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"WE'RE PANICKING!" JWST Confirms Something's SERIOUSLY WRONG with Our Understanding of the Universe 

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"WE'RE PANICKING!" JWST Confirms Something's SERIOUSLY WRONG with Our Understanding of the Universe. The rate at which the universe expands varies depending on the direction of observation. Recent findings from scientists utilizing the James Webb and Hubble space telescopes confirm that this discrepancy is not attributable to measurement errors.
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@robsin2810
@robsin2810 2 месяца назад
In reality, we know almost nothing.
@techteampxla2950
@techteampxla2950 12 дней назад
Well there are a lot of things you can learn about “ultimate reality” but it’s impossible for us at this evolutionary period to even understand 0.0000000000000001 percent of reality from our observation points. That’s doesn’t mean we give up , means we have a lot to learn.
@jerrypolverino6025
@jerrypolverino6025 2 месяца назад
Nobody is panicking. This is an another exciting wonder of the universe.
@davidwilkes3966
@davidwilkes3966 2 месяца назад
That was my thought. It is an exciting time. It is not often we make discoveries that could totally alter our basic understanding of the universe. And we get to witness it as it is happening.
@jeffreykalb9752
@jeffreykalb9752 2 месяца назад
I think you mean that it is another opportunity for the scientific establishment to milk the taxpayer for research on more useless and untestable theories.
@hundun5604
@hundun5604 2 месяца назад
But, reality doesn't follow a human model. That never happend before. 🤣
@Onefractalsparkofcreation
@Onefractalsparkofcreation Месяц назад
I believe universe is float like lily pads on
@Onefractalsparkofcreation
@Onefractalsparkofcreation Месяц назад
Universes are like lily pads on
@charlespossenriede4827
@charlespossenriede4827 2 месяца назад
How can we run the big bang backwards when we can't see all of the matter that is beyond our observable universe? That would account for a lot more time I would think.
@artscience9981
@artscience9981 2 месяца назад
Good explanation of the conflict between the Webb observations and the standard model. This is why we do experimental science! This kind of conflict is what makes science fun and interesting.
@juddbiggs
@juddbiggs 2 месяца назад
I don't know why they would expect them to agree. Both assume they are measuring the expansion rate. Why should two assumptions agree when they are likely both wrong?
@John-gq7vt
@John-gq7vt 2 месяца назад
Cosmologists panicking over finding something new or unexpected makes sense like a dentist panicking over a patient getting in their chair. IT'S THEIR ENTIRE PURPOSE!!! Do you think they build more powerful/new instruments with the intent of NOT finding anything new? IT'S THE ONLY REASON FOR EVERYTHING THEY DO, IT'S CALLED "LEARNING"!!!
@elonever.2.071
@elonever.2.071 2 месяца назад
Their real intent is to find evidence supporting their suppositions and calculations. JWST turned all that on their heads and they are scrambling because they didn't allow for anything else. Now they are saying the Universe is twice as old as previously thought. If the original age was carefully calculated with proven mathematical formulas how can this happen. I agree that Science is all about learning but you don't strut around for a hundred years saying your theory has it all figured out and disqualify any other options. And then your next telescope proves you all wrong. That is Dogma not Science.
@stephenstone5700
@stephenstone5700 2 месяца назад
Thomas Kuhn in his book, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions describes how, as more anomalies accrue around accepted scientific dogma, there is a fundamental and profound shift and a new paradigm emerges to replace the old one (e.g., earth centered universe) and science takes off anew. I believe the JWST will do this to accepted cosmological dogma.
@elonever.2.071
@elonever.2.071 2 месяца назад
I agree with this and we are seeing one by one the evidence that there is something majorly wrong with the original assumptions and equations to the BB theory.
@thegallantsaint2034
@thegallantsaint2034 2 месяца назад
It was a good book
@allensaunders449
@allensaunders449 2 месяца назад
All these space channels talk about scary, shocking, panic. No reason for anyone to feel that way we are learning things we didn't know before. Let's put away the panic mode that's life. People are fine with discoveries
@andrewrivera4029
@andrewrivera4029 2 месяца назад
It maybe that the reason science isn’t getting the Hubble constant right is because we still can’t explain what 95% of the universe is made of.
@pulsar22
@pulsar22 2 месяца назад
The tired light hypothesis may make dark energy go away. Red shift may no be as accelerating as they thought it was.
@MichaelChristopherSmith
@MichaelChristopherSmith 2 месяца назад
JWST falsifies an expanding universe. Then no hubble constant is needed and there is no hubble tension
@brucephillip6456
@brucephillip6456 2 месяца назад
No, we're not panicking. Yes, people are seriously under educated. Next!
@kicknbeetz
@kicknbeetz 2 месяца назад
I hope that whatever replaces the standard model will actually makes some sense. The standard model stops making sense from T 0.000, the exact supposed beginning of it. It has always annoyed me at how cavalier scientists are in talking about the big bang as though it's as fact as 1 + 1. It's so silly, I imagine it like one guy said "Hey, how did all this stuff get here?", then another half jokingly said "I know, there was a sudden explosion from nothing and everything just suddenly was."....then all these genius scientists looked at that second guy for a moment, then all looked at each other and said "That's brilliant!!!!"
@galenhaugh3158
@galenhaugh3158 2 месяца назад
They simply don't know so they substitute magic for science.
@MichaelThompson-jq3zf
@MichaelThompson-jq3zf 27 дней назад
​​@@galenhaugh3158 Bible Creation believers know as the Creator of all things visible & invisible told us in Genesis how the universe came to be. Read the Bible ?.?
@scottmerrow7617
@scottmerrow7617 2 месяца назад
Space may be the final frontier...
@elonever.2.071
@elonever.2.071 2 месяца назад
I would say anytime you have a fudge factor (dark energy & dark matter) that is 19 times more than the sum you arrived at is a pretty good indication that your calculations need some revisions.
@michaelbeaver4650
@michaelbeaver4650 2 месяца назад
So all matter was in a singularity before the big bang. A black hole is formed by a singularity. Do black holes explode? How could an infinitely dense singularity expand or explode?
@elonever.2.071
@elonever.2.071 2 месяца назад
Only through he magic of science theory. And it needs to expand or explode without an outside force acting on it. The BB breaks all the laws of physics as we know and trust them.
@thegallantsaint2034
@thegallantsaint2034 2 месяца назад
Well presented. This channel will go far. 👍
@imshadi
@imshadi 2 месяца назад
The most astounding discoveries in science always break our previous ideas of it. I feel like a great theoretical discovery will follow!
@ianfirth33
@ianfirth33 2 месяца назад
Science is amazing, our understanding has been inadequate so we need to develop new ideas.
@heathermichael3987
@heathermichael3987 2 месяца назад
So let me understand this everything else can evolve but the scientists thinking can’t evolve.
@elonever.2.071
@elonever.2.071 2 месяца назад
Not if you want to keep your job and funding.
@louisgiokas2206
@louisgiokas2206 2 месяца назад
@@elonever.2.071 Precisely. To evolve you have to call into question the theories of "icons" of the scientific community. I forget who the big one is, but the impression I get is that no one wants to question his theories. Of course, we constantly question Einstein's theories. Guess what? Whenever they are tested, they pass the test. Yet, we still question his theories. Science is broken.
@danielrawlins1036
@danielrawlins1036 2 месяца назад
I am confused and l need serious help. If the universe is expanding, then two neighbouring galaxies ought to be moving away from each other by my logic. So how am l to accept that the milky way and andromeda galaxies are on a collision path? Please tell me what it is l do not understand.
@myroc1
@myroc1 2 месяца назад
I only did some googling, but it seems like gravity alters their course.
@everettwalker9141
@everettwalker9141 2 месяца назад
What about all the constellations out there? They still look like they did since man named them . If the universe was expanding wouldn't they be spreading apart ?
@MichaelChristopherSmith
@MichaelChristopherSmith 2 месяца назад
The solution is simple: the universe is not expanding.
@slaapjynog2630
@slaapjynog2630 Месяц назад
The new model will prove gravity is faster than light.
@johnsullivan2449
@johnsullivan2449 Месяц назад
The ‘Big Bang theory’ seems to be fizzling out before our eyes. Has astronomy reached its chronological limits. Maybe it’s time to spend all those costly resources on the things that are known rather than unknown.
@davidhine619
@davidhine619 6 дней назад
Hi, please comment on the little Hubble Constant "fixing" geometry based equation 2 X one Mpc X C, divided by Pi to the power of 21 = 71k/s/Mpc. Regards, David Hine
@philipkershaw7918
@philipkershaw7918 2 месяца назад
What panics me is the realisation that this otherwise reasonable presentation on cosmology has to stoop to such hyperbolic, tabloid like headlines as "WE'RE PANICING!" to be able to attract a readership. We do indeed live in strange times.
@Jokers_Yugioh666
@Jokers_Yugioh666 2 месяца назад
Other life is hideing in the astral realm you didn't get this from me 👀👀
@aumnaad
@aumnaad 2 месяца назад
Why is the universe ovoid [egg shaped] when shown as cosmic MW background radiation? Why did it not evolve as a round ball with equal expansion all around? And is blue color representing the hottest in the middle of the egg?
@thekingofmojacar5333
@thekingofmojacar5333 2 месяца назад
Thanks "Territory", a very interesting topic and video, but panicking... why panic? 😊 Everything moves, our beloved home planet with 107000 km/h, our solar system moves at 800000 km/h and finally our galaxy moves with 2 million km/h in space... When I am thinking now in the Hubble expansion, in what way can the expansion speed influence the orbits of our planet and our solar system and, above all, can this so-called dark energy force also influence the orbits of our galaxy or even galaxy cluster? As a summary of my thoughts... I suspect that we need to change our understanding of expansion in some ways, there simply has to be a common denominator to all of these previously mentioned movements and speeds, a force that we probably don't yet fully understand... 🛶☄
@melissarobinson5189
@melissarobinson5189 2 месяца назад
What I’m most shocked about is seeing that half of the people making comments here cannot spell simple words correctly nor form a grammatically correct sentence! Unbelievable!
@davidpearson2590
@davidpearson2590 2 месяца назад
New chalk new blackboard and some monkeys
@darrellparrott4264
@darrellparrott4264 2 месяца назад
The old solid state universe idea may be right .
@elonever.2.071
@elonever.2.071 2 месяца назад
That or the Universe is a conscious construct. Max Planck eluded to this in one of his more famous quotes that you cannot get behind consciousness.
@pjber
@pjber 2 месяца назад
There is nothing wrong with the standard model, it is only being refined with new data.
@blackholeentry3489
@blackholeentry3489 2 месяца назад
So, WHO'S Panicking? As a lifetime astronomer, it is what it is....we CANNOT change it so just accept it! Now, where did I put that apricot pie?
@DrMJT
@DrMJT 2 месяца назад
Panicking! Oh My... quick, Run out (UP) into the universe and 'sort it out' before it causes serious problems... Because as a human, a snap of fingers can change the fundamental functions of the entire known and unknown universes. LOL
@ioanbota9397
@ioanbota9397 2 месяца назад
Its interestyng this video
@efeocampo
@efeocampo 2 месяца назад
The Multiverse, Eternal and Infinite, is the true and only God! Not an extremely low level human-like God. A "Multi"verse (Set of Universes) remains a SINGLE UNIVERSE composed of multiple universes (like ours, which could be inside a Black Hole), ETERNAL and INFINITE that is continuously TRANSFORMED and manifests itself in many different, infinite ways, whatever they are called: Human beings, Animals, Rocks, Water, Fire, Air, Planets, Asteroids, Suns, Stars, Galaxies, Clusters (of Galaxies), Quasars, Black Holes, Dark Matter, Singularities, etc... The Universe or Multiverse only transforms: It is PURE ENERGY... Remember Einstein's proven equation: E = mc2, which shows that E, Energy, is the same as mass (or what we believe is matter) multiplied by the square of the speed of light, a very large number. Or put another way, what we believe to be "matter", what we can "touch" is actually PURE ENERGY CONNECTED with the rest of the Universe or Multiverse. If you think you "touch" matter, use an increasingly powerful microscope: Body, cells, molecules and atoms... And do you think you can see or "touch" an atom? NO ! It has subparticles: Electrons, protons, neutrons... And do you think you can see or "touch" them? NO ! They are elusive, because they are PURE ENERGY! It is impossible to prove it because it is far beyond our limited intellectual and technological capabilities, but it does not make sense that the Multiverse has a Beginning or an End in time... or any physical LIMIT. What can lie BEYOND the "physical limit" of the Multiverse? Well, ANOTHER Universe. That is, we would be facing a new Multiverse. And what could have existed BEFORE the BIG BANG? Well, another Universe or Multiverse... And once ours cools down (which is what is happening with ALL the stars burning their nuclear energy source) and maybe it WILL COLLAPSE into a SINGULARITY or Black Hole and then maybe (Who could prove it? or refute it?) gives rise to another Big Bang. That is, our Universe is... ETERNAL And most importantly: That Universe or Multiverse is... GOD! A God who does not reward, punish or monitor anyone. That he does not condemn anyone to suffer eternally in "hell" (which does not exist!). Which is not concerned about anyone, much less these imperfect human beings, absolutely insignificant: INSIGNIFICANT for the Earth, in turn insignificant for the Solar System, this one for the Milky Way, totally insignificant for a Cluster of Galaxies, and this Cluster, insignificant for the known Universe and this perhaps, for a Multiverse, which is the most likely "thing" that exists. So, forget all those fears that you learned since you were a child and... ENJOY your life!
@johnqdoe8841
@johnqdoe8841 2 месяца назад
One that may ....dare I say it? be GOD
@scotlanddaytrips6397
@scotlanddaytrips6397 2 месяца назад
The Big Bang is the greatest faux pas in the history of science. In a universe of gravitational fields, everything coalesces into a 'Great Body', and the galaxies all accelerate towards this Great Body. Look in the direction of the Great Body, and galaxies will be redshifted, and the redshift will be higher the closer they get to the Great Body. The same thing will be seen if you look in the opposite direction. The redshift values for a given distance will be highest in these two directions. If you look at galaxies in a direction right, left, up or down from this line, galaxies at a similar distance from the observer as the ones on the line will have a lower redshift, due to the fact that they are not as strongly influenced by the gravity of the Great Body (being further away from it). That which we call 'the universe' is a finite system, and just as there are billions of galaxies that make up this 'finite universe', there are probably billions of finite universes. The question arises as to what exists between these finite universes. It can only be a hydrogen field, since galaxies cannot condense out of nothingness. Therefore, the CMBR is the temperature of the hydrogen field, and the inhomogeneities detected within it are simply density fluctuations. And, quasar redshifts are mainly due to light being 'stretched' by the immensely strong gravity of these objects, with a minor component caused by recessional velocity. Current theories of gravity beyond the event horizon are wrong. Einstein, himself, said that relativity theory breaks down beyond the event horizon.
@gobstoppa1633
@gobstoppa1633 2 месяца назад
in an infinate universe its rediculous and pathetic to theories about what we will never ever know , BUT this is exactley what science has done since day one AND EXACTLEY WHY ALL OF THEIR THEORIES WILL BE PROVED WRONG OBVIOUSLY. ""
@atlantianson515
@atlantianson515 2 месяца назад
OMG!!! The universe is expanding faster than previously thought. That means that: there's no danger to Earth, live will continue on our planet, there is nothing to panic about, and attempting to figure how to permanently leave this planet because we are in NO danger, will be futile. Can you say CLICK BAIT?
@1tonyboat
@1tonyboat 2 месяца назад
For all we know the Universe could be the size of a pin head ,,,,who would know ....
@stephenconnell2689
@stephenconnell2689 2 месяца назад
His Majesty knows no rival ❤
@voyager4328
@voyager4328 2 месяца назад
Who? , King Charles in the UK...
@mitchellterry1050
@mitchellterry1050 2 месяца назад
what did stop inflation after the big bang
@1tonyboat
@1tonyboat 2 месяца назад
The cost of living 👍👍🤣🤣
@galenhaugh3158
@galenhaugh3158 2 месяца назад
If the universe isn't real, then neither are you real or serious. Bye!!
@JungleJargon
@JungleJargon 2 месяца назад
I have an exciting old theory that is now an observation. There is no need to modify gravity. Less gravity accelerates time and inflates distance both of which accelerate causation making everything move faster including lightspeed while maintaining the speed of light 186,000 miles per second. The concept is so simple at least for mechanically minded people. If you change the size of a cubit, you will change the size of the house that you build with it. If instead of driving 60 kilometers an hour you drive 60 miles an hour, you will increase your speed because you increased the distance that you traveled in an hour. Then if you change from 60 miles an hour to 60 miles in half an hour, you increased your speed again because you traveled 60 miles in a faster time. General relativity is no longer a theory, it is an observation. Distance expands with less gravity and time speeds up with less gravity effectively making everything faster including light without breaking the speed of light. The vacuum ("dark") energy is the opposite of inflation. It's now being associated with supermassive black holes that are growing as they absorb spacetime. Dark matter is unnecessary when the effects of the drop off of gravity over great distances is taken into account. Time speeds up outside of galaxies and distance is inflated. Both changes in time and distance result in a much faster causation than where we are inside of a galaxy.
@patrickball2493
@patrickball2493 2 месяца назад
If the universe is not infinite . Then is universe round or flat .
@Bluepeter62
@Bluepeter62 2 месяца назад
A good question. The status of knowledge is that it's flat but there's no 100% proof.
@elonever.2.071
@elonever.2.071 2 месяца назад
@@Bluepeter62 If the BB exploded with equal force in all directions at once how can the result be flat?
@Bluepeter62
@Bluepeter62 2 месяца назад
​@@elonever.2.071Flat in 3 dimensions of space not in 2 like a sheet of paper. Space is curved by mass, but only locally as gravity decreases in short distance. The question is now if the space of the whole universe is curved. Is something out there that influences the shape of the observable universe? It looks like that is not the case, but we need more studies on this question.
@gavinritz6981
@gavinritz6981 2 месяца назад
Nothing amazing about the outcome at all, other than it doesn’t meet the current model or theory. This is science at its best. This is the scientific process that’s why it’s not a belief system. We relook at our epistemological position and change it. This is the awesomeness of science and in contrast to the stupidity and naivety of belief systems.
@MikaKovin
@MikaKovin 2 месяца назад
Uusi malli tarvitaan ehdottomasti . ja pian!
@3RAN7ON
@3RAN7ON 2 месяца назад
If we ever do meet the cosmic community and explain to them our "understanding" of the Universe, I think they will laugh at us; I mean we literally invented dark matter to make our math equations work..
@ready1fire1aim1
@ready1fire1aim1 2 месяца назад
Gotta stop saying "real or not real". There's only zero or nonzero numbers so it's "more real or less real".
@m4rvinmartian
@m4rvinmartian 2 месяца назад
*Is this AI? Lots of errors.*
@padraiggluck2980
@padraiggluck2980 2 месяца назад
CEPH-ee-id causally, not casually
@techteampxla2950
@techteampxla2950 12 дней назад
You believe everything you hear and see as actual fact as a human observer)?
@morgunstyles7253
@morgunstyles7253 2 месяца назад
Was no big bang
@MrRichmiles
@MrRichmiles 2 месяца назад
Wow, thanks! I appreciate your well-reasoned and extremely thorough analysis! All done!
@LoupeWhole
@LoupeWhole 2 месяца назад
I assume you're making that statement based on creation. Have you ever considered that both can be true? Could the Big Bang be the result of God speaking the word of creation?
@morgunstyles7253
@morgunstyles7253 2 месяца назад
@@LoupeWhole sorry. Your assumptions are incorrect. I dont believe in creation in the context of your statement. In other words, i dont believe in some god waved his nonexistent hand and created the universe.
@morgunstyles7253
@morgunstyles7253 2 месяца назад
@@LoupeWhole what the bb doesnt allow for is space itself. They're trying to tell that the bb created everything. Including space itself. Well ok fine. What created the space it banged into? The bb only accounts for the stuff. Not space itself. Not what its in. And if the bb is true, being that space is a vacume so they say, how come we're still not moving at the speed of the bb? Now they say the stuff is speeding up exponentially. Ok fine. What slowed it down to begin with? I thought it was moving away at the speed of the bb. Shouldn't it have continued to move at that speed? Then they say everything is moving away from everything else. At the same time they say we're on a collision course with andromeda. If so, then not everything is moving away from everything else. No two objects moving away from a central point will ever converge. A 9yo knows that. Then they say space is creating itself. From what?Ok fine. I thought you(collective) just said the bb created space. And then, what did it bang into? Nothing? What creating this nothing? And just where was/is this nothing? There is no such thing as nothing. Then they say the visable universe is 13 billion years old. In total some 27 billion years old in total. Ok fine. Universe 13 billion years old. Earth, 4 billion years old. Whos years are they talking about? Being that years is based on the earths movement around our sun. No, i dont believe in "let there be light". Nor do i belive i was ever a monkey. I coud go with, we think, could be, maybe..... But to make definitive statements about the universe when we cant get past the moon...not so much No, i dont know. Dont pretend to know. I dont play someone on TV who thinks they know. But i dont think the bb theory is accurate. Peace
@LoupeWhole
@LoupeWhole 2 месяца назад
@@morgunstyles7253 okay so I'm curious. No creation and no big bang. Then what
@1080KaTa
@1080KaTa 2 месяца назад
།ཅིའི་ཕྱིར།འགའ་ཤས་སྐོར་ལ་དངོས དོན་ཐེ་ཚོམ་ཅན།
@fractalnomics
@fractalnomics 2 месяца назад
I have to answer: the universe is fractal, even if they don't t think so.
@EricH_1983
@EricH_1983 2 месяца назад
I love these clickbait vids
@brucewelty7684
@brucewelty7684 2 месяца назад
There is another reason for red shift. You, SERIOUSLY, need to expand your datamining techniques.
@andreab1144
@andreab1144 2 месяца назад
The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. 2 Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they reveal knowledge. 3 They have no speech, they use no words; no sound is heard from them.
@aperinich
@aperinich 2 месяца назад
We didn't need to wait for JWST. Halton Arp's many observations of quasars in near-field or equidistant with galaxies, with high redshifts - over 35 years ago - already threw the nonsense model of cosmic expansion out the window. He was defunded and cancelled as a reward for his service. Redshift is brought about by more than just recessional velocity, there is redshift that is intrinsic to the light itself and the age of the objects radiating it. Some quotes from Arp's books and peer-reviewed papers below. From "Intrinsic Redshifts in Quasars and Galaxies" "We report a cluster of quasars that has 21 of its members at redshift z = 2.149 within a range of only ±.019. It has an extension across the sky of ≥ 3.2 degrees. At its conventional redshift distance it would have a huge diameter of 249 Mpc. The front and back should reflect the expansion of space of about 13, 700 km/s, but measured velocities within the cluster are only of the order of 1, 000 km/s." From "Observational Cosmology: From High Redshift Galaxies to the Blue Pacific" "Observed: The whole quasar or galaxy is intrinsically redshifted. Objects with the same path length to the observer have much different redshifts and all parts of the object are shifted closely the same amount. Tired light is ruled out and also gravitational red-shifting. The fundamental assumption: Are particle masses constant? The photon emitted in an orbital transition of an electron in an atom can only be redshifted if its mass is initially small. As time goes on the electron communicates with more and more matter within a sphere whose limit is expanding at velocity c. If the masses of electrons increase, emitted photons change from an initially high redshift to a lower redshift with time (see Narlikar and Arp, 19936) Predicted consequences: Quasars are born with high redshift and evolve into galaxies of lower redshift. Near zero mass particles evolve from energy conditions in an active nucleus. (If particle masses have to be created sometime, it seems easier to grow things from a low mass state rather than producing them instantaneously in a finished state.)" Let alone bringing up the CMB.. What a joke - Paris Herouni would be turning in his grave!
@aperinich
@aperinich 2 месяца назад
And get some thermodynamics into ya will ya!?
@aperinich
@aperinich 2 месяца назад
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@dipaoloboat
@dipaoloboat 2 месяца назад
The answer begins at Genesis 1:1
@hinesification
@hinesification 2 месяца назад
No it doesn’t.
@darensylvara7690
@darensylvara7690 2 месяца назад
Stupid begins at genesis 1:1
@Clem.H.Fandango
@Clem.H.Fandango 2 месяца назад
😂
@tc4091
@tc4091 2 месяца назад
God controls the Universe
@dougdieterly9308
@dougdieterly9308 2 месяца назад
Perhaps the reason that all man's theories are being proven wrong by JWST is because God created it? Gen.1:1. 😉
@dipaoloboat
@dipaoloboat 2 месяца назад
Amen
@vovodetna8828
@vovodetna8828 2 месяца назад
No, s/he didn't create it.
@vpsjdon
@vpsjdon 2 месяца назад
There's no such thing unless you have some actual evidence
@dougdieterly9308
@dougdieterly9308 2 месяца назад
@@vpsjdon I can You can't prove there isn't
@vpsjdon
@vpsjdon 2 месяца назад
@@dougdieterly9308 That's not my job. The liability of evidence lies on the person making the claim. YOU are the one claiming there's a deity, so you must prove it. Until you can, there's no such thing a god
@garyhundsrucker7771
@garyhundsrucker7771 2 месяца назад
Ooo, let’s hurry up and go pollute up the fresh new earth!🌍🛢️🛢️🛢️🛢️🛢️
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