're changing the laws going forward, but retroactively? Thanks again!
Taxes are a pain. Having worked 3 to 6 month contracts in multiple states (and overseas), I've played the re-register, re-insure, mult-state tax return gamne for decades. They just have to make it complicated when it really doesn't need to be. As for out-of-state voting, let's see how they handle that when the Democrats decide to give all the illegals the right to vote...
Funny thing is SD is almost 100% red. very few Dems in office. How they let this happen is beyond me. I think they are going to see a lot of people leave the state. I have heard that RV make up 1/3 of box elder voters.
That governor will do nothing for you. I've tried working with her on an issue. She isn't really a governor. No one in Pierre will do anything helpful. They don't want to. I wish I had never moved to South Dakota. It was one of the worst eras of my life. You can't be different there. Don't threaten the status quo with new and fresh ideas. You are a risk if you might not vote the way the controllers want. Outsiders are unwanted, except for the money they spend. When my husband and I were about to marry he wanted to change his name, too, which was too strange for anyone there. They had never heard of a man wanting to change his name and wouldn't allow it. We tried working with the officials in Pierre for weeks, without success. We finally crossed the state line into Minnesota and had a marriage license in 15 minutes. We changed our wedding location to Minnesota. Short version: Do not relocate to South Dakota. You will regret it in so many ways.
None of this is news... If you work in a state that you don't reside in you pay that state's income taxes... I lived in Iowa, worked across the river in Illinois i pay state taxes to both states. If i don't make that much i get refunded. I owned a rental property in Alabama and lived in Iowa i paid taxes in both states. If it wasn't enough to pass the tax brackets i got refunded. I worked in Arizona and owned property(domiciled) in Alabama i posted both states taxes. You're working people up for nothing with these videos. Stop it.
I agree with you. This is the opposite of that. People who have residency and have domiciled, legally are loosing their tax status in SD because of an address. They live and work in SD but have to pay income tax in state other than SD. Thanks for watching and the comment.
What I'm getting at is this changes nothing for regular work campers... People that domicile in South Dakota that work camp (ie: camp host at a koa in Montana) should always have been paying taxes in Montana. The benefit of domiciling in South Dakota is that you don't have to pay state income tax to them... Since they don't have any. This is where your videos are unclear and causing unnecessary concern for folks. As far as your situation if you're working for a company based in Virginia but "living" in South Dakota, still seems you should've been paying Virginia's income taxes. Just cause you can get on the internet and log in from 1000 miles away doesn't change the fact that you're technically working in Virginia. I'm no tax pro but you may find that Texas isn't any different. You weren't ever "exempt" from any taxes in South Dakota. They just don't have any state income tax... Which is the benefit of the domicile capability there. I'm also not trying to be a troll here, I just want the folks that are worrying about just "moving" there to be calm. There's no need to panic move to another state that may not be the best fit for them.
@JD-vl5yh I agree with you. What SD is saying is that if you live in SD and work for a company out of state, you have to be able to prove the "capability" to physically be in the state to do the work. I agree with them, based on their law. Where the PMB addresses are involved is this. They are virtual addresses, you cant prove that you work from one. That is why they are invalid for tax reasons. Its a big deal as some of the mail services have sold the idea that a PMB address is all you need. It not. We are just shedding light on the issue. Each person needs this information to make an informed decision. We decided to move because Texas was always in the plan for retirement. This just changed our timetable.
So, if I understand this rant correctly, you think it's OK for people with no skin in the SD game to be able to vote, and you also want to bob and weave around the tax laws, and you think you're being mistreated? Unbelievable.
You are correct in that you completely missed the entire reason for the video. SD has a set rule to become a resident. You spent 24 hours in the state and show proof of that stay. At that point you get a DL and pay the tax on your vehicle to get a tag. At that point a person has as much "skin" in the game as any other SD resident. For the department of labor to claim an address is invalid to take advantage of the same no income tax law other residents use, yes, is unfair. Make no mistake the SD department of labor decided we would have to pay tax in VA. Now, with that said, I do understand why, and we moved to TX because of it. Its not a tax dodge any more than you dodging taxes. Its a right of SD residents.
It takes more than shelling out a few bucks for a DL and vehicle registration to become a "real" resident of a state. You're leaving because you don't really care about SD, other than as a tax haven, where it's pleasant to park your rig. I perfectly understand SD's view of the new "residents". Stick around for a few years and maybe you'd like it for more than a tax haven. And, the state didn't kick anybody out...those people, and you, made voluntary decisions based on their own selfish interests. Nothing wrong with that, but don't bad mouth the state for it.@@OurRoadLessTraveled
@@jimnelson7740 First, I never bad mouthed the state, I stated facts. Second, SD did not give us the chance to "stick" around, your loss. Third, spending more money on taxes, in a state that really does not want yo is not a good idea. When was the last time you spent more money on something just to support the seller. We followed the rules of SD to be residence, SD decided to change those and treat us differently. the video was made for those that live and work remotely from an RV. To hlep them avoid paying the vehicle tax, that you loose, when you find out SD really doesnt want you. Its cheaper to go to TX first, who welcomes RVers that still work full time. Rewatch it and the second video. You might actually learn something.
I will tell you as a life long Texas resident we have a great governor that looks out for the residents of Texas and hopefully that mindset will remain but unfortunately we are being overrun by illegal aliens so keep eyes open about which way our conservative values remain
I'm not going to watch a video about you whining. If you have no perm residence in a state you don't get to vote there. Hopefully all states will treat you the same and not let you vote. A road less traveled states volumes, you don't stay anywhere long enough to deserve a vote in a place you don't LIVE!. You are just temps, everywhere.
Hi! You say you work remotely, meaning you work online? I have a SD address with Dakota Post out of Sioux Falls. I also work out of state but not remotely, if by remotely you mean online. I do actual physical work in NJ and pay NJ state tax. My unemployment comes out of NJ, not SD as that’s where my work was performed. Got my mail recently and didn’t get any notification. Hopefully it won’t effect me as I’m not working online. 🖖🏻👍🏻🚐🏍️
@OurRoadLessTraveled whew, I just set up my residency in SD and this video had me very nervous, but Im a traveling electrician so my work is never online. Hopefully this wont affect me
