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Were the Israelites hot-boxing in the temple? 

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@johnburn8031
@johnburn8031 Месяц назад
Well Yahweh is called "The Most High." I'll show myself out...
@ds6972
@ds6972 Месяц назад
zing!!! LOL
@xx99Username99xx
@xx99Username99xx Месяц назад
Dan actually has another video about how The Most High (El Elyon) was likely a different deity from Yahweh originally, possibly a kind of father figure to YHWH and other national gods. Deuteronomy 32:8-9 for context. (Scholarly opinion seems mixed on this point, though I personally think Dan's take makes more sense than the alternative.) **edit**: So by "opinion seems mixed," I mean that I've seen these same verses covered in the footnotes of the Oxford Annotated Bible, NRSV, 5th edition, as well as in a lecture by Hebrew Bible scholar Richard Friedman. I think it was his "Death of the Gods" lecture, part of a course he has available here on RU-vid. I think both of these are generally trustworthy sources, and both acknowledged that the Song of Moses, properly translated, depicts Yahweh existing alongside other national deities, and these deities having their respective nations given to them by El Elyon. But both of these sources still seemed to accept the traditional assumption that Elyon is Yahweh here, meaning that Elyon/YHWH kept Israel for himself, rather than the former giving it over to the latter. I hope I'm not misrepresenting these sources; it's possible that the footnote in the OAB was merely meant to clarify the reasoning for the NRSV's translation of those verses--specifically the addition of "own" to the phrase "Lord's own portion"--and it's possible that Friedman was skimming over the identity of Elyon because he didn't consider it essential to the point of that particular lecture. In any case, even before Dan put out his video on Elyon, I had already encountered the argument that the Song of Moses depicts Elyon and YHWH as separate entities (albeit presented slightly differently than Dan presented it), and I agree. It certainly seems like the best way to make sense of what's going on in that passage.
@ancientfiction5244
@ancientfiction5244 Месяц назад
​@xx99Username99xx The general consensus is that the "Most High" in this context is speaking of the Canaanite god El, who was the chief god of the Israelite patriarchs. "I should add here that it is very clear from the grammar that the noun nachalah in v. 9 should be translated “inheritance.” *Yahweh receives Israel as his “inheritance” (nachalah), just as the other sons of El received their nations as their inheritance (nachal, v. 8).* With this verb, especially in the Hiphil, the object is always what is being given as an inheritance. Thus, Israel is given to Yahweh as his inheritance. ((Here I’m indebted to Dan McClellan.)) It would make no sense for Elyon to give himself an inheritance. Moreover, as I’ve argued elsewhere, it is not just the Gentile nations that are divided up according to the number of the *sons of El.* It is all of humankind, i.e., “the sons of Adam.” This clearly includes Israel. And the sons of Adam are not divided up according to the number of the *sons of El,* plus one (i.e., plus Elyon). They are divided up, according to the text, *solely* according to the number of the *sons of El.* *Thus, that Yahweh receives Israel as his inheritance makes Yahweh one of the sons of El mentioned in v. 8. Any other construal of the text would constitute its rewriting.* A Sumerian hymn speaks to the goddess: “Nanshe, your divine powers are not matched by any other divine powers.” *Does this mean that Nanshe was the high goddess, that there were no gods above her? No, it does not.* Nanshe was the daughter of Enki, the high god. *In Sumerian mythology, as with Ugaritic, Israelite, Babylonian, and others, in the ancient past, the high god (Enki, in this case) divided up the world and assigned his children certain domains.* Nanshe was given a limited domain (the modern Persian Gulf) and was tasked with maintaining social justice there. *This is exactly what we see in Deuteronomy 32 with Yahweh. Yahweh is given a limited domain (Israel) and is given authority over his people, to punish them, as well as to protect and defend them against foreign enemies.* That Yahweh, like Nanshe, is said to have incomparable divine power *does not* mean that he is not subordinate to the high god who gave him his domain. *It is also of note that Nanshe, like Baal, Yahweh, and so many other deities, evolved over time. Her domain increased, and she was promoted in the pantheon (although she never became the high goddess)."* *"The Most Heiser: Yahweh and Elyon in Psalm 82 and Deuteronomy 32 - Religion at the Margins"* based on the *majority scholarly consensus.* (Written by Thom Stark who is a Christian) *"Michael Heiser: A Unique Species? - Religion at the Margins"* (A second response to Michael Heiser)
@MarcillaSmith
@MarcillaSmith Месяц назад
_Most_ high because you know the temple was like, "get that 89 out of here, we stay burnin' 93 _only."_
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
There are hundreds of references to KANEH BOSEM is practices used in the common era, the holy Anointing oil, Christ, th ed definition of Kadosh Set Apart AKA Holy comes from sacred herbs like cannabis being used to make a sacramental alcohol extraction and then combined with other essence oils to make a olive oil MOST HOLY. the entire tabernacle was coated in it and anything that touched it would become holy... further examples can be given including the oil of gladness, Ezekiel's surveying rod was a KANEH STALK/ROD... the use of cannabis was so prevalent and common Jesus rebuked his own disciples about curing an epileptic child by saying dont you have "consecrated" fasting and "incense" prayer? It is funny to see how much cannabis played a role in Christianity... it could be said if you are anti-cannabis then you are anti-christ.
@dannyc9417
@dannyc9417 Месяц назад
Wow, last time I was this early Adonai was still sitting in El's council.
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
Blessed is HaShem forever, Amen and Amen! Blessed is HaShem from Zion Who dwells in Jerusalem, Hallelujah. Blessed is HaShem our G-d, G-d of Israel Who alone performs wonders. Blessed is the Name of His glory forever and may His glory fill the whole earth; Amen and Amen!
@Texasmade74
@Texasmade74 Месяц назад
Wrong​@@REVJC
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
@@Texasmade74 you missed the humor then... blessed be tree family
@AENock
@AENock Месяц назад
Moses and the burning bush hits different.
@steveacosta-wq1bi
@steveacosta-wq1bi Месяц назад
Maybe that's why archaeologists have recently uncovered an ancient 7-11 directly across the street from the temple.
@mrq6270
@mrq6270 Месяц назад
lol. The discovery of Doritos residue in the temple would confirm it for sure.
@MarcillaSmith
@MarcillaSmith Месяц назад
You bring up a valid point, and before Monsignor adds any green to the thurible, Imma hafta see about getting larger eucharistic hosts, first.
@andrewsuryali8540
@andrewsuryali8540 Месяц назад
I mean, we already know there's a White Castle inside the premises of the Temple itself.
@timkhan3238
@timkhan3238 Месяц назад
lol, scholar, lol, you speak like a cult. Lol.
@Tmanaz480
@Tmanaz480 Месяц назад
As Jamie and Adam would say: not confirmed, not busted, but plausible.
@zat1342
@zat1342 Месяц назад
"Now let's go to page 420 in our hymnals and sing the powerful song "I Hope I'm Stoned (When Jesus Takes Me Home)""
@thescoobymike
@thescoobymike Месяц назад
I was not expecting the answer of cannabis actually being used
@MarcillaSmith
@MarcillaSmith Месяц назад
Surprising, I know, but I can assure you that I first learned of this years ago from the English language version of the journal _Summus Temporibus._
@Peace_And_Love42
@Peace_And_Love42 Месяц назад
My head canon (based on the "So you're telling me there's a chance" perspective) is that when the High (lol) Priest went in to talk to God, then deliver the Word to the people once a year, *that's *when they used multiple lbs of ganja in the incense. "So ... God wants all of us ... to just, you know, chill out, man..."
@Dloin
@Dloin Месяц назад
Finally the important questions 😂
@JopJio
@JopJio Месяц назад
That would explain prophets like David or Samuel running around naked after getting filled with the "holy spirit"😂 *1 Samuel **19:24** - And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night* Bart Ehrman also has an interesting article on prophets in the bible consuming weed
@joesmith4098
@joesmith4098 Месяц назад
David was getting filled with something alright.
@Sewblon
@Sewblon Месяц назад
Is getting naked a thing that people do when they get high on cannabis?
@SmokeyTheBandit
@SmokeyTheBandit Месяц назад
@@Sewblon No, unless they are about to engage in coitus.
@CBennett420
@CBennett420 Месяц назад
These events happen after they were Anointed, and this is interesting in relation to Dan's dissmisal of kaneh bosm. . At the time of the prophet Samuel, the Hebrew anointing oil was extended from just priests, to include Kings as well. The description of events that take place after Samuel anoints Israel’s first king, Saul, make it clear that there was a psycho-active nature of the ointment used. Samuel “took a flask of oil and poured it on Saul’s head” (1 Samuel 10:1). After the anointing Samuel tells Saul: “The Spirit of the Lord will come upon you in power ... and you will be changed into a different person”(1 Samuel 10:6), a statement indicating that the magical (psycho-active) power of the ointment will shortly take effect. Samuel tells Saul that when this happens, he will come across a band of prophets (Nebiim) Coming down from a mountaintop, “with harp, tambourine, flute, and lyre before them prophesying” (1 Samu- el 10:5), and that Saul will join them. "[After Saul’s anointing] As Samuel foretold, the spirit of Yah- weh came mightily upon the new king and he “prophesied among them.” The verb “to prophecy”in this context [nebiim] meant not to foretell the future but to behave ecstatically, to babble incoherently under the influence of the Spirit. This bi- zarre conduct associated with prophesying is apparent when in a second burst of such activity, Saul stripped off his clothing and lay naked all day and night, causing the people to ask, “Is Saul among the prophets?”(1 Samuel 19:24)(Cole 1959)."
@CBennett420
@CBennett420 Месяц назад
This ritual anointing continued with the renegade who usurped Saul’s reign, and whose own bloodline would be instituted in place of Saul’s: And Samuel took the horn of oil (semen) and anointed (mashach [messiah]) him in the midst of his brothers. And the Spirit of the Yahweh came upon David from the day forward (1 Samuel 16.13). I have exalted a young man from among the people. I have found David my servant; with my sacred oil I have anointed him. My hand will sustain him ... and through my name his horn will be exalted (Psalm 89:19-24). ...my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn. I shall be anointed with fresh oil (Psalm 92:10). Here I will make a horn grow for David and set up a lamp for my anointed one (Psalms 132). Interestingly coinciding with this, cannabis was in use as both an ointment, and incense by the Assyrians under the name of qunnabu, in their sacred rites and as a temple offering. The following passage regarding the topical application of cannabis is very interesting when compared alongside the use of the suggestion of a cannabis infused “Holy Oil” for similar purposes amongst ancient Hebrew figures, that will be discussed later. “An Assyrian medical tablet from the Louvre collection (AO 7760)(Labat, 1950)(3,10,16) was trans- literated as follows..., ‘ana min sam mastabbariru sam a-zal-la sam tar- mus.’ Translating the French [EBR], we obtain, ‘So that god of man and man should be in good rapport:---with hellebore, cannabis and lupine you will rub him.’ (Russo 2005).
@juan_martinez524
@juan_martinez524 Месяц назад
wow I didn't know the ancient jews were so cultured.
@Cornelius135
@Cornelius135 Месяц назад
“Some of them even speak Aramaic! 😄”
@seeawn
@seeawn Месяц назад
what an abosolutely FIRE title
@josefpollard6271
@josefpollard6271 Месяц назад
I'd like one pound of Talk 2 God incense PLEASE!!!
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
Some Isaiah... woe is me, I am a man of unclean lips the ... A HOLY COAL KISS... HOLY HOLY HOLY ;)
@SmokeyTheBandit
@SmokeyTheBandit Месяц назад
There is a strain called God's Breath
@johnburn8031
@johnburn8031 Месяц назад
What's "hot boxing"? Oh! That's what it means. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@creamwobbly
@creamwobbly Месяц назад
I thought at first it meant they were laying down sick beats, acapella style
@johnburn8031
@johnburn8031 Месяц назад
I thought it was a reference to gay sex. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@quotidiancryptid4214
@quotidiancryptid4214 Месяц назад
At first, I thought it meant they were growing vegetables in a greenhouse. 😂
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
It is mentioned several times that G-d is shown in a cloud of glory and even the burning of incense carried the prayers of the saints... so just as Isaiah became purified and holy after taking a hit from a hashish coated altar coal ... so the smoke filled the tabernacle of Moses as it was multiple layers of skins including porpoises to create a light and air tight Holy of holiest where incense was burned and fumigated the nomadic temple with a pillar of smoke by day and a pillar of fire by night. The use of smoke to visualize the presence of The Creator is evident. In modern times cannabis smokers smoke in enclosed areas like cars or rooms to re-breath the smoke of herbs and it creates a cheech and chong snoop Dogg billowing smoke upon exit.
@victorsalazar445
@victorsalazar445 Месяц назад
Miles Morales!! Yay
@TaeyxBlack
@TaeyxBlack Месяц назад
this is incredible. the amount of intellectual honesty on display here is probably some of the best i’ve seen on there internet. while the creator’s misinterpretation of data could have served to discredit the biblical narrative (something you have not been shy to do in other videos), you still appealed to the data and took the most modest interpretation of the information available. it’s great to see people maintain integrity even when addressing highly polarizing topics. bravo, dr. mcclellan
@Ed_Lima777
@Ed_Lima777 Месяц назад
Blaze up for Jesus!
@rainbowkrampus
@rainbowkrampus Месяц назад
My Lord and personal dealer.
@tchristianphoto
@tchristianphoto Месяц назад
When he come up in the temple he be blazin' up Got phylacteries on deck like he savin' up
@Ed_Lima777
@Ed_Lima777 Месяц назад
@@tchristianphoto He always in the air, but he never fly coach
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
Blessed be tree family... Salvation Anointed to you and yours ;)
@Ed_Lima777
@Ed_Lima777 Месяц назад
@@REVJC yes sir. Many blessings. God bless you.
@QuinnPrice
@QuinnPrice Месяц назад
Next we'll hear they were raving. Righteous play, Yahwey.
@keatonsmith5669
@keatonsmith5669 Месяц назад
In regards to kaneh bosm being cannabis, it is rather peculiar that the other ingredients of the anointing oil would have some complementary topical effects. Myrrh is a topical analgesic, and cinnamon causes flushing of blood vessels. If it was actually weed, you'd have a very nice smelling canna-balm.
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
Facts! You're a real one... Myrrh being antibacterial and Cassia being Antifungal Astringent with Cannabis having hundreds of Counterbalancing effects with the endocannabinoid system with Cinnamon being a sugar regulator and parasite purge abrasive makes the olive oil a essential fatty acid oil a sunscreen face shine that was used be everything from epileptics to syphilis leprosy. Laying on of hands requires the healing chrism of CHRIST. Blessed be tree family Salvation Anointed to you and yours
@AtollSurfer
@AtollSurfer Месяц назад
thank you Dan, I you for got to ass how wide spread Cannabis was in that time, I side with the most High with spiritual intoxication and the pillar of smoke that rose from opening the hot box um tabernacle
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
Stay lifted Salvation Anointed Blessed be tree family
@DneilB007
@DneilB007 Месяц назад
Hey Dan, as the Holy of Holies in Tel Arad contained two stelae (believed to be one each for Adonai and “His Ashera”), is it possible that the incense on the two altars were specifically for each god-that Adonai was worshipped with the frankincense and Ashera with the cannabis (or vice versa)?
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
Curious to know your and his stance on the bronze serpent communial hash incense altar device? What do you think about Asherah the Queen of Heaven being pre Hezekial destruction of the Nehushtan?
@stevedv629
@stevedv629 Месяц назад
The title is pretty funny 😅
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
100% click bait gem and love Dan's videos... definitely going places in modern scholarly repore.
@stevedv629
@stevedv629 Месяц назад
@@REVJC yeah, love hearing honest takes from a genuine scholar of the Bible and the languages… rather than random RU-vidr that speaks confidently like they know a lot, but really don’t know anything beyond the surface
@dethspud
@dethspud Месяц назад
Well, they did tallk about "bowls of wrath" in Revelations...
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
Great observation... the Angel/Messenger does throw an in-censer as a kick off to the bowls of judgement... anyone who has ever dropped and broken their favorite glass piece knows the horror/sadness/anger being expressed by that action.
@jonathonpolk3592
@jonathonpolk3592 Месяц назад
It would be hillarious if the cannabis was used as a prank, and now people think the incense all used cannabis based on said prank.
@rainbowkrampus
@rainbowkrampus Месяц назад
I wonder if one burning would be sufficient to leave traces which last all this time and still be detectable. I know you're just joking but it's not a bad hypothesis. What if the cannabinoids found there weren't the result of intentional burning? Or hell, what if they aren't the result of burning by an Israelite. It's not as though there was only ever one people group in the region.
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
I think it's even funnier that today people believe HEMP means cannabis when that came from the Tudor Dynasty acronym H.E.M.P.E. where the spanish royalty and english royalty joined with the vatican to rebrand cannabis or the hebrew Word KANEH as Henry Edward Mary Phillip and Elizabeth I... people literally think the plant is hemp still today when KANEH was used 900+ years before.
@BlackLionSupreme
@BlackLionSupreme Месяц назад
They get high all the time (they smoke that good ish), they stay high all the time (they on some hood ish) using my 50 cent voice Lmao.
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
Technically rapping is what the Hebrew Prophets were doing as it was an oratory history and calling out the royalty and principalities that rule was a gift of talent. Kinda sucks that modern talents are using G-DS gift to brainwash and create criminal activity to fill record labels that are owned by entities like blackrock that owns the majority of private prisons. Stay lifted... blessed be tree family
@SunnyAquamarine2
@SunnyAquamarine2 Месяц назад
I truly hope that God did want us to "hot box" cannabis. Not just to him, but also for us. He definitely DID give us every good herb 🌿 👏 ❤😊
@clifb.3521
@clifb.3521 Месяц назад
I was totally thinking of a different hotbox.
@jimhunt1592
@jimhunt1592 Месяц назад
In my high school we called hot boxing smoking an entire menthol cigarette in less than a minute. It got us dizzy for about another minute before fading away. So I was a bit confused about the Israelites hot-boxing. 😃
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
Ahhh the taste of fiberglass coolness on repeat... ;) did you ever smoke a blunt wrap? The silliness of youth.
@jhake67
@jhake67 Месяц назад
Now i know where they get all those bible stories from😮
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
Men "carried about by the HOLY spirit." Blessed be tree family
@theamazingreptar
@theamazingreptar Месяц назад
Dan in this one, I am sorry. For personal reasons I am going with my dogma on this one. Jesus rose from the death on 4/20 😝
@rainbowkrampus
@rainbowkrampus Месяц назад
I dunno man, when I get high, the last thing I wanna do is get up.
@theamazingreptar
@theamazingreptar Месяц назад
@@rainbowkrampus my dogma my rules. But, you are right. what do you hace in mind?
@jorgemunoz19
@jorgemunoz19 Месяц назад
0:31 Dan looking cold 🥶🙌🏼
@bengreen171
@bengreen171 Месяц назад
so all those Biblical verses about who should be stoned....
@benjaminmiller3075
@benjaminmiller3075 Месяц назад
Holy S. The rastafarians were right!
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
Rastafarians "Head Lion Worshippers" deified Ethiopian Emperor Hallie Selassie I... they do rever cannabis spirituality but do not accept the teachings of Ethiopia Orthodox Christianity... Bob Marley converted to Christianity before his passing in Baptism Ceremony to Christ not Haile Selassie I. They may be RIGHT about sacramental use but have not fought the issue of etymological, architectural, evidence of KANEH BOSEM as an ARTIFACT OF RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. Google: Salvation Anointed Blessed be tree family
@4everseekingwisdom690
@4everseekingwisdom690 Месяц назад
Hotboxing in the temple.. love it
@mrq6270
@mrq6270 Месяц назад
And after the hotboxing they would start beatboxing.
@4everseekingwisdom690
@4everseekingwisdom690 Месяц назад
@@mrq6270 featuring young Moses and MC mitzvah
@liveoak227
@liveoak227 Месяц назад
Matisyahu was big about 15 years ago. Beatboxing orthodox jew doing reggae​@@mrq6270
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
It is a mandatory priesthood requirement of the HIGH PRIEST... blessed be tree family
@AMoniqueOcampo
@AMoniqueOcampo Месяц назад
Jesus missed an opportunity to say that the Pharisees and Sadducees were getting high on their own supply, LOL.
@icollectstories5702
@icollectstories5702 Месяц назад
Not sure how many First Temple rituals survived Babylon and made it to the Second Temple. OTOH perhaps Jesus was trying to re-establish the Old-Time Religion?
@liveoak227
@liveoak227 Месяц назад
That's why he flipped them tables at the temple, mfers was taxing people
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
He did say the kingdom of heaven is at hand ;) could have been upper room puff puff passing jk Blessed be tree family
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
​@@liveoak227he wove a whip of "hemp" watched them take his first fruit offerings and then money exchange for Rome on table cloths that had columns for money exchanging then when he turned the tables it was during the counting for the Jewish Clergy to pay homage to Rome, this rebellious act was one of the many reasons the Jewish leaders portrayed him as a leader of a dangerous rebellion against Rome.
@tussk.
@tussk. Месяц назад
Its true. The name Jesus gave to James and John, Boanerges, is the root of the word Bogart.
@tussk.
@tussk. Месяц назад
@bettygreathouse4999 nah, they were doobie hoggers
@shanegooding4839
@shanegooding4839 Месяц назад
Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater Dan!😂
@rainbowkrampus
@rainbowkrampus Месяц назад
I do wonder about the size of the incense altars and the presence of multiple. Maybe that's indicative of something like a material limitation. Maybe the good stuff was just harder to come by so they had a large altar for using easier to acquire incense materials in larger quantity while reserving the smaller altar for the harder to come by materials. Or maybe it was just a concern for different ritual practices. A larger altar for when you really need to stank up the joint and a smaller one for when you want to get up close and personal with the face of god.
@Erimgard13
@Erimgard13 Месяц назад
The working hypothesis is that the larger standing stone was for YHWH and the smaller one for his consort, Asherah
@jennifersilves4195
@jennifersilves4195 Месяц назад
The house if the LORD was so full of smoke the priests couldn't stand. Frankincense is also psychoactive.
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
The ark of the covenant, the Ark of Noah was also made of gopher wood aka ACACIA wood that has a bark that also contained DMT, another interesting detail the pomegranate like what is on the High Priestly garments... also pomegranate roots have DMT.
@davidm5707
@davidm5707 Месяц назад
According to a lecture I heard, after the richer Talmudic rabbis threw a banquet, they would bring out a "smoke raising herb", which was considered possibly opium smoke, which has been used in different places in the world.
@homophilosofikus8215
@homophilosofikus8215 Месяц назад
It would take a lot of smoke in a room to have effect on people by passive smoking, it would be very uncomfortable to be in there
@KJDogluv
@KJDogluv Месяц назад
Hell yeah they were! 😂😶‍🌫️
@CBennett420
@CBennett420 Месяц назад
Benet acknowledged that qaneh can mean 'reed' and often does mean it, depending on context. Here is an example of how context could work in such a case, "I went to cut the grass" vs "I went to smoke the grass" . Dan pretends that qanehbosm was the only reference Benet refers to but she uses qaneh (kaneh) in a number of her examples as it is not a generic reed being identified but rather a specific, due to context, see Isaiah 43:24 kaneh, Jeremiah 6:20, Ezekiel 27: 19, Songs 4:14. Notably the very term cannabis is such a compound, as 'canna' means reed in Latin and the Greek word kanna meaning "reed" a component of Greek Kannabis. I would also suggest Akkadian qanu is phonetically connected to Akkadian 'qunnabu,' - cannabis, in the same way, as Greek Kannabis contains kanna, and Hebrew qanehbosm, includes qaneh (reed or cane). qaneh has also been suggested as a component in other suggested cannabis words as well. The word 'gan-zi-gun-nu' is referenced from stone tablets (dating 700 BCE) that indicate a connection with eastern and near-eastern terms for the plant (gan-zi > ganja, gun-nu > qaneh). This substance was used for witchcraft and prescribed as a useful remedy for a variety of ailments including depression and impotence.- • Cannabis in Medical Practice: A Legal, Historical and Pharmacological Overview, Mary Lynn Mathre (1997) p. 38
@treystevenson9872
@treystevenson9872 Месяц назад
Burning incense in the temple represented the people’s prayers going up to God. Calamus is described as: A sort of reed, or sweet-scented cane, used by the Jews as a perfume. It is a knotty root, reddish without and white within, and filled with a spungy substance. It has an aromatic smell. Frankincense was also famously used for burning incense in the temple and is described as: A dry resinous substance in pieces or drops, of a pale yellowish white color, of a bitterish acrid taste, and very inflammable; used as a perfume.
@CBennett420
@CBennett420 Месяц назад
both are psychoactive as well
@treystevenson9872
@treystevenson9872 Месяц назад
@@CBennett420 Well they were not meant to be inhaled but burned as a prayer offering in the Old Testament and no such ordinance of worship was instituted in the New Testament.
@CBennett420
@CBennett420 Месяц назад
@@treystevenson9872 Exodus 30:23 is a recipe for the Holy anointing oil, it was used to anoint the High Priest and the altar of Incense. Moses confers with the Lord in the Tent of the Meeting in a pillar of smoke. In Hebrew the one who received the Holy oil was the 'messiah' the anointed in Greek this became 'Christ' . In the synoptic Gospel of Mark, the oldest of the accounts, Jesus sends out out the apostles with holy oil, “And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them.” (Mark 6:13). This oil also served as. a tool for enlightenment - ". . . you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. . . . the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit - just as it has taught you, remain in him.” (1 John 2: 27)
@CBennett420
@CBennett420 Месяц назад
@@treystevenson9872 I would say the references to kaneh in both Isaiah and Jeremiah indicate a incense. The references to kaneh in Isaiah and Jeremiah are particularly interesting here, as in both kaneh appears directly with frankincense, as with the two altars at tel Arad. In Isaiah as an oraculor offering, and in Jeremiah, rejected in a reference that coincides with the suggested cancelation date of the temple site at tel Arad. Isaiah 43:23-24 I have not burdened you with offerings, or wearied you with frankincense. You have not bought me sweet smelling kaneh with money, or satisfied me with the fat of your sacrifices. But you have burdened me with your sins; you have wearied me with your iniquities. (I would say say that the reference to 'sins' and 'iniquities' here tie it with another verse, where this is also used, Isaiah 6: 4-7, and the desire for oracular incense was appeased!) Jeremiah 6:20 What do I care about frankincense from Sheba or sweet smelling kaneh from a distant land? Your burnt offerings are not acceptable; your sacrifices do not please me.” This ties in near Hezekiah's and Josiah's times, and I would also say the Burning of incense to the Queen of Heaven condemned in Jeremiah 44. Putting it into the time period of Arad's cancelation and tying it in with the rejection of Asherah. These connections carry over from the Hebrew translations, but frankincense (and 'sins and iniquities) does not appear in all English translations of these verses.
@aybiss
@aybiss Месяц назад
This is a mistranslation, they were BEATboxing.
@andrewsuryali8540
@andrewsuryali8540 Месяц назад
Oh, hey. The Rastafari are right!
@roberthunter6927
@roberthunter6927 Месяц назад
Interesting meaning of the term "hot-boxing". To many soldiers, a "hot-box" is a treat for soldiers on field exercises, and in combat. Freshly cooked meals are delivered in insulated containers by helicopter, truck or armored logistics vehicle. So stews, turkey dinners, or Xmas fare, etc, made fresh ingredients. Within the "hot-box' concept, is can also contain alcoholic or non-alcoholic drinks, ice cream, fresh fruit etc, depending on the tactical situation. [In "cold-boxes', obviously]. Well-disciplined military units will not use psycho-active drugs, especially in combat, but it is not totally unknown either. US units tend to be "dry" at all times but the Royal Navy has a centuries long tradition of issuing a tot of rum, with no ill-effect on ship discipline or crew performance. In fact it may improve morale and have the medicinal effects of reducing normal aches and pains associated with tasks routinely performed by sailors. Especially in the days of sail. The practice of indulging in psycho-active drugs is not unknown in many religious sects. Obviously it has some utility in helping achieving a state of religious ecstasy, or altered mental state. People can "see heaven" a god with more "clarity", I guess. Other religions have other "carrots", the "72 virgins in heaven thing", for example. It always stuck me as the fantasy of an insecure male. He could be worried that a more experienced sexual partner might find his love-making efforts a little below par? Of course the 'women as property" thing could be at play there too. I guess that is the thinking about a senior man taking a child-bride. Property, "purity" dominance, by an insecure man. Pretty horrendous and pathetic. And should not be considered "moral" in any universe. But I suppose some might regard kiddy-rape as "moral' so long as the "deity" [cough] signs off on it. Welcome to patriarchy, with religious condiments. All too "edgy" for my taste as an evil atheist. Even if an underage girl is "gagging" for it, a real man does not mess with a child.
@joesmith4098
@joesmith4098 Месяц назад
Get high and have BBQ from the burnt offerings, sounds like a pretty sweet setup to me.
@andrewsuryali8540
@andrewsuryali8540 Месяц назад
You can't make a BBQ out of burnt offerings. People tend to forget that offerings are just bone, internal organs, and fat. The meat and skin are eaten by the priests and the excess sold to the public. This for some reason reminds me of an argument that most Jews in the 2nd Temple period must have been vegans. In the Classical era, most people got their meat from the local temple as a byproduct of animal sacrifice. Well, if you have only ONE Temple where this is allowed in your entire country, then most of your people will never have access to fresh meat. Arguably you could still get preserved meats, but in the ancient world that was actually more expensive (because salt and other chemicals used in processing were expensive), so most of the people would have been stuck eating mostly legumes for protein and fats.
@Cornelius135
@Cornelius135 Месяц назад
I don’t have the first clue how substance-testing works; could someone explain like I’m 5 how weed residue stays on an altar for 2,000 years?
@sigmaoctantis1892
@sigmaoctantis1892 Месяц назад
Well, Shiva sits up there on Mt Meru smoking ganja (cannabis) quite happily.
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
She must have met them at the Northern Shaolin temple to cheers mullberry wine with the goddess of Hemp MAGU to celebrate the first Emperor of Ancient China Shennong
@baseddepartment1549
@baseddepartment1549 Месяц назад
Hello Dan I've recently learned about the didache, the very early text and it bothered me a little, I thought the Trinity was a developmentment of the second and fifth century, however in this document there are several mentions of the Trinity, I was wandering what your take on that is ?
@andrewsuryali8540
@andrewsuryali8540 Месяц назад
The Didache has zero mentions of the Trinity. It mentions the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit within the context of baptism in Ch. 7. This is not the Trinity. It's a formulation inherited from the earliest Christian communities and almost every major Christian group before Nicaea used it. This includes almost all Christologically "heretical" groups. See, without the additional doctrine of the Trinity, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit could be understood as three gods, a god, an adopted human, and an angel, one God and two angels, one God with three modes, three Gods emanating from one source, etc. The development of the Trinity was mostly triggered by the need to explain away this inherited formulation as a form of monotheism. It should be noted that even in the modern era you can use this exact formulation while being openly polytheistic. Mormons baptize using the exact same phrasing, but to them God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are three distinct deified humans.
@throttlebeholder
@throttlebeholder Месяц назад
Jerusalem was better than Dopesmoker
@HappyFunNorm
@HappyFunNorm Месяц назад
I thought that smaller altar was for Ashera, anyway, right?
@andrewsuryali8540
@andrewsuryali8540 Месяц назад
Yes. And people have built up huge all-encompassing theories about the link between cannabis and the worship of the Mother Goddess out of this fact. It's awesome.
@integrationalpolytheism
@integrationalpolytheism Месяц назад
It does seem likely, to be honest. I wonder if the majority of scholars have some sort of societally influenced reluctance to accept that the aromatic here in Exodus 30 was indeed understood to be cannabis.
@Brutuscomedy
@Brutuscomedy Месяц назад
Hmm.. The Esoterica guy claimed there is direct evidence in his podcast appearance with Alex O'Connor. Maybe he overstated his case and conflated sites.
@Erimgard13
@Erimgard13 Месяц назад
I like him, but I think he tends to overstate things or sometimes side with older research. I saw a recent video where he said matter-of-factly that the Habiru in Egyptian records are the Hebrews. And my understanding is that most scholars deny an etymological connection between the words.
@drj-pp8hw
@drj-pp8hw Месяц назад
Did cannabis at the time have enough THC to get them high just from burning on altar without directly smoking it?
@andrewsuryali8540
@andrewsuryali8540 Месяц назад
Yes. Scishow has an episode about how long ago human cultivation caused the cannabis family split into the hemp and the "medical" varieties, and it's surprisingly ancient. It's possible that this split happened before humans even domesticated wheat.
@roberthunter6927
@roberthunter6927 Месяц назад
Some psych-active substances/drugs are aromatic. So "fragrant oils" -ie aromatic oils from plants etc, could contain chemicals with psycho-active properties of varying degrees. The sense of smell, and olfactory organs, goes back to before the split between vertebrate and invertebrate life, since the trait is common to both taxonomic groups. Which means well over 500 million years ago. Pre-Cambrian, "Burgess shale", or even further back in the Ediacaran Period ~ 541 MYO. It is thought that lateral gene transfer/horizontal gene transfer [via bacteria or viruses] was more common in that era [leakier boundaries between higher taxa. So olfactory sensing could have evolved independently in both groups, or as a result of common ancestry, or via the HGT/LGT process. Given the huge time periods involved, and the survival utility of the olfactory sense, any or all of those possibilities could be true.
@CBennett420
@CBennett420 Месяц назад
What I think was particularly intellectually dishonest about Dr. McClellan's presentation, was the way he treated the reference to qaneh, and ignored what Sula Benet wrote about it. Dan uses the generic use of the term, but ignores the specific. There are numerous examples of the generic use, which do agree with McCellan's views, but he ignores the 'specific in context (Besides Exodus there is Isaiah 43:24 kaneh is translated as “sweet cane,” although the word “sweet” appears nowhere in the original. In Jeremiah 6:20 kaneh is translated as “sweet cane.” In Ezekiel 27: 19 kaneh is translated as “calamus”. In Song of Songs 4:14) He also fails to put forth any sort of botanical candidate for kaneh bosm and kaneh. As well, he would need to come up with an alternative name for the cannabis we know for a fact the Hebrews used as an incense and fibre, from archaeological evidence. And also an explanation of why in intiial verses of kaneh, it is in a positive light, where as in Jeremiah it is negative. This includes Benet's identification of the specific and generic references to 'qaneh' or 'kaneh' “Both in the original Hebrew text of the Old Testament and in the Aramaic translation, the word kaneh or keneh is used either alone or linked to the adjective bosm in Hebrew and busma in Aramaic, meaning aromatic. It is cana in Sanskrit, qunnabu in Assyrian, kenab in Persian, kannab in Arabic and kanbun in Chaldean. In Exodus 30: 23, God directed Moses to make a holy oil composed of "myrrh, sweet cinnamon, kaneh bosm and kassia." In many ancient languages, including Hebrew, the root kan has a double meaning ---both hemp and reed. In many translations of the Bible's original Hebrew, we find kaneh bosm variously and erroneously translated as “calamus” and “aromatic reed,” a vague term. Calamus, [Calamus aromaticus is a fragrant marsh plant]. The error occurred in the oldest Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible, Septuagint, in the third century B.C., where the terms kaneh, kaneh bosm were incorrectly translated as “calamus.” And in the many translations that followed, including Martin Luther's, the same error was repeated….” “In Exodus 30:23 kaneh bosm is translated as “sweet calamus.” In Isaiah 43:24 kaneh is translated as “sweet cane,” although the word “sweet” appears nowhere in the original. In Jeremiah 6:20 kaneh is translated as “sweet cane.” In Ezekiel 27: 19 kaneh is translated as “calamus”. In Song of Songs 4:14 kaneh is translated “calamus.” “In the course of time, the two words kaneh and bosm were fused into one, kanabos or kannabus, known to us from Mishna, the body of traditional Hebrew law. The word bears an unmistakable similarity to the Scythian “cannabis.” Is it too far-fetched to assume that the Semitic word kanehbosm and the Scythian word cannabis mean the same thing?” (Benet, 1975).
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
Keep sharing the truth always wins and defend itself. Yall two would make an amazing debate Movie together. Any interest?
@bskec2177
@bskec2177 Месяц назад
Some teen-ager a couple thousand years ago chooses to spile the incense with some weed as a joke. Two thousand years later- "They were high all the time!!!"
@weirdlanguageguy
@weirdlanguageguy Месяц назад
That would be hilarious if true
@CBennett420
@CBennett420 Месяц назад
Dr. McClellan, Your brief video, makes no mention of Benet's view of kaneh, and indicates the whole thing thing is based on the one reference to kaneh bosm in Exodus alone. You also chose a creator, who has done little research on this, when you know there is much more involved, which I think is intellectually dishonest and you missed the 1936 paper Benet first presented on this. In her essays ‘Tracing One Word Through Different Languages’ (1936) and ‘Early Diffusions and Folk Uses of Hemp’ (1975), Benet demonstrated that the Hebrew terms ‘kaneh’ and ‘kaneh bosm’ identified cannabis: “Both in the original Hebrew text of the Old Testament and in theAramaic translation, the word kaneh or keneh is used either alone or linked to the adjective bosm in Hebrew and busma in Aramaic, meaning aromatic. It is cana in Sanskrit, qunnabu in Assyrian, kenab in Persian, kannab in Arabic and kanbun in Chaldean. In Exodus 30: 23, God directed Moses to make a holy oil composed of "myrrh, sweet cinnamon, kaneh bosm and kassia." In many ancient languages, including Hebrew, the root kan has a double meaning ---both hemp and reed. In many translations of the Bible's original Hebrew, we find kaneh bosm variously and erroneously translated as “calamus” and “aromatic reed,” a vague term. Calamus, [Calamus aromaticus is a fragrant marsh plant]. The error occurred in the oldest Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible, Septuagint, in the third century B.C., where the terms kaneh, kaneh bosm were incorrectly translated as “calamus.” And in the many translations that followed, including Martin Luther's, the same error was repeated….” “In Exodus 30:23 kaneh bosm is translated as “sweet calamus.” In Isaiah 43:24 kaneh is translated as “sweet cane,” although the word “sweet” appears nowhere in the original. In Jeremiah 6:20 kaneh is translated as “sweet cane.” In Ezekiel 27: 19 kaneh is translated as “calamus”. In Song of Songs 4:14 kaneh is translated “calamus.” “In the course of time, the two words kaneh and bosm were fused into one, kanabos or kannabus, known to us from Mishna, the body of traditional Hebrew law. The word bears an unmistakable similarity to the Scythian “cannabis.” Is it too far-fetched to assume that the Semitic word kanbosm and the Scythian word cannabis mean the same thing?” (Benet, 1975). In regards to consensus, I doubt the majority of scholars accept cannabis may have been burnt at the temple in Jerusalem. Little scholarly comment can be found on the tel Arad altars. And none of the academics you turn to for authority ever indicated cannabis may have been used, prior to the tel Arad find, as Sula Benet did, and accurately if you understand the Isaiah and Jeremiah references. I really think you don't. I also think you need to come up with an actual botanical candidate if you are going to dismiss cannabis and present the evidence for that,. As well you need to present an alternative name for the cannabis they did use both as incense and for fibre purposes based on archaeological evidence. lets get down to most likely candidate and names based on an honest and fair look at the data, what we have here is academic dogma. The references to kaneh in Isaiah and Jeremiah are particularly interesting here, as in both kaneh appears directly with frankincense, as with the two altars at tel Arad. In Isaiah as an oraculor offering, and in Jeremiah, rejected in a reference that coincides with the suggested cancelation date of the temple site at tel Arad. Isaiah 43:23-24 I have not burdened you with offerings, or wearied you with frankincense. You have not bought me sweet smelling kaneh with money, or satisfied me with the fat of your sacrifices. But you have burdened me with your sins; you have wearied me with your iniquities. (I would say say that the reference to 'sins' and 'iniquities' here tie it with another verse, where this is also used, Isaiah 6: 4-7, and the desire for oracular incense was appeased!) Jeremiah 6:20 What do I care about frankincense from Sheba or sweet smelling kaneh from a distant land? Your burnt offerings are not acceptable; your sacrifices do not please me.” This ties in near Hezekiah's and Josiah's times, and I would also say the Burning of incense to the Queen of Heaven condemned in Jeremiah 44. Putting it into the time period of Arad's cancelation and tying it in with the rejection of Asherah. These connections carry over from the Hebrew translations, but frankincense (and 'sins and iniquities) does not appear in all English translations of these verses.
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
I reposted this... kudos and thank you for all your years of archive curation on the topics of ancient shamanism including your detailed works on cannabis. From surfer to scholars... cannabis was very instrumental in forming you into the man you are today and may Christ recieve all glory and honor from your sacrifice for so many. Blessed be tree family
@68chewy
@68chewy Месяц назад
I'm least impressed by ancient ditch-weed. My question is, what about acacia plants with DMT and the wine they drank. They weren't drinking Franzia, wine at that time was mixed with different kinds of narley stuff people today would never imbibe. Either way, I'm pretty sure they were high on something or screwed in the head due to slow poisoning.
@grahamjones5400
@grahamjones5400 Месяц назад
Some Abrahamic monotheistic religions are okay with getting a little buzzed on occasion or at ceremonies, beyond that believers are supposed to be sober and focused, not intoxicated sloppy and lazy hippies. 😅
@Annie_n_the_oldGypsy
@Annie_n_the_oldGypsy Месяц назад
Hey Dan, I just read you’re an active member of the Mormon Church. Do you also dissect Mormon belief systems and The Book of Mormon? Thanks
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
Mormons rock too... and have multiple herbal references they do hold an opinion since 1910-1915 regarding Marijuana but medical cannabis was recognized as a common place medicine in late 1800s Pharmacopia through 1940s as they referenced chewing tobacco and its medical aspects as valid since 1833: Specifically: Per the church’s 1833 decree called the Word of Wisdom, almost all inebriants were discouraged for members of the church, including seemingly innocent everyday items such as coffee. The Word of Wisdom was church founder Joseph Smith’s revelation in response to the nuisance of tobacco spit and other unhealthy habits that took place at early church congregations. While originally an optional moral code, eventually, the Word of Wisdom evolved into a mandatory set of laws for all Mormons of good standing. Most people are familiar with the church’s key body of doctrine, The Book of Mormon, but the church’s official guidance on drugs and health is found in the Doctrine and Covenants, an equally revered scripture translation. While the Word of Wisdom does not actually mention “cannabis” or “marijuana” explicitly, similar substances are discouraged such as tobacco. But even tobacco’s medicinal properties are recognized in the church’s scripture. “Tobacco is not for the body, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill,” Doctrine and Covenants 89:9 reads. And you guessed, just like the Bible, the Mormon translation of the scriptures also indicate that herbs should be used liberally for medicinal purposes. “Yea, and the herb, and the good things which come of the earth, whether for food or for raiment, or for houses, or for barns, or for orchards, or for gardens, or for vineyards;” Doctrine and Covenants 59:17-18 reads. “Yea, all things which come of the earth, in the season thereof, are made for the benefit and the use of man, both to please the eye and to gladden the heart.”
@sanaltdelete
@sanaltdelete Месяц назад
Yeah but what if they were beatboxing in the temple? 🤔
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
Definitely... hebrew was a consonant only written language with breath of life vowels added by the instrument of the human body. The use of voice as a Revered Musical tool is evident in David's creation of hymns that used Choirs along with the sexy story of Song of Solomon (like a musical performance of an R&B album)
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
Definitely... hebrew was a consonant only written language with breath of life vowels added by the instrument of the human body. The use of voice as a Revered Musical tool is evident in David's creation of hymns that used Choirs along with the sexy story of Song of Solomon (like a musical performance of an R&B album)
@john211murphy
@john211murphy Месяц назад
What Drug was the author of "Revelation" on?
@digitaljanus
@digitaljanus Месяц назад
Gotta be psychedelics, no?
@boboak9168
@boboak9168 Месяц назад
His own self-importance
@andrewsuryali8540
@andrewsuryali8540 Месяц назад
Shrooms. Definitely shrooms.
@Erimgard13
@Erimgard13 Месяц назад
Apocalypticism
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
Well since Apocalypse literally means Full Disclosure of Knowledge... was definitely on that TRUTH ;)
@joelgottfried5849
@joelgottfried5849 22 дня назад
i am not a scholar but im pretty sure with eytomological context and how the scythians egyptians greeks and many more cultures incorporated it cannabis, kanaba, kanoba etc into religous practice i think the majority of the reason scholars come quick to dismiss this because it kinda in the middle 51% of every religion on the planet because we can seehow the popularisation of circumcisioncame into the israelite religous practice and several law codes
@GeekyTalksInc
@GeekyTalksInc Месяц назад
I immediately thought of a different kind of hot boxing in the temple! 💩💨
@Thoughtpologetics
@Thoughtpologetics Месяц назад
✋Woh… wait a minute… I know exactly what this guy is talking about It’s an article called “The Facts about Kaneh Bosem” by Jeff Benner… and yes He does say that word could mean cannabis, you can disagree, but your going to have to prove that the majority of scholars see different Because Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan says it cannabis, times of Israel posted an article where they say “Do you know that “cannabis” comes from the Hebrew word “קנבוס” (“KaNaBoS”)? And קנבוס actually comes from the ancient Biblical term, “קנה בשם” (“KaNeH BoSeM”), one of the ingredients of the anointing oil delineated in Exodus 30:23” And so on… I kind of feel you know some scholars that agree with you so you stated “the majority”, but it really seems it’s not as one sided as you say
@jackietate5222
@jackietate5222 Месяц назад
Well, what we can definitively say is that Jews were in fact hot boxing cannabis in ancient Israel. Maybe not all of them. But, some of them were definitely hot boxing as part of their religious practices. That much is indisputable.
@REVJC
@REVJC Месяц назад
You utilized a generic use of the term, but ignores the specific. There are numerous examples of the generic use, which do agree with your current views, as you ignored the 'specific in context (Besides Exodus there is Isaiah 43:24 kaneh is translated as “sweet cane,” although the word “sweet” appears nowhere in the original. In Jeremiah 6:20 kaneh is translated as “sweet cane.” In Ezekiel 27: 19 kaneh is translated as “calamus”. In Song of Songs 4:14) You also fail to put forth any sort of botanical candidate for kaneh bosm and kaneh. As well, you would need to come up with an alternative name for the cannabis we know for a fact the Hebrews used as an incense and fibre, from archaeological evidence. And also an explanation of why in intiial verses of kaneh, it is in a positive light, where as in Jeremiah it is negative. This includes Benet's identification of the specific and generic references to 'qaneh' or 'kaneh' “Both in the original Hebrew text of the Old Testament and in the Aramaic translation, the word kaneh or keneh is used either alone or linked to the adjective bosm in Hebrew and busma in Aramaic, meaning aromatic. It is cana in Sanskrit, qunnabu in Assyrian, kenab in Persian, kannab in Arabic and kanbun in Chaldean. In Exodus 30: 23, God directed Moses to make a holy oil composed of "myrrh, sweet cinnamon, kaneh bosm and kassia." In many ancient languages, including Hebrew, the root kan has a double meaning ---both hemp and reed. In many translations of the Bible's original Hebrew, we find kaneh bosm variously and erroneously translated as “calamus” and “aromatic reed,” a vague term. Calamus, [Calamus aromaticus is a fragrant marsh plant]. The error occurred in the oldest Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible, Septuagint, in the third century B.C., where the terms kaneh, kaneh bosm were incorrectly translated as “calamus.” And in the many translations that followed, including Martin Luther's, the same error was repeated….” “In Exodus 30:23 kaneh bosm is translated as “sweet calamus.” In Isaiah 43:24 kaneh is translated as “sweet cane,” although the word “sweet” appears nowhere in the original. In Jeremiah 6:20 kaneh is translated as “sweet cane.” In Ezekiel 27: 19 kaneh is translated as “calamus”. In Song of Songs 4:14 kaneh is translated “calamus.” “In the course of time, the two words kaneh and bosm were fused into one, kanabos or kannabus, known to us from Mishna, the body of traditional Hebrew law. The word bears an unmistakable similarity to the Scythian “cannabis.” Is it too far-fetched to assume that the Semitic word kanehbosm and the Scythian word cannabis mean the same thing?” (Benet, 1975).
@ronjones1414
@ronjones1414 Месяц назад
I'm guessing they burnt whatever they could find, and they got "lucky"?
@loganmiller449
@loganmiller449 Месяц назад
Probably not, cannabis was one of the first domesticated crops. It was used to make oils, ropes, tinctures, medicines, and used as incense. It’s been used for an estimated 8-10,000 years. They would have been very familiar with the plant and it would not have been burned by chance or by accident. They wouldn’t just go out and pick random plants and “decide” to burn them. Especially not in a “holy” temple.
@loganmiller449
@loganmiller449 Месяц назад
So highly unlikely. What kind of rationale is that?
@ronjones1414
@ronjones1414 Месяц назад
@loganmiller449 khannab busam (I'm certain that's spelled incorrectly) meant a fragrant reed or stem, they didn't have genus and species descriptions, that word covered dozens of plants. There is no reason to assume that they deliberately picked a specific combination of a single ingredient other than our dogma that what isn't normal today was back then.
@loganmiller449
@loganmiller449 Месяц назад
@@ronjones1414 well that crop was the earliest know domesticated crop. Somewhere between 8-10,000 years ago. It was used for rope, clothes, oils, incense, medicines and more. It was very well known to the culture at the time. I would be extremely surprised if it was an accident. I doubt high priests would just go pick random plants and burn them in their temple. So I doubt they got “lucky” by burning a well known plant that’s extremely prevalent in their society.
@ronjones1414
@ronjones1414 Месяц назад
@@loganmiller449 we will never know, and it doesn't matter.
@TheFranchiseCA
@TheFranchiseCA Месяц назад
So this guy's video is similar to other apologetics: it takes one bit of confirmed evidence, another bit of plausibility, combines them, and stretches it to lay a foundation for a much broader claim. He's just an MJ apologist rather than a particular flavor of Judaism or Christianity.
@thescoobymike
@thescoobymike Месяц назад
Pretty much sums it up yeah
@drj-pp8hw
@drj-pp8hw Месяц назад
MJ = Messianic Judaism?
@Isovapor
@Isovapor Месяц назад
Silly!
@sbaker8971
@sbaker8971 Месяц назад
I thought this was "Data over Dogma"? Yet here you are with absolutely zero evidence claiming not only is it possible, but probable. So much for your "data" claims
@BenM61
@BenM61 Месяц назад
It’s truly heartbreaking to see you people dedicate your lives and condemned I might say due to religious obligations to study every minute of activity of those ancient people which had no effect of any kind on our lives today. Who cares really?
@tchristianphoto
@tchristianphoto Месяц назад
By the same argument, why study *anything* about the past? We study the Bible because for better or for worse it's the most influential text in Western literature and perhaps even world literature. Even if one doesn't hold to it as a sacred text, it's still interesting from a secular point of view and modern culture derives all sorts of cultural points from it.
@BenM61
@BenM61 Месяц назад
“Here where we run into trouble”. Really! I guess I’m going to lose some sleep worrying about this one. What a bunch of baloney. Who cares if they smoke weed or not. We don’t try to study other cultures and civilizations to this extent similar to the way these ‘scholars’ study those ancient Jewish people. Give me a break. Get a life, man.
@loganmiller449
@loganmiller449 Месяц назад
@@tchristianphotovery valid point. It gives you an understanding of many modern traditions and beliefs. It’s better to understand why things are the way they are than to be completely ignorant of things. Yesterday’s forgotten lesson is tomorrow’s harsh reality.
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