@@NikolausHildebrand Liam's like a bulldog. He's a bit goofy and a little goofy looking, but he can throw hands, and his voice, like no one's business.
I've been listening to the backlog of episodes in a random order and it's a fun travel back in time when they discuss things like "we should make the episodes shorter and try to be less chaotic" or "I should stop interrupting Justin" like NO that is part of the CHARM
Random trivia about pier collapses: The fatal collapse of a pier on the island of Rügen in 1912 led to the creation of the now largest voluntary water rescue organization in the world (the German Life Saving Association). It's founders considered it a disgrace that 16 people drowned so close to the shore and under the eyes of hundreds of onlookers that were mostly unable to help. So they figured someone ought to make sure that a higher portion of the general population knows how to swim or how to rescue people who can't, as well as render first aid. These efforts have saved countless lifes since then. So in conclusion we can say that pier collapses are a land of contrasts.
Amongst other things the DLRG has a long history of teaching German kids to swim. Which is a great start for water accidents like that. The third level even includes basic life saving (how to haul a non-swimmer to shore for instance).
To be fair to Elon Musk's dad, the Apartheid emerald mine wasn't really an apartheid emerald mine because it was in Zambia this more than likely makes it a child/slave labour mine, which is much worse!
i always love when liam gets mad. he usually sounds like a drunk uncle shouting into justin’s office from the living room, then SOMETHING HAPPENS and then you’re just like ‘oh, he’s a real person.’
Coming right from Doylestown there actually is graffiti across from the Dunkin Donuts that says "arrest Ghislane Maxwell" and recently added "good job"
2 things: 1- look up an aircraft outflow valve 2- Alice can bantz all she wants in my book as long as Liam can get on the same audio quality as Justin and Alice. I will patreon you a microphone or something lmao
Can y'all do me a favor? As someone who lived through Katrina, can y'all do an episode on the absolute disaster that the emergency and relief was? Like seriously, the hurricane was the least destructive thing about it.
@@ChelloveckCog How about this joke I heard: A reporter asked George W. Bush what he thought of Roe v. Wade. He replied "I don't care how people get out of New Orleans."
I think that was the bit that roped me in. After a couple or three episodes, before I became comfortable with all their personalities but was amused well enough by the color commentary, I was balanced on a I-can-take-it-or-leave-it level of interest. But it was probably at the end of the fourth episode I watched, wondering why they kept changing their plans for the next episode. At that point I was still watching further episodes just by clicking recommended video links along the right. So I finally clicked into the account and went to the Videos tab to see if they ever got around to doing the Tacoma Narrows Bridge episode. And then it dawned on me: "are these fuckers trolling me?!? Ha!!"
Really appreciate how the podcast humanizes the victims of these tragedies. It fucking sucks to hear but it does help harden my heart against any and all members of the power elite
Yes, there was a spur to the various piers. Delaware Ave was awesome. So many trains running on insane tracks. My favorite story is a train went down the avenue and didn't realize that the rear boxcar had derailed. It proceeded to swing back and forth, destroying countless cars. When the crew realized something was wrong, they walked back and found that the car had retailed itself, the only evidence of its rampage was the destruction behind it, and car parts being drug behind it.
24:00 Recent fan going through the backlog here, so I know I'm WAAAAYYYY too late to weigh in here, but in 2006's The Godfather: The Game, you actually get to play as the guy Tom Hagen called in to sneak that severed horse head through the mansion. Decent stealth level for a fairly decent GTA clone. Game was honestly better than such a belated movie tie-in had any right to be. Hilarious and entirely unneccessary, is how I'd sum the game up. Just felt an urge to put that out there for anyone else who's scrolling through here a few years from now for whatever reason.
Suggestion:Make a WTYP minecraft server where Justin, Alice and Liam walk around reviewing the safety and aesthetics of buildings made in funny block game.
yeah i think at this point almost everyone in the comments is the kind of person who likes the podcast and your banter but have reasonable criticism, like you said also liam has never yelled at me in the comments but (i assume it was him) did yell at an especially vocal anti-immigrant racist who replied to one of my comments once so, thank you for doing that
Apparently the Moshulu there had a sail plan consisting of "4.180 m²; 34 sails: 18 square sails, 13 staysails, 3 spankers". I'm not sure what Alice will do with that, but I feel that she needs to know about the spankers on that ship.
Well, Justin did argue in the Costa Concordia episode that the traditional nautical practice of flogging should be instituted on modern cruise ships...
Time to throw a spanner in the proverbial works: I kinda like the long episodes because I can play the video, go back to what I'm doing and have a long banter-filled podcast I can listen to without having to leave what I'm doing to change videos.
Considering how many layers comprised that pier, I'm actually kind of surprised it took so long to fail. Here in California, we have already tested several similar structures but by subjecting them to a similar sort of force that changes directions repeatedly like the tide, only said motion has occurred much more rapidly. It seems to me that what they had with this pier failure was similar to the liquefaction that we see on some buildings during earthquakes, except the water from the tides in the case of this pier was also slowly rotting the foundation out as well. We have also learned from the shit our earthquakes do to things we build that layers of various things displace relative to one another with these changing forces on the structure unless you hook them together quite securely. Of course, since this was a pier, perhaps they expected to reconstruct the structure more frequently than the typical building and having more give in the structure might have made any damage from ships accidentally hitting the pier from being as damaging. I don't know. There was this bar that I would go to all the time to play open mic before the pandemic and I noticed a potential issue with the building. After the sequence of a 6.4 earthquake (which I shockingly almost didn't feel and ironically was looking at the map of recent earthquakes during) and a 7.1 the next day (which I was kind of happy to feel because I felt like I got left out the day before), I noticed that the bathroom door was sticking pretty significantly in the door jam compared to how it was before the earthquakes. I was already a bit leery of that building when it comes to earthquakes because it's a brick building and it's an old one. I do see where they've pretty obviously cut through the brick and retrofitted it likely with steel cross beams but the most obviously place where I've seen this is (surprise) right by that particular bathroom. It's a very uniquely shaped building, which is what makes the open mic acoustics so much better than a lot of other places but that obvious retrofit place is pretty clearly where the building would be most vulnerable to the direction that past earthquake waves would have impacted it. I say past waves because, like everything else when it comes to safety, something has to get fucked up before people do anything even though there is definitely a way to anticipate problems and mitigate them before they fuck stuff up or kill people but this is yet another reason why we can't have nice things or at least we can't have them for long. In any case, I don't care how I die because I'm stuck having to die at some point anyway, but what I don't want is to get more disabled or trapped by some fucking bullshit like that.
Hi there, I don't know if you guys are taking ideas for future episodes, but I think we South Americans need some more love (the Goiânia Incident episode was hilarious though). The 2012 Buenos Aires rail disaster (aka the Once Tragedy) would be an interesting one, because it has a lot of engineering, historic and political aspects leading to the incident, and a HUGE aftermath for the argentinian railways. Also, this episode is triggering my OCD.
@Bournemouth Beach Oh, so you recognise me as one of the stream mods? Nice to meet ya! Unfortunately, I don't have that kind of power within it. I just help with kicking the fash for saying dumb shit out of the chat & cheering on the team. It would be cool though, even just for fun. I definitely want the TF gang to come on a Novara stream. That would be the dream, for sure 😁
This show has a unique gift for being simultaneously incredibly informative and incredibly ludicrous... Please don't change. P.S. The German / Scottish conversation ending with an "Aye" and a shrug nearly caused a spit-take...
Someone recommended this to me when I asked if anyone knew about any good podcasts to listen to. I’ve ended up watching/listening to all of them and killing my data package as result! Being from the UK there’s been quite a few that I hadn’t heard of before but it’s been good learning about them (actually I’m not sure that good is the right word really). Great work all of you.
I wonder if it crossed anyone’s mind in Philadelphia that it would be kinda fucked to rename a road that was named after a Native American tribe (Delaware Ave.) to one named after Columbus. I guess that’s one more thing he took away from them.
I must say as much as i enjoy listening to Alice run her mouth all the time, the change of pace was refreshing. Alright, back to Alice's regularly scheduled tomfoolery now.
I just sent my email with my donation receipt, but I also included suggestions and notes for an episode on Jacksonville, especially since the city is about to become a slaughter house during the RNC.
All I know about Jacksonville is what I learned from The Good Place. It took me a long time to realise that Blake Bortles is a real-life person and not just a running gag.
When Alice says "Let's try to fit this in an hour" and Justin says "Anything can happen", did anyone else just hear Commander Shore in their heads saying "ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN IN THE NEXT HALF HOUR", and get really excited to see how the Aquaphibians were responsible for the pier collapse?
I love looking at Stingray from the Cold War perspective. You send your submarine off on a mission but they stop responding to radio calls. The only possible solution is to hide the whole town underground to dramatic music in anticipation of nukes flying.
I mean I thought having a coffee with a burger in LA as a meal was weird, but bread in a can might just one-up that. And I come from a country whose cuisine is basically, "dead animals with some veg we stole from the Americas". 😂
@@DeadWhiteButterflies Well, traditionally brown bread is steamed in an old tin can rather than baked, but these days it's usually bought at the store. And think like a dense pumpernickel with lots of molasses rather than regular "bread". Oh, and usually you fry it in butter before you serve it ;)
Mats? My goodness what an idea! Why didn't I think of that? There's four places. There's Mat Hut, that's on third. There's Mats R Us, that's on third too. You got Put-Your-Mat-There. That's on third. Swing Low, Sweet Pier... matter of fact. They're all in the same complex; the mat complex on third.
American Specialty Restaurant Corp. built all those WWI and WWII themed restaurants near airports across the country, like 94th Aero Squadron in San Diego and 100th Bomb Group in Cleveland. I spose buying that ship was a good idea from their point of view, but knowing them they probably didn't put any money into the structure itself.
when flights went non-smoking airlines used the opportunity to slow the rate of cabin air replacement. I think before the ban it was two or three minutes for 100% replacement, then went to nine or so after. It might be different now, but I recall seeing something like this on the news over 20 years ago. So I might also be cliff claven...
Despite having seen the picture dozens of times going back decades, seeing this whilst going through the back catalogue, I suddenly noticed that the collapsing Tacoma Narrows bridge section looks exactly like a wolf's head bending down to drink the river water. It's uncanny... the bridge supports in the background even look like its legs. I don't know whether this is a big part of the Tacoma Narrows lore already, but its the first time I've ever noticed it and I can't unsee it. Pareidolia is amazing.
Reminds me of the two drunks walking along the pier, counting the cracks between the deck boards. One counts the even numbered ones and the other counts the odd numbered ones. "599." (Splash). "600." (Splash). The moral of the story is, "When you're out of slits, you're out of pier."
If the Cool Zone is defined as "a period in history that's cool to read about but you wouldn't want to live through it", then we're probably in it for the rest of our lives
THANK YOU ALICE. I love listening to you gurl, you just have a tendency to derail things a lot. I'm not mad about it or whatever because I'm not an asshole lmao but I do appreciate letting the discussion stay a little closer to the topic at hand. ❤️
I don't think breaking up a disaster into multiple episodes is necessarily bad buuuuut if it was a pre-planned thing and you do research for each part then you could put some legs on certain disasters.
Fun facts on that first slide: the pier is a sports complex called Chelsea Piers but the white building behind it is the IAC interactive corporation building. The architect designed it so from above it looks like a boat with waves crashing over the bow
according to a pilot friend who flew the 747 and 777 for something like 400 years, the bigger tube liners have a pair of vents in the back directly to the atmosphere that you could easily throw a suitcase through.. so the amount of pressurized air cycling through the aircraft is pretty nuts.
OMG!!! I stumbled across this podcast looking for information on pier 34 for a school assignment. I love it!! forgot all about the assignment,I listened to you guys and then fell asleep. I am from Philly so its interesting to hear what happened!!
These days, flying Transatlantic actually feels quite short to me (especially with a 250kph tailwind, landing 45 minutes early), after I had the unfortunate experience of being on an Emirates flight from Dubai to Auckland with a baby two rows away crying non-stop. 16 hours that was, and I had been awake for over 24 hours before, flying from Düsseldorf to Dubai. I damn nearly went insane. The flight back didn't have any crying babies, but took even longer due to a stop in Melbourne. You haven't been tired unless you've traveled for 50 hours straight without sleep inbetween.
Not a single reference to the goat/ton conversion factor, which by my estimates would have clearly indicated a structural defect as opposed to faulty carpeting.
Just putting this out there, but as a long time listener I always enjoyed the normal amount of interjections from Alice and never felt the need for a reduction. I get the logistics of it, but just wanted to say it was still fun to listen to!
I love how long your episodes are, in fact, I would love a 5 hour long podcast lol :D I mainly listen while glancing up at the slides while sewing so.. the longer the merrier? :D
