The family now relive why Roscoe has been gone for 9 years knowing that his father never had any respect for him he and his son leave before the banquet
He was treated like the black sheep! His dad failed him! You don’t mentally and emotionally abandon your son and get to be righteous. Roscoe didn’t deserve half the BS he dealt with!
Very much like Mirabel (Disney Encanto) when she too is treated like a black sheep from her family and her Albuela, not only her but is her teo Bruno been treated the same way.
Just cause she doesn’t have a gift and Bruno seeing the future I mean Mirabel loved her family but her Abuela never seemed to love her as much as her sisters well until the ending
Rewatching this movie as an adult, I feel so bad for roscoe. His father always made him feel left out and always treated him as if he was adopted or something. He treated Clyde more like a son then his actual son, and then gets mad at him because he doesn’t wanna be around them because he doesn’t feel the support of his own father or family. He didn’t even hug his son when they showed he just basically insulted him, but when he seen Clyde he hugged him with such delight. This whole movie was sad but still entertaining. The father had caused him trauma
And Roscoe is in the wrong for staying away from home. He’s in the right in my opinion I would’ve stayed my black ass away and kept getting my money. Ain’t nobody showing me no love, no respect, no credit. Fuck that. Imma go where I’m appreciated, where I’m loved, where I’m respected and where I can actually put my energy into something and that exact same energy is returned positively. Fathers don’t understand just how hard they hurt. You’re the symbol of power, respect, equality and fairness. Your son is a better man than you.
@@JalenPrice_252 exactly 👏🏽👏🏽 If it wasn’t for the mom, the father would have never apologized. The older generation look at as if you speak your mind and finally stand up for your self, it’s disrespectful. And he finally had enough of his father letting Clyde slid off easy but he was emotionally and physically abused by his father. His brothers and sisters did not respect either it was sad. The only 2 people that actually cared about him for his mom and Lucinda.
@@Babygirl_fay yea that’s what I don’t get why is it disrespectful to speak on what YOU are oppressing upon me???? I will never understand what is so wrong about speaking how you feel.
These the kind of families that always wonder, “why doesn’t he/she call or visit anymore?” When they be acting like this. Whole family was horrible to him
Otis was cool too. He gave Roscoe a hard time but he still listened and talked to Roscoe. Plus he's also the one who stopped Clyde from coming in the middle at the end when Roscoe made up with his parents. I loved how he was like "Come on man, we're gonna let them have this moment."
@@jongon0848 Otis was definitely a favorite while he was being a big brother and picking on him still, and still didn’t get where Roscoe was coming from at least he gave a damn
tbh i'd do the same thing, not because of the fact they neglected me, since i had a great childhood but because i have my own responsibilities so i don't need to worry about them
This is probably Martin Lawrence's best performance. Even though he can be a little over the top at times u can tell he put his all into these scenes where he had to be emotional.
Th fact that Roscoe,not ONLY,came back,to his shitty NEGLECTFUL family,but ALSO in the end,FORGIVE them,makes him,a SO much better man,then I EVER could be.
All fathers are harder on their own children and show favoritism to others because it appeases their feelings but all it does is make their child resent them to an extent if it manifests into deep psychological issues.
@@djfreem6881 Literally being the black sheep or treated like you shouldn't be fit in a conversation. All of this can result to potential anti-socialism.... and that's just one of the results as it may differ. :(
Always loved the way Clyde stepped up wanted shake Roscoe’s hand, dude was cocky the whole up to this point and I loved how we saw how much he truly loved roscoe and saw him as a Brother, despite the fact they were rivals their whole lives.
I also loved how Clyde had a good relationship with Jamal. Even though he and Roscoe were always butting heads, it was nice to see he was cool with Jamal and even tried to protect him when Bianca was trying to make him too competitive.
Me too! At 0:51 he looks almost shocked at what he’s hearing. Even tho he was always competing with Roscoe ultimately he never meant any harm cuz that’s his family and he does care about him. Him trying shake roscoes hand was his way of telling him he’s sorry for the hurt he caused him.
I can totally relate to Roscoe in this scene. I actually went through something similar with my own father, who at one point showed favoritism towards my own cousin and wouldn’t bother to acknowledge my own accomplishments. Thankfully, it didn’t take a 9 year estrangement from him to get through to him. My mother recognized the hurt and resentment that was building up in me and made him sit down, and really hear me out. Then she urged me to just let it out, which I did, very bluntly and emotionally. That gave him somewhat of a wake up call, as he didn’t take me completely seriously about everything I mentioned. And if he wasn’t gonna try to understand me better, I’m certainly not gonna waste my time or breath try getting through to him. All I can do is hope that someday he fully understands me better and tries to heal the open wounds. If not for my mother being around, I definitely would’ve cut him completely out of my life, and I’m his only son.
I hope that you and your dad can rectify things. I'm glad that your mother at least gave you the chance to air things out than to keep it bottled any longer. Best of wishes to you and your folks sir
This hit reality like his father didn’t understand what he put him thru like I don’t blame Roscoe for staying away for 9 yrs. Clyde was the favorite in everyone’s eyes and always got away wit certain things unlike RJ who was put down by his father, sister & Clyde. I can understand RJ pain in this scene coz when you feel not appreciated or under value especially as a kid it’s bottled up. And you see how his dad was quick to get on him but where’s the energy for Clyde, when RJ said that it hit everyone
Now watching this as I’m older it really puts things in perspective. Everyone treated Roscoe badly and then blamed him for everything. Even after confessing to his father about his pain, instead of his father understanding that and embracing his son his stubbornness like most old school parents allowed his pride to get in the way. Roscoe even with being the one traumatized had to come back and make amends when it should’ve been the family.
I love this movie. One of the very few black comedies that not only make me laugh throughout the film but then scenes like this that bring me back to center and let out a little emotion. Incredible cast too 💯
I feel this a lot with my step family. My 3 sisters and my step siblings get all the applause when they achieve, but when I do something no one cares. That’s why I’m a couple more months I’m moving away with my real family, my mother, and never coming back. If I do, it’s only a visit for my friends.
I’ll be honest... Hate the whole family... The point is not one of them felt his pain... Every single of them noticed the “rivalry” and laughed it up... They did not care about what it did to Roscoe on the inside... A family that can’t see your pain and mocks you is utterly worthless...
The only one out of everybody was the mom tho she at least gave a damn and saw shiii for what it was just was outspoken. Everybody else especially the dad who I hated the most, never even tried to understand. Betty knew just clowned him.
And people wonder why they ain’t seen certain people in years. That’s because everybody wanna laugh at you but really they’re the jokes. You left and made yourself better while they stayed in the exact same place they were born in and are askin for handouts.
I agree they tried to make him out as somebody that just forgot where he came from when the reality was they never respected him to begin with or his success. Not trying to sound star strucked but My type of family would of been happy to be kin to a big time person or just happy to generally see one of their realitives make it big especially if they showed love back
@@nobodybutsunder the mom wasn’t a very good parent either. She just let the cruelty continue and then wondered why he never came home. Because of your useless abusive husband, children and nephew! I would’ve went no contact with the lot of them. Mom doesn’t get a pass for weak defense of RJ. She just let it continue and went on about her business cause she didn’t want to acknowledge how bad of parent she was at protecting her child.
@@babydevyl at least she tried stopping em. weak defending? yes. better than Betty who knew and continued to harass him which was way worse. But nah she ain’t safe either
@@jrewing1512 exactly it all hit him, he knew he was trying to replace Roscoe as the fun easy going cousin. I get it his parents died in a car accident but that don’t mean you neglect one of your children just to make the other feel like he’s part of the family. He is part of the family. HE’S A COUSIN.
That's not fair that Roscoe's dad always puts Clyde and all his other kids in front of him instead of giving Roscoe a chance to show up not just for his family but for himself too.
My mom is the same way. Always comparing me to my older sister despite being 7 years apart. Unfortunately my older sis passed away and I miss her very much. However, till this day my mom still compares me to her. The sad thing is my sister passed away because she was doing all the wrong things and yet I’m still the worse one. 😕
Moms just simply ain’t fair. They believe that just because they birth kids they should get a medal for it. Being there for your kids, being great for your kids and being a simple of empowerment for your kids teaches them better than them having to do it themselves. Keep your head up your mom had it twisted. You ain’t your sister and your sister ain’t you. I’m sure your sister is looking down on you and is saying “I got you”. Just hang on. It’ll get better.
The mom and Lucinda were the only ones who didn't mistreat R.J everyone else was mean to him. Even though this is a comedy this movie shows what happens in real life in a lot of families very toxic
I can relate and understand Roscoe, when he was a kid he and Clyde has always been competing with each other but not all his sister Betty has been laughing at him, his brother Otis has been treating him like a baby, and his cousin Reggie been insulted him, worst his father never show respect to him treat him like he was nothing and favor Clyde. 9 years from now, not only he lunge out his own father but to his family too for not showing respect or support to him, I see the honest reason why he stay away and never come back. Moral of this movie: All family are like that, despite they argue, bicker, fight, insults, and pick on but when they see a family member having a tough or rough time or something they don't wanna talk about, deep down in they're heart they truly love you with all their heart and learn that most families had the same issue as you are and want to help the person feeling better by talking it really help and see your not the only one who had the same problem. Like I said, Families can get crazy, annoying, and get into a completion with each other but they are looking out for you and no one love you way more than your family.
Roscoe felt a little devastated and hurt cause his family needed to know that he wanted to feel part of it cuase family is about love and support. Never try and be selfish or hurt cause the important thing is people deserve respect and love . My dad and mom once told me family is about working together and love .
Yeah mine are fake as hell. They all have this emotional generation trauma and always lie, cheat, desperaye for any affection look the other way around so they can puff up their chests and feel great about their miserable pathetic lonely lives.
The dad was one of those nothing is never good enough & always with the respect this respect that crap type of dad who never cared or listened to him roscoe could never make him proud no matter what he did which is why he came up & never looked back for 9 years
I know that exact feeling. I know too many girls that have lost their mother. But it still felt like they were stealing mine. I never felt like I belonged in the family. Everyone would rather with someone else in the family. I dealt with that with some childhood friends who preferred my sister over me. Always! Like I’m the wrong piece of the puzzle. I hurts. Literally the worst pain ever! And I’m the person who cries the most in my family. But I don’t think anyone really understands how much pain I’ve been through bcuz of things like this.
I WISH the mom would have told Roscoe,I know that you didn’t do this for yourself,then who? And then Roscoe looks at his son Jamal,to show WHY he came back,at ALL,then his mom says,I see,and then tells rosco,……that ALONE,makes you a better man then your father,EVER was.
As an adult this movie hits different. One of the hardest parts of adulting was realizing how hard it is to navigate family. My family has always treated me similarly to how Roscoe’s treated him and then make me feel some type of way for not wanting to spend time with them.
It KILLS me inside,it shows me how UNLOVING and how UNGRATEFUL,families CAN be especially THIS one,and how 👿 EVIL they can be,when they SINGLE out,JUST one,person in the FAMLIY, and PROVING,that SOME families,are TRUE DEVILS, and the WORST monsters of them ALL,because when they leave out just ONE person,like they do in this movie,it just shows AND proves,that they care enough,not to care,at ALL.
Needless but TRUE to say,Roscoe’s dad obviously dug his OWN grave,while CONSTANTLY neglecting AND alienating his OWN son,and not JUST with Clive,but ALSO putting Otis and Betty,as silver medal favorite children as as well,second only to Clive. And this was not ONLY a MUCH needed WAKE UP call/reality check with HIS name on it,but also DAME satisfying to know, that for the REST of HIS life,aka,Roscoe,DAD’s life,he’s going to have to live with the borderline REGRET and HURT,of the fact that HE,stayed away for one year,a SHADE under a DECADE,from a dad,AND a family,that were inadvertently the SOURCE of his MISERY. but hey,it was ONLY a matter of TIME,before his dad,AND if anything his FAMLIY HAD,to PAY the PIPER.
Here some add dialogue Papa Jenkins: now I see why you stay away for nine years RJ: they were the best nine years of my life Mama Jenkins: we love you RJ: if you love me how come none of you’ll ever said it me or said it enough, how come he never said it to me.
Okay it was messed up for him to jus ditch Jamal cuz he was so hell bent on beating Clyde once and for all but for his dad to reprimand ONLY him is insanely unfair! He’s right he wasn’t the only one out there Clyde was in on it too so where’s his scolding??? It’s history repeating itself roscoe getting whipped on the Lucinda thing and Clyde getting a “now don’t you do that again” which is some biased shit on his dads part. I absolutely don’t blame Roscoe for feeling the way he’s felt and for why he stayed away for such a long time I mean why should he have to put up with the same mistreatment he’s been dealing with since he was a kid while his cousin is placed on a pedestal?? Cuz it’s his father?? No one should tolerate that crap whether it’s family or not. All his dad has done from the beginning is praise Clyde and act like he’s so wonderful and all the while guilt his own son for not being around and dismissing his accomplishments. His dad is absolutely at fault for why his own son doesn’t wanna see him.
Martin Lawrence did a phenomenal and spectacular job in this scene 😍😎💯👍 as he displayed the elements of anger and rage as Roscoe was absolutely and positivity fed up of being " The Black Sheep" in the family as never felt desirable, appreciated, and loved as he wanted popularity, credibility, recognition, likeability, adoration, and admiration like Clyde.
Roscoe's family was awful. They bullied Roscoe and picked on him when he was a kid, them get mad that he changed his last name and became a successful man, and when he reminds them everything awful they did to him, they just guilt trip and gaslight him.
Sometimes that’s me and household and my dads girls family I need respect I definitely do with people I went to schools with I don’t care I graduated 4 years ago they matter always people have to like me and want me around a lot
I think this would have been the perfect and more realistic end to this movie. Then the end credits should have been a funeral scene where it says 9 years later... Roscoe Sr. is dead, and everyone is there at the funeral. A Black car pulls up, and its Bianca and RJ. RJ walks up, and everyone is looking at him screwfaced save for his mom. He gives his mom a hug and a kiss and says "I'm sorry momma..." and she looks at him teary eyed but a soft smile and says "I know baby... and I understand..." because that would have driven home the point of her being the only one to get him and that's enough for him. He's there for her, and not anyone else. The actual ending to this movie invalidates EVERYTHING. All of RJ's feelings and actions are justified. He was always treated like an outsider in his own family because he dared to be different from what was expected of him. He forged his own path in life, and didn't get any respect for effectively being his own man and chasing HIS happiness. The whole sudden change of heart for a family that never acknowledged him his entire life was bs.
My family is not even like this and I felt roscoe's pain. in his shoes, i would have said fck this family and acted completely brand new towards them. You don't want to give me my respect or acknowledge my accomplishments then fine 🤷🏽♂️ . I'll get a wife and roll with her family.
Word and I get that a father is supposed to protect their children but Jamal could've climebed by his self since he was able to go through that obstacle course
All that tough love is cap it drives kids away from their parents it’s the dad’s fault for not acknowledging or paying attention to him his mom and big brother cares about him his sister is an a**hole to him that’s why he never spoke to them in a decade it also explains why he never tells his son about them he just wants to let the past go but no it always comes back no matter how hard you try to leave.
you do know what reminds Me of? In real Life, My Dad Ray ruined my chance of having the whole money to me and he ruined my chance of freedom and to be with the woman i wanted to love her name is Clio she lives in Bristol like me I met her in Croatia 2022 until after i met her and before November 2022 which is between, ray wouldn't let me out of the house until someone have her before me. that's why ray ruined my moments just like Ashley down college ruin my opportunity of performing arts at Filton wise college for my acting career. that's why they do the same thing all over again to torment me. which is why I need to stay away from my family and to stay away from the past. ray failed me.
If I was RJ, I would've snapped on the whole family because they knew damn well what they were doing. They all tried Roscoe like dirt and they thought the adult Roscoe was supposed to just deal with it because they're his family. It's really funny how Clyde gave that half-assed apology after being called out. I wouldn't shake his hand. And after all that, Papa Jenkins still wouldn't admit that he was wrong until Mama Jenkins gave him a pep talk at the dinner.
