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WARNING: Do not play track 1 of this game CD on ANY Audio CD Player. Now THAT, sounds like a challenge. #ChallengeAccepted
In this video I'll be using a number of 90s CD Players and Boomboxes to see exactly why there's such a pronounced warning on this Zool 2 CD about playing on a standard stereo system. What will this horrific audio be? I'll also explain the reasons why it's how it turns out to be. So let's delve into playing a CD-ROM on an audio CD Player.
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@Nostalgianerd
@Nostalgianerd 5 лет назад
Someone on Patreon has just pointed out to me that this was also mentioned at the end of an Angry Video Game Nerd episode. I honestly had no idea! My apologies for the cross over. *edit* I revoke my apologies because I've just watched the video in question and he calls the CD32 a piece of sh*t *awaits torrents of abusive comments from fans of significantly larger RU-vidr*
@Elenrai
@Elenrai 5 лет назад
*gives you shit for making me realize I am getting old by the medium of rickrolling*
@Xilefian
@Xilefian 5 лет назад
I watched a handful of AVGN videos, he tends to not actually discuss the content topic but proceeds to spew profanity at any detail he can isolate and focus down on. I've noticed that his "game reviews" tend to never focus on gameplay or analysis of planning or storytelling techniques and almost exclusively criticise readability and graphics with lots of poop-related profanity. His actual opinions are likely only 2% the reason why people watch his videos, I would guess most people watch them for his rants, quirky skits and exposing obscure game titles.
@priestfan81
@priestfan81 5 лет назад
Hahaha. I am a fan of you and AVGN, but I tend to not take him very seriously. No torrents here... of abuse anyway.
@Xilefian
@Xilefian 5 лет назад
@@voltare2amstereoI'd be happy with this but looking at the comments on the videos it seems that the majority of AVGN's audience doesn't get this and absorbs the opinions expressed on AVGN as good criticism. I've been told a number of times over the years it's satirical take on game reviews, and the content as a whole feels tired so it clearly appears to me as a satire that's dragged on too long, but I really don't think the majority of its audience even thinks this.
@zzco
@zzco 5 лет назад
@@Xilefian AVGN is a caricature, you know and shouldn't take anything he says at face value. He is a stereotypical keyboard warrior. That's the POINT of the character, lol. Just watch him to laugh at the basement dwellers who actually get butt-hurt over this stuff. :p
@Auron3991
@Auron3991 5 лет назад
For a second there, I thought some company had been Rickrolling a decade before it was popular.
@Cheepshooter14
@Cheepshooter14 5 лет назад
That's on the time machine to do list.
@Battlefox64_RL
@Battlefox64_RL 5 лет назад
Man I was really hoping this was happening.... =_=×
@cassandraort6614
@cassandraort6614 5 лет назад
@@Cheepshooter14 somebody has just got to do it! They'd be like Rickrolling us people in the future
@cassandraort6614
@cassandraort6614 5 лет назад
Same
@billybbob18
@billybbob18 5 лет назад
Those old CDs would be worth millions for their historic value.
@thief594
@thief594 5 лет назад
My guard was ALL THE WAY DOWN. HOW DARE YOU SIR
@dank_crusad3r
@dank_crusad3r 5 лет назад
Thief it was executed perfectly lol
@electronicwoe
@electronicwoe 5 лет назад
I feel violated
@SalahEddineH
@SalahEddineH 5 лет назад
I rolled my eyes so hard my head hurt. I really was not expecting that..
@marcellarenee2093
@marcellarenee2093 5 лет назад
I know how do you even prepare yourself for that in 2019?
@mikuenjoyerXD
@mikuenjoyerXD 4 года назад
@Stupid Cat curses!
@GeneralNickles
@GeneralNickles 4 года назад
Your parents house is the most "my parents house" looking house I have ever seen.
@SomeUsernameSomeoneElseTookIt
@SomeUsernameSomeoneElseTookIt 3 года назад
What a rare insult!
@sinenomine8101
@sinenomine8101 3 года назад
@@SomeUsernameSomeoneElseTookIt insult or compliment?
@Helperbot-2000
@Helperbot-2000 3 года назад
@u r true
@glen1555
@glen1555 3 года назад
My mum had a similar Solitare game, except it was wooden pegs not marbles
@stefanoalves8862
@stefanoalves8862 3 года назад
@@sinenomine8101 probably both
@LQC2556
@LQC2556 3 года назад
The fact that he used an actual copy of Never Gonna Give You Up on CD for the rickroll was very impressive.
@josiahferrell5022
@josiahferrell5022 3 года назад
Even if he didn't, that was the best rickroll I have personally experienced. Truly brilliant
@TylerMarkRichardson
@TylerMarkRichardson 3 года назад
Now I know to have the volume button ready
@BDM276
@BDM276 2 года назад
I found the album on vinyl in a flea market. Best €0.50 I've ever spent. Never gonna give you up is the first track. Just put it in another sleeve and wait.
@coreforce9872
@coreforce9872 2 года назад
You saved me from a rickroll, my man.
@polakball142
@polakball142 Год назад
He has forgotten which cd it was.
@passthebutterrobot2600
@passthebutterrobot2600 4 года назад
When you played Track 1 I thought you were going to hear a message say "OY! WE TOLD YOU NOT TO DO THAT!!"
@freshstat1csnow
@freshstat1csnow 4 года назад
Sega CD games have some weird scary message that plays when you put them into a CD player lmao
@sicariusflamus3033
@sicariusflamus3033 4 года назад
Alicia Pearcy "REMOVE THIS DISC FROM THE CD PLAYER IMMEDIATELY"
@sicariusflamus3033
@sicariusflamus3033 4 года назад
Alicia Pearcy the background terrifying hellsounds is the laser reading the grooves snd stuff that would store the information for the game and it just sounds bad
@filindoyt6594
@filindoyt6594 4 года назад
Oi josuke! Remove that disc!
@TheTurnipKing
@TheTurnipKing 3 года назад
Some PC Engine CD games do basically that.
@LukeeGD
@LukeeGD 5 лет назад
Getting rickrolled in 2019... I can't believe this
@jesterssketchbook
@jesterssketchbook 5 лет назад
i cant believe youve done this!
@Defensive_Wounds
@Defensive_Wounds 5 лет назад
It's coming back into fashion!
@daoneTM
@daoneTM 5 лет назад
Yeah, feels nostalgic nowadays. Fitting to the channel tho.
@Notarget1337
@Notarget1337 5 лет назад
Hopefully not gnomed.
@anthonyconville43
@anthonyconville43 5 лет назад
Didn't even see it coming 😃
@PKSuperStar256
@PKSuperStar256 3 года назад
It's like importing something that's not an audio file into Audacity.
@c.i.n.b4710
@c.i.n.b4710 3 года назад
PK SuperStar256 it just screams at you
@anerythm2794
@anerythm2794 3 года назад
@@c.i.n.b4710 had a good laugh, thanks
@olileoli2788
@olileoli2788 3 года назад
Well that is exactly what it does
@PKSuperStar256
@PKSuperStar256 3 года назад
@@olileoli2788, knew it!
@PKSuperStar256
@PKSuperStar256 3 года назад
@@c.i.n.b4710, basically. (Not trying to argue otherwise because it's a joke.)
@ISAK.M
@ISAK.M 3 года назад
Imagine if they had actually put Rick Astley on there, that would have been legendary
@soraltt
@soraltt 3 года назад
and copyright infringement lol
@n.d1282
@n.d1282 3 года назад
Actually. Theres sometimes trolls cds i have seen then. Most of them have MRS 64 and some rickrolls
@screane5739
@screane5739 3 года назад
No.
@dyll_4049
@dyll_4049 3 года назад
I don’t even think it was a meme
@3oct1111
@3oct1111 3 года назад
Duck roll wasn't a thing then, let alone rickroll
@kirkkohnen5050
@kirkkohnen5050 5 лет назад
The warning is reasonable. Essentially random data will manifest itself as white noise. This noise has an equal amount of power per Hz of bandwidth. The woofer in a speaker has a few hundred Hz of bandwidth. The midrange has a few kHz of bandwidth. The tweeter covers about 15 kHz of bandwidth. That means that this noise disproportionately drives almost all the energy into the tweeter. Most normal music puts most of the energy into the woofer and the least into the tweeter. So, playing this track at medium to loud volume can indeed destroy the tweeter and or the crossover network in the speaker.
@simonoleary9264
@simonoleary9264 5 лет назад
This is also the reason why they put low-pass filters on the output of CD players. The raw output from the DAC will contain frequencies that probably go into the Mhz (see Fourier Analysis of waveforms), and these will fry your speakers (and your amp probably won't like it much either).
@Yeen125
@Yeen125 5 лет назад
Simon O'Leary Then again, many cheap CD players (especially ones you would find in an integrated stereo or boom box from a discount retailer like Walmart) don’t have a good low-pass filter (if it even has one at all). So they still had to put that warning label on the CD-ROM.
@mikeymcmikeface5599
@mikeymcmikeface5599 5 лет назад
Although it's not random data.
@kirkkohnen5050
@kirkkohnen5050 5 лет назад
@@mikeymcmikeface5599 Computer code, in binary and interpreted as 16 bit signed values, will look awfully like white noise. White noise has the same amount of energy per Hz of bandwidth. That overloads the tweeter, since it covers over 10 kHz of bandwidth. Regular sound or music has a much higher percentage of energy in the woofer and midrange bands. This is the reason for the warning.
@slapmyfunkybass
@slapmyfunkybass 5 лет назад
Oh behave.
@adamdiaz84
@adamdiaz84 5 лет назад
Hmm, this might blow my speakers out... Better try this in mom's CD player.
@MrDustpile
@MrDustpile 4 года назад
Still, putting floppy disk data on a whole CD ensured preservation for we retro people. Though the 90s was pretty much only last week for me anyway.
@loganbrown8653
@loganbrown8653 4 года назад
lol
@deanagoes2791
@deanagoes2791 4 года назад
He is actually a bad boy 😀
@dadutchboy2
@dadutchboy2 4 года назад
and then keep it like that for a solid minute while im recording nothing
@johnclydeceniaberdigay3825
@johnclydeceniaberdigay3825 3 года назад
Why you do that?
@AAAlpherior
@AAAlpherior 3 года назад
"Hoo hoooo, that was an easy mistake to make. Let's try that again." >Rick Astley plays *again*
@myriahg6549
@myriahg6549 3 года назад
That’s what I was thinking 😂
@duncandownham4726
@duncandownham4726 3 года назад
"Told ya it's an easy mistake to make"
@alexruedi1995
@alexruedi1995 2 года назад
2021: disable cache or restart your cd player
@WaterShowsProd
@WaterShowsProd 3 года назад
I remember my neighbour putting a 5 1/2" floppy disk out of its sleeve and playing it on a record player to see what it sounded like. As I'm sure you can imagine, it sounded like a needle being dragged.
@memeboy8207
@memeboy8207 Год назад
Ouch
@RennieAsh
@RennieAsh Год назад
Should cut a hole in the centre and play the floppy disc in a cd player
@WaterShowsProd
@WaterShowsProd Год назад
@@RennieAsh He probably would have, except that CD players didn't exist at that time. Also 5 1/2" floppy disks already had a hole in the centre. Being a magnetic medium a CD player wouldn't find anything to read and would just spit it out.
@zenkim6709
@zenkim6709 Год назад
The mental image of this incident is giving me strong "Austin Powers: Man Of Mystery" vibes....
@corvetteguy91
@corvetteguy91 5 лет назад
First class trolling. I thought you had discovered the original Rick Roll.
@ksiferr3t554
@ksiferr3t554 4 года назад
I haven't told my gf but the moment is he tells me she's pregnant I'm so gonna make fake baby Einstein CDs and Rick roll our baby in utero
@inactivechannel2965
@inactivechannel2965 4 года назад
@@ksiferr3t554 you are a fucking genius.
@JoseQuintanaMex
@JoseQuintanaMex 3 года назад
I thought he made some time travel discovery!
@fullofgwen
@fullofgwen 3 года назад
Never gonna give you up XD
@SlyHikari03
@SlyHikari03 3 года назад
KSI FERR3T starting off young!
@IsaacNielsenisaacsgames
@IsaacNielsenisaacsgames 5 лет назад
Oh my, it's been 10 years... TEN FLIPPIN YEARS!! and I'm still being rickrolled
@kuppih4933
@kuppih4933 5 лет назад
At least not gnomed
@hit42man53
@hit42man53 5 лет назад
Ahaha you and family look Rick Astley family .. cheers sir. That should be your family reunions anthem. Family family family, who cares?! We're all family. Im very distant thou :p
@PlumbCarton5607
@PlumbCarton5607 5 лет назад
I thought it was a recent thing
@IsaacNielsenisaacsgames
@IsaacNielsenisaacsgames 5 лет назад
@@PlumbCarton5607 Nooooooooooo, its like wayyyy old
@golffleur8355
@golffleur8355 5 лет назад
@@PlumbCarton5607 bruh
@RupertReynolds1962
@RupertReynolds1962 3 года назад
I learned about data tracks the hard way:- I put an OS/2 installation CD into my Yamaha CD-X1 "Natural Sound" player. Remember that back then a lot of CDs were AAD and recorded at a lower level, to match other inputs. So I had the volume up higher, and when itbstarted playing I flinched (I never flinch!) so badly I back-handed my coffee mug across the room, leaving a big bruise on my hand. I also stood up suddenly (a bad move in an old place with low ceilings) and my head hit the ceiling beam. I saw stars for about 5 minutes :-) Apart from that, no problem!
@Nakia11798
@Nakia11798 3 года назад
Oof. Sounds like a painful experience, in multiple ways.
@arposkraft3616
@arposkraft3616 3 года назад
can say about rick what you want but he is never: - gonna give you up - gonna let you down - gonna run around and desert you - gonna make you cry - gonna say goodbye - gonna tell a lie and hurt you
@klizzard5166
@klizzard5166 3 года назад
the world governments could learn from this
@jasonswiatkowski9127
@jasonswiatkowski9127 2 года назад
And the people those governments represent. Imagine a world where we worshipped Rick as a god and these were his commandments.
@andrewbatts7678
@andrewbatts7678 5 лет назад
I remember the stereos with a remote back in 1992 that when you used the remote to turn up the volume, to my delight.... THE FRIGGEN VOLUME KNOB TURNED TOO!!!!! I could not believe my eyes🤯 neither could my dad!
@ZMugg1
@ZMugg1 5 лет назад
My Pioneer SX 303 R from 1997 does the same thing. The remote for the tuner/amp also worked the matching dual deck cassette player. I still use it.
@rommiemex9532
@rommiemex9532 5 лет назад
A number of modern amps have the same....
@TheBashar327
@TheBashar327 4 года назад
@@justvaper You could tell the quality of speakers by if the covers came off or not. If the cover was permanently fixed, it was most likely a really cheap speaker.
@comicsansgreenkirby
@comicsansgreenkirby 4 года назад
w h a t
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 4 года назад
My Sony STR-DE215 from 97 also does it
@jacobhayes9992
@jacobhayes9992 5 лет назад
2019 and we are still being Rickrolled, this has to be inw of the longest running meme's ever.
@dant876
@dant876 5 лет назад
being rickrolled was being evolved into being gnomed
@TWX1138
@TWX1138 5 лет назад
Kilroy was here and would like to have a word with you.
@trubbish9353
@trubbish9353 5 лет назад
Wait so im about to be rick rolled OH NO THANKS FOR WARNING ME
@jacobhayes9992
@jacobhayes9992 5 лет назад
@@trubbish9353 Just doing my duty citizen.
@juicekegs
@juicekegs 5 лет назад
Watch the end past all the credits in the new rekt Ralph movie
@SollowP
@SollowP 2 года назад
Some devs actually put warnings in the actual disk itself as a warning. Most known of this is the Castlevania: Symphony of the Night disk. Where if you put it in a CD player, Alucard just goes "This is a Playstation black disk, it has computer data. Cut Number 1 has cimputer data, so please don't play it. But you probably won't listen to me anyway." then a hidden bonus track starts playing before the data noise starts.
@muskodine
@muskodine 2 года назад
I just explained the Rickroll meme last night to my son. Then tonight I saw this. We both got a good hearty laugh out of it. Well done.
@herbderbler1585
@herbderbler1585 5 лет назад
4:48 the speaker looks thoroughly confused about the sounds coming out of itself. |◎)̲ ̲(⊙|
@GHOZTSHXRKZ
@GHOZTSHXRKZ 5 лет назад
r/pareidolia
@herbderbler1585
@herbderbler1585 5 лет назад
Thanks, I learned a new word today.
@AlisonBryen
@AlisonBryen 5 лет назад
It looks terrified!!!!!
@Amit-sp4qm
@Amit-sp4qm 5 лет назад
That ASCII art is real cool
@ellenborovfd1934
@ellenborovfd1934 3 года назад
Never will forget when I learned you could play soundtracks from many original Playstation games on your CD player... Surprised I didnt burn up my Twisted Metal discs just listening to the music
@milesdavis2353
@milesdavis2353 2 года назад
Yes! I absolutely loved that feature!
@AaronOfMpls
@AaronOfMpls 2 года назад
My did the same with his _Test Drive: Off-Road_ disc for PC, listening to the Gravity Kills songs from its soundtrack.
@redstonulo
@redstonulo 3 года назад
you know it's quality content when you get rickrolled by an actual CD.
@Fr4ncM
@Fr4ncM 5 лет назад
Since it said "not to play" those, that's exactly what my friends and I did. We used to called them "the sounds of hell".
@TheBrazilRules
@TheBrazilRules 5 лет назад
I always thought the warning was to avoid damaging the audio device
@overdoseiinstereo
@overdoseiinstereo 5 лет назад
It is. Most Sega cds will annihilate the poor speakers
@omniferousswan593
@omniferousswan593 3 года назад
As pointed out in the video... That is what the warning is for.
@mresturk9336
@mresturk9336 3 года назад
Yeah, companies covering their backsides from lawsuits. Just in case any of the contained video game data did happen to translate to a frequency that would tear up music CD players.
@RanoutofideazXD
@RanoutofideazXD 2 года назад
It is
@BDM276
@BDM276 2 года назад
I remember doing this with the GTA1 CD-ROM. First track was data. The other tracks are the radio stations.
@gregmiller7224
@gregmiller7224 2 года назад
I liked for GTA London on PS1 (not sure if it worked for GTA 1 & 2) how you could remove the game disc once the level was loaded and stick in a regular CD, a different track would play each time you hopped into a vehicle.
@chompythebeast
@chompythebeast Год назад
@@gregmiller7224 I remember doing this with Twisted Metal 2, but the tracks didn't auto-change like that, that's really cool. I think many (most?) PSX games worked that way, where you could pop out the disc and put in an audio CD to soundtrack your game instead
@Justin-wd2vy
@Justin-wd2vy 3 года назад
You know you're a nostalgia nerd when you're still rick rolling people.
@nunyabusiness69
@nunyabusiness69 3 года назад
Yanno, I asked a coworker about 10years younger than me...had no clue about rick rolling. I felt so old lol
@arnox4554
@arnox4554 3 года назад
Is it really outdated though? I still see it happen on the regular, though admittedly, it's not nearly to the frequency it once was.
@lotus_flower2001
@lotus_flower2001 3 года назад
It came back around 8 months ago, around the time "get stickbugged" was popular. Its not dead..just resting.
@fisch37
@fisch37 2 года назад
@candyman Tbh, I think it's too repetitive
@theoffchannel2054
@theoffchannel2054 5 лет назад
**never going to give you up plays** Me: **checks upload date** not April 1?
@koolgabieboi2816
@koolgabieboi2816 4 года назад
agree
@YoudonknowwhoIam
@YoudonknowwhoIam 3 года назад
It was a cd mistake where he accidentally put a rick astley cd where track 1 is never gonna give you up
@Xnoob545
@Xnoob545 3 года назад
@@YoudonknowwhoIam "accidentally"
@thepoliticalstartrek
@thepoliticalstartrek 5 лет назад
If it was a PS1 game you would be hearing the anti piracy wobble.
@kregadeth5562
@kregadeth5562 5 лет назад
Carter Baker woah making the discs black was racist I think. Jk
@MAGGOT_VOMIT
@MAGGOT_VOMIT 5 лет назад
@@kregadeth5562 *and placing a label on top of the disc meant we were ashamed of the discs blackness.* *They'll be expecting a check.*
@KnuckleHunkybuck
@KnuckleHunkybuck 5 лет назад
+Craig Hobbs It wasn't making the discs black that was racist. It was when you put a black disc in a drive that you expected other discs to work in and you knew a black disc wasn't willing to work that was racist.
@thepoliticalstartrek
@thepoliticalstartrek 5 лет назад
@@KnuckleHunkybuck To be honest the black disk portion. Only stopped the disk from playing in very cheap cd/DVD units.. Thete is nothing special about the CD head on the Playstation.
@KnuckleHunkybuck
@KnuckleHunkybuck 5 лет назад
+Carter Baker Did the black discs at least run faster?
@ianwebster3489
@ianwebster3489 3 года назад
The sound from that CD really freaked out my droid.
@chipmo
@chipmo 3 года назад
Was I the only one who suspected we were going to be rickrolled a second time at 9:04 ?
@TheKing0fSting
@TheKing0fSting 3 года назад
Just wait 50 seconds
@amogus7
@amogus7 3 года назад
neou
@diffdimgamerseven9986
@diffdimgamerseven9986 2 года назад
same here
@skeetsmcgrew3282
@skeetsmcgrew3282 5 лет назад
That is the first time I've ever been kinda pissed about being Rick Rolled. But bravo sir, you got me in 2019
@OfficerPedroAlvarez
@OfficerPedroAlvarez 5 лет назад
Me 2
@redgh
@redgh 5 лет назад
I Kinda still want to watch the video but I kind of don’t
@jordananderson8299
@jordananderson8299 5 лет назад
Excuse me what is a rickroll anyway
@skeetsmcgrew3282
@skeetsmcgrew3282 5 лет назад
JordanMatthew Anderson Idk where it started, but at some point in the early 2000's it became a joke to link people to a video that said like "You won't believe what this girl puts where!!" And then it's just "Never gonna give you up," specifically his bizarre choice of spinning his arms in the video... Man, I'm so old I'm explaining outdated internet memes
@BigAL68xyz
@BigAL68xyz 5 лет назад
For a second, I thought Rickrolling was a thing way back in the mid 90's and I had missed it somehow. But it was clearly NN doing the Rickrolling, not the game publisher.
@rhysianstarr9697
@rhysianstarr9697 5 лет назад
friend: *hands me the aux cord* friend: you better not play track one of this game cd on any audio cd player me:
@kirbyfan18yt
@kirbyfan18yt 3 года назад
2:45 we were rick rolled
@rum-ham
@rum-ham 2 года назад
I love that the metal mesh over the speaker has an obligatory impossible to fix dent in it, mine had one of those too.
@Hoppschwizer
@Hoppschwizer 5 лет назад
I got rickrolld in 2019. This meme never dies.
@kangar1797
@kangar1797 5 лет назад
Luzifer never gonna give you up
@queenbiscuit311
@queenbiscuit311 5 лет назад
KanGar Never gonna let you down.
@kangar1797
@kangar1797 5 лет назад
David Cortés DaFailboatFan never gonna run around and desert you
@masterfoxify7526
@masterfoxify7526 5 лет назад
KanGar Never gonna make you cry
@kangar1797
@kangar1797 5 лет назад
Clarissa 1986 Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
@tomodlin
@tomodlin 5 лет назад
I was half expecting this to break out into a TechMoan with all that talk of wow, flutter, and replacing tape parts. And then, out of nowhere, Astley.
@allan.n.7227
@allan.n.7227 5 лет назад
haha.. yes.. Techmoan do mention wow and flutter regurlarly :)
@alls0p69
@alls0p69 5 лет назад
I was right there with ya until 2:52
@CountScarlioni
@CountScarlioni 5 лет назад
LOL so it wasn't just me getting TechMoan vibes in this!
@acmild
@acmild 5 лет назад
Those wow and flutter
@allan.n.7227
@allan.n.7227 5 лет назад
@@CountScarlioni certainly not :).. wow and flutter wow and flutter wow and flutter :)
@mdrudholm
@mdrudholm 3 года назад
A Red Book compliant CD-DA player will start playing audio at Track 01, Index 01. So CDs that had data and Red Book audio would/should put the data at Track 01, Index 00. The problem we ("we" being Philips) discovered was that many (most?) CD-DA players were not exactly Red Book compliant. Later, this got solved by multi-session CDs. Legacy CD-DA players wouldn't find any session but the first one, so anything that wasn't Red Book audio would be on the second session. Interestingly, CD-DA players eventually seem to have abandoned Indices for whatever reason. I guess having 99 tracks provided enough address space for users to reach the bits of audio they were looking for. It's still part of the spec, though.
@davidbrown1573
@davidbrown1573 3 года назад
Your disc player may have a built in protection against playing data as an audio frequency. I had a copy of red alert counterstrike that I accidentally played the data track once and it sounded quite similar to a 56K modem or fax machine busy line. That's what is supposed to play on older devices. Though some discs, much like red alert counterstrike had bonus audio tracks too.
@Alkarym24
@Alkarym24 5 лет назад
Castlevania symphony of the night had a man with a deep voice saying "this is a PlayStation black disc. Track number one contains game data. Please don't play it in a CD player.... But you probably won't listen to me anyway" followed by a hidden music from the game.
@worland102688
@worland102688 2 года назад
A pretty badass remixed song not in the game proper. =) I'm glad SOMEONE mentioned it =)
@DragonSamurai182
@DragonSamurai182 2 года назад
Not just ANY deep voice. I believe that was the voice of Alucard.
@kengreen8460
@kengreen8460 5 лет назад
Is anybody else disappointed that the track wasn't a spell to summon Cthulhu?
@renakunisaki
@renakunisaki 4 года назад
You have to play it backwards for that.
@dustinmorse8497
@dustinmorse8497 3 года назад
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.
@uplink-on-yt
@uplink-on-yt 3 года назад
Oh, but it was...
@aradiati0n
@aradiati0n 3 года назад
oh no, it is, but only the ancient ones can understand it
@Boss_Tanaka
@Boss_Tanaka 2 года назад
It a digital version of the neconomicon
@todensarg
@todensarg 4 года назад
Noise artists: *i t s f r e e r e a l e s t a t e*
@patchso
@patchso 4 года назад
Great vid. There's always something new to learn.
@rsrt6910
@rsrt6910 5 лет назад
I was hoping for satanic voices calling forth demons from hell... but that static was okay too.
@Roadent1241
@Roadent1241 5 лет назад
Rs Rt I have the image of JonTron's face to pure static in my head XD
@darylcheshire1618
@darylcheshire1618 5 лет назад
You do not want satanic voices...
@BrendonGreenNZL
@BrendonGreenNZL 5 лет назад
What I find amusing is; the software in question supposedly fits on a floppy disc. They had an entire 700MB CDROM to fill; they could have quite easily applied stegonography to encode the data into some music, let's say by Rick Astley, if they wanted to ;-).
@SumDumGai5
@SumDumGai5 5 лет назад
@@darylcheshire1618 You really don't. I know from experience.
@MAGGOT_VOMIT
@MAGGOT_VOMIT 5 лет назад
*No demons but I thought I caught a glimpse of some sort of Bavarian Chinchilla.*
@ButcherGrindslam
@ButcherGrindslam 5 лет назад
Never gonna give you Zool. Never gonna blast this fool. Never gonna turn around and waste you.
@thegreathadoken6808
@thegreathadoken6808 5 лет назад
Never gonna fall and die, Never play a CDi, Never gonna ever buy, A Wii U. Sorry...
@mrkitty777
@mrkitty777 5 лет назад
Rick Ashley!
@ReshiLuna
@ReshiLuna 5 лет назад
@@thegreathadoken6808 lol.. :3
@festival3051
@festival3051 5 лет назад
Lmao!
@jennifervanko5587
@jennifervanko5587 5 лет назад
@@thegreathadoken6808 Nice one !
@boydbrown7395
@boydbrown7395 3 года назад
Best Rick Roll ever!!! And, you still had a video to finish. Well done!
@gingerman5123
@gingerman5123 3 года назад
1:30 WOW! That was the first CD player I ever had. I got it for Christmas early-ish 90's.
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 5 лет назад
The Rickroll will never get old.
@brentwallace3440
@brentwallace3440 5 лет назад
Helium Road tit
@saints360row
@saints360row 5 лет назад
Helium Road People said the same about The Duckroll.
@BrendonGreenNZL
@BrendonGreenNZL 5 лет назад
I'm never going to give you up!
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 5 лет назад
@@BrendonGreenNZL Never gonna let you down!
@MAGGOT_VOMIT
@MAGGOT_VOMIT 5 лет назад
*But, but.......................I thought he was Bleck.*
@olik136
@olik136 5 лет назад
you do know that you will get a call from your parents in two to 2000 weeks: " you broke our stereo!- It has been fine before and than you did your youtube thing and now we can't hear......"
@paulgascoigne5343
@paulgascoigne5343 5 лет назад
Haha.. If they are like my parents, CDs are too modern and untrustworthy. My dad complains the hard drive in his computer gets stuck and physically shakes it if something doesn't load properly.
@MagusMarquillin
@MagusMarquillin 5 лет назад
@@paulgascoigne5343 Tell him he's got to take off the cover, remove the HD and blow into the prongs.
@Architector_4
@Architector_4 5 лет назад
@@paulgascoigne5343 What if you were put an SSD into his machine? lol
@kandigloss6438
@kandigloss6438 5 лет назад
I've played cd-roms in my old stereos before, it never ruined them.
@dylanharding5720
@dylanharding5720 5 лет назад
@James Fondren I'd give him an ssd if I were you
@przekovski
@przekovski 3 года назад
Thanks for explaining in great detail this episode of my childhood.
@paulomartins1008
@paulomartins1008 3 года назад
Years have passed since I've been properly Rick Rolled like that...
@loleq2137
@loleq2137 5 лет назад
I bursted out laughing when Rick Astley started playing 😂
@firenado4295
@firenado4295 5 лет назад
same
@hdckighfkvhvgmk
@hdckighfkvhvgmk 5 лет назад
@@firenado4295 ^
@DkViking1
@DkViking1 5 лет назад
Me too. That was a great joke. He sure got me! 😂
@swausgaming23123
@swausgaming23123 5 лет назад
I remember putting shenmue into a cd player and all i got was chai screaming at me. It was terrifiying
@gamesmithy
@gamesmithy 4 года назад
Dio Brando so not that different from the game really
@kasenengel3710
@kasenengel3710 3 года назад
It is a warning to tell you to stop. Because it WILL explode your speakers if you play track 1
@ukemi-
@ukemi- 3 года назад
thanks Dio
@GotCamel
@GotCamel 4 года назад
That was the most epic Rick Rolling I have ever encountered. Great job sir! Great job!
@KJMcLaws
@KJMcLaws 3 года назад
Anyone else keep getting this recommended every so often and then watching it again just because?
@AllegoricSiren
@AllegoricSiren 5 лет назад
Damnit read comments and got it spoiled for me I feel strangely betrayed
@TexstyleQuest
@TexstyleQuest 5 лет назад
I still thought Rick was on the video and was like these game developers saw the future
@edfjets101
@edfjets101 5 лет назад
Serves you right. no one looks i the comments first unless they want a spoiler
@smqflgaming
@smqflgaming 4 года назад
watch the whole video before you read the comments
@ghostbiggie
@ghostbiggie 5 лет назад
Rick rolling? Even your memes induce nostalgia. Thought when you slowed playback down it was gonna be another rick roll!
@Susrek
@Susrek 5 лет назад
Nostalgia implies something is from a previous generation or at least when you were young if you're at least mid-life.
@Jtower1967
@Jtower1967 3 года назад
You have earned my subscription, sir!
@josephiroth89
@josephiroth89 2 года назад
So in the end, do you prefer CDs or tapes?
@HotRodHippie
@HotRodHippie 5 лет назад
Man the days when you could just pop in a game CD and listen to music takes me back. I listened to Quake II's soundtrack on repeat when I was 12.
@djmhyde
@djmhyde 5 лет назад
this remind me when i was a little kid and discovered that my beloved GTA 1 Playstation CD could play the radio stations in my stereo, at first i was scared (track 1) but afterwards was very cool, a rollercoaster of emotions
@dicthorian
@dicthorian 5 лет назад
Well the Quake soundtrack was a Nine Inch Nails CD, No wonder you were rocking it out. You could also pop in another audio CD and it would play those tracks also example Motorhead.
@AirknightTails
@AirknightTails 5 лет назад
Same here with the original Rayman
@HotRodHippie
@HotRodHippie 5 лет назад
@@dicthorian Quake 2 was a DJ called Sonic Mayhem but yea, when I was developing actual musical tastes that game was a foundation, ha.
@dicthorian
@dicthorian 5 лет назад
@@HotRodHippie OH CRAP Quake2, sorry.
@GtBFilms
@GtBFilms 5 лет назад
Very trusting parents allowing you to experiment on their aged stereo. My dad's still not really forgiven me for typing random numbers into his TVPlus remote control to see what it would do.
@itryen7632
@itryen7632 3 года назад
Thanks for reccomending me this on april fool's day, youtube.
@Lucas-pc2rt
@Lucas-pc2rt 3 года назад
Same bruh how is this even possible
@ilCosta
@ilCosta 3 года назад
Imagine hearing this sound at night in the woods.....
@TheCrystalGlow
@TheCrystalGlow 5 лет назад
This dude just rickrolled the entire internet at once. Well done, sir.
@MrShanester117
@MrShanester117 4 года назад
Chris Storer Not really because all of you dumbasses in the comment section spoiled the joke
@ripperfisher182250
@ripperfisher182250 4 года назад
@@MrShanester117 comments are generally used to comment on the video. Reading them will put you at risk of spoiling. You should know this by now ..
@MrShanester117
@MrShanester117 4 года назад
LappyTyde 🖕
@ripperfisher182250
@ripperfisher182250 4 года назад
@@MrShanester117 what are you twelve lol
@Gaviid
@Gaviid 4 года назад
800k views is not the entire internet you obese nerd
@CreationCarlos
@CreationCarlos 5 лет назад
Dreamcast games have a warning message that plays in cd players when you try to play them.
@goompo
@goompo 5 лет назад
*WARNING TO ALL SONIC FANS: In the year 2006, we expect the WORST Sonic game, so please DON'T buy it!! And about Nintendo, Sonic will be ported there and --* Me: Why'd I even put my Seamen disc in there? Welp, might as well play it.
@CreationCarlos
@CreationCarlos 5 лет назад
@@goompo lolwhat
@Roosterrock149
@Roosterrock149 5 лет назад
Those aren't CDs technically though, they're GDs, which are proprietary disks specially for the Dreamcast
@sonikku1011
@sonikku1011 5 лет назад
Grayson Tartt No the worst Sonic game came out in 2014, Sonic Boom rise of lyric. 06 never caused my 360 to freeze but Rise of Lyric made my Wii U freeze.
@ZeOHKay
@ZeOHKay 5 лет назад
Same with Sega CD games.
@DTM1337
@DTM1337 Год назад
Great video, I did wonder what would happen haha :D
@MusicToTheEars141
@MusicToTheEars141 2 года назад
Thank you so much. This guy changed my life by Rick Rolling me. I don't know what I'd do without this song as my #1 favourite. You're my hero, Nostalgia Nerd. I'll never forget this time I was first ever Rick Rolled.
@C64TV
@C64TV 5 лет назад
2:40 - We all fell for it! PS: Turn the treble up a bit on your boombox.
@maicod
@maicod 5 лет назад
I think it is a dirty head ;-)
@creutzwald1105
@creutzwald1105 5 лет назад
I had a problem the other way around. I had a child school game for PC and it encouraged you to put it in the Stereo to play the games soundtrack, but my mother forbid it because she was scared that it would break the stereo. That's now well over 20 years ago. I wonder if I still find this CD xD
@OMA2k
@OMA2k 3 года назад
Early CDs that mixed data and audio played "noise" in track 1 (the data track) and the music in tracks from 2 onwards, but later CDs used a "multi-session" system so audio players could only see the audio tracks, and even track 1 contained music as well. That CD was probably the latter type and thus, completely safe to play in an audio system, especially given that it was a children's game CD.
@jerryalexis576
@jerryalexis576 3 года назад
I got Rickrolled so hard. For a moment I genuinely thought they were some sort of time travelers and decided to pull a prank on us.
@the1stwing
@the1stwing 3 года назад
I was full on waiting for the white noise (I saw the AVGN video where he showed this off) Props to you for catching me off guard
@KillerQ13
@KillerQ13 5 лет назад
I used to do this as a kid for shits and giggles. Interestingly if the data contains 16-bit uncompressed audio, it will play it (albeit surrounded by noise before and after and possibly the wrong speed). I figured this out when I popped in an encyclopedia CD-ROM. :P
@volksrod6926
@volksrod6926 5 лет назад
I would put playstation 1 discs in my CD player, many of them you could actually play the games whole soundtrack. I thought it was cool
@BlindLibrary
@BlindLibrary 5 лет назад
I tried it one time with an older computer game disc and was pleasantly surprised that even though with how dirty and disfigured the content sounded, I could mostly still understand it. I miss those older days. If I could only treat a CD like a tape and slow it down to a preferred speed to fall asleep to, lol...
@jamesstewart5005
@jamesstewart5005 5 лет назад
There is no PCM audio, only Zool 2.
@5roundsrapid263
@5roundsrapid263 5 лет назад
James Stewart I was just going to say this!
@DavidChipman
@DavidChipman 5 лет назад
Are you the CD Master?
@anSealgair
@anSealgair 5 лет назад
Well it's the game keeper
@kylemanthe9771
@kylemanthe9771 3 года назад
Instant sub. A man of taste.
@roberteltze4850
@roberteltze4850 3 года назад
Back in those days I had a friend that put a Sun Solaris install CD in an audio player and there was an audio track of someone saying "hello, most people never find this..." followed by a brief promotional message
@bbgun061
@bbgun061 5 лет назад
I remember when I discovered that the Railroad Tycoon cd could be played in an audio cd player. The first track was the game data but the rest were the music from the game!
@kneesnap1041
@kneesnap1041 5 лет назад
Same with Frogger
@chrisbridges1328
@chrisbridges1328 5 лет назад
The sound track to Red Alert had This awesome military style music from the game soundtrack
@dylanharding5720
@dylanharding5720 4 года назад
@Gernot Schrader it likely wasn't mp3, but rather cda?
@dylanharding5720
@dylanharding5720 4 года назад
It was commonplace for many games.
@skk7593
@skk7593 5 лет назад
That place in time when you went to the PC store and bought a game in a box that had more than just a CD or floppy.
@bwc1976
@bwc1976 3 года назад
I love the sleek all-black look of those 90's stereos! Also what was the music from the beginning (before you played the Nightlights cassette)?
@YooWot
@YooWot 3 года назад
It's actually a really good video. CD-ROM could fit data, audio and video on the same disc (.EXE .WAV .AVI/MPEG). I was thinking you were going to point out the difference in sound, if any, putting it into an audio device without a PC and we would hear modem noises (I used to do this to wake my housemates up when they drink too much too early). I didn't know CD players actually implemented tech that could read the data as a sound (backwards as that sends written it makes sense to me as I'm drunk). Thank you for that and I did thumbsup the comment just below thinking it was the first Rickroll as well. Also the Rick Astley song used is only 3:35 so I want wiping when I watched you put the right disc in for a 4:04 (editing is the new God). Good job Tim (errr I meant Eric sorry I meant Nerd). Peace!
@megatronVS
@megatronVS 5 лет назад
I still remember putting the Total Annihilation disc into my PC only to find my drive read it as an audio CD, allowing me to take the whole uncompressed soundtrack from the disc.... I love that game.
@TheTurnipKing
@TheTurnipKing 3 года назад
I actually bought it on GOG just because it included the soundtrack and I was too lazy to dig out the disc
@albonymus1682
@albonymus1682 3 года назад
I hope you are not aware that the Symbol you use on your Profile Pick is pretty much THE Neonazi Symbol of modern times and probably brought to life by the SS itself....
@kezkai
@kezkai 3 года назад
@@albonymus1682 I wouldn't give them the benefit of the doubt. There is not a chance in hell that they aren't aware. It isn't 'pretty much' a Nazi symbol, it literally is a Nazi symbol. It was created specifically for and by Nazis, and later adopted by Nazi occultists. There is not a single logical reason for anyone other than a Nazi to use it. This person is a Nazi.
@sirconman
@sirconman 4 года назад
Me: *anxiously lowers volume* Video:NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP- Me:... Well that was unexpected.
@IABITVpresents
@IABITVpresents 3 года назад
that was also me
@Charldeon
@Charldeon 3 года назад
me too, because my dad told me about a cassette tape called a demagnetizer, he said that I should turn down the volume to 0 when I use it or the speakers will blow up, so i thought it's like this too
@zyme5998
@zyme5998 3 года назад
Me: This is going to sound so terrible, I have to watch it & hear that noise again... Me 3 min later: Damn it, after over a decade I'd never been Rick-Rolled, thought I was finally in the clear... --P.S. it's an interesting coincidence that the track length was 404 in the old cd player too, I had assumed it was going to be an Easter Egg of sorts by whatever developer programmed that noise protection feature into the newer model player..
@bluegirlgraphics
@bluegirlgraphics 2 года назад
Reminds me of when my dad used to have a brand new Tandy computer (back in the day) and he hooked up a tape recorder / player and put in a tape. I pushed "play" and heard what sounded like a fax. I remember asking what kind of music that was as he pushed stop, got everything set up and told me "It's not music... just wait" and then he played it as the computer went on and it was a program :)
@firstnamelastname4752
@firstnamelastname4752 Год назад
I know this video is old, but... The game Descent 2 had the game music on track 2 onwards, and my 10 year old mind was blown at the sound of industrial metal electronica. 28 years later and it's still my favourite music genre.
@matthewday7565
@matthewday7565 5 лет назад
The two reasons are: 1. Unpleasantly loud noise, since it would be at 100% in the days before all CDs were recorded at the 100% wall 2. High frequency content could possibly damage tweeters, as they are often rated rather lower than the woofer For mixed mode CD, the later solution was enhanced CD, when later CD-ROM drives supported multisession. Since old CD players didn't understand multisession, they played audio tracks from the first session which was all they knew about … the same would result from very old PC CD-ROM drives of the 1x/2x era. The data track was in the second session
@silkwesir1444
@silkwesir1444 5 лет назад
I wonder why that latter solution was used so rarely. Did they not trust that it would always work?
@tin2001
@tin2001 5 лет назад
Multisession CDs didn't read in some early CDROM drives. Our Creative 2x CD drive didn't like them. I ran across some up to about the 8X era that wouldn't read multisession. The next problem was that some audio CD players also struggled with them because, despite the obvious logic being to play what it sees first, some would still see the extra stuff there and either list 0 tracks, or claim there was no disk. This was a big problem for audio CDs that had bonus PC features - so big of problem that they were banned from using the CD Audio logo on any such disks.
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 5 лет назад
It's technically not red book audio anymore. Since a red book CD is so rigidly defined, the electronics could be designed to be very simple. That means CD players are often very dumb devices. If you mess with the specifications and bend the rules, there's no telling what all those dumb players would do. You've pulled the rug out from under them, having said "the disc layout should always look like this..." and then suddenly it doesn't. Same thing for all those DRM techniques. Most of them inserted invalid data into the TOC. Well every now and then a player would read it and get totally confused and fall over. So, no CD Audio logo for those either. While we're on the topic of rigid standards... Technically all tracks are supposed to have two seconds of silence as a pregap (index 00, where the player counts -0:01, -0:00, 0:00, 0:01 ...), but that rule got broken so early that I've never run across a player that couldn't handle a 0-second pregap. And all players I've heard play the audio data in the pregap as well, which I suppose should be optional since it's supposed to be silence. Aside from the obvious purpose of gapless track transitions, the gap thing provided means for all manner of shenanigans. Every now and then I would write a custom TOC and burn a CD-R with maybe several minutes of audio data before 0:00 on track 1. :-) Shenanigans.
@steviebboy69
@steviebboy69 5 лет назад
I have heard digital noise on the computer before as in PC, but it was a much faster data rate than he showed on the old cd player. It sounded more like White Noise and its WAY louder than normal music. not only wreck your Tweeters but hurt your ears as well.
@bibasik7
@bibasik7 5 лет назад
"High frequency content could possibly damage tweeters" ... ... ... Don't want Donald Trump to get damaged.
@jcthe2nd
@jcthe2nd 5 лет назад
Cheeky we all got rick rolled i like it
@Elenrai
@Elenrai 5 лет назад
I feel like its 2008 again.
@RWL2012
@RWL2012 5 лет назад
@Monty Python the Flying Circus the rickroll meme came about in 2007-2008
@Elenrai
@Elenrai 5 лет назад
@Monty Python the Flying Circus This; ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6yzeK4c9Y5g.html That is all.
@Jedidiah_Martin_2
@Jedidiah_Martin_2 5 лет назад
"Here's a song that was written by a gay guy!"
@AndrusPr8
@AndrusPr8 3 года назад
The best rick roll I the unexpected one. And you sir, you've mastered it
@magnuslilleberg1941
@magnuslilleberg1941 Год назад
Nice RR! You actually had my WTF-o-meter going off for a few milliseconds...
@kevin12567
@kevin12567 5 лет назад
Nice Rickroll...and a clever way of showing that the CD player functions properly!
@theomeester90
@theomeester90 5 лет назад
I really liked to have lived with the idea they did the very first rickroll.. Nice joke
@Fei_PL
@Fei_PL Год назад
I honestly didn't saw it coming. Nice one
@juancarlos22mx
@juancarlos22mx 3 года назад
Me encanta tu canal, todos los dias aprendo algo que no necesito pero es divertido aprender. Saludos y me suscribo
@MisutaaAsriel
@MisutaaAsriel 5 лет назад
This reminds me of when i was a small kid and got an XMen mini-CD in a happy meal. Didn't say whether it's for PC or Audio. I naturally put it in my portable cd player, which happened to be turned up. I cried for a good fifteen minutes, and my ears rung the first two.
@Gabriel-vl2ft
@Gabriel-vl2ft 5 лет назад
I enjoy both... Nerds. But I am wondering if you already had the Rick Astley CD, or went out and bought it specifically for this video?
@silkwesir1444
@silkwesir1444 5 лет назад
Maybe his parents had that in their CD rack
@swanningabout
@swanningabout 5 лет назад
I've shit myself
@Radeo
@Radeo 5 лет назад
Yeah..."bought"...
@muffntheB
@muffntheB 5 лет назад
if you add in the pink electro cassette and the care bears shirt, your getting a glimpse into a lifestyle, not a bit for a youtube video
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 3 года назад
That's EXACTLY what I would have done! Thanks for showing.
@AlignToDeliver
@AlignToDeliver Год назад
ZX Spectrum tape loader was exactly what it reminded me of. Great video. Thanks.
@metalmichew2
@metalmichew2 5 лет назад
These old stereos where amazing, i remember that i got my grandparents stereo after they passed away, it had a microphone jack and an actual EQ on it, by buying the Boss HM-2 and a big jack to small jack connector i had my first death metal guitar amp lol.
@wisteela
@wisteela 5 лет назад
Apparently, at high volumes it can cause speaker damage.
@paulgascoigne5343
@paulgascoigne5343 5 лет назад
Rick Astley?
@TheTurnipKing
@TheTurnipKing 5 лет назад
@@paulgascoigne5343 Him too
@mfbfreak
@mfbfreak 5 лет назад
It contains more high frequency information than the usual music signal, which causes tweeter overload at a lower than usual sound level. At low volume like in the demo there's no harm in it.
@xtaltia
@xtaltia 5 лет назад
@@mfbfreak By no means an expert but I suspect that's myth. Digital information is inherently bounded. I expect it's possible a manufacturer could write firmware in such a way that unexpected data values can crash, or even damage, the controller.
@another1commenter770
@another1commenter770 5 лет назад
This is 100% what it was about. There were two issues. Data causing excessive HF driving causing high heat loading of transistors and tweeter capacitors. And data that contains long ultra low frequencies. The data track protection feature checks that the sounds fit a spectrum known not to damage the radio, lets say 30Hz - 25KHz. This protected both the speakers and amplifiers.
@yeagercomics
@yeagercomics 2 года назад
I remember this happening with my copy of Sonic R for the PC. There was no warning but I recall on a whim putting it in a CD player being greeted by a long track 1 of this crazy noise, followed by the full soundtrack of the game. Now I’m curious. Were the MP3s playable on the disk the same files the game was pulling from during gameplay? Or were they an unmarked bonus for use in a CD player? I remember the files just sitting on a folder on the disk. The very same files my iTunes uses to play me “Can You Feel the Sunshine” to this very day.
@megahedgehog2039
@megahedgehog2039 29 дней назад
Neither. Sonic R uses CD redbook audio for it's soundtrack, so the game reads the music off the cd
@Scyth3934
@Scyth3934 Год назад
god damn it that was really well done
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