Ethan has issues with Misogyny. Ethan needs to accept this and learn how to deal effectively with women. He is destined to repeat the same patterns if he does not.
Moriah is a cry baby that sets herself up for failure. Shes very manipulative like Kim. Kim has literally rubbed off on some of her kids and it shows. Shes fake, controlling, and nasty. Also extremely dramatic like Moriah. Watch allll the seasons. Shes mentally abused everyone including Barry so how can we not believe that she traumatized Olivia. Ive lived a toxic relationship like hers and ethans and when you have a family that tries to isolate you from your family and everyone else and then also throw in the fundamental shit like you MUST operate as an old testament wife it is damaging. You completely lose your identity and as much as you love someone its never enough. Also Olivia is still very young and tbh the ONLY ONE growing in the whole group of people on this show i guess besides Barry he seems weird but he also seems like a stand up guy that wants whats best for his kids. Kim sucks Moriah is a self induced victim Micah is a big headed egotistical child Ethan is also a controlling victim cry baby for not standing on business and pointing fingers instead of keeping same energy. Lydia is a mixed bag but also working with the hand she was dealt. Barry is cool. Rest of the kids are cool. Olivia is trying to out grow all the bs. They all need therapy. Rant over.❤
The problem seems to be that his parents just let him get away with everything and whenever it was time to solve conflicts, he'd run off and go on a trip with his cars.
They are all messed up , especially in their relationships! Ethan seriously asking Crazy Olivia if they can just make it work??? What ??!!! Omg - just separate and move on!!! Nothing will ever change with these guys !!
@herehi-q7p "He communicated just fine.": He doesn't. Last time he drove home and didn't interact with Olivia for 16 days. It's not ok to ignore your wife (or husband ofc) for that long without even notifying them that you are still alive.
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I love that Iisac put Micah in his place about how great he was. Pretty only takes you so far. Barry's creepy grin is total bs. Ethan needs to tell them that he was the one to tell Olivia it was over. Moriah needs to post a retraction of her lies on social media. Period. Hypocrisy runs in the family.
Poor Moriah. It might be helpful to go to counseling, find out who she really is, wants to be, and how to get there;, what is important to her in a relationship, is she jumping into relationships too quickly before getting a good feel for the potential partner's character, identifying past trauma and how to heal.
Ethan is the biggest jerk I've ever seen. He won't treat her right he won't accept some of her beliefs he doesn't want to have kids with her so she wants to move on and get a divorce and then all the sudden he got to change a heart? I hope to go through with it and move on and find someone who loves her 100%
Olivia has stated multiple times that she did want kids with Ethan when they were still together. Ethan said he doesn't want kids with her unless she submits to him unconditionally, because those are his believes. They are incompatible as people and it's best for both of them to find different parners.
I can’t stand Olivia , for one reason only. She never owns up to her part in anything. She always turns it around and puts the blame or the reasons on someone else. When all along from day one she wanted to go on the wild side, her husband wasn’t exciting enough for her. She was young when she was married she wants to experience life, and along with that more boyfriends. But she wants to stay connected with the TV program for the security. I say kick her off.
She apologized to Ethan for not accepting that she couldn't be with him if he was around his family? That's 'owning up' I thought. We don't know how toxic being around them was; and Ethan being around them probably made her feel paranoid and like he was being turned against her. Not ideal, but we don't know her situation. They just weren't going to work out. They weren't right for each other, and that's that. Neither of them are bad. Just incompatible. Like his entire family vocally didn't like Olivia; I understand why she'd feel the way she does.
@heatherbukowski2102 I agree with you this all cannot be blamed on Olivia !!! Ethan played a very big part in why their marriage was so dysfunctional.
@@Janet-Martin I find his dead-eyed unhappy stare kinda scary tbh. Hate everytime he shuts down and just stares at her like a dead fish. He looks like he wants to hurt her or something.
Normally I'd agree, but they are being paid to be on TV so they have to give viewers something in return. Otherwise their profits will dry up and go away with the viewers, so they would lose their job.
@teamcougars what are you talking about?! All their children are all doing what they love they are confident and secure in themselves so much so that they all branched out they gave them a strong foundation the decisions they made because they wanted to rebel was their choice they warned Ethan not to marry Olivia they warned Moira and Micah of their live style and still loved them and supported them through their rebellious years as they sought independence
"They warned Ethan not to marry Olivia": Wrong. Kim even played matchmaker. "They warned Moira and Micah of their lifestyle": Also wrong. Both of them were thrown out by Kim and Barry so they were essentially forced into a different life style by their own parents. Also, it's *Moriah, not "Moira". It's pretty clear that you have zero clue what's going on, especially since you can't even spell their names properly.
So much ‘vulnerable narcissism’ when kids are raised in this type of environment 😩😬 speaking as one who’s trying to recover herself from this upbringing.
Ethan mom?well she prob been preparing to leave for yrs she got what she wanted like the dance studio,and tucked back plenty of money then obliterated the family Plus I luv morals song she sang on the beach but I wish she wouldn't talk so timidly I have a hard time listening to her. 🤗😇 I hope Ethan and moriaha take their lives back without the idiots getting any more free rides from being part of that family show that will be even better WITHOUT the Non plathville ex's
Moriah feels like she needs to take care of her dad and Barry is going to take advantage of her and Lidia as long as he’s able to those poor girls he should be ashamed of himself 😢
Micha 🤢 I believe has a very bad attitude about thinking he's God's gift to women and he's wierd, Ethan needs to make decisions for himself and not be so wishy washy because he didn't treat Olivia very well many times on the show and I know Olivia is not perfect but look at how many times he made major life plans without even talking to Olivia about it and then we have Moriah who deep down wants a man and I mean any man, she's all tatted up and say's she continue until her entire body is covered, she VERY immature and I can't believe she moved home with dad but I hope Lydia doesn't have to take care of Moriah like she did before. Barry really stepped up as a father and I think he is finally realizing that listening to everything Kim demanded of him and the children was Kim punishing her kid's for her own horrible mistakes she made growing up and once Kim couldn't keep up with her lies anymore she left Barry and I definitely think she was seeing somebody before she left him and all of her children. Kim is a horrible mother and person !! I think each and every one of those kids need to be put in major counseling and not through the church, they need a professional counselor that can help them all realize what their upbringing did to them and explain that what their mother did to all of them their entire childhood was wrong. Barry also needs to seek professional help through a counselor or therapy because Kim sure had him fooled also !!!
I thought K made some very nasty, unfair comments about Olivia but to each her own. Kim is still making digs at Olivia. She's just ticked off ever since Olivia caught her using Ethan's credit card. She needs to take accountability for her own actions. She is such a phony.
Olivia wants her way or nothing. She secluded Ethan away from his family and then demamded he change more, and more, and more. Now she's leaving- after, only AFTER she's gotten what she wanted out of him and exercised as much control as she possibly could over him. Not saying he didn't make mistakes, too. I have no doubt niether of them were perfect, but she could never get enough control and power. It seemed she couldn't decide if she wanted to have totally control, or for Ethan to step up and lead. But she was never happy, no matter how much he gave up.
Then it’s good she is leaving. Ethan needs to let go. Personally if you ask me, Ethan likes to be dominated and to have drama, he is equally responsible for 5he failure of that marriage.
Barry is so creepy and moriah has always wanted to get his approval. She plays victim and lets Barry play hero but she should be standing on her own two feet and growing up, enjoying life.
Olivia should have made compromise with the family situation not " maybe I should've left earlier. She is a jerk, and Ethan will move on to find a partner with the same core values that he has.
What Olivia did to Ethan was manipulative and evil. You can’t force your partner to choose between their spouse and their family. Those are traits of a narcissist. I met a guy a few years ago whom I like a lot. He wasn’t handsome but his funny personality made me laugh. We never became officially an item, but I wanted to get to know him before we took the next step. After 9 months of investing time and energy with him I slowly regained my common sense and realized this guy was toxic and a narcissist. He was controlling, abusive both verbally and physically, he would grab my phone and violate my privacy. Even if I had nothing to hide because my phone never had a security lock he kept grabbing my phone and one time he threatened me he was going to call all my male friends and questioned them. He wrote down their numbers and began to harass them. He even told me that everything I did for him for the past 9 months was pointless and he made me choose between him and my family. He said the only way for me to truly proved him that I loved him was by me packing my bags and living with him. I refused and cursed him out. I came to my senses that someone who loves you doesn’t make you choose between them and your family. Olivia put Ethan in that situation and that’s not love, that’s manipulation. Olivia needs to find a guy whom she can control 24/7. Shame on Olivia.
I feel bad for Ethan,Olivia needed to be validated that she was God's gift to him AND his younger siblings,I mean she wants whoever she's with that she should be all they need. No friends no family,I mean look how she said she wanted to say goodbye to the younger siblings and his parents couldn't watch AT THEIR OWN HOME!!!!! She wanted to play their BETTER mommy cause she didn't agree how they raised THEIR KIDS!!no one asked her to to show them all how their parents weren't good parents so she needed to FIX THEIR MISTAKES!! She is a narcissist it's all her or nothing.She shouldn't be on the show now that she wants to get out of the family name.She used them as stairs to boost her way to fame.kick her off she prob thinks the show wil be canceled without her!! Ethen,..Ethan,... PLEASE DONT BEG her to stay that's what she wants the world to see how she is the best thing he will ever get that's why he tearfully begged her to come back!!! It will double her ego!!!
I have no use for Kim. Feel bad for Barry I think Kim just wanted some strange and is totally delusional thinking she can be a ballerina. Sweetie you are never going to be a dancer.
Another Olivia !!! What’s with Micah taking his shirt off to do the interview on tv?? Seriously?? Dude.. we get it , you work out …. Don’t care!!! Have some self respect and humility- please ! His personality has changed for the worse unfortunately!!
Mariaha, God puts people in you life to love and learn lessons from. Sometines bad relationships prepare you to see the amazing value of a great love. If you dont change your heart you will be more open to attracting the same man over and over. The key to winning this love is a happy heart that moves on and gets rid of the toxic energy so you qre thriving. A man can snell that a mike awat. You true love is preparing for you too. Look forward to the best days of your life that are coming!❤❤❤
Olivia needs to go to counseling on her own and together with Ethan they both do there is something missing we never saw because their whole marriage never made sense and never seemed happy to me
She's a typical Jezebel When a man is head over heels doing unusual things BUT can't explain WHY he's so infatuated with the woman...👀 That's called BEWITCHED
