Gigguk: "Imagine dating an actual tsundere that would suck" Sydsnap who has made an entire career out of being a real life tsundere: "Yea you tell them babe"
*Guys, if you remember a viral meme video in 2010s featuring a white blonde girl wearing a seifuku and acting like tsundere in anime (with high voices) but in English and after that she's dancing to anisong unironicall, yes, she is Sydney.*
Honestly I think the Nazi Genocide was pretty great in the beginning, but I think the Final Solution near the end murdered the efficiency of the whole genocide process, which is ironic because the plan was made to make the process more efficient.
@@blasttothemaxthesecond502 now now. Genghis Khan is a top contender for that spot, seeing as how his headcount rivals that of Hitler. Then again, that's balanced by the sheer amount of offsprings he had
Cdawgva 5 months ago: "what's the deal with Vtubers" Cdawgva March 2021: collabing with ironmouse, Hololive Indonesia Ollie simping for Connor This is what you call anime character development arc.
"If Dio's voice actor became a vtuber its all over" lol funny enough, Tomokazu Sugita (Gintoki/Joseph Joestar's voice actor) fell down the rabbit hole awhile ago and made his own vtuber channel because of that. His channel name is 杉田智和/AGRSチャンネル
Trash Taste is basically Joey and Gigguk going over takes on anything and Connor sitting there as the "change my mind" meme. Love the content guys. Keep it up!!
0:17 Intro (Host: Connor/BoiofCdawgvariety) -Hololive- 1:10 The bois getting into Hololive 5:52 What is a virtual youtuber? 8:40 Appeal of Hololive 12:24 Getting into Hololive is hard 16:27 Human aspect of vtubers -Difference between Streamers and Vtubers- 20:34 Streaming is kinda exhausting 22:42 Connor wants to know the vtuber paycut 26:32-28:12 Sponsorship (Skillshare) 28:13 Profits in being a vtuber 33:45 Favourite Vtubers (34:00 Hentiman and GiggUK gushing over doggos) 36:52 Watching streamers starting out 41:27 The deep end with waifu culture 47:50 Waifu’s shouldn’t be real 54:32 Vtubers got it right 56:04-59:02 Another Sponsor (Ejanime) 59:03 Future of Vtubers -Anime they watched- 1:02:26 Garnt watched Dorohedoro 1:05:56 What was missing in Dorohedoro 1:09:52 Read the manga,peasants 1:11:34 Hype ruins the anime experience 1:14:07 Opinions on Demon Slayer 1:17:46 Thoughts on My Hero Academia 1:20:33 What could’ve made MHA great 1:24:32 Shows running for 10+ years 1:28:07-1:30:51 3rd sponsorship (ExpressVPN) -Re Zero- 1:30:51 They finally talked about Re Zero S2 1:35:31 Moneybrain simping for Rem 1:38:50 Beatriz rant -Anime and Manga talk- 1:42:33 Anime recommendations with Connor 1:45:16 They remade Detective Conan 1:47:46 Records of Ragnarok Manga 1:52:49 Eyeshield 21 Manga 1:54:31 Black people are op in Eyeshield 21 -Outro- 1:57:50 Patreon,Twitter,Subreddit 1:58:54 End
Genshin impact has basically consumed my life now but am still gonna make time stamps.Not sponsored 0:17 Intro (Host: Connor/BoiofCdawgvariety) -Hololive- 1:10 The bois getting into Hololive 5:52 What is a virtual youtuber? 8:40 Appeal of Hololive 12:24 Getting into Hololive is hard 16:27 Human aspect of vtubers -Difference between Streamers and Vtubers- 20:34 Streaming is kinda exhausting 22:42 Connor wants to know the vtuber paycut 26:32-28:12 Sponsorship (Skillshare) 28:13 Profits in being a vtuber 33:45 Favourite Vtubers (34:00 Hentiman and GiggUK gushing over doggos) 36:52 Watching streamers starting out 41:27 The deep end with waifu culture 47:50 Waifu’s shouldn’t be real 54:32 Vtubers got it right 56:04-59:02 Another Sponsor (Ejanime) 59:03 Future of Vtubers -Anime they watched- 1:02:26 Garnt watched Dorohedoro 1:05:56 What was missing in Dorohedoro 1:09:52 Read the manga,peasants 1:11:34 Hype ruins the anime experience 1:14:07 Opinions on Demon Slayer 1:17:46 Thoughts on My Hero Academia 1:20:33 What could’ve made MHA great 1:24:32 Shows running for 10+ years 1:28:07-1:30:51 3rd sponsorship (ExpressVPN) -Re Zero- 1:30:51 They finally talked about Re Zero S2 1:35:31 Moneybrain simping for Rem 1:38:50 Beatriz rant -Anime and Manga talk- 1:42:33 Anime recommendations with Connor 1:45:16 They remade Detective Conan 1:47:46 Records of Ragnarok Manga 1:52:49 Eyeshield 21 Manga 1:54:31 Black people are op in Eyeshield 21 -Outro- 1:57:50 Patreon,Twitter,Subreddit 1:58:54 End Thank you for your patience,I am going back to farm primogems for Venti,Take care Big PP nation
Connor then:"i watched iron mouse quite alot,shes pretty fun." Connor now,to iron mouse:"you grimlin,im gonna marry your mother so that i can be your dad." Shit yous right.
If any of the Trash Taste fellas are reading this, THANK YOU for making my Fridays so much more enjoyable. I can't stop laughing at some of the discussions you bring up. The entire MHA rant was hilarious (and I say this as someone who enjoys the show), the Re:Zero bit where Connor forgets why he loves REM but is her loyal knight had me cracking up! I'm disappointed in Garnt's lack of fulfillment for Dorohedoro because I truly think it was a hidden gem of a show this year but nevertheless keep up the great work as always. Please for the love of god PLEASE when Trash Taste concludes in 8-10 years, don't suck like the final season of Game of Thrones.
... How would it even suck as a the final season of Game of thrones tho? I mean some parts are scripted but i dont see them really end up failing *THAT* badly
@@Zen-zt4uk They clearly put a lot of passion and do this because they love to. If they don't take breaks when they feel the need for them, that's how the podcast can end up worse.
@@chukyuniqul I just never seen or enjoyed a series of podcast like this before where I wait every week a new podcast episode to be uploaded, I'd still enjoy Trash Taste if it got worse but I probably would think that the later episodes would be worse then the first ones since there's would probably not a lot of stuff they can talk about anymore by then at least, but give it like a year or two and wait it out till then, for now, let's just enjoy the podcast!
The entirety of the JoJo fandom isn't prepared for Kaguya-sama. I can't wait for the memes that'll emerge when the latest arcs finally get an adaptation.
@@RntLnr man. that might take a couple of years to happen but when THAT happens, Internet will explode. BONUS points if it somehow include memes from the Re: Zero community (DIO's voice actor voices Roswaal)
Well I think he just had to have a chance to open his mind. His comment about how fantasy worlds and internet things not exciting him as much as real life seemed to be kind of like....not to be offensive, a bit stupid? People make the art for anime, breathe life into fantasy stories, and people are behind pretty much all aspects of vtubers. If he wants to know about people and their stories, you'll find people at every leg of the process of this stuff from producers and their work to the consumer communities.
oh some one already replied. Well basically hololive is an idol agency for Vtubers. So they have staff employed and hires music producers, animators & artists for music videos and other promotional arts. They also hires a film crew for their 3D streams and live events, I'd imagine. And lately since they get problems with youtube copy claim system a lot they have people who's going through all the hololive members past streams to check if they are okey. lol
I was playing Crash Bandicoot 4 and looking up videos of the time trials to find the best routes. And stumbled upon Korone playing it. But like, she played it for almost 12 hours straight and finished the entire game in one stream! And was giggling and singing and having a great time the entire way through it. That's impressive. That was it, my RU-vid home feed was instantly full of v tuber clips and down the rabbit hole I went...
@@Flip_91FTW lol btw she did the same with assassins creed syndicate which took her 24 hours to complete. And the most impressive thing was that she didnt even sound tired at all.
Here's an attempt at a PhD essay on why vtubers. For the record, I have no attachment to Japan's idol industry, and absolutely hate the shady elements about it. Nor did I ever fall into gacha games and waifu collecting, or simping for live streamers under any circumstance. Hell, I didn't even care for any live streamers, even if they had a RU-vid presence and I enjoyed their content. At most I'll catch what they upload later, but wouldn't go out of my way to catch their Twitch streams. And strangest of all, I don't actually like the cute girls doing cute things genre. I tolerated some Kyoani productions because of the quality, but they were never my favorites and I didn't really care for the characters and their antics. And despite all of that, I fell down this rabbit hole. Vtubers, and Hololive in particular, have so much going on beyond cute and funny antics. I started out watching Fubuki's acapella songs like her Scatman cover, and tumbled my way into Korone's orbit pretty quickly. But no matter who I find, I can't help but respect the work they put in for their characters. They've trained their voices really well, practiced a lot with their Live2D models, and put in a lot of obvious effort to play up their quirks and exaggerated personalities. I love the anonymity of it, where they've managed to keep this strict separation of offline and online lives that I've frankly missed ever since the rise of social media. It feels like going back to the good old days of hacker screen names and cyberspace, where our online personas didn't have to be built on top of our real world identities. So while we miss out on some of the human experience seeing a live streamer's real face, home, and public persona (obviously distinct from their actual selves of course), we gain something else: an abstracted ideal that both the vtuber and the audience can collaborate together on developing. To an extent, a normal streamer does the same, changing their performance to suit their audience. But to take it as far as what a vtuber does would quickly fall into an uncanny valley of parasocial relationships. It's similar to how older message boards had users who would project themselves through their posts and activities, but the distance between the user and their account allows them to give up some of that characterization to other posters (and their personas). It's a kind of collaborative and public performance where the audience isn't just a passive observer of the art but actively shaping the narrative. It reminds me of the vibrancy you see in an 'open source' community, like Touhou or Vocaloid, where the community can participate in the process in ways that a corporate packaged product doesn't allow for. And I recognize that nostalgic feeling when watching a Hololive stream. With their anime avatars and voice acting combined with cues and reactions to their chat, the girls are basically acting out an anime. But rather than watching a production piece where a team of writers, actors, artists, musicians, and directors created something static for us to consume passively, the Hololive audience are active participants playing the role of directors, background characters, and producers. We're invited to react, comment on, and even subvert the animation and voice acting of the Hololive talent. The medium, too, opens up certain possibilities that a live streamer would find really hard to pull off, such as manipulating their avatars to interact with objects and backgrounds pulled out of thin air on a whim. Like with anime itself, some things are easier to do and show with animation than with a live person on camera. There's also something to be said about their subversiveness, too. A vtuber is in some ways a rejection of the overly produced, RU-vid algorithm approved, ad-driven content. There's no obstrusive ad pitch, and no indirect acknowledgement of having to go off-site to financially support them. We see something we like, we donate, and they see it and respond. And while RU-vid and Cover Corp. take their cut, they're not intruding on this illusion, almost like the girls are live on stage and we're literally throwing money at their feet whenever we feel like it. The old way would be like if we weren't allowed to do that, and instead were told to buy some random thing during intermissions with the understanding that this 3rd party will be paying the talent. Or if we were having to make a mental note to drive down to the bank after the show and write a check for the talent. The act and the personalized validation of the act are noticeably separate, while the Hololive model essentially erases it from sight and mind. And finally, it's nice to see the concept of the idol turned on its head as the girls start swearing, screaming, and otherwise toying with their titles as they get real about their weird lives, tastes, and otaku habits. In some way, they're more idol-like than actual idols, as they can have a somewhat normal offline life and come back as their characters whenever they want. And they don't need to elevate themselves towards an obsessively unobtainable level of human perfection at all times. Their avatars are cute and expressive and essentially perfect already, meaning they get to relax and humanize the idealized anime avatar with their own personality, rather than suppress it in order to live and breath the physical perfection of a real-world idol.
@@FedeRama Yeah, she just kept streaming. Eventually she took a 10 minute break, then got BACK to streaming again for like 5 hours after that like "WHAT??!".
I think the biggest thing that separates Vtubers from a gimmick is that character that they play/their lore. There's some vtubers that are like that, and others that are essentially just streamers but wih an anime face and I don't think the second type are the ones to really blow up. Even Melody plays a character and she was a literal cam girl. It's not like they stay in character all the time, but it's the difference between them being just a normal, boring human and a character that you can actually interact with and learn about by watching their streams. I honestly just really enjoy the character breaks because I think the VA/youtuber side of things is pretty fascinating. Hololive in particular is great at this because they prep all their vtubers with art, backstories and collabs from moment 1 so that you have all these interwoven stories happening at the same time with the backing of a huge audience already there and ready to watch. Now if only Hololive was actually decent at protecting their talent and not kissing the boots of nutters from china
Fancy seeing you here Rimmy. But yeah, I agree with this comment. Edit: but being a real person adds a lot to VTubers over actual anime characters imo. I think it less being a streamer or being an anime character and more that the unique combination of the two that really makes VTubers great.
I saw the title and watched like 20 mins of the podcast and then decided to do "research" and literally spent 2 whole days just watching vtubers Now I'm back and I can relate with everything.
I feel like Connor might like Holostars a little better. There’s one guy Roberu who screams a lot but in a fun, entertaining way lol and then Shien Ch who starts to sound like a JoJo character when he’s raging at certain games. But either way the Holostars need more love lol
It's so crazy to see how things have changed since this. Garnt and Joey have become semi-regular streamers. Connor is a massive streamer who, despite saying back then that he'd get tired after 2 hours of streaming, will now often go for 7, 10, 12 hours, and 2 hours is a very short stream by his standards. Hololive EN are MASSIVE. VShojo is now a thing (this was released a few months before VShojo). Connor, who'd occasionally watch Mouse and thought she was "very funny", is very close friends with her and a frequent, almost always guaranteed collaborator. All three are also acquainted or friends with many, many VTubers, who they either knew before they became VTubers, or met through friends. Also, Connor and Sydney are totally not VTubers, *wink*. Crazy stuff. Connor: "I need a VTuber who SCREAMS." Tenma Maemi, Pipkin Pippa (many more others, obviously): "Allow us to ontroduce ourselves."
lawl, like 70% of the Hololive members have completely thrown their character lore aside and are now just being themselves, which is great. The "lore" is still there and if asked questions about things like age and occupation they will often answer with whatever their character's story is, but other than that, majority are just being themselves. Watching them reacting to their debut streams is hilarious lol. Matsuri's especially.
Connor would surprise everyone by bringing his boy toy. And keeps his socks on and says no homo as he proceeded to molest his boy toy. Dont lie we all know he would do it. He has read enough yaoi.
No one talked about Pikamee. She is genuinely such a fun VTuber, speaking both English and Japanese in her stream, to keep both audiences updated, which makes it very accessible to those who don't speak Japanese.
Well VOMS is a very new and independant company so they're not as big as HoloLive and Nijisanji. That being said Pika's growing fairly fast for an independant thats also bilingual!
I've been on a journey of catching up on every trash taste episode and its been an experience, up to here now and hearing conner say "Who is that vtuber, Oh ironmouse, yea I think she's cool" is so goddamn funny Can't wait for the rest of the info I have from the future to pop up through this
As someone who's read or watched all three, dont let the internet overhype it for you. Its alright. Not bad. Not amazing. Just a middle ground enjoyable.
The reason why I love podcasts it's that it changes subjects so quickly, they were talking about vtubers then they started talking about anime and jesus references and then suddenly boom. PORN
Timestamps: (still working on it, will finish later, have to sleep now) 0:00 Preintro 0:17 Intro 1:10 Hololive & How the boys got into Vtuber 5:52 Vtuber 101 8:47 Is it just a gimmick? 12:24 Gigguk got an email from a extreme Vtuber fan & the rabbit hole 22:44 Vtuber contracts 26:32-28:12 Ad 28:13 Vtubing as a career 31:42 Pokimane and streaming is mainstream now 33:44 Favourite vtubers? 41:26 Vtuber,Waifu and Idol culture 56:04 - 59:02 Ad 1:02:39 Dorohedoro/Beastars/Megalo Box
In Japan, the husband can also change his family name to the wife's family name. It's rare, but more practiced in marriages wherein the husband marries a bigwig's daughter to inherit as a successor.
I haven't seen this episode since just after the first Calli one. It's crazy to compare Connor's opinion on VTubers then with his now weekly collabs with Ironmouse.
I recently bought a 1440p monitor a few weeks ago and I keep getting up close to the screen and staring at Joeys 5 o'clock shadow switching the RU-vid quality between 1080p and 1440p just to see how nice this monitor really is. I can clearly see each individual whisker on his face compared to 1080p where the whiskers blend in with his skin. Thanks Joey for giving me a chance to admire my new monitor every episode.
“i did what every white man does, watch the brown man” AS A BROWN GIRL THAT HAD ME DYIN LMAO IM HOPING TO G O D HE DOESNT GET CANCELLED 😭 CUZ THAT WAS SO FUNNY
Connor in previous podcasts: i fckin hate slife of lide, nothing ever happens Connor talking about dorohedoro: isn't it fine that nothing happens Yeah cdawg keep talkin
Yeah, i always find myself disagreeing with Connor and how hes quite hypocrite sometimes. Also, he's just the typical normie, obsessed with knowing an artist's real self, idk why they are so stuck into finding out how the real person behaves and their personality. He said himself he loves watching Tyler1 despite him almost never showing his real self, only his stream act, but he doesn't get hooked into vtubers because they are hiding behind a persona. He is just being naive and actively stopping himself from enjoying x because y. I had the same thing happen with a friend who hated the whole vocaloid genre, until he found songs he liked and just forgot about how he disliked them at first.
I find it hilarious when they are advertising their sponsors and they just literally read through the script without even hiding it lmao. Makes me wonder if they are being sarcastic or just doing it for the sake of sponsorships
yeah but at least i'm able to get out of vtuber things because of this. but hey she started streaming again yesterday in her old channel. also personally think it's good for her to leave hololive. japanese idol company doesn't have pretty good track record tbh
The fact that Garnt has had enough time to read all of Domestic Girlfriend but still hasn't watched ATLA is concerning. We should start peer pressuring him....
@@arat.bastard no (unless I missed something) but he fell into the rabbithole, simps for pekora and has been interviewd by a bunch of vtubers (e.g. fubuki & marine if I remember correctly)
To Conner's concern, I believe the Hololive Vtubers have mentioned their cut of the money before. From memory (could be wrong) superchats are divided with 30% to RU-vid (as with every other channel), 30% to Cover corp, and the rest to the VTuber themselves. And on top of that, I think Cover pays the Vtubers directly so they don't have to be reliant on superchats. It seemed like a fair deal to me when I first heard it.
I've heard in the community that Coco at least has mentioned her cut. I've seen those numbers thrown around as well as that the cut after RU-vid's 30% is split 50/50.
It’s actually crazy how Connor starts here at the top of the rabbit hole and in recent weeks how it’s become. Garnt is like the frigging prophet in this episode. Not just Connor fell into the rabbit hole but thanks to being a streamer, anituber, voice actor and I’m guessing because he is single can actually collab with vtubers like iron mouse. Watching him for instance ghost hunt on phasmopobia with his irl anime waifu just actual peak content. There was a moment where he got pro gamer on a ghost and tells mouse who is In character but genuinely scared of the ghost to get behind him full Chad anime protagonist mode. The vtuber character, the anime waifu Rp, connors’ streaming and content instincts and chat and the game come together to prove this is kind of a unique blend of content. Connor then proceeds to bait the ghost, get killed and mouse is absolutely bricking it Runs off to the ghost hunter van as chat submits a redeem to play the jojo theme to as the background music.
Connor: This episode is also sponsored by ejanimestore Joey: We have Echidna from Re:Zero Connor: We have Kanade from Angel Beats Garnt: We have Yukina from Strike the Blood Joey: We have Iris and Megumin from Konosuba Connor: And finally we have Asuna from Sword Art Online Ainz: ... What about me
Connor in 2020: Doesn't know what a vtuber is ＣＡＮＮＵＲ in 2021: Has his own avatar, collabs with multiple vtubers and has even more reverse-simping for him
Many of them were independent, Suisei actually was independent before she was brought into Hololive. And Fubuki has been very clear that "if I feel like it's a a bad deal, I'll leave for sure" and I actually trust Fubuki on that. I'm sure the companies make good money too but the talent has definitely a certain amount of strength there as well.
@@lillith7257 I'm not too worried. The JP and EN talents seem to be as close as any new JP gen would be, and considering Coco was almost certainly the biggest factor in opening an english Hololive branch, I don't think Cover is likely to treat them worse than the JP girls. Besides which, people are loyal to the girls, not Cover corp. For example, the vast majority of backlash I've seen with the Coco/Haachama suspensions has been aimed at Cover. If any of the talent were to quit they'd likely have enough support to either work independently or be quickly picked up by another agency. That's not to say there nothing to worry about, but it would be in Cover's best interest not to screw over the EN girls, especially with how popular they've become right from the start.
@@SirChickon hololive recruited exsisting talent/pro in their respective genre. The only talent they produce was the OG Tokino Sora and Miko and Roboco from Cover corp's other project (and AZkI from their music division). Other girls was either a big time streamer (with high level of anynomity and at least over 100k subs. Some are millions) or professional on some field (gaming, art, music, etc.) so im pretty sure they have a much better deal at hololive to join it. Some girl even still active in their alt account along with their hololive activities. One of the holoEN even remain her viewers (in a subtle way) to not donate big money since her salary is already big enough for her (but hey cant stop a man from simping). Regarding their character/avatar, it's pretty much they themselves. People love them because it's them so they have their own responsibility toward their own persona/avatar since that's what people view them for. In case they quit/graduate the character graduate with them so dont worry about it.
16:28 This is why Korone really does it for me. When she breaks the 'yubi yubi piki piki piman' character, you see a crazy good person. She's so damn wholesome, even when she's angry or sad; in character or out of it.
