You guys should have invited last years cannonball winner to talk about the best ways to jam and avoid detection. Those guys are on an entire different level and probably know everything about this stuff
They usually have blocker cars in every state to scout the roads ahead while they're driving and use an infrared camera on their own car to spot cops at night
"I got 99 problems but a Brtfch ain't one"... If the very nice police officer who is just trying to do his job for money laughs, then roll with it. If he doesn't laugh stop talking to him and start talking to a lawyer.
@@niko-fr9of They actually do break, thus the need for frequent maintenance. "Got a calibration ticket for that, because I think my speed wasn't that high?" is a good attempt to make...
Some dude at defcon developed a jammer that would pull data from google maps to check the correct speed limit of whichever road he was located on and would send back a laser signal compatible with most cop laser scanners that would display the right speed on their reading. it was hilarious.
@@hannialtousy6111 that's precisely how this works. The design the commenter is referring to is entirely homemade. There isn't any way to purchase it, or even a kit to build it. The major limiter is the ability to actually create the light the lazer sensor is looking for iirc 302nm, long story short its not for sale and if you have to ask and can't find it from searching for the related video / don't understand the implications of a self built proof of concept then you're not the target demographic who could make use of it.
@@hannialtousy6111 sure thing. Ok so all you gotta do is take the product in the video, disassemble, learn a couple programming languages to decent proficiency along with some intermediate networking skills. Now, you'll have to do some research and don't forget to study some electrical engineering while you do that. Make a visual basic program that can tell Maps to pinpoint your location, look at the displayed speed limit, and transfer that number onto another program that interacts with the laser jammer hardware so that it can change the laser's output in accordance. A couple clicks later and voila, you'll have yourself your very own Sub-speeder. And after all that learning, it'll pay for itself in just 45 years.
I had a Rocky Mountain Radar jammer some 15 years ago. I doubted the jamming capability from the start, but it was a good fun trick on other drivers. If you turn on the jamming feature, it will trigger anyone around you with a detector. I used to play with it on the highway to see who brakes and slows down.
It’s common knowledge Rocky Mountain is a joke and a scam. I daily an R7 and the ‘false’ alerts that I get are from troopers on the other side of the divider wall. Anyone dumb enough to buy a Rocky Mountain today deserves to be scammed for not researching. An old Redline performs better than a crappy Odin or Judge. And Redlines are discontinued…😜 If anyone says that Rocky Mountain is a good product, that person just works for them.
I had a Hot Wheels radar gun as a kid and it we use it on road trips back in the 90s, you'd see so many people braking when we triggered it. as a kid we felt so powerful
Thanks for taking the time to test and debunk RMR’s products. They can detect radar, though the range is far worse than other detectors in the same price range. Their scrambling capability is definitely a scam in practice which is what we generally are referring to. Same thing with many other claims like 100% POP detection and RDD immunity. The TMG is a decent laser jammer and yeah, it works differently and is effective against many laser guns. Good job taking the time to research the background and facts with all this stuff too!
Fun fact Lasers are regulated by the FDA because the earliest implementation of civilian lasers were at supermarket checkout stands and there was concern of their effect on food.
the trick is to have a jammer that detects, then jams for a couple seconds, then STOPS. it gives you time to reduce your speed but doesnt give away that youre jamming.
The idea behind a laser scrambler is run it for a few seconds. This will allow you to slow down then allow the laser to detect your speed. If it gets no reading you will get pulled over for a visual speed estimate of speeding. Many have a setting where they detect a laser and beep then 2-3 seconds later it quits scrambling
This ^^^^^ needs more attention! That way the cops aren't too suspicious about a typical product. If people go on and leave them on all the time, they will quickly make them illegal.
@@Oink_Blaster think you will find any device that actively or passively stops a law enforcement officer carrying out his duty (speed checks in this instance) will be illegal. I believe they will use an obstruction or tampering with evidence charge.
And brake gently, so those pests don't see your nose diving. May want to switch your brake lights off for a few seconds, if you wired in a switch to do that.
TMG's website on how they developed their tech is amazing: "We had to do it this way back in the 90's as the Russians wouldn't let us borrow their missiles to record all their ECCM algorithms."
That's what I don't get. Speed limits aren''t there for people to get fines, they are there because they actually save lives. I get on hating the government, but not driving too fast has nothing to do with that.
@@neatkefe they're not always their for that purpose. With so many places having varying speed limits, set by different people, you don't think theirs any cities in the US that abuse the fact they can generate a lot of revenue from frivolous fines? Their was a city that fined you for having unmatching curtains in your window and all type of stuff and those rules existed for years until it was struck down so there are absolutely places all over the US that abuse this by making the speed limit lower than it should be. And speed limits should really only exist in residential areas not on long flat roads or at least it should be very lenient in those circumstances, yet it tends not to be a lot of the time. Our justice system is regularly abused as revenue generator
I got pulled over for speeding once, he said he clocked me at 87 in a 75 zone. He didn't say how he'd measured that. I didn't ask him either, I was too relieved that he didn't see me when I was going 100 to think about much else.
Yeah me too, i got a ticket at 90 (70mph max on motorways in the UK, over a hundred is bad news, court appearance and loss of license usually) but I'd seen a couple of drivers I had been catching slow down for no apparent reason so I eased off and as i rounded a curve there was a copper on a bridge with a radar gun.
Story for me goes, i was called by a friend to pick them up from a hotel 75 miles away because they were drunk, and needed to get home, didnt feel okay to drive. I lead footed it 100 into the big city because it was midnight and i needed to be up for work at 6 am. I always slow down for in town driving because im a reasonable human being and i dont speed where pedestrians have crosswalks. However, as i was slowing down into town, a guy 1 mile down just refused to turn his brights off, didnt look like the newer led's of a cop car so i left my brights on as well. Mine are way brighter. As i coasted through the flashing stop light at a solid 60 miles an hour, low and behold johnny law was the one with his brights on and he did a U-turn, pulled me over a block away and claimed to have clocked me at 74 in a 55. I hadn't been doing 74 since more than three miles back so I didnt buy it but I was polite, 'are you sure officer? I know I was over but that seems high" "You're the only one out here sir, it couldnt have been anyone else." "Right, sorry sir I didnt mean to imply it was someone else, here's my documents." He asked Why i was out at this hour, I told him about needing to go pick up a drunk friend, he came back and let me go with a warning. My take on it has always been he was full of crap, because if he clocked my at 20 over (19 really) it's felony speeding in my state. No way I'd have not gotten that ticket atleast. I think he was mad about the highbeams but couldn't call me out on it. Still, nice of him to give me a warning.
@@Cee1019 always love when shitty drivers try to justify their shittiness. Going triple digits anywhere is dumb. It’s your choice but Idgaf if it’s an empty highway, it’s dumb af
@@Cee1019 Nice of you to get a warning. I was going 68 in a 40 and received aggravated speeding and had to hire a traffic lawyer. Keep in mind I was late for work and nobody was in my lane. Never had so much as a ticket before. I wish I was given a warning but this guy acted as if taking my license and giving me a court date was doing me a favor lol.
So what a good laser jammer actually does is: 1. Jams, so the cop can't get a reading. 2. Warns you 3. Shuts off. So that when the office that again they will get a reading. Basically, they will warn that you're getting with with a laser. Thus making you hit the brakes. Bringing your speed back to league limits.
As a Virginian, I am happy to know that even Californians know how strict we are when it comes to traffic enforcement. We’re basically a meme in that aspect.
@AnotherT6 did the same thing and got popped on I95 in Richmond. I hid the radar detector in my center console thinking I was slick. Cop rolled up and asked where the radar detector was😂.. Dude told me they can detect them but he never took it since I was from out of state.
I had a laser jammer years ago. It came with a switch so, when the alarm sounded, you could slow down and turn it off and allow the cop to get your speed. Otherwise, he'd know something is up
Yeah, that's the key. As soon as you get an alarm; break to legal speed and turn the jamming off. And make sure to have those devices well hidden. I had the old Danish "Blinder-20" system and it worked great! But just a detector can save you as well, if you are amongst other traffic and the police start checking your speed at a great distance. They get a reading, but usually tries once or twice more to be sure and by that time you have slowed down. First hand experience... 😬😆
There was actually a guy in Finland that got pulled over and got a speeding ticket even though "He wasn't speeding" Sadly for the officers that were using a radar gun, the guy was actually physics master and is teaching physics. So he went to court and explained the judge that the radar gun isn't accurate because the waves admitted from it bounced back from a bus that was traveling the opposite lane (So basically the teacher gave a lecture to the officers and the court) and actually got the ticket dismissed.
What would be really cool is if donut developed a car with a low radar cross section. Combined with LiDAR jamming it would actually be relatively immune… with only the slight chance of becoming classified once validated.
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Here in the Netherlands we use, what is called, Target Blue Eye. It's basically a detector for communication devices used by police, ambulance and firefighters. You can tell how far away you are from the nearest 'emergency vehicle'. So it also works great against unmarked police vehicles wich are used by our traffic police.
Most cops dont wanna waste their time going to court way before or after shift or on their day off over speeding tickets so they just wont go to the courthouse sometimes.
The guy that designed the C4 corvette was previously an engineer for a defence contractor. So when he designed the front of the vette he worked with the angles of the car and even the radiator to give a lower radar cross section.
I find that detectors are useful in areas you're already familiar with. On my commute, I know all the places cops like to hide out, so if my detector goes off around the area I'll slow down,and have yet to get pulled over. In areas you don't know well, probably better to not speed too much.
Ive been pulled over and let go with the cops saying the radar did its job. It let you know I was there and slowed you down. I thought that was a very practical response from guys that could’ve just wrote a ticket.
I still have a RMR detector/scrambler that I bought in 2006. It is a very reliable detector and has very few false positives when driving around town, and almost zero on the highway. I can not attest to its scrambling abilities but I have not had a ticket with it in any of my cars since then. Still works like a charm but the beeper is losing its volume over time, only complaint.
@3:50 - Radar detectors are only illegal in D.C. and VA. Laser jammers are a different story. I know jammers are illegal in CO, TN, and IL (just to name a few states).
This comment needs more upvotes. To add: radar detectors are illegal in multiple states but ONLY in commercial vehicles, not POVs. This is probably where they got those states from. I expected alittle more research from Donut
@@AsianFlew I know this for a fact too. They have signs as you enter the state letting you know radar detectors are illegal in the state. I used to live in both states.
When I sold my Volt you showed in this video I left the TMG system in it, it did work a few times… but the Escort IX Ci with jammers in my truck is an entirely different level 🔥🔥🔥
In some states, highway patrol will 'pace' the freeway--going over the limit but slower than WE want to go, and dare anyone to pass them, essentially. Otherwise, they have to creep up to pace you. Either way, no fancy tools required, and this stuff won't save you. Just a warning, ok?
Ive been pulled over for speeding, the officer tried to say I was going the speed that he went to catch up to me. I got away with just a warning but he did essentially accuse me of going 10 mph over what I had done.
If anyone is interested in a more in depth explanation of how radar and lidar work, here you go. They're based on the doppler effect, which describes the way a wave will be compressed when bouncing off of an object moving towards it, and stretched when the object is moving away. You can actually listen for an example of this. When you stand next to a road, the sound of passing cars seems to rise in pitch as they approach, then drop as they pass you and pull away. This is because the sound waves the car is producing are being compressed, then stretched, eg the doppler effect. It works the same way with light, just far more subtly. The gun sends out a beam of radio or infrared light at a precise known wavelength. When the beam comes back, it compares the wavelength of the incoming light, notes the degree of stretching or compression, and from that calculates your speed. Relative to its own, anyway. Importantly, this effect only works when something is moving towards or away from you. If it's moving perpendicular to the direction you're facing you can't use the doppler effect to figure out its speed. You've probably heard doppler in relation to weather radars. That's not the system that shows cloud cover and rainfall. Doppler radar is used to get early warning or tornados by flagging spots where clouds approaching and receding are right next to each other, which COULD indicate rotation in the clouds and a forming tornado.
unfortunately, I find that despite having an effective jammer, going 90 in a 35 in a murdered out, straight piped audi past a cop still gets you a ticket. Not arrested tho.
Yeah they can still pull you over for speeding. They can even just give you a ticket and say you were doing whatever they want. Unless you have a dash cam with GPS logging on it, how are you gonna prove otherwise?
@@godzillaxred In fairness, there are some empty AF rural roads where the speed limit is 35 because they are technically two-lane "residential" streets but ain't nothin' to hit out there. I grew up on one. There was about one house every quarter mile, one intersection every 2-3 miles, and you could see clear to the horizon if anything else was even CLOSE to the road, but the posted speed limit was still 35.
@@WhiteG60 All you have to do is drag their ass to court and ask them to provide the proof that you were doing that speed and without the proof it would get dropped. Most ppl will not go that far tho.
I don't know where I saw it but I saw an older guy talking about how they would use the magnatron out of a microwave to mess with early speed detection systems but the problem is, though it worked, it would make the radar gun (I assume it was radar) read the speed at like -100,000 mph or something insane like that.
In the early 90's I bought a rocky mountain radar jammer...I also happened to be in the air force and knew a guy that worked on electronic countermeasures...we took the unit to his shop and was able to determine there was nothing transmitting or interfering with any radar bands...we then dissambled it and determined it did absolutely nothing other than illimunate a red LED...I'm really amazed this company is still out there scamming people
It's illegal to detect them detecting you,no it's not because i simply don't care! We've to and MUST protect ourselves from the government at all costs!
9:14 "The FCC can't regulate light" From a physics standpoint, radar is literally light, and the FCC regulated it, so if they needed to, there's nothing preventing them from regulating laser, microwaves, gamma rays, plain old visible light, etc.
For as aware of obeying the law as donut is, I was expecting a huge disclaimer right up front saying things like "this is just for science" or "off-road" or "the best way to avoid getting a ticket is by driving the speed limit"
In California, radar detectors are legal, but the state does have a say about where they are positioned (Minnesota does too). In California, you cannot mount anything to the windshield as it may obstruct the view. If you have a radar detector in California, you must mount it on the dashboard.
Radar detectors work because of the 4th-power law for radar detection. This means that the signal power returned to the radar gun has fallen off according to a 4th-power relationship to distance. But the signal power received at the car has only decreased according to the 2nd-power law. Put simply this means that the radar signal can be detected by the car at a much longer distance than the radar gun receiver can detect it because the radar gun receiver is operating at double distance: the transmitted signal path distance and the reflected signal path distance. For detection this works well with radar guns that continuously emit energy but not so well with pulsed radar guns. This is because the signal can then be detected by the car at a much longer range than the radar gun receiver can. With pulsed radar guns if the cop waits until you are quite close before triggering the gun, you will be caught and detection will not do you any good. Sometimes your detector can detect pulsed signals intended for cars closer to the cop than you are so if there are no other cars between you and the cop you will probably be caught with a pulsed (triggered) radar gun.
@@b-chroniumproductions3177 it can still detect it at quite a distance definitely enough time to react. It’s not a laser. Forums all say that yes it does shorten reaction time from the radar gun if turned on K/KA POP. Ofc turning on another feature like this would always shorten range and increasing stuff for the detector to look for. KA and K pop would shorten length in theory if the officer shot the radar gun closer range to the vehicle or if they hadn’t used it frequently, but with a high end detector would still detect with plenty of time prior. Mid- lower end detectors and those without POP might have a harder time detecting all together or at a significantly lower range, but the higher end like the Uniden R7 i own, Valentine V1/V2, Uniden R3, Uniden R8, and others would still be just fine. POP usage isn’t even that common in most areas anyways not common my POP is off on my R7, but it’s such a sensitive detector it prob will detect it even with POP off.
Drive not more than 5 mph over the limit if solo on the road. When driving in traffic even if they are over the limit, but don't be the lead nor trailing car. And don't tailgate.
I assume you've never been to VA. Speed limit 70, then a speed limit 20 sign hidden behind a tree with a cop waiting nearby. Driving the speed limit doesn't help you there.
In some states, the interstate officers use VASCAR. This is a speed and distance measuring system that does not use radar or laser. It uses a distance measured and recorded on a timer. The officer/patrolman just has to see you crest a hill, begin timing and note how long it takes to crest the next one. It is unbeatable in court, especially when the officer has a body cam that proves when he pressed the buttons.
There's three ways there's average speed cameras as well. They measure the time it takes to go between two points. no scramblers going to work against that.
There is a third device used to detect speed called vascar. It is essentially a computerized stop watch that times the vehicle between two known fixed points such as telephone poles or the two white lines across the lane
Despite radio waves being electromagnetic waves like light they are definitely not light. The wavelength of light ranges from about 400 to 700 nanometres (1 nanometre = 0.000000001 metre) whereas the wavelength of radio waves range between centimetres and kilometres.
Would've been a cool idea if speed limits were not so idiotically low nowadays. A 65 limit on the freeway is just retarded. Should have a 100-110 speed limit with rapidly increasing speeding fines for any going beyond that, with a 65 mph limit for trucks. But no, we have single brain cell lawyers who give us retardedly low speed limits while not putting enough pressure on slow drivers in fast lanes, road raging, street racing, drunk driving, you know the things that actually result in lethal accidents on mass scales...
I've always thought it would be neat to have a radar transmitter that was linked to your speedometer, so that no matter what speed you went, it would read that you were doing 55. Then all you need is a laser jammer and one of those strobes that change red light signals and you are ready for blissful, worry-free, really fast driving.
Cops can also pull you over through pacing. If they see you zipping through cars all around you, ticket. If they see you driving in a manner that seems faster than normal (say you’re the only car on the road) generally they will try catching up to you and can tell if you’re speeding or not by how long it takes to catch up + their own speed.
"one of the simplest ways to avoid getting caught speeding is with a detector." I think the simplest way is an AGM-88E AARGM HARM anti-radiation missile on a 360 degree turreted mounting system.
The newer laser guns have anti-jamming technology built into them. That Pro Laser 3 is out of date. Some even show “jam to gun.” You’ll be screwed either way. You’re better off just using a high end detector and Waze.
Man in all my years of driving I thought the best way to avoid getting a speeding ticket was just not to speed. Proves me wrong. Also ignores other tactics enjoyed by cops such as tailing you to get a speed or visual estimates which are legally enough to stop you but not always enough for a ticket to hold up in court.
would love for you guys to test this on the C4 corvette, the later model was supposedly designed with being as stealth as possible to radar and laser as possible according to a book one of the engineers is quoted in.
"The FCC can't regulate light & that is what a laser is" You might want to ask a physicist about that. Visible light & radio waves (what radar uses) are merely different frequencies in the electromagnetic spectrum, so what's the difference? They're even both invisible, as police lasers don't shoot out a star-wars style red beam. As stated in the vid, they are infra-red lasers.
i bought the jackery system with 4 panels last year and ive been using it every week since! so useful for the greenhouse, the garage , around the firepit, when im building stuff outside. love it!
A radio wave can travel so far, but a laser or light can travel for miles and not be detected. This is why the FCC can’t regulate light, because it’s too fast and it can travel from 100 miles or 1,000 miles. The US military has a laser beam that is mounted on a heli and that can emit a laser that can travel 100 miles instantly.
Look, it's possible to build a *death ray* with a powerful laser. _Of course_ they're regulated. These guys are only interested in whether jamming laser signals is illegal.
Passive radar detectors ARE actually legal in Cali, you’re just not allowed to mount them to your windshield because of California’s weird laws about “obstructing the view”. If you mount it to your dash, i believe it’s perfectly fine
My dad and I have both used Valentine 1’s for years and they’re great. They detect radar over a mile away and it warns you before the cop has a chance to see you. On top of that it’s directional so it can tell you where the radar is coming from. It has saved my butt a bunch of times. It also reads laser but if it can read it then it’s too late, the cop already got your car
I was looking between the uniden r7 and the v1, but got sucked into uniden because one of my work friends has an r3. And i have loved the r7 styling for years.
V1s are great. The Ka band radars I've used won't register speed of a vehicle farther than about a quarter mile, so detecting it early gives time to slow down before I can clock you. Then the fool behind you zips around you because he doesn't know why you slowed down and ends up catching the ticket.
The Escort Passport SR5 system with laser diffusers made my 02 Honda 2000 completely invisible to Laser. That was about 12 years ago so I'm not sure if the authorities figured a way to beat the diffusers.
Remember when laser interceptor from Croatia was the undisputed king? I do, I spent about $1,100 on a 3 head unit. Cliff, the North American representative was extremely helpful. Unfortunately the company got sued for some patent infringement and they stopped updating their software. Those saved me a fortune. I’d deliberately speed (allegedly) past laser traps and jam to gun every time. The lidatek 30 was an unsafe brute force laser blinder that was extremely effective at the time. Jam codes yes, but legal almost everywhere so they just thought their LiDAR guns were malfunctioning. Good times.
I'm honestly wondering how 76,000 views (and counting!) is going to affect the streets. I imagine sales for these things just spiked, at least a little bit. this is basically a commercial. lol
How do movies showcasing robberies not get sued? Bc its mostly entertainment and the 20 out of 100000 ppl that will actually break the law bc of this video arent a concern to the police. Still u have a point lmao. Some ppl upload videos of them street racing and they get away with it somehow, so its no surprise
Supreme Court had a ruling stating everyone has the right to know when they’re being monitored dealing specifically with radar detectors. The ticket can’t survive a denial in court
Radar detectors are illegal in Canada period and the RCMP have a radar detector -detector. I had an old detector set up in my house aimed out at the road. It drove the police crazy because they would think that it was attached to someone's car but they could never find it lol.
Ive seen lots of radar detectors from and the vast majority of them just tell you, "Hey, you're about to get pulled over and get a ticket." The only one I've ever seen that let you know them before they could see you was the Valentine 1. I'd love to see you guys do some testing on some non scam detectors like Escort/Passport, Valentine 1, and the one I saw get installed in many a Porsche when I sold them, the K40, which was super pricey but they'd pay any ticket you got in the first year (although where I live 3 speeding tickets in a 365 day period is an automatic license suspension).
do note that a veteran officer who has been on the traffic unit has a lot of experience sometimes if they can visually see you are speeding like if you are going faster than the other motorists around you that is a sign that you might be speeding
police are trained to accurately calculate your vehicle's speed by sight, and usually the car passing everyone else is the one that is likely speeding. Lastly, police radar has a squelch mode where it's on but not projecting until the cop flips a switch when they see a car speeding and they got you instantly and the radar detector goes from nothing to max bars. I've been on both sides of the law and learned that speeding just isn't worth it.
My AL Priority Laser Defense system works everytime, everywhere, and on every gun that hits it. Running 4 heads. 2 front & 2 back. Worth the money I paid. Software/Firmware updates keep me safe from new guns. For radar I use The Escort Passport Max 360, I run Wazes, and use my common sense. I get hit laser tickets often. My radar is just to Damn good get get a radar ticket. Again I get hits often but no tickets.
