We NEED MORE of these Lenses! 

The sigma 90mm f2.8 is the pocket 85 you’re looking for - sometimes Adorama sells it brand new for $300. Also, when you use the 90mm in aps-c mode, you actually get a true 135mm fov ;)

These lenses, the Samyang tiny sereis and the Sigma i-Series are the reason I just upgraded to the A7C. Soo much fun to shoot with these tiny lenses

When I want to go as small and light as possible, I go with my a6600 and the 24mm G and 50mm G lenses. Love the tiny lenses. Lots of fun.

Great video! 3:35 I own the Sigma 90mm, f2.8, DG,DN and it is an engineering marvel in my opinion how something that small and compact can give the kind of reach and sharpness across the frame that it offers. With lens corrections off there is pin cushion distortion but that goes away completely with no loss in quality at all when turned on. It is a marvelous lens with it’s clicky aperture ring and AF/MF button. It has a lot going for it and everything it offers bends the senses. Really happy with this lens.

I too love tiny lens! The biggest challenge with focal lengths less than 50mm (i.e 16-40 mm) is keeping good sharpness with minimal barrel distortion, which is introduced with shorter barrel lengths. There are compact lens out there but many need that extra barrel length and diameter to control distortion. Case in point is the Sony 20mm, G, f1.8 and the 24mm, f1.4, GM. These lenses are renown for having no to almost no distortion but achieve it with longer barrel lengths and larger diameter. The Sigma, 17mm, F4, DG DN (1:49) and Sony, 24mm, f2.8, G are tiny and compact but notoriously have Mad barrel distortion without lens corrections. These lenses are designed to work with the cameras lens correction feature to return a “truer” image , but does it at the expense of stretching and reducing sharpness in the corners of an image, (some won’t find this important, some will). I considered buying both these lenses but couldn’t get past the distortion and at least for the 24mm opted for the larger 24mm, F1.4, GM. For that setup at 0:33, I went with the Non pocketable one!

Samyang 24mm f/1.8 has been my everyday lens for the last year. 230 grams, with f/1.8! Anybody who loves this sort of lenses, I'd suggest a take a look at Samyang.

Well, as an astrophotographer myself, I've been shooting with primes exclusively, but there is a time and place for everything, and today, lenses are so well made that even "cheap" ones are good. I started using the Samyang 24 F 1.8 recently and it's been a blast. Going from lenses around 700gr to 1kg, to 260gr. I mean.... JUST WTF.

Yes definitely need more smaller lenses. My favourite lens for my first camera was the Panasonic 20mm F/1.7 (40mm equiv) on the Olympus OMD EM10. It was a great travel combo. And the Oly 45mm F/1.8 (90mm equiv) was stellar. Wish we could get similar for FF. My favourite with Sony has been the A6000 with the underrated FE 28mm F2 (equiv 42mm) as a nearly pocketable walk around combo.

The Tamron primes are also super small and super light. Their focus won't be the fastest or quietest but they have really good image quality and can do 1:2 macro photos. Their 35mm offering has a very similar lens hood to the one you were describing as well, where you can attach a filter to the end of it.

It's not super small, but the Sony 20-70 f/4 G is really light and is my everyday lens.

Hey Jason! You are definitely not vong about this one. I have bought a lot of lenses over the years, but the one I keep going back to again and again is the 24 mm f2.8 super compact little lens. It's so much fun to shoot with and even though it's a little tight, I find vlogging on it a lot better than the bigger lenses because my arm doesn't hurt after holding my camera up for a while. The 24, 40, and 50 compact lenses came out after the original A7C released. My hope is now that we have the A7CII and the A7CR there are more of these lenses on the way!!!

I wanted a "second light primes setup" to 1/ serve in case of problem with the BIG setup (20 1.8 G / 35 1.4 GM / 85 1.4 Sigma) on a wedding and 2/ be my new setup for personal use and especially travelling. The idea was to try first the 90 2.8 from Sigma (the one you almost forgot Jason ;) )... and in the end, the same day, I bought the Sigma Trinity : 17 / 35 (f2) and 90mm :) They're so light and so compact, I love them !! I brought them with me last week in Copenhagen, can't wait to see the results on my big screen ! Next time, they're going to Japan :)

2:22 Thanks for noting the filter thread feature provided on the lens hood of the Sony compact (24,40,50mm) trio of lenses. I have the 50mm, which I think is the best of the bunch but did not know this, as I bought it used and it didn’t come with the hood. Keeping the filter on the hood and easily twisting on and off is a great behavioral tip!

Spot-on, Jason! Also: I own the Sigma 90/2.8 and it is a joy.

The samyang 75 and the youngou 85 1.8 are pretty compact. I’ve got the 85 and I carry 35/85, love em

I just got a fe28 f2 to pair with my zv-e1, and this combo is almost perfect. It’s a little longer then the G trilogy, but it offers bright f2 aperture and delivering solid results, considering the price it’s an absolute steal.

The Peak Design Cuff is a great addition so your compact rig has compact security ❤

I know I’m a little late, but the Viltrox 20mm f2.8 fits the description and costs around 150-160 usd. It’s crazy good for the price! It’s a full frame lens too, so it’s great for both FF and APS-C as a 30mm lens.

Love the 40mm on A7c. Even on my A9ii.

I've done a ton of walk-through photography videos with the 40m f2.5g lens and it's my favorite. A super popular lens.

Sony E-mount seriously need more pancake lenses.

While not as premium feeling/feature rich as the compact sony G lenses, Samyang's Tiny series are a great fit for the A7C bodies and offers apertures on some focal ranges you can't get elsewhere on AF e-mount lenses. My 2 favorite so far is the 24mm f 1.8 and 45mm f 1.8 F 1.8 lenses are that almost perfect balance between speed size and price imo.

I bought the 24 and 40 with the original a7c. Wasn’t happy with the evf so I sold it. Waited around for the a7cii. And it’s definitely my favorite setup for compact shooting. Goes great with 3L peak design sling. Paired with the osmo pocket 3 and you’ve got everything you need!

I would take the 55mm F1.8 over the 50mm F2.5. The 24mm F2.8 pocket size version great. If I had to pair 2 lenses for an event the 55mm F1.8 with the 24mm F2.8.

Got the 40mm and I love it.

Got the A7CR and I need lenses that are more compact when carrying it around! To make it more fun to take around and shoot

The Zeiss 35 2.8 has always been a sleeper. More pancakes please!!! 🥞

I do this with the Sony 85/1.8 and 35/1.8. Not as pocketable as Jason’s set up but plenty small and I get a consistent f/1.8.

So glad to see this video you’ve done! Bought a 2nd hand a7C and paired it with the 40mm f/2.5. What a combo! Currently not even thinking about getting any other lenses because this compactness is hard to reach and in my eyes it’s the best street photography set. Tempted for the sigma 90 2.8 but I’m holding for now!

Thank you!! More of these lenses please!

Tamron 35mm 2.8 macro is kinda chunky, but light and has filter thread on a lens hood..and it is crazy cheap..also pixel sharp even wide open at f2.8 (On my 42MP A7RII)

Samyang 35mm f2.8 is my go to lens for my A7c period

How about the Samyang 75mm 1.8 as an alternative to the 85mm? My setup is an A7C with the Samyang 18mm 2.8, 35mm 1.8 and the 75mm 1.8 all packed in the Peak Design 3l Sling. The 35mm and 75mm are great lenses, the 18mm is not bad but not great. But ultrawide I shoot the least, so it’s ok for me. Been thinking about replacing it with a 24mm, because I always struggle with composition with a lens as wide as 18mm.

I, as many people, don't like 2.8 mid range primes, so Samyang 45/1.8 for me is still the king of small, light, perfect fov between 35 and 50/55, af, bokeh and under f/2 at 160g. Looks cheap, far from G body, but works years like new, mine seems particularly unkillable ;) People like metal lenses like that small Sigma line, but once you bump it enough, some plastic flex is what I want. Next their 24/1.8 from the same Tiny line, if one doesn't need the GM, this one is the 24 to get. I don't like that the Sigma 17 is f/4, the Samyang has nice enough 18/2.8 at 145g and there's new very cheap Viltrox 20/2.8 and Tamron 20/2.8 is also fine. And Sony 11/1.8 aps-c is so small and sharp, still often better to shoot with that cropped at 16mm than f/4 ff. And it covers like 1.2x crop of ff too, great for wide hand held FF vlogging with active stabilization and around 1.1x crop on that. Also Samyang 75/1.8 is worth mentioning, by far smallest short 1.8 tele at 230g, almost pocketable '85'.

what about Samyang V-AF 75 mm T/1,9 it is quite cheap, fast aperture 1.8 and only 280 g and 7,2 cm

samyang 18mm f2.8 fe ~ and when i need a stop of extra light, the sony 28 f2. both are

For me, going light means taking only the camera with the lens on it. No second lens, nothing else. Sony A7 with the 40mm f2.5 is my go to choice.

Another pocketable wide angle lens is the new Viltrox 20mm f/2.8 AF. It's currently available for Sony E-mount. It's 65 x 59.5 mm, and weighs 5.5 oz. 52mm filter thread. Image quality is pretty good, especially for a $158 full-frame autofocus lens. Lately, I've been using it more than my Sigma 24mm f/1.4 Art lens. The Samyang 75mm f/1.8 is just 65 x 69 mm and only 8.11 oz. At $289.95, it's pretty budget-friendly. @DustinAbbottTWI is a fan of the lens, for its image quality. It's not an 85mm f/1.4 G-master, but at less than a third of the weight and a fifth of the cost of the GM, it's a lot easier on both your back and your budget. Pair the Viltrox and Samyang with a Sony a7C II or a7CR, and you're still under 2 pounds.

Your criteria for a good pocket lens is spot on. So says I who loves his brass m mount lenses. 😂

You are speaking my language Vong! Just got hooked on the compact Gs a few months ago and love them. Really hope Sony doesn’t drop this line and give us a that 85 compact beauty.

85 and a 16 with the same size as the new Sony g lenses would be amazing! I own the 24 and 50

Love my A7R5 but it was really nice getting the chance to use a Leica Q3 for our 3wk Europe trip… really enjoyed the lighter more compact camera while still getting those 60mp images

Sigma line of F2 primes are great. Really hope they move these to Nikon and Canon mount too..

Could’nt agree more. I love these compact full frame lenses. ❤

or Samyang V-AF 100 mm T/2,3

My Samyang 75mm f1.8 might be your answer. I also strongly prefer compact lenses, and I pair that lens with the Sony Zeiss 35mm f2.8 and Voigtlander 40mm f1.2

Slightly larger than your wish list but the Samyang V-AF series are gorgeous for lightweight travel. Sony 10-20mm PZ too.

All the best to you, Jason and your wife. Year of dragon is coming, fingers crossed for you guys.

No love for the 28-60? Come at me bro 😅

Sigma 90mm f2.8 is phenomenal

The 40mm f2 nikon on my Zf is amazingly lightweight combo. Admittedly i don't like the plastic mount, but for 239 pounds here in the UK you can't go wrong 😊

*My Sony 11mm f1.4 and Kit lens 16-50mm, but I'll use the 11mm all the time*

The 6700 paired with the Sony 24 1.8 ZA is perfect.

just the video we needed

Is that a compact lens in your pocket or are you glad to see me?

I'm a big fan of the Rokinon/Samyang 75mm f/1.8.

Totally on board with this way of shooting. Currently have the 24, 40, 50 G and the Samyang 75, and Sigma 90. Hoping for a tiny 135 or longer. May grab the Sigma 17mm. Do have the PZ16-35 and 20-70G when I prefer a zoom. But agree, soo much nice to shoot and carry small gear.

I love all my giant glass for jobs but i ADORE leaving my house with nothing but the 40/2.5 for everyday life and street. It just feels so good in the hand.

I've been waiting forever for an 18(or 16)mm pancake lens for vlogging!!

I do the same thing, my a7cii+ 50mm 1.8 in one pocket, and the 20mm1.8g in the other

Love the disposable in the background!

I need these in my life

Ngl I’d be down for this to bring pocket lenses. All I need to do is “downgrade” my IV to the A7cii and I’m set lol.

Jason love your channel. You and Vivian inspire me. I just got the Sony A7Cr and the 24mm compact for Christmas. Looking forward to trying it.

85 1.8 fits jacket pocket for sure

I got Nikon z 40mm f2.. Very compact n pocketable.. Next I hope 105mm with similar size would be great..

The viltrox 20mm AF definitely also meets this criteria! Not weather sealed but its great on every other front

I could do with a 28mm and a 35mm f2.5 G.

Ssigma 90 f 2.8 is best choice for you Jason hehe

I’m in Japan now and been looking for the 40mm all around and it’s sold out even at the Sony store 😭

Waiting for a 28mm G or GM... Probably never gonna happen though.

A 20mm, 28mm, 35mm, & 75mm would be ideal….. especially that 28mm, a focal length that Sony definitely needs to reboot in their arsenal

Sigma already has a 65mm f/2 compact lens, which is insanely sharp and much better IQ than their 90mm f/2.8. I have Sonys 24 and 40 G lenses, but I still prefer using mostly the 24mm f/1.4 GM lens on my A7CII. Both as 24mm and in APS-C mode as 36mm f/2’ish. I really miss an 85mm compact lens from Sony and I’m fine with a 85mm f/2.5 ultra compact prime G C’mon Sony 🙏🏼😍

10000000000%!!!! the a7cii with the 24 and 40mm G has been just a joy to travel with! looking for that 85mm travel lens... :D

I feel like sony could do with broadening that range of small G lenses, something like a 20, 28 and a lens somewhere between 65-75, but I totally want a 28mm, always wondered what the point of 28 was when there was 24, but the more I've been shooting street the more i find 24 too wide, and 35 too close and realising that 28mm seems to be what a lot of "street" compacts use, so it'd be nice if we had a 28mm that wasn't an ancient zeiss design one.

Great job on the video Jason! Thanks for making it.

Oh boy, oh boy - I am afraid you could end up with a Leica M in a year or so... pocketability pushed to the extreme and highly addictive 😁 Jokes aside, I totally love your videos Jason 💯 Cheers from Germany

I want a telephoto between 80 and 100 in that size. 😅

Viltrox 20mm F2.8, the infamous but flexible for outdoor 28-60mm, and the 35mm or 55mm f1.8 is my to go kit

im glad to have 18-50 f2.8 sigma and Zv E 10 lol.

Samyang “tiny” series is good too.

Great set Jasom. A modern fast 28 would be golden

That ending 😂🎉

I’ve got the 24mm on the ZVE1. Whist I prefer my 20mm F1.8, it’s great when you want small, light and unobtrusive.

TTArtisan 27mm f2.8 for apsc, samyang 24/35mm f2.8 for FF. 17mm f4 was a surprise for me. I look at price and apsc combi though, as I look at heavy, pricy alternative. Kit lens still leads for AF with multiple FoV, but 2x faster f2 or 4x faster f0.95 will be worth the size.

Love my Fuji X-E4 with 18mm F2. I hope Fuji wil make an X-E5 with IBIS though ;-)

This is why I often fall back to my tamron 28-200mm

Agreed.

Just got the viltrox 20mm 2.8 myself. For the size and price i paid ($152) , it's a no brainer. Cheap and small enough for me to put it on my a7iii and bring it everywhere.

Good morning!

Also look at the Viltrox 20mm F2.8. Full Frame lens with good AF, small and light (157g) for just US$158.00.

Still waiting for the compact 16mm F2.8 😅 When Sony?!

I've been noticing a lot of your recent videos featuring the cii, How are you liking it?

Waiting your review for sigma 90mm

I am still waiting for a Sony APS-C lens, OSS, f/1.8, 23 or 27mm. It would be compact, lightweight, very much like their 35mm f/1.8 OSS. Sony? You follow Jason don't you?

Absolutely! In my recent trip to Japan, I used the 24F2.8G with the Zeiss 55F1.8. I also just bought the 40F2.5G as well! I am contemplating the Sigma 90mmF2.8 i lens as well. To have a span from 24mm to 90mm. Wish Sony would make more of the muffin style G series lens!

I know Sony made a 24mm version of the G f2.5, but if they made a 28mm G f2.8, I’d buy that in a heart beat!

I've been using the Tamron 20-40mm f2.8 its a little bit more on the bigger side but its still jacket pocketable

if I can walk around all day with my Tamron 28-200, then when the sun goes down switch to the 50mm 1.8 and put the 28-200 back in the same jacket pocket - it's pocketable. :D I use my soft cloth bag from some MX goggles to protect the lens in my pocket.

Great ending