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Gunpowder was invented in China during the tang dynasty in the 9th century, so "1500" seems a bit (more then half a millenium) late to "start the gunpowder age" ;) Also, I am not sure if repeating crossbows, catapults, etc, didn't at least partially make it less dependent on JUST muscular strength before that all the way back to ancient times. And I am sure generals and leaders needed to think back then too, lay ambushes, logistics, etc. Also, marching tens of kilometers a day with many dozens of kilograms on your back of kit requires muscle. What I mean to say is - it smells like BS. And the gunpowder part is just very very wrong outside of Europe. Apart from that small part, great video as always!! :)
@@alisilcox6036 RU-vid is great at removing about half my posts, especially when they touch on mass incarceration or politics or when I attempt to use the pronoun "you" -- if this is an application of AI, it's a clear demonstration that it doesn't work.
@@rdbchase yep. I can't actually post an example of what he's said here (or at least what he means), because the robot thinks I'm saying it. A person moderating would be able to understand context. Just another problem with having our public fora being privately owned social media. They'll censor for advertisers, aren't responsible as publishers, they'll do it bluntly and ruin free speech, and won't actually catch the racists.
Well, half of it is done. But yeah, I used to get in the live stream late, not I just miss them entirely. They're also having more explanations that aren't just battles, so they're reusing the old soundtracks as well, which is really nostalgic.
Yep, Georgia Green in Socorro, New Mexico. A student at the blind University of New Mexico was able to feel the bomb and asked her brother-in-law who was driving at the time "What was that?" Thanks for sharing.
So terrifying to think that the same war that started with cavalry units still in use by many countries, ultimately ended with the use of Nuclear weapons
The speed of technological developments in that period are still mind-numbing. Don't know, but I suspect much of that (at least in the USA) was due to Fed. Govt. regulatory agencies "getting out of the way" as part of the overall Allied war effort.
@@NVRAMboi You're making assumptions based on ideology rather than history. In fact the US economy has never been as highly regulated and directed from Washington before or since as it was in WW2. Every aspect - access to technology, how much coal each factory could get, which family farm could purchase tractor tires, how much sugar and coffee a family could purchase each week - was strictly regulated. The national maximum speed limit was 35mph. What was different was the national unity, a willingness to accept sacrifices and direction from the government in service of the larger goal of victory. The WW2 experience of the need for federal support and leadership to achieve large national goals led to a postwar consensus between Republicans and Democrats on a strong role for government, seen in everything from the interstate highway system to the moon landing.
A lot of gold of Allied nations, stored in the US during the war and kept there after due to Bretton Woods, has gone missing since. Fishy stuff happened due to that accord.
@@ChrisCrossClash Well, while everybody thinks the US is the new Rome, it instead follows the Athenian model instead. As in having a large military and offering protection to others via a military alliance system. Where the members pay Athens or into the common alliance treasury. And which the Athenians brought to Athens and used it to fund building the Parthenon and Acropolis with it.
"Albert? When I came to you with those calculations, we thought we might start a chain reaction that would destroy the entire world..." "I remember it well. What of it?" "I believe we did."
I've never heard of the suicide mines before. Although a diver attaching a mine to the bottom of a ship then detonating it is less "going down with the ship" and more "the ship goes down on you."
Why the heck does it need to be a suicide mission? The frogmen of X Flottiglia MAS rode human torpedos and attached mines to British battleships and lived to see their mommas and mistresses again. Bravery doesn't necessarily require death.
There was a little ship that sailed on the sea And the name of the ship was the Golden Willow Tree And she sailed on the low and lonesome water And she sailed on the lonesome sea Up stepped a little sailor, saying "What'll you give to me If I sink that ship to the bottom of the sea If I sank her in the low and lonesome water If I sank her in the lonesome sea" "Well I have a house and I have land And I have a daughter who shall be at your command If you'll sink her in the low and lonesome water If you'll sink her in the lonesome sea"”
To quote a Rush song "Imagine a place Where it all began They gathered from across the land To work in the secrecy of the desert sand All of the brightest boys To play with the biggest toys More than they bargained for"
Do you realize the Moon landing by Apollo 11's EAGLE by Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin AND the Trinity Test, both happened on July 20? A mere 24 years later. 24 years before now was 2000.
The Trinity test occurred on July 16, 1945. Apollo 11 *launched* on July 16, 1969. The landing occurred on July 20, 1969, 55 years ago today. I watched as a six-year old.
That's an interesting observation! Just a small correction: while the Apollo 11 Moon landing by Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin did indeed occur on July 20th, the Trinity Test actually took place on July 16th. It was actually the launching of Apollo 11 that matches the day.
He has the date wrong. The Trinity Test was on July 16, 1945 not July 20. He did not do his homework before posting this video and lost all credibility in his opening statement.
1:00 "tours the rubble of Berlin", this reminds me of a line from one of P.J. O'Rourke's articles about European tourists seeing "the glory that was Rome, the grandeur that was Greece, and the charred pile of rubble that was Pompeii".
It may have been charred, but from a cultural and historical POV Pompeii trumps Rome and Athens combined. Most of what we know of Roman art today we know because of what we found at Pompeii.
An older friend of mine, now long gone, was a sonar operator in the Coast Guard on a corvette in the Pacific in WW2. He spoke of how they would exchange ships with the Soviets, the Soviets getting new ships as the Coasties took the ship used by the Soviets back to American shipyards for refit. He said the Russians were friendly and quite liberal with vodka but that their ships stank so badly that almost all the American crew slept topside even in the bitter cold of the North Pacific, They spent a great deal of their time on the transit back hosing and steaming the interior as they approached American ports. He enlisted when he was 16 in 1942.
@@RK-cj4oc From the Soviet perspective the Allies turned on them too. As it was neither side was innocent. From the USSR's perspective while they had suffered catastrophic losses, the US was untouched and in possession of the atomic bomb. And awfully chummy with a lot of those German generals that had surrendered to them. And why had the Allies delayed that Second Front for that long, which caused the USSR to bear the brunt of the war alone for so long? In the end both sides had only found common cause in fighting a joint enemy, not because they had anything else in common. Once that enemy was gone mutual paranoia caused both sides to suspect that the other was making a move against them.
@@ChaptermasterPedroKantor-kv5yw People forget that the US and UK had just invaded them a couple of decades ago, coming in to support the Whites against the Bolsheviks during the civil war period. Soviet paranoia was justified since the west had seemingly done everything in its power to prevent them from winning. That's not to defend the Soviets at all - I mean, if you read "The Gulag Archipelago" you understand why those ships were so smelly, after being used throughout the 1930's to transport millions of political prisoners.
@@ChaptermasterPedroKantor-kv5ywThey didn't delay it on purpose. They had no other choice. The British had to face the entire brunt of the Axis for at least a year before the US joined in. The US was not ready when they entered the war, so they needed to improve and expand their industrial and military capabilities rapidly. The US is also separated by an entire ocean and had to transport that to the UK before they liberated Europe. The US and UK are also supplying the Soviets with material and even entire factories through Lend Lease. That's just the European Theater; they also had to deal with the Japanese in the Pacific as well. The Western Allies did not have a choice, but they did the best that they could.
@@magnapinna7169 Don't get me wrong, I am not denying that there were valid reasons to delay Overlord until june 1944. But from the Soviet experience, who had no experience with amphibious warfare or the need to ship its entire army across an ocean, it seemed like the Allies were delaying to let the Soviets do most of the work and bleed.
I never usually comment on youtube videos, but I just want to say I've been watching since a few episodes in to the original Great War series. I just want to thank everybody involved with the production of that show, this one, and the recent Korean War series too. It's a phenomenal piece of historical documentation and it's been a pleasure to watch for so long. My Saturdays are brightened (sometimes darkened) by these videos, so thank you to the whole team involved :)
High recommendations for your Cuban Missile Crisis. Anyone who enjoyed this war, the Great War. You will enjoy 16 episodes of ever increasing tension. With Indy's narration. You guys did that series twice.
@@tremor3258 Same goes for the enamel in our teeth. Forensics can tell roughly when someone after 1945 was born based on the amount of Strontium-90 in a tooth.
@@tremor3258 Well it was a few decades. The radiation has a) gone down, and b) we no longer forge with normal air as we used to, so no contamination occurs with modern forging.
24 years from today (1945), Niel Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin will be the first men on the moon. Its fascinating that in the same week we developed the ability to destroy ourselves, we did the single most impressive and hopeful achievement in humam history
@@RK-cj4oc The Space Shuttle, and ISS are anything but minor advancements. They are arguably just as if not even more impressive considering just how much NASA's budget had been slashed by the 1980s.
@@tigertank06 As of now, that is in the works we have been told. I watched the moon landing "live" as a boy. Now I want to stay alive and see and try to comprehend what landing humans on Mars does, and what benefits it may to mankind, hopefully. And thank you Ray Bradbury, for helping to create a vision that hopefully fulfils mankind's urge to explore, and to do and make things for human benefit. And yes, I'm in my geezerhood now. Dotage, if you will. I retain some hope no matter the crazed politics of today. It's July, 2024. A better future for our children! If there were a God, I might even pray. Peace,and never forget!
The way Indy said "appalling" when talking about Japanese casualties during their failed breakout in Burma just sent a shiver up my spine. No exact numbers needed. Loss of life had to be staggering.
To further expand on your closing thoughts, it is interesting to watch the development of the war industry as a series of moves and countermoves. Every creation eventually receives its own countermeasure, and battles that were once fought from a few feet are now fought over a few country borders, but i think the most terrifying part of it all is the devaluing of a human life, due to how cheap it has become to kill one another. Nowadays you only need a commercially available drone with a grenade strung to it. Whatever "humanity" there was in conflict is definitely long gone by now.
This was your best episode yet. Years from now, people will remember this one for its excellent explanation of a pivotal moment in history. Bravo, Timeghost.
@@aaroncabatingan5238 My comment refers to Indy not using the phone at the beginning unlike other weekly episodes which have continued in the new series on the Korean War.
Indeed, but i think the argument they were trying to make it´s that the bomb proved to be the strategic "war ender" that people always looked for. Even though there´s still conflict, it has been the assumption that any use of a nuclear weapon in war would mean an escalation that would end the conflict shortly, but at the cost of probably ending the world with it.
But it at least was a true strategic level weapon. And while it has technically changed war, it hasn't really done a ton to change how wars are fought. If anything, it's just made countries more tentative. I'd say nuclear weapons have changed politics a lot more than they have changed war.
In my mind there wouldve been another global conflict, at least between major powers if nuclear weapons werent a thing. If that is actually the case, it has changed war. But im not an expert so there is likely a fault in my thinking.
Graduated, moved towns, and changed industries since I've started watching during the Battle of Britain. Proud to be here as we enter the Atomic Age and start our tours on the Korean Peninsula!
The National Museum of Atomic Science and History in Albuquerque has a replica of the Trinity test tower. Because there's an airport nearby, the replica's 81 feet instead of 100. A replica of the Gadget is suspended partway up the tower.
The atomic museum has a Geiger counter that is believed to have been Fermi's own counter. As a chemistry graduate I was nearly in awe. In a symmetry of science and the Holy transcendental the cathedral in Sante Fe holds a piece of wood from the True Cross. That also, if true, inspires awe.
Awesome video!!! You can actually visit the Trinity Site. It is on White Sands Missile Range, NM - an active-duty military base. According to the website, the site is open for a few hours on the 1st Saturday in April and the 1st Saturday in October. Again, this is an active-duty military installation so ensure you obey what is posted on the website. Was planning on visiting in 2020, but the cooties -OOPPSS!1! - the COVID changed all that because everything on the planet was closed down. Eventually I plan on making it to the site.
It really just hit me here, to break the timeline as well, we really don't have much of the war left here. Crazy to think too the world doesn't know it yet and thank God of course for all who lived through the deadliest war in human history, but the effort of Time Ghost is truly an incredible feat. Been watching you all since I was a high school student, now I'm a substitute teacher looking at various grad schools. Can't wait to see the coverage on the 6th Anniversary of The War on Sept 1st
"And marches alone can't bring integration, When human respect is disintegratin', This whole crazy world is just too frustratin', And you tell me over and over and over again my friend Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction." ---Barry McGuire
My father was a Major in the US Air Force, and during a TDY assignment post 9-11 he went to the Trinity sight. He said that there were still little shards of glass laying around, a byproduct of the instant glassing of the sand from the detonation. He, along with everyone who visits the site, was strictly warned against taking home these glass shards as souvenirs due to radioactive risks.
-5:03 I think this was mentioned in the book, “The dolphin’s smile”, by Ric O’Barry, a trainer on Flipper but turned to eco-activism where it was one of his childhood memories growing up. he mentioned that je saw Soviet troops training on cargo nets as a kid.
Thank you for covering the test in such brilliant depth For some reason I always thought the test happened just before VE day and it took so long to use due to logistics of where to target and how to 'deliver' it to its 'recipients'
“We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed. A few people cried. Most people were silent. I remember the line from the Hindu scripture, The Bhagavad Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the prince that he should do his duty, and to impress him, he takes on his multi arm form and says ‘now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.’ I suppose we all thought that one way or another.” -Dr. Robert Oppenheimer.
Among the Tacoma-class frigates to be transferred to the Soviets is the USS Allentown, which is notable only because I'm still miffed that there's never been a USS Bethlehem.
I'll be very interested in more coverage of Postdam, including the controversy surrounding the exclusion of the Soviet Union from the Declaration, Winston losing his position as Prime Minister and the increasing Soviet build up for the Manchurian campaign.
I was in NM for a work trip and we drove by the trinity site a couple of days after the anniversary of the test. It's pretty surreal to see it 79 years later surrounded by nothing but a few fences, various, scattered DoD/DARPA and NASA test sites, and flora and fauna. It's pretty surreal to be in the middle of nowhere and be at the site of one of history's biggest watershed moments
USA: Holy, f***ing shit! GB:What? USA: *passes note* GB: Holy, f***ing shit! Soviets: *walks in the door* Hey guys! What up? USA and GB: *quickly tears up note* Just hanging out, bro. Waiting for you. How ya doing? Soviets: *snickers* Japan thinks I'm still out fishing.
My father’s Tacoma PF, PF-16 USCG Bangor was part of the transfer plan to the Soviets. They got as far as Dutch Harbor, AL before saner heads prevailed and the deal was canceled
It was less sanity and more that they simply were not needed anymore. That's really neat that he was on one, they are a forgotten class of ships IMHO, although living near Tacoma, I'm a bit biased. -TimeGhost Ambassador
Closing of SHAEF - withdrawal of fighting forces from Europe would be an interesting inquiry (converting to domestic and occupational levels) - what was, what is removed, how quickly, how much (or little) remained.
I've actually got family out in SW New Mexico, cattle ranchers and farmers, and got to hear from some who were alive at the time when the test happened before they passed. Basically no one bought that it was an ammo explosion of any kind, and when the bombs dropped on Japan were made public most realized the connection immediately.
Burma. "Unaware the British know their plans. " Since January 1944, the Allies have been reading all IJA codes in real time. On January 19, 1944, the Australian Ninth Infantry Division uncovered the Japanese 20th Division’s entire cryptographic library in Sio, New Guinea. This find allowed the Central Bureau, the Southwest Pacific Area’s multinational signals intelligence organization, to master the Imperial Army's codes and ciphers and provide timely intelligence to Allied forces.
Glad you covered Bretton Woods. In some ways this conference was more important than Potsdam - certainly it was more successful. It created an economic order that underpinned the whole postwar recovery worldwide (including those like the USSR that disagreed with it, and also the defeated enemy). It ensured the postwar order would be far more stable and prosperous than the post WW1 one by enabling globalisation. Incredibly, the politicians and economists learned from their mistakes of the interwar period;.the world has a lot more to thank Harry White and John Maynard Keynes - the US and British architects of Bretton Woods - than they know.
The one thing about that John Keegan thing I question is leaving out the role, and possible use of chemical and bioligical weapons as a definate game changer. The atomic bomb wasn't the first "WMD" with massive destructive potential. It was just the first of it's kind and luckily could have been used with little risk of retaliation by Japan by 1945. I hate to say it, but IF the RAF used gases/anthrax on German cities, the effects could have been radically different- BUT, we all know that would have meant a German retaliation. So, that was obviously not a good idea, since *both* sides had these weapons and had the means and locations to deliver them. In paralell, this is why we had MAD with nuclear weapons in the Cold War. The weapon was new, but the idea and strategy of mass smashing your enemy in "total war" wasn't all the different let alone revolutionary from what *could* have been done before (and was contemplated mind you.) just with biochem weapons. The US was lucky to have a first bomb and have Japan logistically completely knee-capped to the point it couldn't respond with WMD's of its own on the US mainland, because it certainly had no qualms using them in China.
This week in French news. This week, De Gaulle assures to Giuseppe Saragat, Italian ambassador in France, that France renounces his claim to Vintimille, Roya Valley, Suse Valley and Aosta Valley in exchange of a special status where French is an official language in this last region (Aosta Valley is at 90% French speaking in 1921). Demilitarization of Italy is abandoned too and they just want the border to be secured.
The crouching dragons idea...I'm sorry that's beyond idiotic desperation. So bizarre, to imagine sitting in your underwater bunker, waiting to go blow yourself up for the emperor... sheesh.
The Crossbow was probably the primary negation of muscle power in battle. The main difference between the musket and the crossbow was the amount of ammunition one soldier could carry.
the crossbow while having a large impact on the battlefield was not a negation of muscle power, it still used muscle power to do all of the work. a mechanical system of ropes and pullies that transforms physical muscle power into on demand mechanical power is still muscle power. the point the book and the indy's quote, the introduction of gunpowder was the technological leap, from muscle to chemical power that progressively changed the battlefield. "today" we see the leap from chemical to atomic, and the implication being a whole new world-changeing effect such weapons could have on the battlefield.
Question for Out of the Foxholes: Why are the allies committed to landings on thr island of Borneo? There's oil there, fun stuff for sure. But why not start landings and liberation of Java or Sumatra first? They're closer to Australia, and I would think easier to get to than sailing through enemy controlled waters and straits. Many thanks for your time and efforts, Indy and Crew!
Java and Sumatra are further away from Allied AIRFIELDS. Morotai and the Philippines are in nearly total Allied control, so the waters are under Allied control. Malaya, Thailand and the Malacca Straits, plus the Nicobars and Andermans Islands are still under Jap control.
20 July 1945. Corporal James Smith of the 1st Marine Division turns 25 today, still on Okinawa, unaware that thousands of miles away in his home nation, the testing of a new invention has propelled humankind into the atomic age, and rewarded the United States with a potential complete game-changer for the Pacific theatre.
