Weathering a Steam Locomotive - BR Standard Class 5MT - Yorkshire Dales Model Railway 

Simplicity is the key I reckon! I was can I ask what you use for that? I had the though of doing something like that but was unsure of what to use to achieve a good effect.

@@MouldyRaspberry Simply oily steel in a jar. Railmatch 415. Cheers, Bob

Thanks very much Greg!

Thanks very much bud, appreciate it. Pleased you found these useful, and sorry for taking so ong to reply!

Thanks very much Stephen!

Thank you Richard. I’ve just got a little plastic turntable so I can stop faffing around rotating that bit of cardboard whilst airbrushing!

Thanks Peter. I hadn't seen that but will check it out - that definitly would be useful. Thanks for the heads up.

You’re too kind Paul! Thank you.

Thanks 👍🏻

Thanks very much. That’s amazing that you have those memories travelling behind them, I’ve seen some photos of them in the late 60’s in a right state like you say.

Thanks very much Robert. Glad you have you along!

Thanks Richard.

Thanks very much George.

Thank you very much Paul.

Thanks 😀

Thank you 👍🏻

Thank you! I’ve always felt the exact same but after giving it a go realised they are actually super easy to use. Would definitely recommend it.

Thanks very much Norman, appreciate it!

Thanks Richard.

Thank you William!

Thank you!

Thanks 😀

I’ve also noticed that are not stocked that often on a lot of sites. The weathering powders are great though I must admit, use those a lot as well and they look great. Thanks Clint :-)

Thanks very much David. You never know until you give it a go!

Thank you Marcus! 😀😀😀

Thanks Alan

Thank you!

Thanks for the suggestions, I did think the rear of the tender divider looked a little clean! I think I’ll use a little tape to cover the windows next time to achieve that. Can’t have any more unhappy divers!

Thank you. I wonder what that could be, perhaps the paint being too thin? I don’t really know enough about them to suggest anything. That’s great though I bet that looks the part.

yeah, could be paint consistency or it might be the not terribly great quality of my airbrush! Yeah 5770 certainly looks the part on my railway, she looked weird after painting but once the masking was off and transfers were on she looks great now in smart GWR green. I'm planning on buying a chassis for my ex mainline 5764 in green (old split chassis failed on me) but the best I can find is a second hand pannier for 30 quid on ebay. Do you know where I could get a chassis on its own for a good price? I'll see what I can find at a local model rail show coming up soon anyway. It'll be nice to get her going again, so I can have yet another pannier on my line, and for my (youtube) namesake! I'll paint her up in London transport maroon, L95, which is the appropriate LT number for 5764. Its about time I got a London transport pannier, I've had many chances to get one but always been tempted by something else that catches your eye that you were never interested in before until you see it in the flesh, if you know the feeling! I've also repainted a hornby Austerity 0-6-0 from maroon to WD black, ordered some etched nameplates from narrow planet, she's gonna be called RENOWN, named after a WW1 warship. I've got a manning wardle tank planned to build, there's a body to download online for 00 gauge, that you can 3d print to fit on the hornby terrier chassis. She'll be called DEVONSHIRE, named after the county of my railway, and the best county in my opinion, although you'll probably have a different opinion on that! Anyway I've waffled on a bit too much now! Do you have any projects or planning on scratch building or kit bashing etc. anything on your workbench at the moment?

All I could really suggest is a show like you have said, they seem to have no end of odd bits and peices dont they. Or perhaps ebay? I love the London Transport livery as well. I cant really disagree with you on Devon you know, I try and get out there quite a bit and the next layout I build after this one would likely be out that way somewhere! Perhaps second only to the good ol' Shires of York? They are some great names though. The next few bits I've got on are weathering a 9F at some point next week, and then I'll probably start working through some wagon kits - I'd like to build up a few nice long rakes of mineral wagons and vans etc. Looking forward to seeing how your Pannier turns out.

Thank you 😀

Cheers Nigel!

Thanks Paul :-)

Thanks very much :-)

Thanks very much. That’s exactly it, it’s very satisfying to see that transformation!

@@MouldyRaspberry yes weathering makes an amazing difference, only ever weather plastic models though tanks etc.. not brave enough to weather engines scared i damage them lol.. do you ever have a problem with dust on your layout? and if so how do you clean it without hovering up the sheep etc? lol :)

Hahaha luckily the dust in my loft isnt too bad to be honest so I dont have too much of a problem. I tend to just hoover the track and occassionally give the platforms a quick clean. My thinking is everything around a steam operated railway would be pretty filthy anyway!

Yes I thought I’d go a bit lighter on this one, I’ve got a 9F to do next week and I think I’ll muck that one up a bit more! What a great find where did you come across that? That will be perfect.

I got it off Amazon. The CD is titled “Atmospheric Pictures: Trains in the Night & Day. Peter Handford’s Steam Railway Recordings Volume 2”. It was when I read the notes and it said a V2 2-6-2 freight train goes through Steele Road Station just before dawn in the early hours of April 1961, that I thought “yesss, this is the one for me”. The track starts with tweety birds and a distant owl hoot. Some other tracks give the actual BR numbers of the locomotives. Do you have sound chips in your locos, or do you just run them quietly, keeping sound for the videos?

Very interesting, I'll take a look for that sounds like something I could also use! Speaking of V2s, did you see that Bachmann have a three new versions out this year - although they do seem very expensive. No chips in them, but they dont run quietly - there is quite a rumle! I just mute the origional sound on the clips when I edit them however, and then add the sound over the top.

Mouldy Raspberry I’ll have to check out those Bachmann V2s. I forgot about the vibration rumbles. The description ‘freight train’ had me wondering what exactly that is so I google imaged it and it showed pics of mixed goods. I thought it was a term for container trains. I remember when I was little, counting all the wagons going past and being amazed at the number lol. We had to cross the railway bridge on our way to the barbers in our short trousers. How did we manage in the snows of ‘63 ha ha?

Your least favourite loco is definitely the way to go at first. Or some carriage roofs perhaps with the sides taped. I felt the exact same though when I got mine, but it really is pretty easy to get the hang of after a bit of practise.

Good suggestion Ray, I’ve got a cheap plastic turntable arriving on Monday which will make life a bit easier as well as some more weathering powders for that very task!!

Ha that reminds me, I was wondering the other day what your plans were in terms of livery and crest for yours. Have you decided yet or am I jumping the gun a bit? Speaking of 9Fs, I may or may not have one arriving in the post on Monday.......

At first my thoughts were to go lined green Evening Star, but then I thought it would be best in freight loco black - at least for a while. If I fancied a change then I could change to lined green later on... Looking forward to seeing how you weather your 9F. Are you going for a light weathering or the full unkempt state that the 9Fs typically found themselves in?

Yeah I like the black as well. Like you say; when you fancy a change you can switch it up. I think I’ll go heavier rather than lighter. When you look at state of them in some of the photos back in the day, I don’t really think you could over do it! I’ll keep you posted. Looking forward to your next update.

Thanks mate. Yeah the GCR’s is great, I don’t blame you. I got this one a bit cheaper second hand. But I’d get the telecaster first 😉

@@MouldyRaspberry yeah lol! Glad you agreed

Thanks Stephen.

I’m going to do that exact same thing!

Thanks Brian, appreciate it. As much as I’d love to head to the Glasgow exhibition it’s a bit of a trek for me! Hoping to get up your way in the summer though, get some hiking in as well as a trip on the Jacobite perhaps!

The airbrush itself is just the regular double action airbrush from EverythingAirbrush.com. I’ll link a very similar kit to the one I have. AS18-2 was the compressor I got. www.everythingairbrush.com/airbrushing-kits-brand/as-18-compressor-two-airbrush-starter-kit.html

Many thanks for the information.

Probably came to work drunk. Or maybe that’s the fireman having a rest.

@@MouldyRaspberry While the driver shovels coal and no-one is at the controls for brake, regulator and cut-off

They both must be drunk!

I had thought about getting one for ages as well and would absolutely recommend it. I didn’t know very much about them but spoke to a few people that do, and they all recommend a ‘piston type’ compressor as this basically allows a really constant pressure and steady supply of air. They also recommended a double action airbrush so you can control the amount of paint very easily and precisely. They are dead easy to use as well I had a practise on a wagon for 5 minutes and then started on a loco..... you do have a play around thinning the paint though. Hope this was helpful mate. I’ll link a very similar kit to the one I have. AS18-2 was the compressor I got. www.everythingairbrush.com/airbrushing-kits-brand/as-18-compressor-two-airbrush-starter-kit.html

Mouldy Raspberry Very helpful, thank you. I’ve saved the link. Much obliged.

That’s true, I wish a couple more could have been saved.

Break it up with a hammer after wrapping it in a plastic bag, and then literally just crush it when it’s in smaller chunks. Can get a bit messy!

@@MouldyRaspberry thank you.

Thanks very much William. It’s all good matey we are all entitled to our opinions! I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you though simply because all the photos, videos, and people who worked under BR suggest the complete opposite! Once the decision had been made to scrap the steam fleet and move to diesel in the 1960s maintenance and cleaning nearly stopped on them all together. In most cases you couldn’t even see the tender logo and number because of the filth, steam was often leaking from the cylinders/boiler, limescale and rust covered the boiler and cylinders.. crazy how bad they were really. Why spend taxpayers money cleaning and maintaining locomotives that would be scrapped the following month/year? I’ll send a link to some 1960s footage. You won’t see a loco as clean at this on in it! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-G7tnZjTJBv0.html

Mouldy Raspberry actually, when you describe it that way it’s seems very obviously right! And I would definitely bow to your better knowledge than mine!!!! I have to say that the level of realism in your layout is just incredible, if feels like you have literally created a piece of the dales .... I love that area as I lived in York for 12 years and it is such a beautiful county! One thing that struck me is that everyone should be very grateful for being able to see your creation.... I am!

To be honest I thought the same as you when I started researching the period, I couldn’t believe how run down a lot of the network was then. I do love York as well, lucky man to have lived in those parts for 12 years! That’s very kind of you to say so, much appreciated. I often think how crazy it is that however many thousands of people have seen the inside of my loft haha! RU-vid’s a blessing really for seeing all the layouts that would otherwise only be seen by a few.

Mouldy Raspberry I absolutely agree, but I’m currently watching your brick wall weathering video and learning yet more.... I love the cork walls too and the corrugated fencing is just brilliant.... I think one of the best things about this hobby is how we can always come up with something new to do to create what, I think in your case, is definitely “hyper” realistic scenes. You have a definite follower in me mate!