We try and break our record one more time. Stock engine Big Turbo 1.8t

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We try and break our record one more time with 18hoopT. This is a stock long block AWP small port 1.8T with a handful of good parts chucked at it. With over 40 runs over 400whp this thing has been through the ringer for sure. Has it finally met it's demise?
For those just joining in we decided to piece together a turbo kit and test out just how much power we can make in this clapped out MK4 called 18HoopT. Entire playlist of how we got to this point is here • 1.8T Stock Engine Big ...
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@jameshaulenbeek5931 2 года назад

Honestly, this is the drag car Humble Mechanic needed for his race against Gears and Gasoline

@MeltingRubberZ28 2 года назад

Good call

@carlos_ar 2 года назад

Lmao honestly. I had an arguement with some dude in the local car group of my town and he was arguing that you need to sleeve and put forge rods in your 1.8t after like 350 whp. I then showed him the link to the previous record video and he said he didn't believe any youtube guys, that he knew more lmao.

@unittingfoil7778 2 года назад

Yes lol this would’ve destroyed the crx.

@Iceberg4k1 2 года назад

07K next for sure! If you have replacement 1.8T engine already, I say you swap it in and finish what you started. We want fiery explosions!!!

@sandycheeks7506 2 года назад

“I bought another turbo for the car” “ we aren’t going to spend a lot of money on this build” very interesting words, also do a Tiguan next so I can copy please

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

Well we sold the other turbo. So it's a transitional upgrade. 😉

@rogerfredericks240 2 года назад

@@COMotorsports vr6 turbo or 07K please

@rogerfredericks240 2 года назад

Havent seen a 07k turbo really go crazy only ttrs 👀

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

@@rogerfredericks240 it's gonna happen

@rogerfredericks240 2 года назад

@@COMotorsports i be here for the episode 😝😝😝

@Risran 2 года назад

I could have a drink and watch a live teardown. I'm still curious to see how far a 1.8t will go until boom. Next maybe a stock 2.5 with a snail and see what happens ?

@bobbrown5835 2 года назад

Ill second that!

@ashtonbrandner5129 2 года назад

I'll third that!

@thehomiejimbo2575 2 года назад

I'll 4th that!

@ryanXmilton 2 года назад

no 2.5 weak 1.8t dif

@boostedrabbit 2 года назад

@@ryanXmilton who doesn’t love a 5 cylinder symphony

@k.thornton3469 2 года назад

Live teardown would be cool.. and 2.5 build* gets my vote

@GCSEURO1982 2 года назад

Darn I was hoping for a bigger explosion but it’s impressive how it didn’t

@lightofthenight08 2 года назад

Live stream the teardown and for the new engine, I say a stock 2.5, throw a turbo and see how far it can go

@kwashington2181 2 года назад

Your tuning capabilities is very wicked, with all that boost and factory rods still in good standing i'm very impressed. Wish i could get you to tune my 1.8t.

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

Much appreciated. 👍

@justinc.6339 Год назад

You do tune cars for a living right ? You take customers still lol?

@justinc.6339 Год назад

I would like you to tune the awd 1.8 man

@bobbrown5835 2 года назад

Thanks for all the great vw tuning content. I have been searching for this content and recently found you channel and have been binge watching whenever i can. It was the first channel I hit the notifications button for.

@boostedrabbit 2 года назад

Would love to see a stock 07k push the limits!

@creatoramongfriends 2 года назад

Send it to the moon @comotorsports!

@easycomeeasygo8901 2 года назад

I was under the impression that the 07 cant make as much with stock internals. ???

@boostedrabbit 2 года назад

@@easycomeeasygo8901 I’m putting down 400whp on stock internals. At 3000 pounds it’s pretty decent.

@creatoramongfriends 2 года назад

@@easycomeeasygo8901 some dyno figures have unopened motors making 400-450ish. (depending on the dyno)

@creatoramongfriends 2 года назад

@@boostedrabbit what pressure and turbo did that get you 400? I'm @14lbs un-dynoed UM tune.

@8gti9 2 года назад

Great video. Can't wait for the next engine

@carlos_ar 2 года назад

Thank you for testing the limits of the 1.8t. Really good nunbers💯

@gabrielv.4358 2 года назад

If it was an AP engine, the EA827, it would handle 1.4bar stock. Nice experiment with this VW!

@supercarmio 2 года назад

Great stuff guys, thanks for taking us along for the ride 🙌

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it

@scottricci7154 9 месяцев назад

Outstanding job!!!!

@COMotorsports 9 месяцев назад

Thanks

@scottiemcknight1632 2 года назад

I’m so close to ordering the pnp set up for my project I can’t wait!

@sebastianlorenzo4935 2 года назад

No live stream. A detailed tear down would to great since I’m having issues with my 1.8t. 😆 Great job once again. 👍🏽

@bradcraig8841 2 года назад

Awesome video Co!!

@leozhang9300 2 года назад

Super great video 😀😀

@PR03LIT3FILMZ 2 года назад

Definitely needs rods and pistons in before killing it off fully! Now you have a new turbo for it 😂😂😂 v5 and vr6 over done 🥱🥱😴😴 Pure power for the 1,8T’s is where it’s at!

@s.o.s.exploration2412 2 года назад

Even tho I'm running a AWM 1.8T with my 04' Passat GL Wagon 5-Speed i wouldn't want to throw that much on mine as I'd like 2 get the most of it so if I do go down that route I'd have the supporting clutch, refurbish the trans, and follow up with most of the addon's u have addressed. After the summer is ending I'll be getting rid of the side mount intercooler and so on. Running the wagon in stock class for the shows around here coming up. Nice to know they can handle a beating as I knew they where solid engines. Been around in variations for a long time.

@TokyoCollins 2 года назад

When you tear it down please mic each piston while turning the motor over. I'm curious if 45lbs maby made variable length rods haha. Either way I'm stoked on the outcome of this whole process it was enjoyable to watch and follow along!

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

XOX

@roystonhughes3278 Год назад

597 is amazing video and well executed and explained on the 1.8t platform amazing guys

@COMotorsports Год назад

Appreciate it.

@jort88 2 года назад

I was ready to see boom :-o VR6 would be interesting....

@jaredriley1326 2 года назад

No matter what you guys do with it or what people say, the fact this thing made almost 600hp with 300+ kilos is insane to me no matter what was done to the engine Lolol, keep killing it guys🤙🏼

@Fk8td Год назад

Insane numbers guys.

@jordellarthur2322 2 года назад

2.5t or 2.0big turbo would be sick 👌

@Everything8Valve 2 года назад

As an 8v guy I would love to see a 2 liter 8v turbo build

@BigDankJuicyBlunts 2 года назад

Thanks for the video, good work guys Audi 10vt lump would be awesome

@rjack151 2 года назад

I know the pain of scoping off your phone..how I got by for years. Saved my father from having to buy my sister a new car though lol I’m all for 2.5 things, because the builds in the RU-vid realm are scarce in my personal opinion. Scarce in the sense that people throw up a video of “DIRT NASTY BOOSTYBOI 2.5” with zero information about it lol Love the content guys, spring is here! Warmer weather! Hope y’all are doing well up in your neck of the woods! 🤙🏻

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

Much appreciated. Racing season is approaching. 👍

@vwbr3nt 2 года назад

I would love to see a gritty bare bones 24v turbo project please! Also, I would watch a live stream of the tear down

@karelkazik5702 2 года назад

Fantastické job man.You are ewesome.

@drivewaybodger960 2 года назад

I'm loving your videos, I'm almost finished building a Fiesta mk6 with a 1.8 20v engine with a t04e turbo 🤣 I'm gonna blow it to the moon 🤣😂

@jameshaulenbeek5931 2 года назад

It really is a badass engine! I just hope my auto transmission likes a stage 1 tune 😂

@MrBagelRaider 2 года назад

My Mk4 has been going strong for over two years and 12k miles on a Stage 1 GIAC with the 5 Speed Auto.

@buddysshop1860 2 года назад

Sorry I'm late to the party. Friggin amazing that thing took that much abuse! Love it!! Definitely do a stock 2.5 next ❤️

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

Much appreciated. More coming for sure.

@m0i0k0eAnthony 2 года назад

Lets see how far you could go with a turbo 2.5l with stock internals!

@Waterman-wv2jx 2 года назад

This has been a great series! Since it didn't blow up, tear it down and build it again.

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

It may never "blow up". Busted ringlands, bent valves, melted pistons all wreck an engine.

@UngluckInc 2 года назад

Great as always guys. Find a wrecked 1.4T 5 speed Jetta that can roll and push that to it's limits. Those are very underrated and cool engines. I really think I'll be doing one in the caddy or 944. I think they can do 450-500whp on stock internals just like the 2.0tsi lol

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

The issue will be fueling and tuning options to push it at all. Not an easy task.

@tadman3d 2 года назад

I had the same problem. Valves had kissed the cylinders. Turned out the hydraulic belt tensioner went weak. Also check your cam lobes. The tips on mine were flattened

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

Yeah can be a lot of things. The issue is, every second we waste on it.... Is literally that a waste of time. We'll just do a tear down on it, instead of wasting time trouble shooting it.

@EDIAutoChannel 2 года назад

If you already got a bigger turbo for it might as well test it out !! Absolutely beasty little thing

@izzyvw7510 2 года назад

Live stream it. It sucks 3hp away. Great job! I would like to see a 12v VR6 as the next project.

@floodtheinbox 2 года назад

I'm in for a teardown for sure

@turbofiles7773 2 года назад

07K!!!!! Please i think there's a lot of people dying to see someone really push the limits of the stock 2.5 and feel like the VR is already known to be tried and true.

@brandonchristian8449 2 года назад

I think doing a 2.5 next would be pretty cool

@walterpromnitz7031 2 года назад

please vr6 turbo all stock internals

@dainellpauletta7514 2 года назад

I think we should stick to the plan of how much it can go what's the limit. I would like the live teardown fix the valve's and back to the Dyno . Cheers

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

Well we sort of found it as it's not making more power. Lol

@timmigun86 2 года назад

That's good for the fan 😂😂

@stevencross4149 2 года назад

Yes!

@euroberto85 2 года назад

Would love to see a 2.5 with nagasaki air whirler on it. Throw some of those "maxpeedingrods" on it and see if they're junk.

@GreatLakesLogger 2 года назад

I'd be curious to see real world beating on those rods

@PomeloMk8 2 года назад

2.5 turbo push it!!!!

@ronniemattsson 2 года назад

Yeah live set would be a fun way to enjoy all together:) for me if there was some other rods, i dont care, love your videos anyway 😄

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

Appreciate that.

@jamesthecane 2 года назад

2.5t would be amazing!

@geoffreyperman4748 2 года назад

I like this.

@xist5729 2 года назад

It would be really cool to see you guys do something with a mk2 or one of the 8v that come in it, had one of those for my first car and always wondered if it would take boost well

@enthuzst6143 2 года назад

I'd love to see a teardown!!!

@adamquick1116 2 года назад

Do a live stream of the teardown...Hellava hoopt!!!!

2 года назад

Insane

@benjaminireland9770 2 года назад

My vote is for a high mileage 24v Vr6. Cheers boys!!

@craigosment1656 2 года назад

Loving the vids following from the uk, very impressive figures for a stock 1.8t, maybe try a 2.0tfsi for the next project?

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

Fueling is the issue with those.

@bagelbandit6076 2 года назад

@@COMotorsports show what us fsi people need to fix it. Ha ha

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

@@bagelbandit6076 standalone to enable MPI. Check out our mk5 build. It's a TSI but we're doing the same thing for just reason so all stuff applies.

@aricunono6272 2 года назад

I got a 2slow growing rust I would love to build some day once im done with all my wives projects.

@tombosixer7342 2 года назад

8v big turbo build!!

@byronramirez299 2 года назад

thanks for the vid deff following your vids on mk4 gti. you guys should build one !!!

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

We did, it's in this video. lol

@byronramirez299 2 года назад

@@COMotorsports i mean internals !

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

@@byronramirez299 well there are plenty of built 1.8ts on the channel already honestly. We'll see what transpires with it.

@sparky5879 2 года назад

I'd like to see a 12v vr6 stock with a turbo kit and see what it could do.👌🤞👍

@MrJuice315 2 года назад

tear down would be interesting, Ive seen stock rods bend just shy of 400whp but that was on a small turbo.

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

Yep torque spikes will take them out easily.

@tiko4621 Год назад

I’ve got all the parts ready to go. Just need a tuner. Would be fucking honored to be tuned by yall, im in cali so it would be a mission

@COMotorsports Год назад

All depends on ECU and setup. Email us.

@pudermcgavin4462 2 года назад

Blow it up blow it up!

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

We clearly tried

@charlesbauer1747 6 месяцев назад

So 597? That is what I have to beat? LOL. Nice job guys. If you have to build your engine before the transmission, you did it wrong LOL.

@061garage 2 года назад

The 2.0 8v mk4 emgine gets a vote from me.🙋‍♂️

@Hypoformance 2 года назад

Live teardown, youve leant something, youve gotta a donk n a turbo, sounds like the plan was to get al the horses in the yard....so get em ! Great great stuff but it seems at this point its unfinished business and we'll always be wondering because who else is gonna do this ? See it thru...the block maybe lol ! Thanks! Best viewing ive seen in years !

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

How is it unfinished though? Serious question. Just because it didn't blow up into pieces doesn't mean it's not at it's limits, as it's clearly hurt.

@Hypoformance 2 года назад

@@COMotorsports Yes it´s clearly hurt but you did say that you gota spare donk & a bigger turbo & that you´d tune it a little different 2nd time round sooo.... i doubt there´s much left in a 1.8t though, its near enough 600 which is just ridiculous !!! why do vag even bother with a head that´ll flow that on a stock engine ?...Great work n thanks for your time n effort entertaining us ! I found your yt because ive been given a 1.8t & didnt know anything about em....should move my MGB pretty well ! Thanks for the inspiration & knowledge of these engines ! Looking fwd to the teardown. Do you know about any external oil pump wet sump systems for these engines ? Thanks !!

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

@@Hypoformance there use to be some can't find much now. Some say they're working on it... But who's knows. I'm actually looking for a dry sump myself.

@Hypoformance 2 года назад

@@COMotorsports I´m going to have a look at adapting the stock oil pump as i dont need anything more than stock oiling for this...I think there could be a small market though because its in the way for a logitudinal engine mounting...I´m searching for your boroscope - looks very handy ! So many cool toys about now, still cant believe the cost vs potential of these donks !

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

@@Hypoformance links in the description. I use it way more than I ever used my old ones due to convenience and image quality is great so you can actually see what you're after.

@morgana9061 2 года назад

I’m definitely in the same boat as you , 2.0l 8v aren’t worth messing with. I’m sure 99% of us all agree. But what if you took one and made it make everyone take a second thought of them. I mean, they’re so cheap people can’t give them away lol.

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

You can't get much cheaper than a running 1.8t for $400cdn....see my point here. Why start with a 2l when these are so cheap.

@rafaelmoran6777 2 года назад

Vr 6 has been proven to make power. . Try the 2.5 Really interested in that.

@LiveWire-it8zr 2 года назад

Pretty sure you could see piston marks on the valves when you were showing the possible camera angle swaps on your new scope. With the new scope you will be able to see the valves and tell if the valves/head have been swapped

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

It's coming apart soon.

@sezuawn3861 2 года назад

The jetta front end tho:)

@kennethfrazee2540 2 года назад

Even if this did turn out to have chinese rods from prev owner or whatever this is amazing! Something to be said for old school iron blocks etc. And yeah, this level of control over combustion helps

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

These iron blocks have held 1k HP, however generally fail around that point.

@kennethfrazee2540 2 года назад

@@COMotorsports Bummer about valves. Been there, done that, ran the same dented pistons lol.

@rayrusso4138 2 года назад

More mk4 for sure,

@b5Bart 7 месяцев назад

NEVER LOOOOOOOOSE

@andrewrenaud8995 2 года назад

You guys should hit the drag strip that would be sick to see what time this thing makes

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

Did you miss where we said it's hurt?

@bigdiffas 2 года назад

Pretty good for stock engine. Built engine next and 1000 👌

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

A lot needs to happen to make 1000 in these. Expense goes 3xs higher.

@bigdiffas 2 года назад

@@COMotorsports yeah costs are going up but nothing nonsense tbh. We have ran few cars at 850-900range and most reliable is the 900hp engine so far. Key factor seems to be not to over bore. 850 engis with stroker crank and bored to 2l did crack cylinder quite often. Now with 900 with just stroker crank (1.9l) and stock bore runs great. Btw do you use e85 fuel?

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

@@bigdiffas that's not 1000whp though. 😉 There is a difference when trying to make those numbers. Yes running E.

@bigdiffas 2 года назад

@@COMotorsports that is very much true.

@robertturnbull2903 2 года назад

Here we go.

@GTsGarageTech 2 года назад

Tdi would be really cool to see!

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

We're into making power. 😉

@michelhadid 2 года назад

Fact It took over 40lbs of boost, almost 600WHP and way higher RPM is very impressive.

@alexrusu6008 2 года назад

In real life, on the track (1/4), you will be able to do few runs in this setup and it will blow up. On the street it will blow up. Load îs different, temperatures are different (load for rods, temperature for ex valves). This was a test. On 400-500hp setups pistons are cracking sooner or later. with rods only, pistons crack between rings and so on…good luck!

@nallen1006 2 года назад

And some simple valve springs would have made a world of difference.

@fryta. 2 года назад

@@alexrusu6008 who said it has to last more than 1 minute?

@alexrusu6008 2 года назад

@@fryta.this was a test but people like you can not take it as it is. no one said it has to last and that was not the idea of this video. you give wrong advice to people to cheap out on internals and spend more on turbo :)). i like things to last and i belive everyone likes this. i have a 800+ hp 1.8t....5th year and counting (only mainantance - con rod bearings, gaskets etc.).... maybe more that 250 1/4 mile runs + daily driven at some point without any fail. so i know what i'm talking about.

@knwgt5426 Год назад

Y’all taking the original comment and making something it’s not lol

@B7_S4_Turbo 2 года назад

Gotta love folks who push the limits! Come tune my v8T for funzies hahaha

@hieronymus..bosch8532 2 года назад

Love a jetta / gulf

@jennekke 2 года назад

I’m curious if someone put in some rods when they blew the timing bet blew the first time? Either way you got nothin left to prove with this. That much hp consistently with this platform is awesome.

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

Thanks.

@vmatos999 2 года назад

I love to see a vr6 12v

@aaaabababa 2 года назад

Teardown would be mad, also, maybe see how much one can actually take, after this one broke?

@sebfullick5011 2 года назад

Seeing as its already hurt, you could show the people what happens if you get to excited with the tune in the mid range?? Lets see some real carnage!.....bendy Mcbenderson

@aricunono6272 2 года назад

2.0l aeg nitrous would be nice.. super nice. There are a lot of them out there and we know those blocks are solid

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

The issue here is 1. no one's using nitrous on those. 2. Why do 8v when these 1.8ts are just as cheap.

@gabrielv.4358 2 года назад

I'd like to see a full in-depth teardown of the engine, showing all the parts in details, to see what exactly happened.

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

It's coming

@sai_co5337 Год назад

dude the absolute violence whent 1.8 liters are trying to push 600hp

@durzzdogg4245 2 года назад

I’d love to see what a stock mk7 gti or golf r can put out that would be sweet

@Red6er 2 года назад

how about rebuild with cheap rods and some SS exhaust valves and spring kit, find some used pistons, new rings and slap it together for 800hp. Also it would be interesting to see how the bearing held up at that power.

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

We do built engines all the time though.

@DSteel5408 2 года назад

Awesome video!! Just subscribed. Will the AEB block have similar results? I have a 99.5 that has AEB block and head.

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

Maybe slightly stronger, but they're all a gamble at this level I'm stock form.

@armandbeyers2935 2 года назад

loving this 1.8 20vt series and great to see how you guys kept everything stock including the manifold and throttle body just for interest sake , probably increased their prices with these videos though lol

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

Unlikely, we're a small channel with not that much reach. lol

@armandbeyers2935 Год назад

You would be surprised , lots of people here in South Africa that watch your videos , loving all the content guys 💪 teardown video was epic 👌

@matti.l82 2 года назад

vr6 12vor 24v turbo with stock internals would be nice

@MosPhed 2 года назад

07K!

@carlosoruna7174 14 дней назад

Its not dead yet... LOL rods are a little twisted for sure..

@OctaneFever 2 года назад

Would love to see a turbo'd 24v 3.2l VR6 with just a head spacer with stock internals. Then do the same as this, see how far it can go on the best pump gas and then on E85 or something

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

Pump gas doesn't test anything. It's junk and not something you use when testing the HP limits.

@OctaneFever 2 года назад

@@COMotorsports I only ask as you can’t get E85 or similar here in the UK

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

@@OctaneFever Pretend we're using race fuel then. Going to be similar results.

@gavinhelms8628 2 года назад

are you planning to do a tear down of the engine?? Was the oil pan ever removed to check to see if this thing had drop in rods??? 43psi on stock rods would be CRAZY!

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

We will do a tear down. It's just finding the time outside regular work. It's coming.

@vagscanetprogramation7239 2 года назад

For stock internal 1.8t with more than 500 hp and many runs its very good ❤ If you havent add more hp and booste over the 550 its well be safer and the engine can leave with this power 550 and with lighter weight its well be killer

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

It tapped out at 598whp but I think it was my fault. We still haven't torn it apart yet.

@hobosandwhich 2 года назад

Great series, can't wait for the tear down. How high can you push the RPMs on one with a built valvetrain?

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

Hydro 8500. Solid lifters further.

@conorjamesthomson 2 года назад

@@COMotorsports Would you say 8500 for a 16v hydro head too with springs and Ti retainers/seats??

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

@@conorjamesthomson I've ran my 16v for a very long time at 8500rpm with springs/retainers and hydro. In fact most of that was with stock retainers, and just springs. Lol

@conorjamesthomson 2 года назад

@@COMotorsports So now you are solid you will go past 9k??

@COMotorsports 2 года назад

@@conorjamesthomson yeah already solid. Soft cut at 9200, hard at 9500.