What do you think actually happens in Sister Location, and when? Timestamps: 00:00 Preheating & What's wrong with Sister Location? 01:18 What did we know about Sister Location? 06:47 What does Help Wanted tell us about Sister Location? 08:42 What does the next FNAF book say about the games? 10:05 What ACTUALLY Happened in Sister Location? 14:54 What ACTUALLY Happened in FNAF 6?
One big issue: we've seen the blueprints of the scooper, and it looks exactly like it does in SL, but nothing like it does in Ruin. Those are blueprints, they're what was used to construct and operate the scooper, so they would be accurate to how it looks. Dittophobia also describes the bunker looking pretty much identical to how it does in Sister Location. This is after Rory escapes the observatory, after the gas systems go offline, after the hallucinations are down. So that's also how the facility itself actually looks.
you make such good points. i dont think the scooper looking so old and like rye says, like a snapping turtle is from the gas. it has to look like that in real life.
What if the scooper’s blueprints and the one in sister location were like a beta-scooper design, though I guess I have no reason on why it would change later after sister location
Haven't watched the theory yet, but I've always thought the best explanation for how advanced the Sister Location bunker is, is that it was upgraded over time. That it didn't _start out_ that advanced, but the technology inside was improved over time until we enter it--years in the future relative to its construction--durring the events of the game.
If you think about it it really isn’t advanced either , it looks advanced with the diffrent light and colors and unusual things here and there with sci if looking stuff being like tubes or wires .
I think we should take into account Scrap Baby and Molten Freddy. They may not be exactly themselves after being robot spaghetti inside of Michael, but they are the best representations of themselves outside of the influence of any weird mind-altering substances. Whether it be just a bunch of random scrap, or perhaps discarded parts from the Sister Location dumpster (I dunno what they do with old animatronics and parts), they don't look all that technologically advanced anymore, yet still are able to look very similar to how they were in the location. At most, I'm suggesting the parts are prototypes, and how they look in SL are exaggerations of their true appearances. Spaghetti Freddy's wires most certainly look different to that of Ennard's. If they are to be related somehow, then wouldn't they need to share at minimum the basic endoskeleton parts they were made up of to begin with?
What if in help wanted 2 we play as William afton? Before the closing of circus baby’s entertainment and rentals, what if we get to see the death of Elizabeth, because there was no caution tape in the trailer and the announcer stated “welcome back to another week” it’s a theory I just thought of and it could show when cry child dies and places a spot in the timeline
If sister location is set between 70’s-90’s and Fnaf 3 is set in 2023 how does Michael speak to Springtrap in the burned down fazbears fright after beating the custom night?
if we use fnaf 4 then the crying child is last to die and his sister is assumedly already dead so if you go back to sister location wee see baby kill elisabeth assumedly elisabeth dies after charlie because if she didnt then afton wouldnt have a reason to build the funtimes and baby because it wasnt until he killed either charlie or the first batch of kids that he finds out souls can possess animatonics but hey what do i know im just a nobody i hope whoever reads this has a good day
How is sister location? Why is sister location? Where is sister location? All viable questions. And all still unanswered till this day. Hello and welcome to my TedTalk.
That theory actually makes complete sense, literally i dont think there’s a single flaw in the minigame being real theory. I mean the sister location minigame wasnt real, whos to say all the other minigames arent ? I mean i havent thought about it too much but i feel like thats a step in the right direction
@@RyeToastwhat 😱. A content creator may take longer to make quality content!?! Unbelievable, do better. But fr tho thanks for your theories, they provide a unique perspective
@@RyeToastdon't apologize, making these theories in this format is a time consuming task. I know for a fact most of us are hyped, even if the video you release is a short. You take your time making these amazing theories.
It was really easy for me personally to ignore the inconsistent design of the animatronics after Five Nights at Freddy's 2, the toy animatronics were incredibly advanced to be placed in 1987, so everything after seemed pretty understandable in comparison.
Advanced robotic terminals to larger mainframe computers weren't an impossibility in the 80s, and in fact they were accomplished a decade before. If we assume that the processing on the animatronics isn't located on the bots themselves, it makes sense.
@@charliekahn4205Even if it was possible, keeping active robots like that in area this run down doesn't really seems legit, even today. So you're telling me that they could afford to make so Mangle filled with cutting edge technology could be assembled and disassembled by children on daily basis, yet mopping the floors or any other sort of cleaning was above their financial abilities? Even this day that wouldn't feel right, let alone forty years ago.
Now i am wondering if Circus Baby's kidnapping program was originally intended to grab someone for the gas experiments, but either there was a calibration error or Elizabeth was the wrong size or struggled in such a way that the machinery accidentally killed her instead.
@@Spamtonontoilet_562Count the Ways freddy was the way he was because of Eleanor. He was not by default full on murder weaponry. Especially since William had no hand in that Funtime Freddys creation.
@@spartanc173 I'm not saying he wasn't full of murder weaponry. I'm saying that him being all murdery was not his "default" situation. The murder stuff was all added later
While I think there are some aspects that are plausible, I think the design aspect just is what it is. Sister location is so crazy from the designs to the characters to Mike going to a large tentacle monster somehow imbedding itself in a human, exiting without tearing the husk to pieces, and then somehow Mike continuing to exist. I think you just have to accept that this is clearly when Scott wanted to get wacky with the story.
@@shadowking4736Exactly. These robots being fancier than they should be isn’t that big of a deal when there are ghost children and soul metals. The FNAF universe just functions differently than the real world.
Sister Location has always been a top FNAF game (I loved the change of formula it had) so I’m so happy we are revisiting it and getting more answers finally
2:14 small criticism. Handunit said this talking about the rental facility. Not Circus Baby's pizza world. And it's obvious the rentals was open after Freddy's closed. So basically, Circus Baby's pizza world could have opened anytime. Or at least the preparations could have. Judging on how Baby said the springlock suit was never used because it was too dangerous, I'd say it was preparing to open before FNAF 4 but opened after FNAF 4
@@aquatic-protogen I think so too. But the company needed a scapegoat to keep them from having to replace all their expensive animatronics. So they blamed the springlocks because it was way cheaper to get rid of
A theory that is interesting, but that I think has too many holes. - The heads in the Blob. In the Blob there's several heads that seemingly belong to old, burnt, destroyed animatronics. SB's lore implies that some things were stolen from Rockstar Row's museum, which holds quite a bit of old FNAF memorabilia. It's possible that the Blob has some of these heads on him, and if it isn't the case, it would still prove that those heads are the real deal as they're pretty old, this proving that the Circus Baby high tech design is not a fake, but instead a physical thing. - Sister Location's speeches throughout the game. The board member that speaks at the beginning of the game calls these animatronics "Clearly state of the art", which wouldn't make sense if these were all shitty looking suits fooled by leaking hallucinogenic gas (ESPECIALLY when this scene seems to be much earlier on in the construction of Circus Baby's Pizza World, giving it zero chance for leaking gas to exist). - The Blueprints in FFPS: As that game hasn't shown to have an actual VR recreation calling it "fake" (Which who knows, maybe it will in HW2. There are those arcade machines in SB after all), this is still valid. Because we can see the Scooper blueprints in FNAF 6 in the insanity ending, this proves that the Scooper design we see in SL is the real one. - The gas leak is supposed to be a cover-up: When the game released and we all saw that Elizabeth died by Baby, and that the place closed right after that, proves that the place closing due to gas leaks is either a front or something used to get everyone out. - Scott's own comment about SL being super futuristic-looking (More-so on the animatronics than the place itself): At some point, people questioned Scott about why the animatronics were SO advanced to the point where it was ridiculous. His answer was that he didn't mean to make them so sci-fi, and while they're supposed to be advanced, not too much. That's why the other employees mention that they break down so much, or why the conveyor is so loud. This was.. sort of fixed in FFPS where the technology seems to downgrade a lot. In all of this, there isn't actually any proof that there was a gas leak inside Circus Baby's Entertainment and Rentals, only in Circus Baby's Pizza World. William sending Michael instead of himself is easily explainable with the animatronics being highly aggressive towards Afton and him wanting to get rid of Michael, this way Afton gets everything he wants. The "All of FNAF 4 is hallucinogenic gas" theory is much more plausible than the "FNAF 6 is just SL repurposed" theory. All in all, it's not full nonsense, I just don't think it's the case for the SL bunker outside of the observation rooms.
Yeah that makes sense I still do not know what the rooms in the SB RUIN SCOOPER ENDING are ? One they have the checker tiles and quite a lot of rooms we can’t acess there’s a lot of panels and tubes and wires and lights everything very run down and underground then we have the scooping room which has a scooper but not the one we see in SL it’s more advanced and more like a claw although the room is basically exactly like the scooping room in SL . IT really confuses me
What if the Sister Location game was made by in-universe lunatic game developer and the heads in the blops are replicas that Fazbear entertainment made based on the game - ALL THE WHILE the actual Sister Location was a hallucinogenic trip, hints of which were passed on to crazy game developer’s version of the game (AKA our Sister Location).
@@kungolaf4499 that’s wrong because 1. We see molten freddy and scrap baby which are withered versions of the fun times also your right about the blobs heads being from fnaf ar 2. Fnaf ar special delivery made those sister location animatronics pretty much exactly like how they were presented in sister location 3. The biggest reason IS FUNTIME CHICA which I think everyone here forgot about funtime chica you can buy in fnaf 6 and is a real animatronic and there is no gas in fnaf 6 and funtime chica is like ALL OF THE OTHER fun times.
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I’ve always loved Sister Location, despite us never really knowing where it’s supposed to fit. Even with Hand Unit’s dialogue and chatter, it’s a very quiet game compared to the ambience of the previous FNAF games, which I just love.
I feel like the whole “Sister Location is one big hallucination” part of the theory is pretty debunkable when you consider the two technicians who went down there with no issues, I do still believe that the gas was being stored at Circus Baby’s Party and Rentals but I don’t at all believe it was actively being pumped into the facility
I just like that Scott always wanted to clear up "some major misconception" about Sister Location. He kept hinting at it. The map wasn't enough. Everyone ignored the new levels in Help Wanted, so nobody cared that Funtime Freddy and Baby appeared as Fnaf 4 Night Terrors. Now he just said it outright in a book. Sister Location isn't below the Afton House. Because Fnaf 4 isn't the Afton House. It's a test chamber. (It's likely still below Fredbears though) Though that does make me wonder if the Bite of 83 was even real to begin with? It was never mentioned outside every game outside Fnaf 4. (Btw this is quite literally a question I have: If the Sister Location marks every animatronic in every room, why are there five animatronics in Plushtrap's room?)
I'm guessing the nightmares are stored in that room. Even if it is a hallucination, the nightmare animatronics still need a base to allow the rest of the shape to fill out. It only makes sense unless they are the ones from the twisted ones (which is unlikely since it is from a different timeline).
I think it's not that there are five animatronics but five "spots" where "animatronics" are supposed to be. Bonnie, Chica, Foxy, and Freddy have spots for the bedroom (as does Nightmare Fredbear, Nightmare, and Nightmarionne when they individually take over for their separate nights), Plushtrap has spots he moves to/between (which he does in "Fun with Plushtrap"). Hope that made sense.
The extra dots in the Plushtrap hall are probably extra plushtraps. The nightmares were very effectively just scary Halloween props on a rail system. Plushtraps movements are very erratic and wild, I can very easily see this actually just being caused by multiple plushtraps being carted across the hallway in the dark to simulate the appearance of a single Plushtrap quickly moving from place to place
Theoretically, if the end of Ruin is indeed the Sister Location location, you should be able to map out the place by starting from the scooping room, and then reverse-engineering baby's directions from the end of SL.
There is a lot of doors and rooms we can’t enter in that ending so maybe that’s what it is, also considering the fact that it closed down and after the animatronics ran away we have to assume people took out all the stuff from the bunker and left rooms empty
if the Michael was sent down into the bunker because William was afraid, then who are the people who took Michael out of the springlock suit? and if it’s William, why would Baby call William a cleaner?
there's one flaw in this theory: tangle (aka the blob) from fnaf security breach. it got the masks of baby, ballora, funfox and funtime freddy. thus, sister location can't have been just an illusion.
I audibly gasped when I realized where you were going with this. Maybe Michael never ended up going home at the end of the day. The television room looks a lot like the SL elevator and handunit looks a lot like the television we watch the Immortal and the Restless on! And maybe there were never two people that hanged themselves; maybe they were sick illusions as well since that is another Sister Location oddity.
Crazy how the book you used to build this theory debunks it. Dittophobia has Rory explore the SL facility and guess what? It’s the same as we see in SL. And there’s no gas at this point. It’s all real. Scott just made it more sci fi than normal, something he admitted in the dawko interview
i really like your perspective on the in universe indie developer. that the plot line isn’t saying him and his games completely discredit all the games we’ve been piecing together for years like a lot of people believe, but that it’s instead scott’s way of explaining away the little inconsistencies of the lore over the years. I really like this theory. i never thought of it that way!
I appreciate a good spitball theory. I honestly think we need more of it, even if doesn’t turn out correct because at the very least it’s a different perspective and may be at least partially true.
With the way the rabbit hole of this series has gone since the first game came out and knowing Scott retconned the series at one point it really feels like at that point Scott decided that instead of letting people piece it all together the retcon and every other game after the first exist purely to keep the series relevant in the eyes of the masses when all the books and games and small detail that have been added were put in to make FNAF one big wild goose chase convincing the fan base that we still don't actually fully understand the story when In actuality he stopped making a cohesive story some point in the series and now the whole fnaf rabbit hole is just one massive troll to keep people theorizing forever and ever and the only reason we get hints at new things and discuss new things and overanalyzing ever detail of every part of the series is just because if Scott came out and said none of it really mattered then the series would lose it's popularity and he would stopped getting revenue from the series
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The Sister Location animatronics are not super advanced compared to the other animatronics in the timeline. Every other animatronic has a very compact design, lacking the many pneumatic pumps and wires that a real world animatronic would have. The Sister Location animatronics more closely resemble real world endoskeletons. If you showed an imagineer Endo-01 or Endo-02, and told them that they had full range of motion and could walk easily, they'd flip. Because that's insane.
Wait…I thought Hand Unit was referring to Circus Baby’s Entertainment and Rental because after he talks about Freddy’s closing he says that their robots are rented out…it doesn’t disprove your opinion but I don’t see why he would be referring to Circus Baby’s Pizza World in that context
I actually like this theory a lot, i find it to be more plausible than William having a fully chromed out future bunker and it just hallucinations due to gas leaks. The "carnival" project that's hinted at in Ruin and could be exploring what Circus Baby's and the bunker actually looked like instead of what we see in Sister Location. I've never been the biggest fan of the more sci-fi look of SL so a more "realistic" version is interesting to me.
So, the Pizzaplex was built on top of the sinked Pizza Place, which is theorized to be Fredbear's, which was on top of the Sister Location bunker, AND connected to the FNaF 4 chambers? Damn, that's a lot
I think what’s also kinda funny about this is it builds an in-universe physical timeline for some of the main locations in the games. Like for everything to be under one another and physically connect, they would have to come before what is above
FIRST LIKE, rye toast you are genuinely one of my favourite youtubers, your calm voice and logical thinking always brightens my day, thank you so much for making the content you do
It's an interesting idea, but Pizzeria Sim shows us both Glamrock Chica and the blueprint for the S.C.U.P.. Besides, if I recall correctly, the kid was asked to reactivate the gas, and saw the bunker the way we do in SL _before_ doing so.
Great video as always. Lots to think about. If it's true that the Rental location is contaminated with nightmare gas, then this is probably some kind of retcon. Still, it doesn't seem immediately busted as an idea. Hm.
@ryetoast what was in the box could easily have been blueprints of the afton/emily house, which shows all the underground bunker contained rooms, the fnaf 4 experiments, and sister locations parts all together in one map. All the pieces of fnaf 4 brought together perhaps.
i think the gas is actually a metaphor for the sound disks, from the twisted ones. we already know that some animatronics had those disks, so, for me, this just confirms that the nightmare animatronics are the result of the disk's influence.
Just throwing it out there. So, the guests are hearing gas leaks and seeing something during the night. This sounds familiar. What if this "gas leaks" isn't flammable ones like an oven gas leak but the "gas leak" that is inhaled by the fnaf 4 kid? It also connects the, "seeing something during the night"
Did we have an explanation for why in FNaF 3 we'd get those hallucinations whenever the ventilation failed? Small amounts of this gas that gathers without active ventilation would be one explanation, but i dunno if the timing works out at al.
The SL animatronics really remind me of cars in the 80s (Countashe mainly) so I have no idea why it seems so odd that they can be made in the 80s. It’s spaghetti tubes Fibreglass panels And a skeleton That can be used to describe a car
My personal biggest thing is about Michael, just when and why did he become a robot? Like nobody ever touched on that or maybe is he just somehow pulling off a springtrap with his own body that was used as a body suit for ennard
Sister location is after fnaf 1. Fnaf ar have a teaser of a broken mangle on a room, a baby's room. The only time we see something like that is in fnaf 4 minigames, which implies that Elizabeth Afton was a baby in 1983. So probably she dies in the 90's. The survival logbook says that Michel Afton start to work on fazbear pizzaria because of the free pizza, not to find his father. The reasons for him to be fired is because phone guy says that he is curious to see what have inside in the animatronics, and because of the corpses, they have a bad odor.
I was rewatching some of your videos about the FNAF Movie and had a thought what if Vanessa isn't a robot or a Red Haring but instead during an epilog she's at the pizza plex uncovering the old anamatronics as sequal bait
when i first heard about the hallucinogenic gas story, i immediately thought of the gas leak news from SL - happy to know i wasn't the only one! idk if the entire theory is right, but the fact that SL, the FNAF4 house and FF location are all in close proximity makes me think that it might not be as far fetched as it sounds. crying child might've been in the Truman Show before Truman Show even existed 😂
Another interesting lore revelation in Dittophobia is the confirmation of Sister Location’s placement in the timelines. Rory has been in the experiments for 10 years. Thanks to SL we know that the experiments started in 1983 at the earliest (remember the password we use to see the FNaF 4 house which is called an “observation rooms”) In Dittophobia the FunTimes are still normal and not part of Ennard in 1993 (1983 + 10= 1993) and we know FNaF 1 happened in 1993, so this means Ennard wasn’t created at the time of FNaF 1, so the events of SL still haven’t happened in 1993, confirming FNaF SL takes place after FNaF 1
(just a thought) What if all the games up to sl are just dreams or hallucinations as well? The minigames from fnaf 4 show what the subject (Michael?) experienced in those experiments, and the result of that are dreams or nightmares that are the games we play, especially fnaf 1,2 and 3. That would sorta make the "dream theory" make sense, because he would dream about the urban legends and stories he hears from the kids and about the purple person he sees in the shadows etc. Maybe that IS the experiment. William afton wanted to find out how this hallucination gas worked, so he built this facility and created this scenarios and stories and put his son he hated to live that every day under the influence of the gas, and he would (somehow, idk) monitor his nightmares (the games 1,2,3) to know if it was working.
15:14 While I'm really skeptical about the main theory of this video, I 100% agree with this part. I believe the crying child is stuck in a chamber and isn't actually living a real life.
I always thought of fnaf 4 as some weird distorted version of bite victims memory’s, like a messed up experiment where William attempted convincing someone that they were his son. The mini games being false memories/experiences created by William to trick his victim into believing they’re someone they aren’t, maybe even believing they’ve already died. Maybe it would be an experiment to see if he could bring his dead sons memory’s back, although I don’t know why he’d want to.
You mentioned the gas would make him see everything more “futuristic” right? So why does the scooper in SL look less futuristic than the scooper room in ruins? It seems to look a bit downgraded. Not to mention we’ve seen blueprints of the SL scooper in Fnaf6. I do like this theory however that would be an amazing twist.
Sister Location bunker doesnt necessarily need to be deep, don't forget the halogenic gas and just some elevator trickery could also be responsible to make you think it was a long and deep elevator ride when in reality it's just going 1-2 floors down.. That or simply it was built in an old abandoned ex-military (nuclear) bunker of some sort.
This theory also explains both the giant server rack in the control room of the bunker and the capabilities of the bots. In order to handle the complex movements of their architecture, they would need 40 or 64-bit processors and a ton of memory, but if these bots were actually basically mobile terminals for a larger mainframe located in a central control room, the features they boast could have been possible in the late 80s or early 90s, with advanced sound processing and text-to-speech programs already kinda existing at the time.
I think Crying Child did have nightmares but they were different and irregularly spaced out. Then,of course,he died. I suspect his agony was captured by William in the illusion disks and torture Mike by recreating the monsters from Crying Child’s nightmares and putting them in his own torture chamber. Considering all the FNAF 4 callbacks in Security Breach,I think the “In your dreams” weird wooden things could have been the original things William used to torture Mike (or some similar marionette) before upgrading to robots
Before I watch this theory in full. I think the springlock suit we're in, in the cutscene. Could be the Ella doll. I now the book, game and movie lore aren't 100% but as most people think we should use all of them to help solve eachother. In the movie there is a springlock suit that looks very similar to the Ella doll from the books. Altough the looks don't really fit the funtime style(the colours and the cheeks kinda do though) It's a thought. We still(as far as I know) don't have a game universe design for the Ella doll(if there even is one in the games, we don't know for certain)
im 100% with you in this theory, but then again i dont quite understand something; (funtime) chica is a Henry’s thing, like circus baby since it SHOULD be a charlie bot, but the thing i dont understand is what does she have to do in this whole timeline? like, was she in chica’s party world or something? if the funtimes weren’t this futuristic then why does funtime chica look soo futuristic? did henry upgrade her before opening fnaf 6?? i dont really understand how she fits into the story xD
See I look at it this way, the sister location has to be in the future because if you look at how it mirrors real world Show Biz Pizza and Chuck E. Cheese, both started as diners with more dingy and mechanical starts like showbiz starts as a hillbilly show with different characters in each section of the stages like the split stages in sister location. But they eventually get taken over by the main company which then de skins them to repurpose the old animatronics. Akin to the showbiz take over. They get taken apart and reskinned as Chuck E. Cheese’s characters in a futuristic style Munch’s Make Believe Band but with space theming. Akin to Freddy in space games which lines up most likely with them repurposing the old animatronics from the multiple circus baby locations.
OMG IDK IF U SAID THIS BC I HAVEN’T WATCHED THE FULL VID BUT MAYBE THE ELEVATOR THAT CASSIE FALLS IN GOES SO FAR DOWN INTO THE GAS AREA SHE STARTS HALLUCINATING THE SAME ELEVATOR OMG😲
I like the theroy but what about the technicians we hear/see are they exposed to the gas also or just fake i feel like that alone sadly breaks the theory.
