They need to interrogate Lucy she knows more than shes letting on.I cant see a happy ending to this thats if Jay is ever found.Someone out there knows something but will they talk.
Has anyone else noticed - Lucy said Jay called her approx 8:30am & was supposed to have walked for 30mins & was lost. Jays dad however has just been reported as saying he apparently knocked on Ophelia’s door at 9am, but didn’t she say she saw him at the bus stop? His dad also said he can’t understand why when she saw him 15mins later walking the wrong way she didn’t stop to tell him. He’s also added that she hasn’t spoken to his dad about speaking him, instead he feels she’s avoiding doing so & this is making him suspicious
The one thing I keep noticing is the manholes, in this area there is tunnels under the whole island for service vehicles, and it's been mentioned before.
They’re building a road tunnel between Santiago del Teide (a town on the car journey Jay supposedly took from the Papagayo night club to Masca) and El Tanque near the northern coast. Should open in September according to the Daily Express.
Have the tunnels been searched. Theres a U tuber claiming to have received a phone call by someone who was scared and they said they need to search those tunnels that’s where he is. I would hope someone wouldn’t be nasty enough to play a hoax like that.
And for all those people suggesting that poor Jay has been abducted by aliens, think about this - there have been no credible reports of strange lights in the sky with associated electromagnetic disturbances, no burn marks or compressions where extra-terrestrial craft have landed and no lingering smell of wet dog.
Why would Jay leave the heart of the action ,in the place packed with party goers , to go to a secluded spot with 2 sleepy older blokes. No girls no music 😂 I don’t believe that was what Jay was hoping for.
@@Arcticnick might explain why forensic D’s attended the airbnb Tina property recently. They would have gathered evidence to confirm he was there or not. But the photo he took of himself on his phone to Snapchat, sitting on the step smoking would seem to indicate that he was there.
@@melatomic Sorry, I couldn't agree less. The photograph of him standing on the step suggest it was actually not him, especially if you've done any research and compared conflicting statements, images addresses locations, et cetera, et cetera. Who are you working for? Are you just some casual part-time? Is your comment in fact genuine?
One question: was Jay in the habit of photographing his feet/trainers - as he supposedly did at the AirBnB in the photo of the blanket and trainers? Is his social media full of photos looking towards the ground? Or did he - like everyone else - take selfies showing his face in different locations, which considering he was a good looking guy would be the normal thing to do?
@@kgrant3184 I can’t even work out how Jay is wearing the blanket in the photo - I don’t get the vertical folds (like you get in a curtain) which seem to be going down to the ground. It looks more like a massive kaftan.
the problem with this case is there is no evidence that Jay ever went into that wilderness. his phone that pings from undergrowth off the road doesn't mean anything.
There’s no irrefutable evidence that Jay was at the AirBnB: just the word of 1. convicted drug dealer Ayub Qassim, 2. his mate, and 3. the sister of the drug dealer’s landlord (some are claiming the man is dodgy). Also, as Qassim supposedly runs Potter Payper’s cannabis cafe in the south where does he normally stay/live? The AirBnB in Masca?
@@NobbingNobby 4. Lucy, and 5. Brad - his friends, but both of their statements can/ could be disputed, if not categorically refuted - especially since "evidence" - phone notifications, etc. of Lucy actually calling Jay (and not the other way around, as she said), is floating around online, somewhere (I saw it, but have been binge-watching so many channels/ their vids, I don't remember which channel/ or date of vid - from/ in the past 2-3 days).
Why can the family not get his phone calls & messages downloaded to see what they all are & l think that will unlock so much of this rather than going on what Brad & Lucy & the two dodgy blokes they need to go to the police over that. Pronto!!!!!!
The guy outside the club making a fuss about it was Eastern European. Who knows how he got it? Also, the snapchat or whatever the msg, was said it was an AP. There's so many Chinese whispers.
If anyone is walking round Tenerife wearing one of them he’s in the Persian rugs trade. The last thing he’ll do is ring the police. I wonder if that wasn’t set up for Jays benefit so they could get him to go with them incase they come looking for him.
Yes, to first, Nope to amount now owed. Saw elsewhere that "Mark" and someone else, are now asking for 38K pounds, due to the "heat" from the public interest in this case. A female YT-er showed supposed messages between 'Lucy" and her friend, "Chloe", where "Chlo" is asking for TRUTH about all that's gone down, and "Lucy" is saying that she f'd up, that she really loved Jay (yes, past tense), that Brad can't sleep as he gets nightmares from "what [Jay] looked like" (or similar wording/ meaning). IF TRUE - a very big IF, then ALL of them known about the sh't that went down, and all are pretty-much involved in the deceptions/ cover-up, somehow.
@@kgrant3184 With the amount of red herrings , i assume this is another . Think smaller and more simple. Just check how many friends accidentally kill friends on nights out when drink, drugs , money and women are involved. Every week in the UK someone dies to the hands of a friend. Why you think Ayub is so relaxed.. He has no blood on his hands .
@@TalibanAtrocities With the amount of red herrings , i assume this is another . Think smaller and more simple. Just check how many friends accidentally kill friends on nights out when drink, drugs , money and women are involved. Every week in the UK someone dies to the hands of a friend. Why you think Ayub is so relaxed.. He has no blood on his hands .
I always thought that Ayub Qassim and Jonny Vegas are two separate people until Mark Williams -Thomas yesterday, saying that they were the one in the same. And who was the third person in the car in the front passenger seat? He's as believable as the McCann's.
After he left concert, all the other info comes from his drug dealer friends, no evidence has been released of texts from jay, its all what his friends say and they alresdy been caught out in lies🎉
When I look at the last photo of Jay Slater, which he took before leaving Airbnb. So when you look closely at the lighter, you can suggest a face reflected in the lighter he is holding. I discovered that when I turned the photo over. I think it looks like the other guy, the so-called "rapping guy". Found it when I zoomed in on his fingers, because I don't think the fingers look like Jay's either! What do you think?!! 🔎🤔
And mark said he left scared and stuff he’s made himself look like he’s changed his story.. why’s Brad and Lucy not been interviewed by anyone? It’s so dodgy
Nah I don't think Jay went missing among those mountains I think that morning he left that B n B tried to catch a bus but someone approached him before he could catch a bus I think he was grabbed forced into a car then ported elsewhere maybe by boat.
I don’t think Thomas the detective is claiming that John V is the same person as the drug dealer at all . Having listened to Thomas he is just reporting what the guy said to him . Two different things
You do have to let go of suspects after 48hrs if they're not being charged. Also, thousands and thousands of Brit's go hiking in that part of Tenerife _ Tenerife Guided Walks
He knew he had somewhere to stay as he had known him for days before. Now this man is Jonny vagas😅 also. When im asleep i put my phone on silent as im sure most people do, but he got a call from a friend he could of give Lucy directions on the phone instead of her searching for it via photo information. Hes cleverly repeating what crap he is told knowing people will see through it and some will come forward knowing more information. Hes taking on board all the info leaking on line and following up on it quietly. I believe he has a plan he's been doing this a long time😉
Birds of prey would been seen if he was laying somewhere. Plus dogs would pickup sent if he has passed. Spanish police are very good at waiting and watching . When I lived in the mountains of Spain you always seen police go into Mountains at night turn there lights off and stay up there for hours watching all the cars going around the mountains from there high points . !!
Yes and if he cut himself on a cactus as claimed wouldn’t police dogs have picked up the scent of blood Funny how Lucy phoned Ayub to tell him Jay was in a ditch and had cut himself. Perhaps she was giving Jays location where they could find him. I dint think he walked out of that Airbnb if he was there he run
Dogs have amazing senses if he had of been in that area that dog would pick up a scent A dog i trust better than any copper investigator. I kept German Shepherds for my work 1000%trust in a dog
Having had knowledge of how the Guardia seem to operate, I'm sure if this person was local & Spanish, they'd have been more progressive in their approach rather than this apparent aloofness and apathy.
I am not sure why you are making these videos as all you are doing is repeating the same ‘ information’ as all the other armchair detectives. Not sure what experience you have with missing persons investigations?
Yes but he didn't just find Nikki, he was contacted by a "friend" to go to the Wyre that weekend 18th /19th Feb.Jason Rothwell wasn't a walker who just happened to be there.Set up!!
Theres a jonhy vee and a johny vegas, them both are ment 2 be the same guy, as in Qassim, plus Qassim,s now saying, they all stopped off, on the way hme frm the rave, on the way hme 2 the bnb, he,s saying, they went 2 a bar, them 2 guys had 2 soft drinks and jay had some alcoholic drinks, so that wld mean, jay hardly spent any time at that bnb, but whys he jst telling us this now. And wheres the witnesses that were in that bar, that morning
Is it true the b&b has had a sudden makeover? Was it blood on the steps? Is that the reason why the walls beside the door looks freshly painted ? So many questions.
This detective guy as said that jay was scared when he left the bnb then brad said he was laughing with him and someone else was ringing him, then lucy said he had cut himself on a cactus and didn't know where he was and had no water and his phone on 1% all this happened within about half an hour!! I think they are all lying!!
Qbert having a party he said he had nowhere to sleep that night. Jay said.😊 his mates left him. He didn’t have the key to get back to his place. That’s why he went back there.
Would you look at a case after you have done this one please as I find your answers amazing there are a few facts in the case I’d like you to look at how do I privet message you please
What does not add up here is where the man in this video is suggesting it’s impossible to get to parts of these ravines and that even dogs can’t get down there yet suggests this is where Jay is. I’m no expert but I’m pretty sure that if Jay is down there then why could someone else, such as people looking for him it be able to,e to get there as well.
Personally, I think the phone messages and calls would crack it, even if the body isn’t found. They don’t seem to be the brightest tools in the box with all the different lies and half-truths his so called pals and associates have come out with, I’m sure those messages and phone data have the bones (please forgive the pun😬😂) of the truth in them somewhere.🤔
Even if he 'was Johnny Vegas', he himself states there was another bloke in the apartment, who is he? Where is his statement. What did the 1st guy tell him when he 'supposedly woke up'? Still very vague. Where is the Brandon friend and what has he got to say about it all?
There was blood on a cactus...in the area he is supposedly wandered in... could they check DNA of the blood via parents..? .. It would then show he injured himself on a cactus.. and that could get infected.. but he would have wanted to get to spring water or out of the sun in a cave possibly?...
SOMEONE NEEDS TO CHECK Jay's thumb nails in the picture at the bnb smoking a cigarette...all thumb nails are unique in size and shape...this could confirm if it was really jay....just a thought
Also the guy said jay had no where to stay...but he did have somewhere to stay..and Lucy said jay told her he was staying out partying ...this proves one or two of them are 100% lying...also tye cctv of the stop of at the cafe could explain alot...he said they stopped to get a drink...let's see if that actually happend...did they actually buy a drink ? And who owns the stolen watch...this could lead to the potential person who did somthing to jay
Find the owner of the stolen watch and u find jay...or bug or tap Lucy's phone or them too english guys..surely police could just look at all there phone history texts calls,times etc
Where was this 2 guys accommodation before? Seems like they didnt had a place to stay either as they only book that airbnb not long before they arrived. And why they book it there if ther was at that music festival either . This is weird and how come police dont check evry single detail .
Ayub is defo protecting the other guy why???? Why hasn’t he come forward to help? There’s no way they let him walk off with a 10g watch, they put him in a ditch n took his watch I believe, watch would of been back in uk a day later
and so they STILL have to question the other guy . jay went with 2 people ? .. but to be honest that lucy s droning on a bit of a full tale on her gofundme
Again MTW goes into too many details when it should be simple. Walking for 11 hours -now in his after party condition-dont be silly when he could have waited for a bus or grabbed a lift from the busy cafe just 1/2 mile away.
Why all the jumping onto this missing persons bang wagon. Who knew him in person to have any real interest. All these bloggers making money of there videos that tell you absolutely nothing as none of these bloggers know anything we dont already know. What is said here that makes any differance he is missing and until he is found it means nothing but bla, bla, bla.
Stating that he gave him a camel cigerete is far to specfic. but it gives the picture of the person stood smoking a ciggy validity even tho i dont belive that was Jay
The problem with this business is the total lack of communication from the Spanish police . It seems they don’t give press conferences etc , don’t update the usual media outlets etc. it’s due to their lack of transparency that all you armchair detectives keep making videos based on speculation. The Spanish police have history of inept, amateur, bad practice, forensically unaware bungled missing persons cases as in Madeline McCann and this is another one I suspect