Then why not winter, Antarctica, frost, frozen etc? Because they used Finland and Norway for whiter colors and Cuba for medium skin tone they were clearly not thinking about snow. They were thinking the stereotypical people who live there. Its rude colorist and wrong in this day and age. Point. Blank. Period.
@@kn1fed girl, nude is supposed to be like your color skin not necessarely caucasian skin, makeup brands make the word Nude appear like a caucasian things but it's not
@@kn1fed are you actually stupid Nude. It means not clothed. It also means skin toned. There are millions upon billions of ever so slightly different skin tones.
Sisters! I was out shopping with my friend one day, who is black. We walked into one of those shoe stores where the walls are stark white and lit from within, and she stopped, looked around dramatically, and said, "Where are you??!!" HAHAHAHAHA!
Yeet McGee You don’t, like every other foundation you swatch, buy it and remember. This video literally proves you shouldn’t use the same shade for every brand. You don’t need to know every fucking name. Just yours.
Yeet McGee look at the bottle...? I think looking at the bottle/swatching is easier than remembering the exact shade of an almond... how do you think foundations that are numbered work?
Les livresqueries du bonbon honestly, numbers make more sense and names don't do much. You wouldn't know if nude rose (or whatever) is brighter or darker than ivory but you can definetly say that 16 is higher than 12 so depending on which way it goes (high numbers are mostly dark) you can tell it's darker/brighter. Also, it tells you how far the shades are apart.
I use maybelline dream matte mousse. I mix it with sunscreen and moisturiser to make it lighter, because even light porcelain (The lightest shade) looks like 10 layers of fake tan.
The point I was trying to make was that in this modern age its silly to name foundations after countries, there isnt really an average people migrate and travel more now than they ever have before. There are dark and medium and light colours in every nation.
I do understand why this is problematic but my matches with Nars are still pretty close to my origins I was happy with their names.. But I still wished they changed to numbers I really prefer it it is more complete in a way
I had no idea they had foundations named after countries so i looked it up and found out that their second lightest one is called ”Finland.” As a Finn, that sounds pretty accurate. 😂
I'd say usually you're right. But every now and then you get a foundation that is named something that doesn't match any of the other foundations with that name for example- my perfect match is Almond by Too Faced and that Almond is a totally different Almond than what Freddie matched as www.toofaced.com/shop/face/foundation/born-this-way-foundation/Born+This+Way+Foundation.html?cgid=foundation#start=1
Would you want your skin to be named after food? Lighter skin tones are fragile expensive things and blacks and other darker tones are food and things most people take for granted
1 would be white. Then 2 onwards would be progressively darker with the number and then a letter for the undertone. N for neutral. W for warm. C for cool. So you could know that 10W really would be warm and a certain shade.
@@eaglesc You probably might not have copied it but there is a comment very similar to yours which has been written before yours But in 11k comments there are bound to be 2 people with similar ideas 🤷🏽
I love how they always go deeper into subjects in terms of their social significance. That’s something that I love about Lady Like. I mean, a lot of channels just talk about really surface level stuff but that never happens on this channel and is why I continuously go back to watch more of it. Weather or not they’re ‘right’ or ‘wrong’, the fact that they put real thought into what they do or talk about really makes me appreciate them more. That and I love everyone involved in the channel.
It's interesting to hear how Freddie feels about the foundation shade names for women of colour, specially Black women. My skin tone is quite deep, and I *love* the names that are usually used for my foundation shade. Nut and spice names are beautiful!?
Are people going to ignore the fact that this is a really good video idea. In this era of RU-vid it’s hard to think of new and exciting videos that will entertain all varieties of people. But people have to exploit the flaws of it. 1. You can use your hands to apply makeup. Why do you care so much And 2. People can do whatever they want to do. Woah, wow, really? So just stop trying to make everything your way. That’s the beautiful thing is that people have their own choices. SO KEEP IT TO YOUR SELF. Opinions are great but, when their taken to far, it turns into a monster
Izzy Froyo people are allowed to do whatever they want, meaning they are also allowed to comment their opinion on video. I'm not saying that you aren't allowed to say this, but you are being really dumb
Kristen’s hair during the sit-down looks amazing! The light shining down on it makes it look like the very front of her hair is blond and the rest is dark. It’s styled so nicely too!
I feel as though makeup companies, when it comes to the "almond" shade, need to specify whether the shade is the shell of the almond or the almond itself. That would probably help a lot.
@@will-he8kc right! And i'm building on that point by sharing trivia :D it's like... a cooperative conversation? As opposed to a debate. Whatever the antonym of "debate" is
I have yet to see a light tinted cinnamon so I don't mind if they call a shade for a deeper skin tone cinnamon. The naming of a foundation is not the issue. It's the shade variation the company has available for a variety of women. If the brand has only 5 shades, they're only focused on the people with the 5 shades. That's what makes Fenty, Make Up Forever, MAC and Nars truly great brands for a skin tones across the board because they make their product accessible to VARIOUS skin tones.
In ten years I'm going to release a foundation line and use a noun generator to pick the names. Yo-yo, armchair, pinecone, and sledgehammer will be the best sellers
Scarlett_Wings :3 I hope makeup companies keep in mind that all their tones are nude and not just one white tone that was said to be nude in crayola boxes
The only name I have a problem with is “nude” because literally every skin tone is nude. Most names like ivory and almond and caramel are just boring generic foundation shade names to me. You can tell most companies put very little thought into it
That said, white women are generally given shades that connote something of greater value...like ivory or porcelain or alabaster as opposed to coffee and hazelnut. Obviously that's not as bad as the geography thing, or when only fair skin is considered "nude" which implies that fair skin is somehow more human or natural...but either way it's unpleasant.
I agree, those ones were messed up. I'm always curious who picks foundation names though.... and why my fave foundation brand thinks my skin should be called milkshake.....?
I think it’s because of her Rosacea. I think she’s mentioned that her skin tone is all over the place (she’ll have blotches of redness) so I was kinda assuming that was why she went heavy with her foundation. To get more of an even color.
Lol I was looking through the comments to see if there were any about him actually and surprisingly there weren’t much. I only saw two, yours and one other person.
Originally it was to help find a shade by relating it to common objects. I don’t think the initial intent was to fetishize people. Now, yea, companies get lazy and name them inaccurate names & that is indeed bs.
when she said cinnamon as a name feeds into stereotype i was like.. k.. cinnamon is a shade of brown. sometimes they name paler shades stuff like oats and sand or whatever, but i literally just assume its a name for a shade for the sake of giving it a telling name. i dont think they mean anything else by it. theres nothing about sand or oats that can be fetishized, in fact if it were to mean anything it would imply that if youre this shade then you have no personality. id rather be compared to spice then have no personality. i dont know, sometimes i think they reach for stereotypes a bit to far in buzzfeed
I think if it was like Fenty beauty from the beginning people would complain about their number. I'm super pale so all my foundations are the porcelain, light, fair, fair beige, ect. it's just how the beauty company decided to name it. I don' t think any beauty line should be based on the name, because imagine if an eye shadow palette wasn't named by color and by numbers.
This is such a stretch in my opinion. As a person of color, the names of foundation have never bothered me. My skin is brown. Cinnamon, caramel, peanut butter, sand, and almond are also brown, with distinctive shades and undertones. I feel the intent in the beauty industry by naming their shades these colors isn't to degrade anyone's race, but to give you an idea of what shade of brown you are picking up and what sort of undertones the foundation shade might have. The real issue in the beauty industry for people of color in my opinion is shade inclusivity. More often than not, people with really deep skin tones, or really light skin tones can't buy certain foundations because cosmetic companies don't consider us.
i mean yh i feel like ivory, is calling me a slab of stone, i would much rather have smthing delicious sounding like roasted almond tbh, i was a bit irked on how long they went on about it. i much rather have companies expanding colours and undertones than really care baout the naming of said colours. i have a friend that's super super pale, and it is impossible for her to find a good match :/
Why don't they just name shades with compliments, like: oh I'm stunning, oh I'm a genius. It would be great and I think it would make people smile while doing their makeup
I'm a woman of colour, and I've never thought the term 'cinnamon' would have any other implication other than what shade of brown I was looking at. I think they're reeaaallly over thinking this.
I love how theres, like, 9.9 million views and people have only started commenting in the last 18 hours. Like, WhAT ThE HecK? Edit: Ok I've come back after a month and there's comments from a year ago... wha-
addison braden Really?? Even the drugstores in my city don’t allow people to swatch. Even if I went to a makeup store like Ulta, that does have a section with drugstore makeup products, I could never swatch those too
The point is us whites are expensive things jewellery is made out of, and black women are consumables. If you can make the mental jump to describe a naturally appearing skin tone "porcelain", you can find a way to describe a dark skin in a way that doesn't make you sound like a cannible.
markeya lee I think she just meant that her skin already looks so good, the foundation doesn't really make any difference (so why use a product that doesn't even make her look different/better in any way)
Foundation also helps to keep other stuff like bronzer for more time so even with really smooth skin is not pointless to have one with a good match with your skin. :)
Everyone repeat after me: Having an opinion is okay. Expecting everyone else to share it is arrogance. Doesn't matter who you are, what your opinion is - everyone is entitled to their opinion. You are not entitled to control other people's opinion's. You are not entitled to bully other people for their opinions. Whether you're yelling at people for being "too sensitive" about foundation colours or you're shouting at people who think the colours are NBD because they're clearly being racist or dismissive, you're wrong by default because you are entitled to YOUR opinion, guys, you're not entitled to everyone else's. Food for thought ;)
Annie Lucy it may bother someone if they have opposing views but one cannot control them. As a gay person it bothers me when people hate gays but I cannot do anything, education of issues is great but force is incorrect no matter the opinion. I completely agree with you m.
Okay, but have you ever considered that typing a comment for a slight minority talking the undertones of this video might be pretty sensitive? This feels like you’re saying “people are entitled to their opinions but not when they’re mean about it or disagreeing with me”...
Exactly :) the best way to overcome stuff like that, in my experience, is to calmly correct or explain. If the other side ain't gonna listen to polite correction they're not gonna listen to ranting, either. Take responsibility for your thoughts, your feelings, your actions, but recognize you can't change theirs. Sometimes and asshole is just gonna be an asshole, you know? I'm not saying you shouldn't oppose them, but don't wrap up your wellbeing in trying to change them x
Everyone in the comment section: "Why did she get offended by a shade called cinnamon?" "OMG we all got recommended this at the same time." "Where all the comments go?" Me: "OMG Eugene with a beard!!!"
One of the shades of Ben Nye's stage makeup I've seen that would work for me is Pale Vampire. Thank you very much, I love being compared to a bloodsucking monster. :P
I find it interesting that Freddie was clearly bothered by the geographical NARS names, but she says her go-to is the Martinique shade in that exact line
My skin color is usually Porcelain and it’s always the lightest shade but THE LIGHTEST IS STILL ALWAYS SO DARK OR ORANGE!!! And once I tried to use the shade Translucent I forgot which brand it was but it was literally one of the best shades but it was so light and I still looked like a ghost 🤣
