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hello hello lil cherubs! in today's video i am re-reading Colleen Hoover's book, November 9, with my good pal ‪@jakethatcher_‬
Jake having never read a Colleen Hoover book, I knew I had to invite him on and read the most problematic book I have read to date. This video was originally supposed to be a video essay on Colleen Hoover books, and the romanticization of abusive relationships, and non-consensual events, but there are so many incredible videos already dissecting the problem with many of miss hoover's books, so instead we are leading you with a bedtime story while we rip it a new one. hope u enjoy! xoxo nikki nasty
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@doodoo240 Год назад

colleen's writing is like rushed wattpad romance with random trauma dumping😭

@3FrogsinTrenchCoat Год назад

Wattpad is better 😭😂

@Aardydarling Год назад

If I close my eyes they’re reading a wattpad story

@Scweetoof Год назад

@@3FrogsinTrenchCoatnah honestly I’ve read (and put down) a good bit of Wattpad stories that had toxic dynamics and juvenile writing, like Colleen!😂

@porcirain9143 Год назад

@@Scweetoofmost of those are written by actual preteens and teenagers you expect those to be juvenile and not have the best understanding of relationships. Colleen’s a grown adult with a husband.

@liapandinha2707 Год назад

Don't you dare compare vomited shit to wattpad At least there we admit the stories are trashy

@kiara616 Год назад

this book should really be classified as horror

@ryle2814 Год назад

Man burns women alive and then emotionally manipulates her for years

@babyeviexo Год назад

i gave this comment the 666th like 💀 enuff said

@GaiaisPupz Год назад

no but actually

@miaaa.mp4 Год назад

it sounds like smut that a thirteen year old would write 💀

@goshenqueen Год назад

I just finished this video and you are totally right. This is horror. And I am so mad at every choice Colleen Hoover made.

@cal1454 Год назад

as someone who has never once read a colleen hoover book and has no biases against her, i am blown away at how popular she is, her writing alone is awful

@cal1454 Год назад

what is even going on in this story i am losing my mind. WHO finds “i was wondering what kind of panties you were wearing” appealing. AND basically “i was smiling because i knew i could take advantage of your insecurities 😏” it somehow keeps getting worse

@ExhaustedRaccoon200 Год назад

True, I was literally screaming at the grammatical errors and the characters being stupid and toxic

@CocoaPuffss Год назад

You should still give 'verity' a try tho. It became one of my favorite books, and I'm picky

@creaturenamedalistair Год назад

that's why she's popular 😭

@L.-I. Год назад

@@CocoaPuffss Isn't "Verity" just a carbon copy of "Rebecca" tho?

@addangel Год назад

portraying the "freeze" panic response as.. sexy and consensual is reaaaaally problematic. She's literally crying and thinking "I want him to stop but I can't find my words" jesus h christ

@varshini6904 Год назад

Ya. And they justify it by saying "Your mouth says no but your body says yes😏" 🤮🤮🤮

@addangel Год назад

@@varshini6904 ew ew ew. that’s just a step from saying “I know you wanted it”. imagine a rape victim reading that.

@varshini6904 Год назад

@@addangel Ikr🤚. It's like shoving an entire cake down someone's throat when they said no and saying your stomach is asking for it (probably not a good analogy). It's vomit inducing.

@ace-of-pentacles-o99 Год назад

fr thats literally SA...

@L.A.M.B_B4 Год назад

@@varshini6904But in this case the cake is being shoved up her privates, and it's not a cake is his sausage so it's 100x worse.

@texasred8424 10 месяцев назад

"her boobs. both of them" i knew that there was a such thing as men writing women but it seems colleen hoover has invented women writing men

@stuartblittley3531 8 месяцев назад

I’M SOBBINF.

@Aszteroth 6 месяцев назад

imagine your writing being so bad texas red had to swing in from hell to say its shit 😭

@UwUImShio 3 месяца назад

Made me think half of her chest is burnt REAL bad, like missing tissue and stuff

@sallylovests Год назад

I used to be jealous of the people who never had a Wattpad phase, but all them turned out to be Colleen Hoover fans, I am now thankful

@foonnotspork Год назад

i never had a wattpad phase and i hate colleen hoover. thank god 😭

@sallylovests Год назад

@@foonnotspork best of both worlds frfr

@eireneemdadian2648 Год назад

i can assure you as a past wattpad girlie that is NOT the case omg i despise her books.

@sallylovests Год назад

@@grecia83 HAHA SAME OMG

@sallylovests Год назад

@@eireneemdadian2648 ...I'm kind of still a Wattpad girlie. JUST A BIT, ITS UNIRONICALLY FUNNY:)

@Natalia-ul6eg Год назад

I literally would not believe half these lines if it wasn't for the text blocks included 😭 need this as a series!!!!

@vomitthrowupandpuke496 Год назад

i had to keep pausing and read it myself i was in shock

@mintyfresh588 Год назад

I thought they were kidding!!

@safi6749 4 месяца назад

Yeah

@TheCCress Месяц назад

Yesss I keep pausing to look like "noowayyyy"

@muchomango11 Год назад

I love how quickly this turned into a fanfic about John Mulaney and Jimmy Fallon

@sarahouillette1357 Год назад

And it is somehow infinitely better than the actual book.

@addangel Год назад

"I'm paying for dinner, so I get to choose what to stare at while we eat." 🤮🤮 girl, run

@divine555 Год назад

I'll take him lol

@thedarkfroggy Год назад

@@divine555 as you can see you are an example of a wild, impressionable coho fan who has been influenced by these books (no offense ment)

@divine555 Год назад

@@thedarkfroggy I'm not influenced, I haven't even read the books, but just from hearing what commentary says there's nothing really questionable in there

@thedarkfroggy Год назад

@@divine555 but sexual assault is pretty questionable right?

@divine555 Год назад

@@thedarkfroggy didn't notice any but if there were that probably would be an issue

@horrorterrorharvey Год назад

the scene in the closet where hes taking off her clothes while shes frozen up panicking and crying actually made me feel physically ill like how the fuck does anyone write that out in the process of making a romance novel and never once realise 'oh wow i sort of just wrote a horrifying sexual assault scenario' i cannot fathom that shit

@Aardydarling Год назад

“Is this ok?” “I don’t know” AND HE CONTINUED ANYWAYS

@peppermint4580 Год назад

Literally, I was just thinking through that entire scene: "Ma'am. You are freezing up and crying, you did not give this man permission to touch you at all, and he's continuing despite your reaction. This is not him being romantic, he's not being caring or selfless, YOU'RE BEING ASSAULTED. CALL THE FBI."

@zuzanna5889 Год назад

no fr and the way he acted so calm abt it made me feel like i was overreacting

@bloodieghostie Год назад

And the fact that this book was supposed to be written by Ben in universe. he simply observed Falon's reaction, he didn't actually know what she was thinking in that moment because _of course he didn't._ all her pov chapters were written by Ben. I haven't seen many people bring up that fact when talking about this book.

@silverdrag0n_ Год назад

eh, i've seen worse on ao3; this is just your average "dead dove: do not eat"-content.

@lyinanaa Год назад

She would be so good at being an episode story writer

@grandpa_the_kid Год назад

YOURE SO RIGHT

@saturnitiez Год назад

EVEN EPISODE WRITERS ARE BETTER THAN HER ON GOD

@Cherry_Blossom.-. Год назад

Dude episode story writer are MUCH better than her trust me

@Cherry_Blossom.-. Год назад

Even the official episode writers write better than her

@Ari-cs3qs Год назад

It would definitely be one of the ones where you have to constantly use diamonds to do anything because those specifically are always so problematic

@jenny5272 Год назад

This might've actually worked really well as a psychological horror/thriller where Ben is a crazy stalker. I mean it's practically what she already wrote.

@rienn8559 Год назад

this would be such a genius psychological horror. im disgusted at every line!

@jenns5007 Год назад

It's no wonder I imagined Penn Badgely as Ben the entire book😂

@zuzanna5889 Год назад

i think colleen hoover’s writing is better for horror tbh like verity which i acc enjoyed

@fallenlucifer Год назад

And it would be from both POV's and it would feel extremely weird to read through yet also extremely cool. Getting into the head of a stalker and possible psychopath while we also follow Fallon being stuck in a weird and toxic relationship before finding out the big reveal and than we either get the bad ending where he makes her stay by force or she actually manages to escape. If only Fallon thought more like a normal person and had normal human feelings, I guess 😔🤚 But actually, jokes aside, it honestly had so much potential to be an amazing horror/thriller, tho 😭

@mikchimin Год назад

I'm genuintely upset it isn't. If this was marketed as a psychological horror/thriller by a good author, I would've picked it up /so/ fast

@yasminenataliaq Год назад

i always knew i would hate colleen and her writing but i didn’t know it was THIS BAD

@nyx..z Год назад

i read verity because my mom liked it… the ENTIRE book read like a wattpad fanfic i was a coleen hoover hater before, but NOTHING could have prepared me for it to be as bad as it was

@zoey398 Год назад

@@nyx..z tbh everyone has said that it's essentially a ripoff of rebecca, idk much about it but even though the plot is still kinda apparently it's better (and the original)

@nyx..z Год назад

@@zoey398 i haven’t read rebecca, but i have heard that too!

@jasper_the_techie Год назад

@@zoey398oh my god I’ve read Rebecca and it is DREADFUL. Literally nothing happened the entire book it sucks. But if anything is based off of Rebecca it’s destined to be a train wreck 💀

@zoey398 Год назад

@@jasper_the_techie okay, i'll read it to form my own opinion because now i've heard it's okay AND it's horrible so at least i know it can't be that good 💀

@deadoctopus Год назад

“Her boobs. Both of them” Is the worst and best line any author has ever written

@roastedsardines Год назад

I came across this comment right as he said it 💀

@sillylli Год назад

as if boobs isn’t plural 😭

@boomyboymadadeel Год назад

like no just one boob even though you specified boobs plural like COME ON 💀

@endyark Год назад

she just actually has 2 pairs of boobs

@Aardydarling Год назад

As if he would only be looking at one of them 🤣

@cy_fyy Год назад

Literally the first page in I was cringing heavily 26:02 “Why would a girl care to find herself when she’ll never be able to make herself feel as good as a guy can?” WHAT? THIS WAS WRITTEN. BY. A. WOMAN?! What a WONDERFUL message to send to your younger fans, CoHo

@blockgirlygamer7714 Год назад

Ok Andrea Tate 😭😭 like???

@cy_fyy Год назад

@@blockgirlygamer7714 CoHo or- me?

@noriii Год назад

@@cy_fyycoho lol

@cy_fyy Год назад

@@noriii LMAO yeah I figured but I 100% read it wrong! 😅

@misamagica Год назад

@@blockgirlygamer7714ANDREA TATE 💀

@MeganJester Год назад

The fact that this man sexualized her scars and wanted to make her “feel better about them” (even if he was misplaced about sexualizing them which is wrong in itself) - NOT BECAUSE HE CARED ABOUT HER BUT BC HE WANTED TO ABSOLVE HIS OWN GUILT

@dqndicore Год назад

It almost feels like he finds pleasure in the fact that he caused her that pain idk its just really disturbing

@turqussy Год назад

he went into her life to cause her more pain because he wanted to feel better for leaving BURNS on a person and proceeds to sexualize the trauma he did to her, like he forced her into his fetish. i have read far better things written by teens on fanfic websites then this shit

@deen7530 Год назад

And she APOLOGIZES TO HIM. This is one of the most infuriating plots I've ever heard of. Christian Grey and Anastasia Steele have a healthier relationship than these two.

@poorsarah Год назад

AND THEYRE 18

@turqussy Год назад

@@poorsarah WHAT ARE YOU BEING SERIOSU

@sourjellies Год назад

18?!! Not me imagining 25 yr olds 😭 this is so entertaining thank you

@trucevideos Год назад

LITERALLY when the book said "we're just eighteen" i was like NO WAYYYYY

@sourjellies Год назад

@@trucevideos my exact reaction ahhah

@rienn8559 Год назад

💀💀💀💀💀💀 18??????????

@blockgirlygamer7714 Год назад

THEY CAN’T EVEN DRINK I-

@viivv6230 11 месяцев назад

@@blockgirlygamer7714literally 😭

@adalinebailey9936 Год назад

This book is actually sick. The way her mother is like "yeah he burned you, but his mom died and we can't blame him for LITERALLY COMMITING A CRIME AND RUINUNG YOUR LIFE. You need to show him some respect. You don't understand what he's gone through." That's so toxic oml. And CoHo is such an influential author that I'm sure some people are actually TAKING THIS ADVICE when it is the opposite of what the mother should be saying.

@roxirock5455 Год назад

Yes, he scared her for life, both fizically and mentally. That is something you shouldn't just brush over. Even if he did it by accident, that doesn't mean she should forgive him. And the fact that Colleen made HER apologize for not leasing to him is the worse thing someone can be sharing to an impressionable audience. The mom is the worse character in my opinion. She acts like Fallon owns respect to that b*ch after all he did to her. Let's count here: he, accidentally, burned her while commiting a crime he never got the punishment for, he stalked her and her father, he sexualized her scars and acted like an ass, telling her what to wear and belittled her for the way she reacts to her trauma, WICH he caused, he LIED to her and ,in the original, r$ped her. His justification for all this is that his mom k$lled herself? Boy I don't care if your hole family died right in front of you, that doesn't justify his behavior. And SHE apologize to HIM??? K*ll me now.

@cumbucha7146 Год назад

Yo?!

@cocothedino_2901 Год назад

its even worse considering the start of the story, he literally dismissed and belittled all the insecurities fears and anxieties HE DIRECTLY CREATED. not only is she expected to just accept the harm hes done to her cuz of his past, the book brushes over the fact that he isnt even sympathetic to the pain he causes her since the beginning

@CocoaPuffss Год назад

People who would react like this in such a situation exists tho. I like it when characters act in a way the majority wouldn't. It shows that the person is an actual individual with their own way of thinking. Every single author making all their characters a cookie cutter version of personalities would be boring

@Lemoncakelover678 Год назад

@@CocoaPuffssthere's characterising your character to be an individual and framing that victims need to forgive their perpetrators because 'oh they suffered too' through the character. If they wanted to characterised the mother as that, they would've tried to Futher expand her character through Fallon instead of being used as a forgiveness tool

@kaibaiarrio1299 Год назад

Dude the scene where the guy is undressing her is genuinely so terrifying. As someone who has experienced s/a (and just general abuse) her response is in no way sexy. Her response says "im genuinely terrified, i do not want this, i dont like this, but i cannot speak, i dont want to make this worse for me", and the fact that he keeps going is fucking scary. How did this woman not realize she was writing a scene of sexual assault

@Tearssssssss Год назад

IM SO GLAD I DIDNT SEE THIS YET

@magicalgirl4 10 месяцев назад

i think she knows and finds it titillating which is just, like, c'mon at least be open about the fact that your book is fucked up and don't say it's a romance

@dotdotdot...176 Год назад

_"Grab my boob, Ben."_ She can't be serious 💀

@user-os3sf1ou8k 5 месяцев назад

Literally lil no girl

@AaliyahCaouette Месяц назад

I DIED when he said that

@TheCCress Месяц назад

Oh it's super serious. It's second base.

@storm.loves.reading Год назад

people who hate her books instantly become my most favorite people ever.

@nefnef.444 Год назад

i really want to read one sometime just for laughs but then i will feel guilty for wasting time and money🫠

@Werasliwa Год назад

SO TRUE 😂❤

@zoey398 Год назад

@@nefnef.444find a pdf online and then you aren't buying the book nor do you own it edit: i can also pretty much guarantee that if your local library carries modern YA then it definitely carries CoHo as well

@australianctzen Год назад

issa green flag

@namkia205 Год назад

Can I become your favorite person? I need friends 😢

@patienceholmes841 Год назад

Me, aged 23, watching RU-vidrs read terrible smut at 4.31am without having slept, unemployed and single. The book: "Most people have their lives figured out by 23"

@pixieinx Год назад

Privileged folks writing outta touch books 🤭

@benwrex6280 Год назад

I'm 37, don't believe the lies!!!! lol

@muchomango11 Год назад

Dude I'm turning 23 in a few months wtf 😭

@springshowers4754 Год назад

Same here lol

@blehsomeguy Год назад

ayo stop calling me out 💀

@quiseccqui7680 Год назад

Romanticizing things like this is the reason why my ex took "I don't know" as a yes.

@Summerstrider Год назад

I’m sorry.

@DarwinRoger893 Год назад

oh god, this is so fucked up. i'm really sorry to hear that.

@entity3810 Год назад

im pretty sure there are far more important factors but ok

@elizabethhand8426 Год назад

holy fuck i’m so sorry

@pokaay3163 Год назад

@@entity3810like what? literally romanticizing creepy behavior and acting like it’s okay and desireable is exactly why SA perps dont feel remorse or guilt when violating their victims, or only after the fact, if at ALL. they feel justified and even validated to do what they do, most likely because of what they grew up learning with the media or people around them.

@MONARCH_FLIES Год назад

Holy shit, girl should’ve left it in the wattpad drafts

@blockgirlygamer7714 Год назад

REALL

@harp9033 Год назад

That’s an insult to Wattpad

@mafuyume 8 месяцев назад

@@harp9033 This is literally meant for Quotev. I cannot tell you how much cringy things I've seen on that website 💀

@jeanette3355 Год назад

BenTon shaming her for not wanting to show her scars, and telling her she’s the reason people feel uncomfortable around her, makes me incredibly angry. As someone who has scars, feeling the need to hide them is already a struggle, and then to have someone making me feel even more ashamed?? I would lose my f*cking mind.

@exoticgingerale9958 Год назад

Dude same. I scar incredibly easily and while I like scars because they tell stories, some of my scars tell stories I don't want to share because well, they're fucked. I would be bolting out of there if someone was saying that bs to me.

@mer_acle8101 Год назад

yeah it's so messed up. My arm is scarred and I have worn long sleeves all summer for the sake of everyone around me. It's my decision, and nobody is allowed to tell me to hide or reveal them. Jesus H Christ I know CoHo doesn't understand the first shit about mental health but some people may find their own scars triggering (I do) It's not anybody's place to tell them to be comfortable. Also it's just flat out wrong. People literally look at you when you're wearing a rainbow shirt. Not because someone doesn't look confident enough, this isn't gradeschool. Confidence doesn't erase the staring, it takes away your discomfort. ofc Benton and by extension CoHo are full of shit anyway so literally just take away her pc

@Kaycee-Bee96 Год назад

yeah,, i dont personally have scars, but ive met people who do and who have been bullied and made to feel ashamed because of it. benton saying that nobody cares or judges her for her scars just feels downright untrue

@noelloveslemmons 8 месяцев назад

First of all, I hope you're doing well. I don't know if you need to hear it, but you have nothing to be ashamed of. Second, THIS WOMEN DID NOT SPEAK TO AN ACTUAL BURN VICTIM. SHE HAS PROBABLY NEVER EVEN MET AN ACTUAL BURN VICTIM. She clearly knows NOTHING about the experience of BEING a burn victim, she just thought it was somehow an attractive and appropriate plot point. I am not a burn victim, and I know that if I wanted to include a burn victim or even just a character with scars in a book, I would do PROPER RESEARCH to be sure my writing does not spread misinformation. I wouldn't want the experience of burn/scarring victims to be neglected or incorrectly portrayed!

@randompromises1038 5 месяцев назад

Majority of my scars are from SH from when I was a kid and for years I would wear sweaters even in summer. This is such a dangerous and asinine mentality to have.

@Sarah_Jeann Год назад

I am BEGGING you to make this a series

@dariaermolenko8986 Год назад

Where do I sign the petition 😂

@teresaalgaraguilar1959 Год назад

Yes please

@Channie99 Год назад

Literally I would pay for this to be a monthly tradition 😭

@Greek_Irene Год назад

Yes 😂😂😂

@ilovemiagoth22 Год назад

LITERALLY

@leafgirl76 Год назад

I'm struggling to understand how this book has a 4/5 on good reads and 92% liked this for Google reviews????????

@rachel5399 Год назад

You and me both. 😭😭

@sittinginacornerihaunt Год назад

I’m confused too babes 💀

@PeterParker-hn8iz Год назад

The people who bother to finish and rate it are its target audience. Everyone else put it down after scanning the first few lines

@teawithtyge Год назад

@@PeterParker-hn8iz why have I never thought of that before lol

@nhizu Год назад

they’re in their wattpad era

@arianamitchell7050 Год назад

will never forget it ends with us being marketed to me on tik tok as a ROMANCE. i went into it so blind and then halfway through he shoves her into the kitchen cabinets, it really shook me i felt so deceived

@Hyunjinsbigcat_ Год назад

It has a fully romantic sub plot (atlas and lily) but yeah it should be marketed as more drama rather than romance

@ch1lds.pl3y Год назад

wait can you explain the plot i think i read that one but i forgot😭

@lakshmirekha9168 Год назад

@@ch1lds.pl3y it’s the one where she meets this hot neurosurgeon dude with anger issues on top of some roof and they get to know each other for a while and he literally BEGS her to have sex with him like a creep (but she somehow liked that) and then they fall in love and elope and then he starts abusing her physically when he gets mad. And there’s this other guy named Atlas who was this homeless boy that she cared for and fell in love with when she was like fifteen, he makes a reappearance in her life now that he’s all successful, neurosurgeon dude finds out about this guy, abuses her some more for it, gets her pregnant, and in the end she divorces him and chooses Atlas coz he’s nice or whatever. This book wasn’t worth all that hype at all!!

@ifyoulikepinacolada254 Год назад

@@lakshmirekha9168 why does this have all the worst possible tropes known to man??

@bunnywavyxx9524 Год назад

@@lakshmirekha9168 LMAO the plot was so unserious. YA Romance authors need to explain why their "romance" involves only sex and no actual romantic chemistry between the protagonists. All Lily and Ryle had was sexual tension, and barely, due to poor writing. Same in Ugly Love (the only other book by her I've read). That's why I'm currently in my historical romance phase lol, there's less of that.

@e_intelligence2487 Год назад

I would love to see Jake’s reaction to “Ugly Love”! Especially the “we both laugh at our son’s big balls” line😭

@pikabwa2001 Год назад

im sorry the WHAT line

@mossdeep Год назад

WHAT?

@na6731 Год назад

lmao I read your comment as "we both laughed at our son's big ugly balls"

@sarahouillette1357 Год назад

* blinks in disbelief * What the actual _hell_

@peppermint4580 Год назад

😨 Excuse me, they laugh at WHAT now?

@kenny6912 Год назад

The plot idea would actually make such a good psychological horror it's such a fucking shame Colleen got to it first 😭

@shanicek5188 Год назад

She always accidentally writes decent psych horror💀

@Viteaification Год назад

fuck it someone can still rework this!

@kenny6912 Год назад

@@Viteaification THIS 🙏🙏

@viivv6230 11 месяцев назад

she’d be such a good horror writer. it’s a shame they’re ‘romance’ novels! they’d be rlly good pyschological horrors, esp layla 🤢😭

@M0ssDem0n 7 месяцев назад

Literally

@emciclez Год назад

there is NO WAY people on tiktok are talking about the same Colleen Hoover because this book is actual garbage 😭

@rienn8559 Год назад

a lot of stuff on tiktok is garbage. some good stuff but colleen hoover aint it

@viivv6230 11 месяцев назад

a lot of booktok is corrupt 😭

@nont18411 10 месяцев назад

Bold of you to assume that TikTok people have that high standards

@sedonly391 9 месяцев назад

This was actually the first Colleen Hoover book I read, I think that the idea of the book was good, but the way she actually wrote the book wasn't the best it could have been

@Lilyyy0023 Год назад

People in my book club love her and I'm riding the hate train 😭 she's the worst

@eri.x.a Год назад

get out of that book club rn save yourself baby girl 😭🙏🙏

@storm.loves.reading Год назад

i’m sending you my condolences. good luck, soldier 🥹🙏

@oznyx3935 Год назад

LEAVE IMMEDIATELY 😭

@rachel5399 Год назад

They really are the girlies who never read in their youth, and are now obsessed with it. I'm fine with people liking her, especially teens, but I always tell people to read other books with more immersive characters and plot building, and then report back to me about her being a good author. I'm fine with people putting her books in their lists of favorites or recommendations, just as long as I don't have to listen to someone say her writing is good. 😭You can like the plot or the characters, but babes, please do not praise wattpad writing.

@autumnreed2079 Год назад

Right HAHAHA

@rx500android Год назад

My favorite booktube lore is when CoHo had beef with a teen booktuber because he called out the SA scene in one of her books (I think it might have been November 9 actually)

@yaren8251 Год назад

💀💀💀

@Gigi-ui6nt Год назад

Was it Caleb Joseph by any chance???

@raquelcostin8773 Год назад

⁠@@Gigi-ui6nt that’s who i thought of too

@unnativadapalli2451 Год назад

@@Gigi-ui6ntyes

@Duhgel Год назад

is it THE CALEB JOSEPH?

@Ocean-f3g Год назад

It’s sad that people like her romanticize r@pe and toxic relationships then have a bunch of teens read it and think that’s okay

@Iamacoolperson800 Год назад

I remember the book "Slammed" by CoHo, where a student and teacher are dating (The student was 18) and the teacher LITERALLY BEAT UP ANOTHER STUDENT FOR HITTING ON THE STUDENT

@organiccouchpotato Год назад

😟😟ain’t no way…

@Pluto_Cxre Год назад

W H A T 😨

@Noel-0noah Год назад

according to coho girlies:- they love a man who assert dominance and would kill anyone who comes close to their girl, but it won't matter if he cheats,sleeps around or is horrible, as long as he loves her everything is forgivable, cuz he's an alpha man and alpha man are born this way 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Lemoncakelover678 Год назад

Why is it that so many Colleen Hoover book romances have to always have power imbalances in them? Like wtf?

@maybesara Год назад

SAY SIKE RN

@liichkiing Год назад

As a librarian I will now be infinitely more internally judgemental whenever people borrow Colleen Hoover books. Girl what...

@rienn8559 Год назад

maybe they don't know the quality of her books

@oliviauzquiano7392 Год назад

Me trying not to judge someone who had 3 colleen Hoover books checked out and 2 more on hold…

@liichkiing Год назад

@@oliviauzquiano7392 About a week or honestly just a couple of days after I left this original comment I had a lady come in and say that she lost a book while on vacation. I assumed she had just left it somewhere but she said her car was stolen, and when she got it back the book was no longer in it. I asked what book. It was this book. Colleen Hoover's November 9. I halfheartedly joked that well, it must've been good if they stole it. She said that oh yeah, it was great. I laughed awkwardly, this video still fresh in my mind. I like to think that the thief saw the book and stole it to destroy it because it sucks.

@athenajaxon2397 Год назад

Hey at least they're not paying for them! I checked out the 50 shades trilogy from the library and I hated them😂

@Sara-so9kh 11 месяцев назад

i’ve read one of her books and it’s completely different than this

@muchomango11 Год назад

Colleen Hoover trying to gaslight herself out of believing that she writes alpha male love interests

@special7217 Год назад

More like psychos and stalkers.

@tiredjedi Год назад

Every line in her "books" sets us back bro 💀

@jahazelll Год назад

LMFAOAOAO LITERALLY

@Orangejuicefr Год назад

Dude the fact the main girl is getting emotional and like clearly uncomfortable while the dude continues to unbutton her shirt is so awful 💀

@Melanchaotica Год назад

As someone actually named Fallon, this is the worst representation of my name I could’ve ever asked for 😔

@erinhaury5773 Год назад

Fallon is such a pretty name, too. Why do bad authors have to waste good names on shitty characters?

@Outlawgirl63 Год назад

Hey it’s also my Name but spelt differently. I hate that my name is in this book 📖.

@hwlo7891 Год назад

as a hopefully semi decent writer (better than colleen hoover i hope to god) i shall name one of my characters after you for compensation and apologies, i hope this may mildly suffice for the trauma you have recieved upon the existance of this book 👍

@Melanchaotica Год назад

@@hwlo7891 I feel honoured. I am certain your Fallon character will do the name more Justice than Colleen lol 🙏🙏

@birdie8006 Год назад

you are obligated to write an autobiography now, congratulations

@charliemelton885 Год назад

The best way to carry this book out would be to have the third act be like a serial killer thriller novel as soon as she finds the manuscript

@roxirock5455 Год назад

That would actually be good.

@folded_pizza Год назад

That would be amazing

@cosmic.c Год назад

I work at a bookstore. There are teenage girls who giggle and pick up a colleen hoover book to read. I knew her books were promoting bad things, but JESUS. JESUS CHRIST. I'm scared for them.

@crossbones1960 Год назад

as a teenage boy, i assure you, they know colleen hoover sucks. i do the same thing to make fun of the books 😅

@fbiagent3998 Год назад

I'm pretty sure they're making fun of it lmao coming from a teenage girl.

@rienn8559 Год назад

@@fbiagent3998 same i picked up one of her books and laughed at it then put it down

@fbiagent3998 Год назад

@@rienn8559 I have too when I went to target with my friends once 💀

@Vampgurl202 Год назад

However, grown women are so into these. Makes me sad, more than anything else

@britneyjean2187 Год назад

Ugly love is the worst book I’ve ever read, I need you and Jake to talk about it

@chrissy3875 Год назад

the scene where she was called THE WRONG NAME oh my lawdddd

@kayy211 Год назад

Yes that book was soo hard for me to finish

@aly2970 Год назад

When miles changes the writing format to poems JQGDKDH I couldn't take him serious at all.

@KaylaMarieYT Год назад

@@chrissy3875 that scene made me so uncomfortable and was borderline r*pey

@kennidie Год назад

@@KaylaMarieYT IT WAS! and her telling him to just finish yuckkkkkkkk

@Game_Erica Год назад

26:43 the delivery on that "Grab my boob, Ben" killed me lmaoo. "Grab the other one" HOW IS THIS A REAL BOOK, THIS BELONGS TO WATTPAD

@camille1324 29 дней назад

“Grab” and “boob” are both profoundly unsexy words

@ragnarkjell8586 Год назад

I know I am late to this party, but as someone who is married to someone who is a burn victim, I just want to grab the author by the shoulders and shake her until a little bit of empathy enters her brain. I do not think of my husband as ugly. But his scars are not sexy. His selfworth issues are not just his fault; the constant staring, commenting, asking when he gets his face fixed, these things are the reasons why he feels shit about himself. Sex is difficult, because scarred skin limits movement. And the fact that the girl in the story is manipulated into forgiving her tormentor is pissing me off so much. Because they tried the same thing with my husband. Obviously, completely different circumstances, but he also was constantly told that he should be more forgiving to the people who caused the accident. This book makes me so mad. Thank you for reading this. You two made it bearable.

@emilielovesbooks1613 Год назад

I thought for the longest time that the "november 9th" book was about 9/11 because in Norway 9/11 means 9th of November and not 11 of September. I thought it was a collection of perspectives from the 9/11-attack that ended up like "Love Actually" where everyone's stories meet up. - a confused Norwegain

@rachel5399 Год назад

I'm laughing omfg 😭😭😭😭 could you imagine 😭😭

@Lemoncakelover678 Год назад

No because that book actually sounds better than whatever happened in the actual book of November 9

@rubyregan1671 Год назад

THANK YOU ME TOOOOO in Australia we also say it like that so I was extremely concerned when I heard the book title hahah

@scrapsogz Год назад

I AM 4 FUCKINGS MINUTES INTO THIS VIDEO and I already regret thinking "colleen hoover cant be that bad" jesus fucking christ, I'm never gonna feel bad about my writing again

@monochromicornthetuna4256 Год назад

I thought my writing was bad too! Now I feel a thousand times better about myself

@livluvsu. Год назад

Literally 💀💀

@blockgirlygamer7714 Год назад

It’s an ego boost 💀💀

@noriii Год назад

I've seen people compliment her writing by being like "men written by women🤭" I honestly hope all these characters she's written are put in solitary confinement for life (or, electric chair ⚡).

@Okayyykian Год назад

Dude same I assumed she was just somewhat subpar and overhyped (I hadn’t seen her writing before this, just heard abt peoples opinions on her) but HOLY SHIT

@sarahblados5701 Год назад

Yall should read Layla, now that is an effed-up book. This dude goes to a bed and breakfast with his girlfriend, who went through a traumatic attack that left her emotionally scarred. While at the b and b, the dude meets a girl who is actually a ghost, and said ghost enhabits the girlfriends body so the guy and the ghost can spend time together... literally wtf.

@amani98001 Год назад

WHATTTT

@esmelevine Год назад

im sensing a pattern… women with very traumatic backgrounds seem to be a common theme in her books

@loureedpipes Год назад

That sounds so aggressively kdrama, I cannot believe. Oh My Ghost has slightly more plot but it has such a strange and similar premise

@jabee_balls Год назад

@@loureedpipes no but it literally sounds similar to ghost doctor where the popular doctor guy became a ghost while his body is comatose and he used a random interns body to go on dates with his gf later on in the eps 😭😭

@loureedpipes Год назад

@@jabee_balls I've never heard of that?? But that sounds so bizarre, I need to watch it. Also the borrowing a random intern's body???

@sanguivoir6923 Год назад

Jake's devilish smile gets me every time 😭😭

@Sillymonroll Год назад

My friend read a romance book once and it said "Her ovaries Exploded when she saw him"

@TPNsBiggestFan Год назад

UH OH

@mariapellegrino2228 Год назад

I would say to that, "no my ovaries felt like they did explode when I kept having ovarian cystic ruptures last year." and trust me they were not as painful as listening to this book.

@enviisyk Год назад

same vibe as "she breasted boobily down the stairs"

@louise1992 Год назад

the fact that the first thing he started talking to her about was her panties and not the fact that he literally ruined her life cracks me up

@Kishamashia Год назад

“This Bitch is commando” absolutely sent me 😂

@jessmacdd Год назад

IN JEANS????

@dawgholup Год назад

@@jessmacdd IN JEANS.

@BlindStarLily Год назад

Remember, everyone: Consent is the presence of a yes, not the absence of a no

@ilikescatsalot Год назад

the way she writes sex scenes is literally how a virgin or an inexperienced person would write them😭 as a virgin it pains me when i see how she writes it

@crowgang6678 Год назад

It's fucking awful that she writes it like it's meant to hurt???

@tsifirakiehl4250 10 месяцев назад

The most physically intimate I’ve ever been with another person was a kiss on the cheek, and I bet I could write better smut than Colleen Hoover.

@sweetR33CE 9 месяцев назад

I've read fics written by virgins on ao3 that are better bro 💀

@Mushess 9 месяцев назад

Look at her bro of course she’s a virgin

@Geebenezer 8 месяцев назад

In almost ALL her books too it's obvi her kink @@crowgang6678

@ihatekaitlynn6698 Год назад

My librarian HATES Colleen Hoover! 😭 Girls are always begging and begging for more of her books in our school library, but she always says no. She only has one singular book, and it’s the only good one I’ve ever heard about. She’s my fave!

@MenacetoSociety28 Год назад

Your librarian dropped this 👑

@jodi_j Год назад

is the one good book Verity

@ihatekaitlynn6698 Год назад

@@jodi_j I think so 😭

@thedarkfroggy Год назад

@@jodi_j wha- WHAT??? That is like the literal WORST book of hers ;-; i mean if you mean as in its the only one without SA then yeah but... its literally so gross it makes my aro/ace a$$ wanna throw up

@Outlawgirl63 Год назад

Your Librarian can take this W

@abbyshoenfelt6413 Год назад

the “only a man can pleasure a woman” really made me sick

@victor-kafka Год назад

Ironic considering that most men cant even make a woman finish, let alone leave her satisfied

@divine555 Год назад

@@victor-kafkait's the only real kind of s** though, lesbians just master****

@c4tism Год назад

i vowed to never read one of her books, and this is really cementing that sentiment

@Sir_Sumair Год назад

My poor sister has read one of her books and probably lost part of her soul that day

@JustSillyRami Год назад

That book is basically wattpat in physical form for the most of it.

@jorjahockley Год назад

I bet some Wattpad books are better

@abbyshoenfelt6413 Год назад

@@jorjahockleyi’ve read wattpad books that are better

@storiartest Год назад

As someone who reads stuff on Wattpad when I'm bored, Wattpad is definitely better

@raeishere0 Год назад

wattpad has sooooo many books that are better than this

@______________url Год назад

So like a normal book??

@kata7913 Год назад

As a hobby writer, Colleen gives me a lot of confidence XD

@rubiesstories Год назад

this is so real

@erinhaury5773 Год назад

Hear, hear! 😂

@mer_acle8101 Год назад

same I literally feel so much better about my writing FROM WHEN I WAS 13 because daresay back then I was already the better writer LOL

@loveinstars Год назад

@@erinhaury5773what does that mean

@heyy.im_mithi 10 месяцев назад

@@loveinstars they mean that they were a better writer at 13 than colleen hoover now

@svlanifructis7114 Год назад

Local burn victim develops Stockholm syndrome. People left baffled at how it's supposed to be a love story.

@laurendavis3333 Год назад

This is the only way I will consume Colleen Hoover

@Bigfoot_With_Internet_Access Год назад

You're really out here doing a service for humanity with that

@rosary6521 Год назад

Imagine asking for forgiveness from the person who scarred you for life (emotionally and physically) because he dicked you down....and you literally have no point of comparison to tell that it's good either

@kaattt-21 Год назад

Alt ending: “I didn’t come here to forgive you, I came here for revenge”

@Lemoncakelover678 Год назад

November 9 if it was based

@probablyjinxed 11 месяцев назад

**unsheaths katana**

@charadreemurr9081 8 месяцев назад

lowkey thought the ending would be her burning his face LMFAO

@kaattt-21 8 месяцев назад

@@charadreemurr9081 LMAO that would have been great

@paintedpools4752 5 месяцев назад

The ending Fallon deserved

@deerboii Год назад

I feel like this author has never been insecure about anything in her life

@deerboii Год назад

Also? Real talk?? If sex hurts UR GOING TOO FAST

@thefoxandthehound81 Год назад

fr 😭😭

@corsivapurpleus Год назад

As someone who vowed to never read this author but also adamantly dislikes this author, you are doing god's work by providing me this evidence. I knew it was bad but...oh my. Feeling very validated.

@Noname-et2rl Год назад

You’re so real for this 😔🙏🏻

@Slapjack628 Год назад

The slander is very necessary and appreciated

@bethanyray6421 Год назад

i listened to this as a segment of my 14 hour road trip and i literally loved it. it was my favorite thing i listened to on the entire road-trip. PLEASE GIVE US MORE. (preferably colleen hoover bc these are hilarious but honestly i will take anything)

@chrissy3875 Год назад

YESSSS

@feelinthepsi Год назад

Agreed 🎉

@isabella79282 Год назад

The more I think about it, none of the women in Colleen Hoover's books seem to have interests or strong connections outside of their relationships. Gotta love it 😍😍

@hephaestusrots Год назад

they do not pass the bechdel test

@isabella79282 Год назад

@@hephaestusrots not by a long shot

@VVesteria Год назад

My tutor was told to read her books and she bought a bundle thinking it’ll be good since they’re popular. This poor lady got scammed and i watched her rant about how shitty the books were for 20 minutes. Best rant I’ve ever witnessed, I never knew she was so funny before lol.

@sophiacoleman428 Год назад

holy shit. i knew this book was bad from reviews but hearing you guys read what actually happened doesn't feel real

@lyndseytune6716 Год назад

I need Colleen Hoover JAILED! NOW!

@pixieinx Год назад

Immediately

@CrayonEater5000 Год назад

LOCK HER UP 🗣️

@gallavichstrss Год назад

THROW AWAY THE KEY 🗣️

@thaliaayangla7492 Год назад

The ending apology is literally horrifying

@k2ntos Год назад

i’m so proud of myself that i’ve never ever read a colleen hoover book. this is my biggest flex. also EVERYTHING about this book gave me trauma. just feeling sorry for the trees cut down for this book

@supergachastudios9730 6 месяцев назад

Hey guys! Let’s see this chart I made so we don’t make the mistakes that Ben did! “I don’t know” is not consent. “Maybe” is not consent. Freezing up is not consent. Crying is not consent. “No” is not consent. “Wait” is not consent. “Stop” is not consent. If your partner isn’t giving you a stated “yes” then it is not consent. Consent is discussing boundaries.

@noelkempster Год назад

Nobody’s mother would ever tell them to forgive someone who literally scarred them for life FROM ARSON

@venetiadewilde Год назад

This is the only way I will ever consume a Coleen Hover book.

@stormsandsaints Год назад

i’m only 9 minutes in and this is already insane HOW DO PEOPLE ACTUALLY LIKE HER BOOKS???? HELLO?????

@bubblesbelmont5603 Год назад

"Ben was just a kid..😞" okay, but so was she????

@toulousesho 11 месяцев назад

someone needs to rewrite this as a thriller/horror novel where she meets this guy and they fall in love but really he’s this psycho that burned her house and caused her scars when she was younger and he has a fetish for seeing the scars of the harm he caused and how it affects his victims lives

@helenahildegarda5739 9 месяцев назад

It sounds genius this way

@randompromises1038 5 месяцев назад

Given the convenient timing of him meeting her at the diner and how the whole book he manipulates her into finding her scars sexy it just makes far more sense as a horror book

@aabcc Год назад

I work in a library and this was FASCINATING. Colleen Hoover books circulate really well and I process patron holds for them all the time, I've always wondered why they're so appealing but couldnt justify dedicating sm time to finding out for myself 😭

@dinosaur___7209 Год назад

Maybe you could ask ppl if they think the relationships in it are healthy 😭

@heathern8043 Год назад

No because I’m studying to become a librarian 😭 I’ve just now realised I’m gonna have people borrowing colleen Hoover books right in front of my face like how can I allow that in good conscience 💀

@sad-womeninthehouse4249 Год назад

My friend finally got into reading, I was so excited for her. She told me this was the book she was reading. All her subsequent books she’s read have been Colleen Hoover books. I don’t know how to tell her that I don’t want to do a book club with her

@emilia.ac.2153 Год назад

This is so funny to me, I’m so sorry for laughing

@abaraiii Год назад

I am joining my school's reading club and i am scared of being joined by those booktok fangurls eww

@ailic4257 Год назад

The author, Colleen Hoover writes almost all her characters white and absolutely all her characters are similar to each other. Her female characters are portrayed as helpless and manipulated by their love interest, which in all the books are portrayed as similar to each other with exactly the same personality. What's funny is that all her female characters forgive their psychotic boyfriends, and in the bookstores it will be labeled as romance, the author identifies her books as ROMANCE when it clearly is NOT romance! I can't do anything but conclude that the author wrote these stories of hers one day in 2001 or something, and based all of her characters on herself, those characters are (most definitely) herself in an insane fanfic she wrote in her early 20s.

@saige9658 Год назад

it’s almost concerning, like is she a victim?? it’s assumed that her and her husband have an age gap and they got married when she was 20 - seems like maybe she’s coping with something

@santiv4 11 месяцев назад

all her characters arent only similar, theyre *identical*. ive watched so many people read through her booms for criticism and theyre all written with the same exact characters. no real drive for anything but what’s convenient for the plot, but in the same exact way that they’re all the same reused characters.

@Nunofyabizzzzz 27 дней назад

They can stay white it’s ok. We don’t need diversity in everything

@kyliedark2169 Год назад

The worst thing about is that it makes young teens believe it is normal. I thought it was weird and when i tried to talking to my friends about it but they thought it was romantic but after i discussed it with some sane people they told me that this was f ed up.

@Tay_- Год назад

"Grab my boob, Ben👁👁" I LOST IT AT THIS FUCKING PHRASE PLEASE😭😭😭😭

@d.oertliche Год назад

The thing is even when she writes about a protagonist older than a teenager, she puts her into an insanely inappropriate age gap relationship (it ends with us: girl 23 love interest 30 + also a love interest who was into her when she was 15 and he I think 18)

@HannahElise Год назад

I enjoyed every single minute of this

@violetslit Год назад

finding the worst colleen hoover book is a challenge in itself but nov 9 is a good choice lmao (also caleb joseph's least fav book EVER i think??)

@Gabriel-tf6gb Год назад

the fact he hated on colleen as a kid and faced so much hate when in reality he turned out to be right the entire time... the irony

@IR-VCH-uf4yt Год назад

IRAN 😘

@schneefall3935 Год назад

Wasn't he also one of the first people to call out the r*pe scene or am I mixing things up rn?

@moonxlilies Год назад

@@schneefall3935 he was!! he was also one of the very first people to speak up against the problematic components of hoover's writings when literally everyone else on tiktok and youtube was raving about her books

@helloill672 Год назад

Slam is about a teacher x student romance. At least everyone in this book is an adult

@Random_edits. Год назад

My friends are obsessed with CoHo and they tell me about all these “romantic plots” and I just listen absolutely traumatized. The worst part is that they think they’re the absolute fucking best books ever written. It disgusts me that the WattPad books I used to read had better plot and messages than CoHo books. And my friends try to counter act my “the sexual fucking assault,” with, “oh you read wattpad when you were 12,” like that wasn’t about being in love with someone who sexually assaulted you. CoHo disgusts me and I have no idea how she even got so popular

@mygoodfriendcosmo Год назад

i think you need new friends!!!!!! what the fuck!!!!!!

@birdie8006 Год назад

what does that wattpad thing mean?? are they insinuating that people who read wattpad are oversensitive or sheltered or something? because there was a lot of real messed up stories on there that i remember girls reading on their ipads at my high school. it's very sad when i read paperback YA novels with relationships like CH's because i always felt those situations were weirdly romantic, yet somewhat uncomfortable and i couldn't figure out why i would put the book down when others would obsess over it. and now that i've gone through my trial and error with guys, i understand the meaning of enthusiastic consent w/ my boyfriend, who consistently asks "is this OK?" / "can i do this?" / "do you want me to stop?" if he ever gets the idea i may be uncomfortable. THAT is romance. these hoover books are toilet paper for all they're worth. you should never continue sexually interacting with someone who is showing signs of disinterest🤢

@qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm3093 2 месяца назад

@@birdie8006 I guess its sort of like, don't judge my reading tastes when you read books like these when you were 12. Which honestly isn't comparable to me, like at least they read those when they were 12 and didn't know any better. Y'all are adults. You SHOULD know better.

@birdie8006 2 месяца назад

@@qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm3093 yeah very weird behavior from this person's friends

@lane9598 Год назад

Jake talking like John Mulaney made this book a lot more bearable, you guys r so funny

@aikini_ Год назад

i’m sooooo ready to see a whole hour of you and jake talking

@sincerely_fee Год назад

This is probably the first hour long RU-vid video I’ve ever watched all the way through without skipping a single part. Please do more of these!!!!!!

@zsujaz Год назад

i wish i was you bc once i watched an 8 hour long video in one sitting

@sincerely_fee Год назад

@@zsujaz girl I- 💀 what were u watching??

@zsujaz Год назад

@@sincerely_fee a the last of us 2 gameplay.. 😭 gameplays in general alot of times

@sporkzzz Год назад

@@zsujaz same but the video I watched was about victorious the show for tweens...

@zsujaz Год назад

@@sporkzzz that's understandable too ngl

@yawningmimi6787 Год назад

Can we talk about how ethereal Nicole looks in every video?

@IR-VCH-uf4yt Год назад

IRAN 😘

@dannietea Год назад

Colleen’s missing her calling to be a psychological thriller/mystery writer.

@kate2706 9 месяцев назад

no because verity was also shit!!

@Game_Erica Год назад

This book seems actually quite inspiring. If a book this bad can be published, maybe I have a chance lmao

@gracie3866 Год назад

SO REAL LMAO

@LittleBobbyJasmine 8 месяцев назад

Fr😂I feel so hopeful😂😭

@daisyrye Год назад

The fact that this story is entertaining because of how badly it's written when it should be nothing but disturbing is...a talent?

@adalinebailey9936 Год назад

Girls, if you ever meet a guy like Ben, RUN THE OTHER WAY. GET OUT OF THERE

@p1kkuma Год назад

I can understand why people don’t hate Colleen Hoover if they’ve only read IEWU, but I don’t understand how people can wholeheartedly defend her when there are monstrosities under her name like November 9 and Ugly Love 😭

@emilia.ac.2153 Год назад

So true, I’ve only read IEWU and I thought it’s not THAT bad it wasn’t for me but I guess there’s a message that makes sense I guess so I thought I understand many don’t like the book but HATE Coleen Hoover bc of that? Nah… and then I saw this video… I understand now 😭

@caliscool_ Год назад

Don’t forget Layla 😭😭

@guggelguggel7491 Год назад

Or Verity 😭

@blockgirlygamer7714 Год назад

@@guggelguggel7491AND PEOPLE SAY THAT’S HER GOOD BOOK LMAOO

@Lemoncakelover678 Год назад

@@blockgirlygamer7714no because that book isn't much better than the others like the romance is still trash and the mystery just wasn't really interesting. In fact, it was kinda boring

@TheStarsAlly Год назад

I feel like I'm sitting in my bedroom trashing this book with my two friends and I love it. I really hate the fetishization of her scars. I have scars from self harm all over my body and ngl it makes me super uncomfy the way they describe her burns and her feelings about them. It's very normal to feel insecure about scars but in the context of the book it's very icky. I would be super weirded out if a guy/girl/nonbinary-pal I'm in a relationship with kept wanting to touch and talk about my scars.

@user11871 Год назад

That's what I was thinking too, I had a friend who did this and even though it wasn't even a fraction creepy of what the book is like, it felt so uncomfortable to be treated that way :/

@AxoPearlEdits Месяц назад

As someone with similar scars (very faded now, luckily) its definitely an ick seeing that he depicts it as "sexy"- I feel like it shouldn't be the narrative of: "Scars are why you're hot" and instead: "Your scars don't make you ugly"