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Welcome to Mystara: Restarting the Timeline at 1005 

Mr. Welch
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Wraith of the Immortals broke the base of Mystara, and as chosen by you this is an alternate timeline of what happens if Wrath doesn't end in nations being destroyed. The world changes, but not as drastically. The Cold War remains. More tensions emerge as the Shadow Elves gain their own nation directly across from their Sylvan cousins. One nation falls to treachery and others are left shattered but salvageable. I'm breaking down the immediate future nation by nation this week.
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@Titan360
@Titan360 5 лет назад
There needs to be a pdf that's just a summary of this video. Here's what I got: Alfheim-Is not conquered, stands with Darokin, and makes truce with the New Angmar Shadow Elves Alphatia- Doomsday device never goes off, loses badly to Thyatis. Wizard Civil war due to heir conflict. Atrughin- Plateau is joined to Known World via Meteor Impact. Tiger tribe sides with Master, committed atrocities. Broken Lands- Losing massive amounts of ground to New Angmar and other enemies. Thar pillage-retreats to the north. City of Stars- Shadow Elves splinter. King Telemond plots against Alfheim and New Angmar desserters. Darokin- Frontline of the Western Front and is in ruin. Rebuilding, PCs can help and earn noble titles over new fiefs. Ethengar- In 1005, they save the day in battle against the Master. Conquers Wendar, fights epic battle vs. Denagoth. Five Shires- Devastated by war. Redesigning government due to wartime failures. Will return to isolationism soon. Glantri- Suffered major Undead Prince invasion. D'Amberville is missing. Allows some Clerics to enter to fight undead Ierendi- Joined Darokin out of guilt. Sank Master's fleet and ended blockades. Tourism down, harming Ierendi economy. Karameikos- Stephan is king now. von Hendrix is Count but weakened. One of the most powerful nations post-war. Minrothad- Didn't get involved. Sold arms, but in peacetime, everyone turns their back on them. Economy declining. New Angmar-Surface Shadow Elf kingdom. Queen is in awkward spot, paranoid of neighbors actually keeping treaties. Vestland- Joins the Western Alliance. Trying to form trading nation but still tough mercenaries. Solderfjord- Stayed neutral during war. In peacetime, King has to wrangle warring Jarls. Ostland- Sided with Thyatis, but was betrayed at war's end. King in Exile, Queen has to appease occuppying force. Rockhome- Decides to become a force for the trading nations. Builds undergound roads to dwarven trade outposts. Serraine- Joins the Western alliance, but has minimal involvment. Can become travel hub. Thyatis- Wins the war, narrowly. New Emperor throws weight around but lets Karameikos go. (for now) Ylarum- New, friendly, competent Sultan reaches out to the world and aids Darokin in patrolling untamed lands.
@larrylambert1220
@larrylambert1220 5 лет назад
I agree. 1002 things mr. welch can't do in an rpg game. Not make a pdf for this video.
@matthewmarek1467
@matthewmarek1467 2 года назад
What I wouldn't give to have a Welcome to Battletech: Restarting the Timeline at 3067 given this level of thought and detail. This was a masterpiece in respecting a setting while moving events forward. Bravo Mr. Welch, bravo.
@thomasadams5671
@thomasadams5671 5 лет назад
Your timeline is much better than the official one. I dare say more grounded in the reality of Mystara. It's like you took Earth's history and applied it with a good Mystara twist!
@Arnsteel634
@Arnsteel634 5 лет назад
I have said it before on your videos. I detest the destruction of alphatia and the shadow elves taking over alfheim. Love your videos.
@bobafettsbiggestfan9009
@bobafettsbiggestfan9009 4 года назад
You’ve inspired me to do a campaign set in the future of 1616 Mystara based on some historical events. The tectonic plates shifted where Mystara looks like a cross between a Mystaran map and the Earth map. Thanks
@johnbalk6091
@johnbalk6091 4 года назад
I must be one of the those guys that not only didn’t mind the whole events of Wrath of the Immortals, but I’m currently playing a campaign where all those events are canon. I liked how they Nuked the setting. But that’s because my players and I have been playing the AC timeline forever. So for us, it was a wild change up that really threw the players for a loop. Still liked your version. I’ll probably run yours for my next campaign.
@robkoper841
@robkoper841 Год назад
I like the idea of there being an "after the war" that doesn't involve the Immortals blowing holes in continuity. I will have to cherry pick this stuff a bit, because I use the 'Ramelin' version of Mystara in my current campaign, and because...well, the party screwed around off-world a bit and now it's already 1005AC.
@TheLordUrban
@TheLordUrban 2 года назад
If I ever did anything with this timeline I’d throw in some chaotic outsiders and or Nightmare Realm entities trying to worm their way into Mystara. All that bloodshed, pain and destruction would look like an all you can eat buffet for your average fiend or evil aligned deity. One that it might be worth trying to cross the barrier for.
@Titan360
@Titan360 5 лет назад
11:14 "a surface homeworld..." Somebody's been playing too much Stellaris.
@Mr_Welch
@Mr_Welch 5 лет назад
Frostpunk actually I'm a bit of a masochist
@larrylambert1220
@larrylambert1220 5 лет назад
You do the lord's work sir. When the book comes out, I will buy a copy.
@zdron07
@zdron07 2 года назад
Dwarf underroads reminds me of warhammer fantasy underway dawi
@SerpenThrope
@SerpenThrope 5 лет назад
Will you ever do a livestream game? I'd love to see how a campaign with your suggestions would go.
@Mr_Welch
@Mr_Welch 5 лет назад
That would require the work on my house to hurry and be finished so I'm not living with relatives. On a side note, when getting a house from the late 70's, check for aluminum wiring.
@MrRourk
@MrRourk 5 лет назад
I would love to play.
@MrRourk
@MrRourk 5 лет назад
Looking for a group? I want you to join my group on MeWe: mewe.com/join/looking_for_game
@MrRourk
@MrRourk 5 лет назад
If you do run. Try Astral Tabletop
@bobbymorris2979
@bobbymorris2979 3 года назад
I would love to see what books you could make about mystara if they just let you.
@ingridplata2411
@ingridplata2411 5 лет назад
Oh, man, I hadn't realised that War on All Sides was a creation of yours. Everything comes together now :D In the pdf you have Empress Eriadna herself intervene in favour of the Darokinians, but what would you say if instead the Princess Ark arrived?
@Mr_Welch
@Mr_Welch 5 лет назад
As long as they play the Big Damn Heroes doesn't matter who shows up to save Darokin
@Titan360
@Titan360 5 лет назад
I kind of think the arcade games, which are set in Darokin and Glantri, got almost everything wrong about those nations, (should've been set in Karameikos or Minrothad or even Alphatia where the genericness is less obvious.) Also, shadow elves are skimpily-clad teleport-spamming purple drow. But, they are some pretty nice Side-scrolling Beat'em ups. The endings are dramatic as all hell and make you feel like you saved the world.
@creggriley7247
@creggriley7247 5 лет назад
what Rifts book is Mystara? I can't seem to find it in my collection...haha great vid Welch
@Mr_Welch
@Mr_Welch 5 лет назад
You have to give Palladium time. I think the new classes are going to be Mongol Scout, Viking cleric, German Wizard and 800 story tall iron golem
@creggriley7247
@creggriley7247 5 лет назад
@@Mr_Welch iron golem who also has thermo nuclear mini missiles
@creggriley7247
@creggriley7247 5 лет назад
@@Mr_Welch I want to do a deus ex kind of thing...cyber augs, crazy and not so crazy government conspiracies...and just dystopian cyber punk stuff...so since you know all i really know is rifts, i've played 3.5 a few times, and call of cthulhu and the mass effect game a few times...in terms of custom settings and such...what is your recommendation for systems for it?
@Mr_Welch
@Mr_Welch 5 лет назад
@@creggriley7247 i don't think rifts has a comparison. Nothing comes close to how over the top that setting is. Torg does the mix and match but nothing that insane.
@johnbalk6091
@johnbalk6091 3 года назад
One other thing, if you have a minute. You mentioned that there was a longer written version on the Vaults of Pandius that went into greater detail. Any chance you could send me a link? Thanks again, as always you do great work. So stay safe and keep your powder dry!
@Mr_Welch
@Mr_Welch 3 года назад
www.pandius.com/War_on_All_Sides.pdf though I think I was changing the meteor to a near hit on Atruaghin and going with the revised Atruaghin gazetteer to have the Horse and Turtle bear the brunt of the fighting and providing the magical assistance.
@johnbalk6091
@johnbalk6091 3 года назад
Mr. Welch Thanks again! Greatly appreciate it!
@pelmen1294
@pelmen1294 5 лет назад
Are you actually putting your players handbook to hardcopy? I hope so. check out goodman games.
@Mr_Welch
@Mr_Welch 5 лет назад
I've talked with them. Legally I can only publish on the guild but if thr book sells well enough and is formatted correct it can be made into a hardcopy. I've already made sure its formatting for printing.
@paulvalentine4157
@paulvalentine4157 2 года назад
just commenting to get algo up
@johnbalk6091
@johnbalk6091 3 года назад
Hey Glen, just finished watching this video again and I have a couple of questions. First, how do the Shadow elves terraform the Broken Lands? I remember reading that the reason it's such a hellhole was because of a Blackmoor artifact blew up and it was basically a mix of 3 mile island and Chernobyl. Second, wouldn't it be transformed into a giant fungal forest instead of weird purple-blue trees? How would they know what trees were seeing that the vast majority have lived underground for hundreds of years? I'm intrigued by this scenario and I'll probably use it for my next campaign, once I'm finished with my current one. So, any help would be great. Thanks again, and stay out of the rain!
@Mr_Welch
@Mr_Welch 3 года назад
Combination of shadow elf radiance magic, elven tree of life magic and atruaghin world shaping magic.
@johnbalk6091
@johnbalk6091 3 года назад
Mr. Welch I can see the use of the Radiance, seeing as it’s based on Raphael being a Blackmoor nuclear physicist and all, but how did they get the Attrughan world shaping Magic’s?
@Mr_Welch
@Mr_Welch 3 года назад
@@johnbalk6091 It's an older version but the Atruaghin are devastated by the meteor and the nuclear winter and seek out allies against the hordes that now gain access to the plateau. Was thinking of revising it so either the Horse reach the lowland or the Turtle are the ones needing assistance, either way they provide the magics of their people that help terraform the Broken Lands at an accelerated rate. Alfheim provides the magic to create a new Tree of Life to buy off the Shadow Elves and get some peace. Atruaghin use their magic to transform the Broken Lands into a more fertile environment. Shadow Elf radiance provides the fuel for the transformation.
@johnbalk6091
@johnbalk6091 3 года назад
Mr. Welch so then in your version the meteor doesn’t crash along the border of Darokin and Glantri? And instead on the side of the plateau? I’d really like to read that long version you put up on the Vaults.
@Mr_Welch
@Mr_Welch 3 года назад
@@johnbalk6091 I do need to revise the 1005 timeline to reflect the changes made by the revised Atruaghin book. The meteor is a near Miss. Instead two of the four Clans join the war on the side of the allies, the horse Clan finally gets off the plateau and is looking for a fight. The turtle Clan is caught up in the war from the start
@MrRourk
@MrRourk 5 лет назад
Sounds like a lot is happening underground? Time to bust out Veins of the Earth!
@kyleknight7680
@kyleknight7680 5 лет назад
You do of course realize that Porphyriel is the Radiant Shaman, NOT the Radiant Princess. The Radiant Princess, Tanadaleyo, is Telemon's daughter not Porphyriel.
@Mr_Welch
@Mr_Welch 5 лет назад
She lied to me.
@ericsaxon5736
@ericsaxon5736 5 лет назад
I'm looking at the map and I'm wondering why Wendar, why isn't Ethengar going after the Heldann Freeholds? The Mongols rolled over the Teutonic Knights, why would Ethengar go through a mountain pass, when there is literally NOTHING stopping them from overrunning the Hattian controlled Heldann.
@Mr_Welch
@Mr_Welch 5 лет назад
In Canon that's what they attempt to do. Except there's a plague which decimates their numbers and causes them to lose badly. Every invasion they attempt always ends in defeat which is something I wanted to reverse
@ericsaxon5736
@ericsaxon5736 5 лет назад
@@Mr_Welch A plague would happen, whether they went North or North East or North West, isn't that correct? If a plague annihilated the Mongols in the 11th century, Genghis Khan would have still come into Western Asia and then Eastern Europe, or whichever tribe displaced them, would have. A plague, would not somehow change the Mongols' natural direction of expansion. What was Genghis Khan's Mongolia in the 11th century, was the Turkish homeland 700 years earlier, and the Hun homeland 300 years before that, and they expanded in the same direction as the Mongols eventually did. I would postulate that geography determines the natural expansion patterns of migratory nomads, rather than a plague, which is simply an uncontrollable event. Now Ethengar goes south right into a defenseless Darokin, I can see that. Or open plains for the Ethengarian herds west of Darokin and the opportunity to expand further west INTO Hule and the open plains and deserts, I can totally dig that. But to go through the mountains, into forests, where their mobility advantage would be null and void, I'm just not sure. The Mongols avoided the Russian forests like the plague, for a reason. And I believe that reason would hold true, in this instance, as well. (Changed to west from east, I have no idea why I wrote east, twice.)
@erickcwarden
@erickcwarden 5 лет назад
Could you help me out with the different languages (ancient and modern) from all of the nations.
@Mr_Welch
@Mr_Welch 5 лет назад
I'd have to do quite a bit of research, that's a rather tangled subject. There are no fewer than three articles on the Vaults of Pandius about it.
@erickcwarden
@erickcwarden 5 лет назад
At the very least, if you run out of ideas for future videos, just throwing it out there.
@MrRourk
@MrRourk 5 лет назад
Von Hendricks survives but what about his Wizard Buddy Pal?
@Mr_Welch
@Mr_Welch 5 лет назад
That's kind of Bargles's entire schtick
@MrRourk
@MrRourk 5 лет назад
4e Bargle. web.archive.org/web/20130710150259/www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4alum/20081017a We need a 5e
@ericsaxon5736
@ericsaxon5736 5 лет назад
I do have another item that I found strange in your alternate timeline but I wanted to give you a few days to chew over the Ethengar question first. Specifically, the invasion and occupation of Ostland by Thyatis. Here is why... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PRr44d-3gsg.html feel free to check it out and let me know if you understand why I would find Eusebius' invasion of Ostland to be potentially self-defeating for the Imperial family.
@MichaelHaneline
@MichaelHaneline 4 года назад
so how does the doomsday device get stopped? I just read WotI and no matter what the players do (destroy, modify, or do nothing to the device) it makes no difference and Alphatia gets destroyed and magic is gone for a week... What do you suggest a time travelling party does to stop Rad from being a dumbass, since it doesnt seem like he's willing to listen to reason?
@Mr_Welch
@Mr_Welch 4 года назад
It never gets activated in the first place. Alphatia shows its weakness in war with the lack of cohesion and over reliance on wizards. They spend their efforts going after Thyatis, not Glantri to settle old grudges. Zandar gets most of their army killed and Alphatia can't get wizards interested in the war because it doesn't affect them directly.
@MichaelHaneline
@MichaelHaneline 4 года назад
Mr. Welch hmm, I suppose, but then the NoS is still draining magic from Mystara, and Ixion and Rad still probably are willing to go to extreme lengths to destroy it / prevent it from being destroyed...
@jasonitaliano8631
@jasonitaliano8631 4 года назад
I would not have given the shadow elves a forest.
@jasonitaliano8631
@jasonitaliano8631 4 года назад
In fact I'd have the week without magic cause the forest of Alfheim to sicken and for the weather to be even more screwy until the eleven wizards fix it. Turns out the Ylari may have been on to something with the 'stealing the rains' theory. One big storm on the surrounding mountains and centuries-forgotten rivers flood what used to be a delta in the Emirates.
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