Welch vs Gabriel Star Ocean FD 

Yes

exactly. its possible to go back, there has to be a way.

no it IS the same welch genius.

lets hope that 4 is, and hopefully it wont be trash like 3

yeah it is, she jumped back in time to be in this one since *SPOILERS* She is a 4D being

The guy is wrong, it IS the same Welch from SO3, she's a 4D being so she can travel to any point in the Eternal Sphere

Star Ocean 3 could have been the best Star Ocean game if Fayt's world was not composed of virtual reality.

...she's pimp slapping Gabriel to death...

welch mostly dodges her attacks because of maxed out counter.

oh, thank you! finally someone agrees that star ocean 3 was a pale shadow of the first two games! i must admit though, i wish it could have been better... then it might not have been as bad. but i believe that if you could change it, how would you Eric?

AMEN!

that's some crazy stuff

i must get both of these games when they FINALLY arrive!!!!

Ilia is also a melee fighter, and I believe that Ronyx J. Kenny uses symbology.

Welch is awesome, like in my 200's now, she also has a move from VP if you complete the bonus dungeon. Anti-Petrification ftw against Gabriel. You also need level 10 music and devil's aria from the silver trumphet.

The Star Guard in SO3 gave you an anti-attack aura when equipped. Specifically, the one you see here.

Spoilers for SO3 Welch is a 4d being who likes being involved in the events of the eternal sphere, which is why she is always present in every major event (every game) that takes place within it

That's vintage tri-Ace for you. Making blatant references to their prior games like that.

what steps do i take to find that girl that drops the ocarina? how do i get her?

so how were you able to get to roak? what did you do?

damn.. should i get welch? i dont know which 2 to pick out of tnique, welsh and eris.. anybody know what their uses are anyways?

i forgot if u would could u Tell me who the 4D beings are cause ive wondered why welch is in Star ocean 4....and also in 3 which is like 700 years after...who were the 4d???

Where/how you get the Star Guard shield to use for this battle.

how hard was that?

u need get orcle to lvl 10 when get last save point when u fight last storyline boss, u use lvl 10 oracle and teles u back if u go through the left exit

@TheDDD194 Yup! All well, I can still take out my anger on Lymle in the arena! lol

What is a 4D being?

When it says near the end of the game that you can't return to ancient Roak, it's not lying. I've tried every possible way to get back AND i've read walkthroughs. It's impossible to get back.

No, this is the remake of the first Star Ocean game. SO2 is the sequel.

Yeah, the plot twist towards the end is the weirdest. I think I know what it is...it just feels like it negates the validity of a lot of things throughout the game. Its like you took everything as fact throughout the whole game and someone says...HA HA TRICKED YOU NOT REAL...wtf.

4D being hahahaha then she go to the future to help claude and rena she is a timejumper heroe

A person from the fourth dimension, aka someone from outside of the 'game world'.

@Loz8900 Lymle was the worst -.- I didn't mind Welch though, one of the cutscenes with her made me laugh (which was odd)

Hey wait what? What the hell is going on? WHY AM I SEEING ANTI-ATTACK AURAS?

@Loz8900 Haha

Welch is SOOOOOO DAMN ANNOYING in Star Ocean The Last Hope. So was Lymle. I was damn glad when I got to kick the shit out of Lymle in the coliseum.

id like to know that myself...

@TheDDD194 I just mostly didn't like her voice and her motion capture actor lol. She sounded like Lillian from Rugrats (OLD cartoon) and of course since the game is Japanese, everything is extremely over-acted lol. Didn't mind her as a character, just the way she was presented i guess.

Except she sucks in BOTH games despite that she CAN be bloody armored in 2nd Evolution so she is never in my party for BOTH games ever.

No D: So dont tell me

Star Ocean 3 is good in it's own right. Though it doesn't really fit in with the fast paced action of the first 2 games.

WGAHT LEVEL ARE YOU LOL ROFL, i can smash her easy but thats cuz i found a item that instead of doing 1 hit it does 3 xD

Star Ocean 3 was a pile of shit, first two were good. We'll see about 4.

Yeah, the game was way too japanese-esque. Too much anime influence, and plus, while both of the previous games did the same thing, albiet better, SO3 was WAYYY too much with the one planet only crap. And the fury bar crap made the game feel like you had to watch every attack without going to 0% and screwing yourself over. SO4 isnt the best, but its a hell of a lot better for sure.